>>59000163
xD now this is epic

>>59000163
What the fuck?
How the hell could someone get back to Rustboro without rock smash? This guy is actually brain dead.

>>59000186
You can just ignore that little path

>>59000163
This is why you visit every single house so you don't miss anything. Although, it is weird that Rock Smash is in a random dude's house if they're going to make it such a substantial obstacle.

>>59000163
I was a strategy guideCHAD so this wasn’t a problem.

>>59000197
early 2000s games still had some of that "obtuse, cryptic method to progress" game design to sell game guides.

>>59000163
nope

It's not that hard to check every house in the two towns you just got access to. It's weird that regardless of where you go that needs Rock Smash it's basically the last place you'd realistically check, but if you're just visiting Mauville for the first time and are fastidious about checking every house it's one of the first places you could realistically check.

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>>59000163
>runs directly past a rock he smashed
??????????????????????????

>>59000206
>talking to an npc is cryptic and obtuse

>>59000320
in this context, yes. There's absolutely nothing that tells you to go talk to that specific npc to get rock smash. It's obtuse enough to make a kid wander aimlessly for a while.

In modern games, you'd have just received rock smash from Wally's relative after beating the gym or some shit.

>>59000248
He had Full Restores and Max Repels in his bag. Clearly staged.

>>59000335
Talikg to an easily accessible NPC in an RPG is not obtuse.

>>59000221
>It's weird that regardless of where you go that needs Rock Smash it's basically the last place you'd realistically check, but if you're just visiting Mauville for the first time and are fastidious about checking every house it's one of the first places you could realistically check.

This is really the only justifiable aspect about the situation, "natural curiosity" doesn't really equate to checking every house when loads of houses in Pokemon games don't have shit for you but bad dialogue. It's the only time Hoenn really does this though, since Cut is a completely optional HM in this game, otherwise they do a good job giving the other HMs to you: Flash from Granite Cave Hiker, Strength from the guy in Rusturf, Surf from Wally's parents, Fly from Rival, Dive from Steven and Waterfall in the climax. Rock Smash Dude could've been in front of his house if they wanted to instigate "natural curiosity"

I used to wonder why they kept dumbing down every generation. This thread explains it.

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>>59000365
Gen I does a better job with HMs since the only one you're forced to get in the story is Cut before you actually need it. Surf and Strength are the only two other necessary HMs and they're found in the exact same place. Hoenn's progression gates are usually story-based rather than HM-based until you get to Surf, so most people just get dumb funneled through out the story until they hit a point of "where the fuck do I go now?" which is exceedingly rare due to how linear Hoenn is as a region

Fun fact this is the only mandatory Cut tree in Kanto

>>59000365
Shut the fuck up, pedo. Stop trying to lure kids into your house by scalping Rock Smash HMs.

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>>59000383
>What about Surge's-
>Think about it
>Could theoretically skip it, get surf, and come back

>>59000197
Anon, he had rocksmash in the video. That's how he got to Rustboro.

>>59000676
I was making a general comment about the kids who actually get stuck there

Unlike niggers I read while I play I don't just mash A

For me, I got lost after Lilycove. The diving shit sent my zoomie brain into a spiral and I just gave up.

>>59000206
>game guides
Maybe for retards. Kids back then would just talk to the npcs in the game.

You can tell Pokémon’s handholding truly began specifically with Platinum, aka as a response to when DSbabies got into gaming. All of the lategame fights had their levels nerfed, progression npcs now railroaded you into cutscenes and dragged you along compared to DP, and HMs were no longer in “obscure” locations save for one. DP didn’t disrespect children’s intelligence the way Platinum did.

>>59000383
No way you think Gen1 did a good job with Surf and Strength lmao
I think it's soulful and kino but also fucked up

>>59000541
>anon discovers the magic of gen 1
>you can just skip huge chunks of the game if you feel like it

>>59000830
Don't forget how many DSbabies got stuck at Fantina in DP

>>59000206
Or maybe games were designed that way to let the player actually figure shit out on their own + take their time enjoying the game instead of speedplaying it

>>59000163
No because I'm not a retard.

>>59000830
It’s kind of funny that DP was slightly less linear than RSE and that immediately sent kids of the time into an autistic hissy fit

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>>59000163
1. I was 16 at the time.
2. Even when I was a kid, I had a game guide magazine that had maps, so it didn't take me long to figure out the whole teeth thing.

>>59000365
I know a 40 year old man who picked up FRLG (he hadn't played any since GSC) on switch and did everything but check east of Cerulean to progress. He was adamant that he just needed to find a way to wake up Snorlax to get to Lavender Town, that Rock Tunnel was optional. Former pokéboomers who haven't touched a game since gen 1 or 2 are just as oblivious as trend-hopping zoomies or alphatards, if only because the path to completing every single main series title isn't seared into their brains like it is with ours

>>59000830
I do acknowledge this distinction between DP and Platinum, and yet for some reason, in all 3, rock climb (which is mandatory for progression) is found randomly laying round in the snow on route 217, and is shockingly easy to miss.

>>59001157
Why are you posting here with us then?

>>59000163
Not like that video in particular, but yea I recall there were quite a few places where I got stuck for a while playing Diamond as a kid. Specifically, I took absolutely forever to talk to the galactic grunt outside of the great marsh after getting 4 badges, that shit is NOT telegraphed as a progression gate clearly at all. I had a similar issue finding out where to go after the Veilstone galactic base, though I admit that one is on me not paying enough attention to the dialogue.
I actually quite liked these experiences, though, getting stuck at certain points is what encourages engaging with the side content

>>59000163
>POV: You're 3 inches deep as a kid and have no idea where to go next

>>59000163
>>59000248
Not gonna lie that nigger in that reaction image has got to be one of the ugliest niggas i had the displeasure of seeing

>>59000163
?just use rock smash

>>59001689
wtf was masuda thinking

>>59001095
What’s wrong with it? Kids aren’t so retarded that they can’t find them, and NPCs give hints.

>>59001742
I misread that as
>3 inches deep in a kid

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>>59001763
>POV: You're 3 inches deep in a kid and have no idea where to go next

>>59001763
>>59001771
god I wish

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>>59000163
>as a kid
Happened to me as an adult.

>>59001803
Go back to work, Donald.

>>59000383
Erika's gym

>>59000163
It's not difficult if you have basic reading comprehension. Even when playing RB as a 6 year old I had no issues knowing I needed to go to Rock Tunnel. Traversing it was another issue as I usually didn't have Flash

>>59000163
Nah Hoenn was easy. i actually got lost in FRLG though (I was 8)