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>still grading cards

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>still buying vintage

Moege bros lost

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Only if Logan Paul never molested the TCG.

Daily reminder the kike that owns PSA is in the Epstein files
Also Logan Paul is Jewish

https://www.pokebeach.com/2026/04/exclusive-lisias-appeal-to-release-in-chinese-starry-crystal-set
Looks meh

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>>59167847
mail day

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Should I go with the Japanese Dream League Piplup or a regular jap full art of dawn?

>>59168351
sorry for my question but I'm retarded
why 2 japanese dawn in the top row?

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Ascended Heroes ETBs are skyrocketing in value, hasn't even been a month yet and market price is already $130. It doesn't make sense to rip it open anymore, just sell it and buy the singles you want. Or keep holding because it will become a $500 ETB in the next 3-4 years like what's happened to Evolving Skies, except with better pull rates, Pikachu and god packs.

>>59168356
She's really cheap

>>59167864
someone will Luigi him one day, one can hope

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I might start collecting "Pokémon products because I have to uphold to cult personality types on a random basket weaving anime forum" again. I stopped because I became less interested as the deal ran out and my personal stock got higher and higher. but since I know enough about the TCG set lists and promo products, I feel like I should start buying out cheap promo cards and just grade them myself later down the road when all of a sudden they might be worth more than I initially paid for. Decisions decisions.

>>59168351
Why not use the legends arceus bitch

>>59168380
Sometimes i look at the products being bought in bulk and i wonder if all they will be good for is toilet paper

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Pokemon Center Queue is up right now

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>>59168626
If Pokemon cards ever become worthless, it'll happen when the dollar becomes toilet paper too so you'll have bigger things to worry about when that time comes.

>>59168864
>Five hour long queue
So the preorder email system isn't up yet huh

>>59168869
>when the dollar becomes toilet paper
I'm waiting for that since i'm yuropoor. Hoping things can finally change for the better when the dollar and everything related to it and its' people go to shit

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>>59168882
Still worth it :^)

>>59168882
believe they said whoever gets the preorder email would be random and not guaranteed every time

>my page keeps refreshing throwing me into the back of the line each time
It’s over before it even started

Just 3 more hours bros!

>>59168626
Possibly. There's so much product out there, that it's impossible a modern set would hold value like vintage when the pop eventually comes. Definitely a strong argument that it's mostly scalpers selling to scalpers, and once the ball starts rolling sealed will be a race to the bottom.

On the other hand, all the streaming pack openings and similar decreases supply in a way you didn't see in, say, Beanie Babies or 90s Comics.

I wouldn't be holding sealed for 10+ years, but if you can buy at $60 and sell six months later at $120, that's just good business. And is exactly the mindset that can cause a bubble.

>58 minutes
>error 15
great

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>>59169044
Still lots of stock right now I think, this is going to be a Greninja set so it might actually be even more unpopular than Perfect Order

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Mail day

>>59168626
I think it's less a bubble, more akin to pre-emptive pumping. Basically modern is speedrunning the price change. It's not actually going to appreciate further than any vintage. It's just reaching high prices way earlier. People know it will go past MSRP sooner or later, so they pre-emptively grab what they can and it goes to being a rare set straight away.

Evolving Skies is what, $3k for one of the most valued modern sets?? Shit is nowhere near base sets. I don't know how much was printed in comparison, but it doesn't look like a bubble, just a rush to profit.

this dogshit won't let me check out

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Was only able to pre-order a booster box, the ETB was sold out already and kept on getting errors with the booster bundles. I guess I should be grateful I could get anything but the urge to say some gamer words is rising.

kek now I am back in the queue fuck this

>>59169263
lucky you i'm still on error 15 for 40 minutes now

never tried buying from a pokemon center (and maybe I can't even do it from my country) but never thought it could be this bad lol
it's amazing what a piece of paper can do to people

why don't you fucks just buy the jp version of the greninja set? It's not scalped to hell

>>59169288
I have autism and want English cards

>>59169314
Guess I'm in a better position since I learned japanese and the language used on the cards is simple enough for me to read.

>>59169042
> all the streaming pack openings and similar decreases supply in a way you didn't see in
You made a great point in this. The sealed product will retain a certain price while the single product should drop price according to the printing rates

>>59169187
A rush for profit is like the other anon is saying with it being a race to the bottom like with the television market and now sony losing everything to tlc

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Mail Day!

>>59169325
I actually had the shit in my cart and niggerpokejewcenter wouldnt let me checkout and then the site broke and put ke back in the queue

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Opened a box of team rocket and a shitmon ate up my sr spot
>>59169288
It is scalped somewhat
Its like 8-10000 yen maybe less if you can catch a good seller

>>59169350
well jp here is about half the price of eng so it's a good deal anyway

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I got in and i can buy some stuff you guys want any? I'm not buying for myself

>>59169333
Checked and Based

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>>59169333
I really like my bro Dragonite :)

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>still buying physical

I need to choke the shit out of a Psyduck pokedoll.

>>59169355
Dumbasses like you are the reason japanese cards are im such a bad place right now. Even worse than english.

>>59169442
>You are the reason stuff is bad because you want to collect stuff cheaply
what kind of retarded argument is that?

>>59169442
>wtf he is participating in the hobby!?!

>>59168952
>page refresh’s to 1 min wait time
>must be all sold out now
>get in and check etbs
>all sold out
>check booster boxes
>the button is orange
>holy shit this is it this is it
>site crashes after completing my order
Bros I did it, I finally got something.

I'm glad I'm not american and don't have to participate in the pokemon center retardation

>>59169187
>how much was printed
I saw somewhere that roughly 75 billion have been printed in total, and in 2024 they printed 11b, 10b in 2025. Roughly 2bil cards for each of the 5-6 sets each year.

By comparison, each of Base Set, Jungle, and Fossil had 8-10 print runs of 60k booster boxes each, each box has a little under 400 cards - puts the "true vintage" sets at no more than 240m cards printed per set, and Base was split between shadowless, 1st edition, and unlimited.

So you're looking at 10x more of the modern sets printed than the most hype original sets. Now the rarest chase cards in modern sets are far more packs per pull than a holo Charizard was in Base set, so they may well have similar starting populations, before figuring in survival to today.

All I can take away from this, personally, is that anything but the rarest cards printed today won't hold any meaningful value. Those rarest ones might, but it depends on if demand is driven by "investing" and dries up if the bottom drops out, or if demand is truly "collectors" who pull population out of rotation for long stretches.

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>>59169707
Even Beanie Babies still has people collecting them today, Pokemon won't crash unless something even worse than the Great Depression happens.

>>59167847
How do I find retail priced product in stores that isn't Perfect Order

>>59167966
I should have boughteded that fucking chink arcanine 100 dollars ago.

>>59169724
remember when all lgs looked like this?
I rember

>>59169724
Please Trump please ruin the economy. Make it even worse. Please Trump I beg of you.

>>59169895
I'm afraid you will keep getting fucked in the ass. Such a shame that we keep letting this happen

https://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2026/participants-2026

>>59169890
I remember pokemon boosters for $3

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Did they ever make an actual cute Psyduck card?

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>still buying modern

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>>59169890
lmao it's actually overpriced to shit at the time, I just took that picture last year to show how awful the prices were. funny how one year later everything changed.

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ok bros
I got me some packs like I said I was gonna do yesterday. I opened one in the car just to see if I got something and I got a hit already...
not the one I wanted but it's my first hit since I started buying pokemon cards
probably won't get anything else from the other 9 packs but wish me luck

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>>59167336
So this is HP and I got fucked right?

>>59170116
That card is straight up damaged and not worth anything

>>59170042
I remember getting gym leader challenge and the team rocket boosters from dollar tree (for a dollar). My family was fairly poor so that was my only real source of them.

>>59169724
Most beanie babies are worth below msrp today. Yes, people still collect them, but that doesn't mean they're valuable outside of ones that came out in low numbers, and before the hype.

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didn't get much like I said
but I guess it wasn't that bad
this was the last english poster collection they had at the shop too so I don't know when I can get more

>>59170156
Still worth $90 in damaged condition. This one doesn't have a crease so it's not damaged.

>>59170193
>worth $90
Those horrible indents make it damaged. Good luck finding another retard to buy a damaged card for that price, im sure the guy who sold it to you was grinning ear to ear.

>>59170178
dude the zoroark is a $140 SIR, the pull rates for them are around 1 in 86 packs or so you already got lucky

>>59170232
I know. I didn't think I was gonna get anything else but well, you never know
I just wanted to get Lillie's Clefairy...

Indents is not damaged you turbo retard. All the other HP copies selling on ebay are over $130 and all have creases.

it was only $20, who cares

>>59170242
I've seen people open those entire boxes and only get ex cards, oh man if you're new to this and chasing for a specific card you're in for a rough ride. Just sell or trade it to get what you want.

>>59170042
>>59170165
Meanwhile in yuropoor the first base booster was 3.5€ and your minimum wage was less than 300€

>>59170323
Yeah, I just started last month and I'm aware, anon. Before I decided to get into pokemon cards, I watched a lot of videos of people opening packs and not getting anything. I know how bad rates can be
I don't mind buying packs every now and then, my concern is finding them in english and I don't know for how long ascended heroes is gonna be in the shops too

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>>59169890

>>59170337
probably for another 2-3 months before it disappears like what happened to recently released sets. buy whatever you can right now.

>>59170116
>>59170156
Lol no. It's a tiny, hard to see indent, maybe 3mm long? MP. If you expect nearly pristine, fucking pay for NM.

>>59170232
>>59170178
Pikachu EX is the one to hold on to longer term. It'll appreciate more than the rest. Nobody gives a fuck about N or Zoarark.

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Mail day

I think the cardass replica looks great

We have Kurts card cum, humidors and cigar boxes, and all forms of scratch repair, and removing full creases from cards.

But I have yet to see someone offer their services in removing/healing whitening on the back of a card. That seems like the final frontier of card repair.

>>59170403
that's... too soon...
I even thought of doing an ascending heroes master set but there's no way I can get all those expensive cards, especially the gengar

>>59170467
This must've cost an arm and a leg + two fingers

>eBay sellers cancel multiple orders
>3-5 days for the refunds to go through
FUCK EBAY

>>59170749
groudon girl kyun kyun

>>59170756
that's team rocket, bro

Ascended hero’s or prismatic evolutions. Both ETBs are the same price right now which is crazy.

ANTI GAMBLING PSA
13 BOXES OF NINJA SPINNER ONLY TO GET JACK SHIT
https://youtube.com/shorts/KcLYJ82un3c

where is the best place to trade sealed items for other sealed items? Trying to avoid having to just sell and take the taxes hit. Do LGS’s do this or not typically.

>>59170824
depends on what you want
I think prismatic is more difficult to find so maybe that?

Is this thread for investor chads or manchildren actually collecting cards.

>>59169449
Im going to assume you're new to this and dont know any better. I just miss the days of ripping shiny treasure ex boxes for $33 like they were candy. And that was only 1.5 years ago.

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>>59170837
That's pretty rough
>using scissors
I'll never ever understand why people do this

Why the fuck does tcgplayer collect sale taxes. So fucking gay that I’m paying taxes on items that were already taxed by the person selling it. It’s literally no different than buying from a garage sale or marketplace.

>>59171019
haha the cat is funny

>investorfags shitting up the thread

ascended heroes to the moon

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fuark

>>59171176
>buy expensive shit
>get shit
why would anyone risk it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rBmWD-4YSc

>>59171176
>Probstein
Oy vey

>>59167847
People always sell off the big cards and coins for nothing. Those are the best parts. How foolish....

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>>59171198
>scalper's face every time a Pokemon product sells for MSRP

>>59171297
the absolute despair in his voice is so fucking funny to me

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Last card show I went to had this lady and her husband selling some AI slop stuff. She was so fucking nice though and it made me wish she was my mother.

>>59171176
Buy singles.

>>59170991
>new
no, I had a break of like 16 years though, half you fags weren't alive when I was collecting.

>>59170477
Could you post a closeup of the holo pattern? I have an original one and I'm curious about the noticeable differences

>>59171552
Are you me?

>>59171339
>AI sloppa merch
>Fanart cards
>Cryptid Camp
Man I remember when the seedy underbelly of TCGs was like, cheap stickers that look like the cards.

Sat in some whatnot streams earlier and theres people slinging Indonesian and korean packs now, and people are paying english inflated prices for them. wtf is happening, people paying 10+ for 1 dollar cards on tcg, saw a dude sell a 12 dollar snorlax for 85 cause he said it was from 151. is whatnot just a money glitch for these people?

>>59172059
Aggressive sales always worked

whatnot is the only reason i have a collection at all lmao
>i WILL enter the giveaway
>i WILL NOT bid
>i WILL NOT share the live
>i WILL NOT tap the screen
>i WILL bookmark future streams (to repeat the cycle)

>nigger selling 151 booster bundle for 170
>doesn't list that it's in chinkanese
The power of scalping is too strong

whatnot is great if you want to see people get scammed in real time

what's a whatnot?

>>59172391
ebay + twitch funded by logan paul

>>59169724
Man I feel bad for today's kids and normalfag parents of today, you can't just waltz into a store and just buy a toy you like because toys are for 30yos now, the ipad roblox brainrot is ultimately cheaper in the long run so you will have to grow up like a complete retard

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>>59171577

>>59172423
lots of parents are paying scalper prices to buy packs for their kids, they'll be fine

>>59172560
I meant the carddass replica

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Mail Day.

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Shitty borgors, but this is a nice holo effect

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Mail day
Bought my first Chinese card a masterball Umbreon and it looks like shit
The holo is dull as hell
As usual the English cards fucked up the holo compared to the Japanese

>>59172832
Looks fake

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Hows that SAR collection going? Many are saying they are the only modernslop cards worth collecting.

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I just bought these on eBay. :)
This was me as well:
>>59169333
>>59169379
>>59172832

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>>59173272
It isn't fake at all, the seller has over 7,500 items sold and a 100% positive rating too. It's a trusted card shop on eBay.

>>59173468
>>59173477
Based

>>59173477
slow news day huh

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When the FUCK did these get so expensive?

>>59173128
>that playmat
I know what you are

>>59173477
Should have been me

>>59173468
I have that V star Deoxys, I love him so much

>>59173128
What's wrong with the chinkeon? Aren't they made in the same place the japanese one are?

>>59173850
Based

>>59173759
Nice I got like 50 of these just laying around, I’ll probably hold for 10 more years tho

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>>59173759
Looks like something happened last June.

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How did Perrin pull this off? I thought she was a literal who.

>>59173947
I think it's a Chinese exclusive
It's not shiny at all, barely holographic dunno it's just really dull. It was three bucks but I was expecting it to be as shiny as a regular holographic card, kinda lame considering this is their master ball

>>59174000
everyone wants a cute girl to look down at them
glad i own 4

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How does this make you feel?

>>59174230
idk, how is it supposed to make me feel? I buy singles from cardmarket

>>59174277
This. So many gambling addicts in this hobby.

How would a person go about trading 1 case of evolving skies booster boxes for 10 cases of Prismatic ETBs. Is there an online site that facilities trades like this? I don't live anywhere near a big city where I could find an LGS or person with such inventory.

>>59174230
are we in a bubble or is this the new reality of pokemon?

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>>59174230
Is 10$ the usual price for those blisters?

>>59174452
It's half of a bubble

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new cards arrived

>>59172560
I meant the carddass replica
>>59173452
Errata corrige: only KANTO* SAR are worth collecting

At the rate they are pumping out sets, no ways these are being drawn by humans. Are all modern cards AI?

>>59173452
I fucking love SAR trainers. Out of picrel I only have 3 of those however.

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Got this two days ago

>>59173272
>faking a $2 card

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>>59167847
guys,whats a reasonable price for this card in decent conditions (ungraded)?

>>59173468
i need my weekly deoxys

5BAN GRAPHICS HATE

5BAN GRAPHICS HATE

5BAN GRAPHICS HATE

>>59171198
>>59171297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNUtreybeVE

>>59168380
This is the only reasonable take in this market. Even if you don't want to sell your cards, it's smarter to just scalp and resell so that you can reinvest to buy what you want.It's toxic, but it makes sense. I'm holding my ETBs at the moment, not with the intent of selling, but if it ever gets to the point where you can buy most of the chase cards in a set by selling one, like has happened with 151, it only makes sense. And if it crashes, I'll rip and be happy that way, regardless of outcome

Holy shit 4chan has been broken for over 12 hours the captcha is fucked today
Sorry for the double post
Would I be stupid for opening another 151 box? Might as well keep it sealed

>>59174901
If i were you i would sell it next month

New Kanto set when????

>>59174998
septmeber

>>59174000
Card is so fucking ugly. But english fags have no taste as always

Post here since this is consumerism general.
The new shirts on pc are really sick. There’s a ton of really ugly hype beast slop that looks like it’s getting more attention, which is great because it means I can get the Explore stuff which actually looks amazing. Probably going to get the Hoenn and Unova ones though I’d prefer Johto and Galar or Paldea if they had my favorite mons from
The region instead of Scream Tail and fucking Marill. Sinnoh is a maybe because Toekiss with a mountain is pretty cool too.

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>>59175502
>The new shirts on pc are really sick.
>There’s a ton of really ugly hype beast slop that looks like it’s getting more attention,
>The new shirts on pc are really sick.
Nigger, what?

>>59175502
pc doesn't ship to my country nor is in it so

>>59175554
That’s the hype beast shit I was talking about being trash.
I mean this stuff https://www.pokemoncenter.com/search/explore?category=tops&sort=launch_date%2Bdesc
The jackets are mid but the shirts are nice

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Mail day

Compared that English umbreon I just bought to the Japanese terastal festival cards I have, as usual the English copies are less shiny

>>59175591
Every day is mail day except Sunday, you idiot.

Cool haul tho

>>59175570
If you're not just buying unlicensed print-to-order t-shirts off Woot, you're doing it wrong.

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Name a more overrated card

>>59175695
Every umbreon and charizard card
And that's coming from someone who owns one of each recent SARs

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Reminder that the best looking rainbow border SAR is 5 bucks

>>59175695
Bubble mew, van gogh, ponchos

>>59175701
Charizard is overrated as fuck but some umbreons are cool

>>59175701
It's shocking how pricey every umbreon, espeon, Charizard, blastoise, and typhlosion card is. I'm teaching my kid the game and wanted to get some of these and the absolute worst, cheapest ones at MP are still over a dollar, and most are at least $4.

>>59175823
the bubble mew is cute tho
but I don't know if cuteness justify the price

>>59175865
Oh hey, I got one of those. Is it worth anything?

did my taxes today, getting $5000 back. im thinking about putting half into pokemon as an investment. thinking a psa 10 ex would be good or maybe a delta species reverse, possibly a gold star.

>>59175902
>Is it worth anything?
yeah, like $2

>see mega Charizard x Japanese at 600-700
>Nah I'll wait
>Immediately jumps above 700
>Fuck fuck fuck FUCK
>panic buy a B rank at $700
>Month later prices jumped above 120000 yen
BULL MARKET
buy the card you're staring at before it's gone forever

>>59175910
Retard. Put it into SPYM.

>>59175929
>buy the card you're staring at before it's gone forever
what if I already used all my money?

>>59175930
why the fuck would I do that? the entire market is about to collapse. like 5 ai companies are holding up the entire us economy. pokemon cards have outperformed the stock market for over a decade.

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>>59175929
>see card I was eyeing
>hmm maybe I'll buy it later
>see new recommended video of a poketuber
>"ARE THESE CARDS UNDER VALUED?!?!" with the card I was eyeing in the center of the thumbnail
>immediately purchase it when I get home
Like /a/ has taught me: ABB

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>blocks anyone from using the pokemon vending machine
whatchu gonna do boy?

>>59176077
give him a burger

>>59175695
xisters... pikachu is so sexy...

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>>59176077
Ol' reliable.

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Level X's are cringe with a tiny holo. But this one is probably the only one I'll ever buy.

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>>59176077
Lure them away

>spent all my money again
>Suddenly find several cards I want
>Only 1 left for each
>It's gone the next day
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKK

>>59176147
The Darkrai promo one is pretty sick.

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Seller swapped my envelop with another customers. I didn't buy the hax, lando, and ting lu. The bottom left i did buy and it arrived safely.

>>59175695
>276/217
Why do these Japanese faggots keep doing this. There’s not such thing at more than 100%

>>59176337
it's a secret, bro
nobody should know about it

Is prismatic evolutions the most obvious play since evolving skies? Seems like less people are interested in evaluations 2026 and AH/30th at better bets in today market

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>>59175502
I bought the Umbreon shoes yesterday on PC, I wanted the Mimikyu shoes instead but they were sold out and I’ll rather cope with retail price Umbreon shoes then pay some shitty scalper triple the price for Mimikyu shoes.

>>59176159
If you put a saddle on a scalper, you can use these to ride ariund on them.

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>>59176077
*shoots you*

>>59176717
A black and a Hispanic btw

>>59176077
shoot him with my gun, that will teach him

>>59176824
I don't know what the worst demographic in the hobby is at the moment.

>black or hispanic genz hype beasts scalping
>genz asian trend chasers who only care because it's cool and currently on trend
>baldfat millennials who constantly cry over collections they stopped caring about and now pretend it's their god given right above all others to collect
>OF models and e-girls who are now capitalising for content with tittystream pack openings to get money from desperate lonely men

>>59168869
>when the dollar becomes toilet paper
But it made the liberals upset so this is a good thing. Now if you excuse me I'm going to the nearest FEMA checkpoint and have a Zionist have the mark of the beast implanted on my right hand to trigger the libtards even further.

>>59176834
Forgot the literal Jew YouTubers like leonheart or Jake paul

>>59176855
Oh yeah

>"poketuber" kikes who constantly talk about STONKS then complain about scalpers trying to make money and taking the moral high ground without realising that STONKS talk is why scalpers are able to make money

>>59176834
>millennials who constantly cry over collections they stopped caring about and now pretend it's their god given right above all others to collect
we were first into this it IS our God given right reeee

Some cards got sniped from me again
Not gonna mention it specifically but let's just say a certain anon is either wrong or is part of the price manipulation because someone is buying up all the cheap copies
>>59176860
Leonheart also made his own app that he shills in his DONT START A POKEMON STORE vid and others

>>59177116
>Leonheart also made his own app that he shills in his DONT START A POKEMON STORE vid and others
It's comedy gold how many people are trying to discourage others from "getting into the game" because they fear it'll damage their profits while also content farming about profits you can make

I thought Leonhart gave up streaming a few years ago. He did a big thing about it. Is he back?

Some fat dude at a LGS I go to often keeps going into debt trying to resell cards he pulled from packs to vendors instead of individuals and sending his cards off to PSA hoping he gets a 10.

>>59177244
how does he go into debt if he's reselling them?

>>59168869
>when the dollar becomes toilet paper
When the dollar becomes worthless, you will be able to trade Pokemon Cards for other currencies that still hold value.

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>>59177315
>delusions of grandeur

>>59176332
Will you give it back Jamal?

>>59177116
>price manipulation
Price manipulation is a complicated term for the idea that currently there are more profits to be had. Other than that it's the same with mtg nerds farming product for themselves and then setting the stakes, which will have no reason to change if they are able to hold onto dead capital

>>59177288
He's constantly reselling at a loss.

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>>59173452
Canari is my new Pokemon waifu but I don’t like how people compare her to Iono, I mean like hey chud thanks for beta testing with Iono but Canari is the final superior waifu.

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Mail day!
I don't get the hate for mega Starmie, he's great

>>59178208
Great if you like shit

what are some nice but relatively cheap Pikas? I love that yellow fucker

>>59167978
i love the deoxys tights card

>>59178499
Those Indonesian Pikachu promos are relatively cheap at around 23-25 bucks.

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>>59177475
Iono mogs Canari

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>>59178499
The sleeping Pikachu used to be $5. Should have stocked up on them when I had the chance.

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What would you do in this situation?

just pulled the Alternate art meowth and the kanto starters from the starters set
Should I sell rn or keep it for future profits??

>>59179096
pick up the cards? What kind of question is this?

>>59179096
it wouldn't happen because I'm not stupid enough to drive around with a stack of open boxes in my trunk

>>59179007
I bought a sleeping Pikachu for $40 but it has an indent on one of the corners that I didnt see before buying it :(

>>59179096
The one in the car is about to fall

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Found some of my old shit