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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

Switch 2 users: Launch the game in handheld mode or undock/redock to get the performance boost

>News
Champion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current season
Warm Up Challenge competition over, Gardevoir reward available
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Season 1 runs until May 13
Mobile release possibly leaked for June

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/
Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Mega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

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i miss staraptor
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i'm so fucking tired of basculegion and sneasler, they are fucking omni-present.
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Shit Game
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https://x.com/DaFloVGC/status/2044391188493435009
in case you were unaware
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>>59177825
sorry i am water absorb
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>>59177825
It's always been like this though right? Darts is technically not a spread move
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>>59177827
tfw no darts absorb
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>>59177835
Yeah, but its still funny
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Man, Alakazama has no coverage.
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you are supposed to make a new one before the last one gets locked...
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there's like no good grass types in this fucking game right now
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>>59177853
what about the stupid tea and cat
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>>59177850
And yet they refuse to use Poison Jab instead, curious.
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>garchomp kills everything on the field with earthquake for game
Classic Chomper
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>>59177860
tea is only useful in certain teams, especially not ones where you already have ghost
cat is just sneasler food, like 98% of the other grass types
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Ultra Ball 1 is actually the 5th circle of hell.

Just lost a game by missing 3 rock slides in a row while their rock slides hit and flinched me.

Random fucking mons carrying protect, guessing whether the sinistcha will rage powder, protect, whether the whimsicott will taunt, tailwind, or moonblast. Fuck me.
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>>59177869
I know what you're feeling, aside from one thing. Unless you can confirm it's a choice scarf mon, you should always go under the assumption that they have protect.
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>>59177869
>Pokemon that don’t have protect
Incineroar
>Pokemon that have protect
Everyone else
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>>59177869
Welcome to "Competitive" Pokemon
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There's few things quite as funny in VGC as making Corviknight players shit themselves as you use icy wind on Milotic to reflect the speed drop and get a competitive boost.
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How much money is champions?
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>>59177927
it's free nigga
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>>59177927
Read the first sentence of the OP
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>>59177927
It’s F2P friendly especially if you have Pokemon in mainline games and Home.
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>Home subscription is going to expire today
Which Pokemon do I need to train for Champions right now?
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>>59177949
you'll still have 30 free slots to use though
even if you didn't the pokemon aren't transferred from home to champions, they simultaneously take up a permanent slot in home until you remove them from champions
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Haven’t played any games in a while so I’m missing a good bit of the pokemon from the past two generations. Which are the most important ones to focus on recruiting first?
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>>59177853
nigga look at the 3rd pokémon in the natdex
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>>59177949
the only pokemon you really need are like
basculegion, sneasler, garchomp, pelipper, charizard (y), rotom-wash, sinistcha, venusaur, milotic, archaludon, whimsicott and incineroar. then you effectively have the backbone for like 3 different archetypes.
i genuinely can't remember last time i even saw a team that didn't have at least 3 or 4 of those fuckers on each team.
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>>59177964
venusaur is garbage outside of sun and i refuse to play sun.
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>>59177971
play mega venu
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>>59177986
>use a mega on a mon that just sits there like a fatass doing nothing in a hyper offense meta
also absolute aerodactyl/pelipper food and seeing how those two are some of the most common mons in the format, kind of pointless
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>>59177860
Meowscarada is pretty meh, the tea is decent/good
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I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING MIMIKYUS
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>>59178019
i want to fight more mimikyus, i wish i got to have more mimikyus instead of the eternal onslaught of basculegion, sneasler, garchomp and mega floette
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>>59177967
My team has 0 of them in ultra ball 1.
Thanks for reading my pokeblog.
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>>59178038
you won't see anything but them once you hit master ball
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How do I activate unburden reliably
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>>59178055
close combat
Picking sneasler makes you a fag though
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>>59178060
With a white herb duh
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Shadow ball or Poltergeist on my aegislash?
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>>59178060
I wanted to use slurpuff….
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>>59178044
Well, but also Kingambit
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>>59178062
poltergeist is consistently higher damage, but you're also subject to the control of intimidate and burns. physical aegislash is higher damage, but has clearer counterplay while special does a tiny bit less damage but is far more consistent for longer periods of time. but then you also have moves that can accidentally trigger competitive/defiant boosts.
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>>59178063
Too many items missing to do that in a good way I think. You'd have to use a hp berry/focus sash and pray or have a resist berry and have your 2nd mon hit slurp with that kind of attack, like brutal swing or something.
Seems pretty bad though. Would be less effort just to have a 2nd mon use tailwind
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I love my ugly wife so much...
I need to get her pregnant...
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>>59178062
I haven’t seen it discussed since Knock Off was removed from its favorite user, but I suspect moves whose power relies on held items are actually going to be very unreliable in a meta where so many of the available held items are consumable.
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>>59178063
Corrosive Gas
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>>59178066
I see a lot of Kingambits on teams, but I rarely see them actually brought into the matches because Sneasler can just eat it alive for free most of the time.
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>>59178055
fling hard stone/light ball/razor claw/poison barb
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>>59178004
what grass type do you want to be added to the game other than amoongus?
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>16-0
I recommend every try mega aggron for the free climb to master ball
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>>59178115
ferrothorn, because gyro ball would be very funny in the current speed-freak meta
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>>59178134
What’s the team around it
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>>59178140
Except Gyro Ball's range for max damage got fucked due to the IV change
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>>59178154
Incineroar to debuff, sinistcha to heal and redirect, pelipper to cover weakness to fire. I rarely use my other two slots but I’ll often bring primarina and dual screen dragapult just in case
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>>59178166
I like mega aggron, I think he's pretty good, but running incin + sinistcha + pelli might be doing the heavy lifting in this team.
I feel like any bulky mega would do well with that support
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>>59178168
I get why you’d say that but the unkillable nuke that is mega aggron is undefeated
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Recommend me a cheesy Pikachu comp
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Any mega lucario teams or are people waiting to use Z.
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>>59178134
what if i wanna use em in singles
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>>59178224
i think i encountered one back in the lower pokeball tiers
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>>59178224
I’m kinda surprised people aren’t using it as long as you have Aerodactyl to cover Charizard it should be fine
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Honestly Incineroar feels really goddamn strong in 3v3 singles too, but I'm still a Great Ball noob.
Is it worth it running Memento on Whimsicott? It feels pretty funny to do it when you're low or the Sash procs.
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>>59178164
it's still one of the slowest mons out there, and going min speed and minus speed nature, you're still gonna hit like a truck, especially with how ridiculously fast everything is these days
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Got to 2k spamming these 3 every game no matter what the enemy team was but now im hardstuck here past few days, want to get champion rank with my boy bolt so bad
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>>59178224
the problem with lucario is that it's more sneasler food, sadly.
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>>59178134
spoonfeed me a team id
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>>59178276
Honestly been running gardevoir as a cover for Sneasler on that same team. It's been doing okay.
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>>59177794
>grab pokemon go and home like that one anon said
>manage to GTS the dumb tiger and stapler
What other mons should I try for? Pelipper?
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>>59178318
Go is so ass right now. The current event is turbo aids.
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>>59178351
I fucking love Fling's Rock on my Weavile
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>>59178340
I know nothing about the events, I’m just grabbing starters to trade off.
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Maybe it says something about me that all of my go-to strategies I come up with are slow, laborious, status effect using roundabout ways of winning instead of setting up and going right for the kill winning/losing in like 4 turns max. Maybe you really do get to know someone through pokemon battles. Maybe I need to set up and sweep my opponents in real life...
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>>59178412
It's why there's castform and trash everywhere
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Do you really not lose rating if you disconnect? My power went out earlier and I'm pretty sure my progress stayed the same.
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>>59178431
I was wondering why there were so many Castform. It’s also why there’s so many Seedot and that one turnermon right?
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>tfw want to try out an all-Water type team featuring one of my favorites, H. Samurott
>have nothing to actually set up rain with outside of manually doing it
Feels weird somehow not having simple staples like Pelipper after wading through them playing gen 3 as a kid.
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>>59178442
You do, it might update after a while or after you play another game
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>>59178497
>not having Pelipper
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>59178283
but sneasel eats gardevoir as well
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>predict the politoed drizzle switch in
>switch in my 0 ev negative speed hippo to sand storm it up
>for some reason my weather goes off first, letting him negate it

This game is a buggy mess
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>>59178497
both politoed and pelipper are around, the fuck are you on about
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>>59178522
That's what not playing any sort of mainline game for probably 20 years will do to you.
I'm sure I could get one on the GTS/GO but that would involve expending effort, so it's gacha pulls for me.
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>>59178443
Your mean binacle? Yeah. Saturday is a Riolu in eggs event if you want to play with that when the Z version comes out.
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>>59177889
doubles are such a joke. I thought maybe the claims about it being more skillful had some merit since there was more things to consider on field, but after reaching masterball I know it's all just VGC players coping with the fact that their "official" format is a coinflip simulator where half of the games are determined by pure RNG and dumb luck and the only reason tournaments use it is because 6v6 would take too long for tournament to end in a reasonable timeframe.
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Is there a list of all the top tier Pokemon that you should have in this game? I can’t transfer from other games, and I don’t want to waste my VP on permanent recruits that aren’t worth getting.
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>>59178568
Yes it's all RNG, that's why people can consistently perform on ladders and in tournaments.
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>>59178568
>coinflip
only if you don't know the format
>rng
no more than any regular pokemon battle
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>>59178568
>6v6tard
>skill issue
Many such cases
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>>59177794
>Tried out a bunch of topdick meta teams
>breddy gud breddy fun
>the team I have the most succes with is a team with Mega Blastoise and fucking Vanilluxe
I almost feel sorry for the Blizzard freezes. almost
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>>59178530
I thought if two weather setters come in at the same time, its dependent on switch order
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>>59178060
>Picking sneasler makes you a fag though
My friend traded me a Shiny H-Sneasel on PoGo. Now I kinda have to, lol
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>>59178577
>Oh he's going for the double protect!
>If this rockslide flinches it'll put Wolfey in a great position
>Dire claw gets the sleep!
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when playing perish trap, what are you looking for to tell you when the trap is worth doing? I've been playing my garbage for like 5 games now because its a funny archetype I want to learn and it feels like there are almost never instances in which it wouldn't just be more efficient to kill over 1-2 turns with shadow ball rather than using song
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Basculegion has absolutely no fucking business doing the damage it's doing when it's using Swift Swim. Fucking increase the recoil on Wave Crash already, it's not nearly enough for the damage it does when boosted by rain. None of the other recoil moves except for Flare Blitz has that benefit, but flare blitz is generally not put on extremely fast fire types, let alone ones that get double speed in their favored weather. don't even get me started on fucking scarf adaptability basc that still manages to fucking one-shot shit through sun with wave crash
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>>59178588
and this is any different from
>wow he swapped into his ghost type on his rapid spin!
>i wonder if the ghost will use rapid spin to remove hazards, or will he set up new hazards!
>wow the opponent swapped into his ghost type on the rapid spin!
>now they are both setting up spikes! it's getting intense here, people!
or you know, the exact same things happening in singles as well. it's not like moves don't have secondary effects in singles. if you understand and can think ahead, you'll often know when a protect is coming and you can use that to set up a weather, or set up something like a calm mind. it's about making reads. sure, sometimes people will just yolo a protect to scout what you're going to do, or try to bait you into attacking into a protect, but you know, that's part of getting experienced in VGC. complaining about protect is generally how you spot a singles player who's trying to get into VGC from a mile away.
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>>59178588
Fuck you for reminding me about h to the usky husky
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>>59178529
I have a fast and tanky lopunny to do fakeout against sneasler so the gardevoir can one shot the sneasel usually.
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Do you get box space for playing Singles ranked too? I already got to Master Ball in Doubles.
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>get outclass by skibidigatr
what make mega greninja so dogshit in the current meta? Didn’t they fix protean now that Tera is gone?
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>>59178628
Either Singles or Doubles works, since you've already made it to master ball you're done.
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>>59178584
I couldn't get Vanilluxe so I had to settle with A-Ninetails, still did the trick it just hits slightly less hard.
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>>59178637
I'd rather use greninja purely because mega gatr looks so fucking gay fuck them for ruining him
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>>59178637
Dragon Type Double Edge goes brrrr
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>>59178639
Ah that sucks. I was hoping for some more box spaces, or more team slots.
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>>59178637
>pikalytics
Someone didn’t reCh masterball to unlock the real stats
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>>59178652
shell out the 6.99 wagey
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>>59178661
I bought the starter pack already :^(.
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They renamed bottoms collector :(
It’s model now
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>>59178564
Is there a way to evolve things fast in Go?
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>>59178682
Just catch/hatch more of it for candy. Raids and dmax (you probably don’t have access to that just yet) give rare candy which you can convert to any species. Some stuff have unique requirements, likeI think you need to walk with Feebas or something.
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>>59178637
Greninja doesn't really do anything that other mons don't do better. If Aaron Zheng is to be believed in one of the most-game interviews, he apparently asked GF about the Protean changes and they supposedly changed because they considered it to be too volatile to constantly change types on a super fast mon, limiting the amount of counter play, especially since Greninja has a pretty wide move-pool.

The person who said it to him could've just been talking out of his ass too, but I genuinely don't think Aaron would just sit and lie. I've met him a few times, genuinely one of the nicest people in the community.
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>>59178318
Wait, you can get decent trades on the GTS? How?
I have some Shiny legendaries I don't care about(Event Raikous and such, have multiple to the point of hilarity)
I could lose one for Sinistcha. Can't be fucked to go trough all the hassle to evolve one in SV
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>>59178605
I'm not complaining about protect, frankly speaking the format would probably be unplayable without it. I'm complaining about how heavily luck factors into games. Double protect and rockslide flinch are a near exclusively doubles phenomenon. The ghost type rapid spin example is a decision by the player. One you can predict and read. You can't predict a flinch, and yet it's a common doubles tactic to just fish for flinches. Having 2 pokemon out means denying a turn is extremely valuable, and with 2 pokemon you're bound to get a flinch once or twice, so banking on that 30% random chance to win is a viable tactic. A player can do everything correctly and still lose because every rockslide is a chance for you to get fucked over that's entirely out of your control. Those situations are possible in singles sure, but it's far less common, and it definitely isn't something you build a pokemon around(unless we're talking about Jirachi, but that's specifically built so that the flinch 'chance' isn't really a chance anymore).

The nature of the format also just makes everything more prone to big swings. You have less pokemon to work with and a much bigger threat on the field. The 4 moves worth of coverage are now 8 moves. If that Aero flinches you at an inopportune moment it isn't just a setback, it's the entire game lost on the spot. Random chance is just far more prevelant and far more impactful.
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>>59178134
I didn't even have to change the stater team with aggron on it, I just put trick room on the whimsicott lol
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here you go, you big flinch baby
covert cloak is coming back soon too
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>>59178637
Scarf Meowscarada is better and doesn't use up your Mega
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>>59178584
what's the team? I love using Vani in Z-A so I want to try it here too.
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>>59178735
https://pokepast.es/c706d484ecbf330c
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>>59178225
You click on the button that says singles instead of doubles
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>>59178706
I just put up starters and ask for what I want and they’re usually snapped up in a few hours.
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>>59178707
>"Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe my series, this game rewards blind luck and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by scheduling with my opponent changing times on me last minute and refusing to provide confirmation prior to the day of the match as to play times, losing this way somehow felt even worse than I had thought possible. My preparation was superior, my play was superior, and I lost, so I don't see a reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not.
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>>59178706
Yeah, you can offload shitty shiny community day stuff for just about anything
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>>59178706
Put up the shiny legendary, ask for what you want. If you’re having trouble getting anyone to bite, search for what you want and see what the asks are; you’ll almost certainly find at least one person offering any given pokemon for Eternal Floette. Eternal Floette is the fungible token of exchange on GTS right now; trade shiny for an Eternal Floette, then spend Floette to claim any mon you want, because SOMEONE is offering it for Floette.
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>>59178766
>shiny for an E-Floette
Gonna try this once I find one in Go
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>>59178769
I’ve traded 4 shinies for E Floettes so far, 3 of which I’ve since turned into Raging Bolt, Walking Wake and Iron Leaves. You’re quite likely to be getting a dupe, but you aren’t keeping them, just using them as currency since the GTS doesn’t allow people to request shininess on trades (but it does display them on offers)
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>Turn 1 H-Zoroark Helping Hand into Mega Starmie Self-Destruct
Okay that was funny.
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>came across a psychopath running only fake out and last resort on kangaskhan
>turn 1 next to sneasler
>sneasler does coaching
>use my aegislash because figure that the kang isn't gonna be able to do anything
>completely forgot about scrappy
>absolutely eat shit
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>>59178781
welcome back pre Unova booms
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No one wants to take my Shiny Garbodor for an Eternal Floette
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>>59178784
>only fake out and last resort
>fake out now cannot be selected after turn 1, rather than failing
That strategy dissolves like sugar in coffee if Kang eats a fake out and can’t click fake out himself, no? I’d say assuming it was running Inner Focus instead of Scrappy was not a dumb thing to do.
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>>59178791
After a day, take it down and put it back. There are so many new bids for E Floette that after maybe half a day or so you’ve been pushed off the page of “what are people offering for my E Floette” results and nobody can see it. When I was offer-refreshing looking to language swap my E Floette for an English one, I saw 2-3 new offers on each REFRESH, which takes what, 15 seconds? Granted a lot of them get snapped up just as fast but still
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>>59178791
Repost it every couple hours so you arent falling too low in the trade list
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>>59178795
as long as you have chosen fake out once, it undoes the lock on last resort. it doesn't need to hit, it just needs to have been picked. last resort checks if you've pressed the button, rather than the action having come out.
and man, i started playing VGC in late sword and shield, i've never seen a Kang in a match before that time. i don't remember what that thing does.
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I'm losing so hard since I got to ultra ball holy shit I suck
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Rate and hate my stupid ass team.
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>>59178805
>>59178806
Makes sense
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>>59178840
why is your clef cute charm?
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>>59178851
Thats an oversight, should be Magic Guard
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>day 24
>still no garchomp in recruitment
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>>59178891
use other dragon types to get dragon type vouchers and use one of them, you're almost guaranteed to get a garchomp that way
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>>59178898
very smart idea
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>>59178840
where torkoal
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Should M Garde have some measure of HP EVs? It’s weirdly frail maybe timid 252/252 is overkill?
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>>59177825
There are two Dragon Darts mistakes everyone makes once. One is Wide Guarding in front of it and two is Protecting with one mon in front of it.
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>>59178939
I have only ever seen a garde be successfully used as Floette but slow
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>>59178776
I’m curious, do the dupes ever get wiped out? Can Gamefreak even tell?
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>>59178062
The three most common items right now are Focus Sash, White Herb, and Sitrus Berry. The first time you can't Poltergeist because the Sinistcha already ate its berry is the last time you run physical Aegislash.
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>>59178953
They can probably tell depending on method but the closest they'll do is just say you can't use it in online play, which is effectively doing deleting them. Actually deleting the mons hasn't happened.
> t. chud who trained up a wonder traded shiny in S/V only to be told I can't use it online a few years back
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>>59178956
Yeah, I figured that too testing it out.
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Is there anything that counters at least 2/3 of Incineroar, Sinistcha, and Sneasler?

This shit is aids combined with Protect, Fake Out, and Rage Powder mind games.
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>>59178062
My physical Aegislash doesn't even use Poltergeist, it's just Shadow Sneak while holding a Spell Tag. Doesn't do as much damage, sure, but it lets me invest more into health since I've always got a priority move on hand.
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>>59178968
Aerodactyl threatens stab SE moves on all 3 and outspeeds. Probably cant ohko incin after intimidate though
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>>59178966
did you try using it and the game wouldn't allow you to bring your shiny, or did someone warn you about getting banned/disqualified or something? I have an obvious an extremely obviously genned shiny houndoom i got from a wonder trade in gen 6 or 7, and i thought about trying to use it in champions but wasn't sure if anything would happen.
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>>59178978
Could do White Herb instead of Mega I guess?
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>>59178985
The platform itself wouldn't let me bring it but I suspect it's because it was genned that generation. I have genned mons from gens 4 - 6 that I can use online no problem today though - Probably crossing generations marks them as valid
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>>59178530
>>59178586
Switches happen in speed order of the Pokemon switched out and weather effects from the Pokemon switched in will resolve in that same order. Leads/free switches are simultaneous and weather effects of the Pokemon switched in will resolve in the speed order of the Pokemon switched in.
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>>59178989
What you actually do: aero in back, swap it in turn one if you think it can get in safely to doge intim
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>>59178968
Sableye
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>>59178978
>>59179022
cool, thanks anons
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>>59179019
I think you might have to run aero with stone edge to ohko incin even if you dodge the intimidate. I feel like rock slide might not do it spread.
Giving up rockslide on almost the fastest mon in the pool feels rough to do though. You can just hope you get the flinch.
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>>59178939
Unless you plan on running 204 hp 252 def you're OHKO'd by a jolly dire claw. Better to just go all in on offense and worry about redirection and speed control.
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>>59178637
Greninja's never been good in doubles
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>>59178997
I wonder if being able to use the duped E-Floettes in champions would do the same.
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Apparently I have to use an entirely different nintendo acount just to play as a girl.
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Fuck it, Psychic/Noise on Mega Gengar to ohko Sneasler.
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>>59178985
The Blastoise on my team I got from /vp/ in Gen 7. The Vanilluxe was some Wonder Trade in Gen 7 from Auslove
Both can be used just fine.
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Fede is top 5 running Floette/Froslass
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>>59179160
>Top 5 running pay to winmon

We know
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>If you send a mon back to HOME and then to another game to adjust its EVs/moves the changes won't be reflected when it visits Champions again
....what
I mean, this doesn't make me angry but rather confuses the fuck out of me? If someone wants to jump trough 3 hoops to change his mons EVs let him? What a bizarre rule lol.
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Archaludon is so good I wish I didn't think its design was stupid as all fuck. Why the fuck is this dude a bridge
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>>59178968
Talonflame
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I want this battle theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Nr8na3pf4
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Does Speed Boost and Baton Pass suck in doubles? I don't have SV or I'd try it myself but I am curious.
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What doubles team are people using for mega gator?
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My spiritomb's fast ball looks so cool on my trainer.... I think I might have contracted balltism
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>>59179215
Pretty niche at best
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>>59179181
If you want to do all that just to avoid paying a couple vp you may as well just train up another in that game and send it to champions
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>>59179173
He's running sash poison touch sneasler
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>>59179181
The game tells you this when you first send a pokemon to Champions. It remembers and prioritizes any changes made within Champions.
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>>59179249
Still using a pay to win mon.
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>>59179181
Because Champions has 2 more EV points than the mainline games.
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>>59179275
>Transfer fully EV'd mons to Champions
>they all have 65/66 EV points, 1 available
Tripped me up at first
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>>59179263
No I know, that's not the issue.
I don't really have a huge problem with it. I just fail to understand. For what purpose?
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>>59179317
I don’t really understand why they made it so tedious to massively change teams. You can’t even buy vp so there’s not even a big monetary aspect to it. It’s just annoying.
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>>59179292
As much as sneasler is overused, I love this fucker and this art makes me love her more
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>>59178641
Thought I had one in Home I wasn’t using but I think it’s still part of my ‘needs to be transferred to Home’ batch in my copy of OR. At work for the next 6-ish hours and will take 30 mins to get it into Home (3DS battery dying and having other issues with it) but it’s yours if you want it.
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>>59179366
>her
But speaking of Sneasler, were they not used as much during Scarlet and Violet?
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>>59179376
You had to wait for the regulations to allow it. Huisui mons came a little while later
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>>59179366
My buddy gave me a Shiny H-Sneasel on Pokemon Go. I'll send it to SV to train and evolve it. Gonna be pretty cool to use that specific one.
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>>59179376
It was a top 5 mon in regulation H but fell off hard in restricted formats since poison/fighting didn't do well vs the most popular restricted mons.
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>>59179324
>You can’t even buy vp
...yet
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>Shiny Delphox in go
>Mega Stone ZzzzzzA exclusive

I fucking hate this shit
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>>59179412
They specifically said you won't be able to buy VP
They never said they won't sell boosts that increase VP gain by 20% or some shit though.
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>>59178605
Vgc players seem very fragile, I see why they like protect so much
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>>59179324
>>59179412
b-but 4chan owns /vp/. They can’t just buy like that? C-can they?
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>>59178707
Don’t you have a 50% chance to flinch at least one pokemon if Rock Slide hits both of them?
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>>59179473
51%, but that's assuming neither one misses
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Italy #1
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>>59179226
I checked the stats in game it seems he’s being thrown into the Archaludon Pelliper team all his most common teammates are just the generic goodstuff outside that
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>Twitch category went from 40k viewers to 6k
I'm fucking scared.
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Kitt... there's no way I'll be able to afford all these trial pokemon by the end of the week. Maybe I could you know... pay some other way o///o
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>>59179530
I mean of course the game wouldn't retain a lot of viewers. The game kinda flopped.
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>>59179534
You can let the trial expire, the pokemon remains to be acquired permanently whenever you want.
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>got to UB in singles
>stopped winning
Send help. I got read like a fucking book
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>>59179366
I like it too. Feels more like a proper evo than weavile.
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>>59179553
She just like walks up to us like she’s joining the conversation of adults. Like she’s an- this is just like an adult woman. Sneasler is her name. She’s standing there. She like crosses her arms. She like taps her foot. She looks me up and down. I’m like OK she’s judging me, like I get it: I’m ugly. I’m not you. I’m never gonna be you.
I thought I was gonna get a helper pokemon. Like, but, this isn’t helping anything this is- actually you’re bullying me. She’s bullying me. Ok? At this point she’s bullying me. And they’re like she’s going to help you, just play the flute for her, so that she can like open her heart to you, right? So I play the flute.
Y’all she fucking laughs at you. She laughed at me. Right? Like she laughs at us. Sneasler laughs at us, that’s not like a thing that pokemon do. Wyrdeer didn’t laugh at me. Ursaluna didn’t fucking laugh at me. This bitch. This B-I-T-C-H laughs at me. I didn’t know pokemon were capable of laughing at people but she laughed in my face.
I have never been more humiliated in my life. Nothing can ever undo the- the like hit my pride took. The humiliation of that moment. You know I knew she was gonna hate it and she did. She did. She hated every minute of it. She laughed at me. She laughed at me like I’m a lowly little worm and it’s like: I know you’re prettier than me. She has more friends than me. She’s more successful than me.
As if I even have any pride left for which to be chipped away at. They tell me to climb into her backpack. They tell me to climb into a basket so that she can carry me up the- up the walls. So now I’m in the backpack of a cheerleader and I paid sixty dollars for this game, I don’t deserve it. I don’t deserve to be humiliated like this.
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So pikalytics updated and is supposed to be good again, thoughts?
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>>59179517
I think it’s like a 41% chance in that case?
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I think Upper Hand is bugged, I used it turn 1 on an opposing Sneasler using Fake Out on my Manetric but because I mega evolved Manetric the Fake Out hit it first and Upper Hand failed.
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>>59179539
Wait, really? So if I can’t buy an Archaludon I can just let a free rental expire and then buy it later without a reroll?
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>>59179575
You would still need to invest in speed to beat Sneasler
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>>59179558
you good dawg?
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>>59179539
That's pretty cool. I expected it to go kaputt when the time ran out
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>>59179580
oh guess I will just kill myself because I was using off meta pokemon with lower speed stats than sneasler
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>>59179553
It's just a bit too lanky for me, I wish it kept Sneasel's proportions like Weavile did.
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Some nips got to Master in Singles using the Pikachu starter. Guess you can't replace skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzct6wwwLG0
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I hate doubles so much it's unreal
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>>59179591
Singles is really weird. Fake out to break sturdy/sash with the huge damage boost from light ball and solid speed is probably pretty good and the line up for Pikachu is the best.
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>>59179587
M-Manectric is faster at 135 while Sneasler is 120, but if we consider most Snealers being Jolly max speed, you definitely need to invest on some speed to get ahead of it
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>>59179574
>10% chance to miss
>of the remaining 90%, 70% chance to not flinch, or 63%
>73% total to either miss or not flinch
>73%*73% or 53.29% chance neither one flinches
>100% - 53.29% = 46.71% chance to get at least one flinch
maths
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>>59179591
Pikachu starter gives you the overall best pokemon, if there's one team to do it with this is it.
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>>59179589
I love them both though
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>claim my free Cherish Ball Gardevoir from participating in the dumb tryhard tournament
>it's male
T-thanks
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How to change gender in pokemon champions and then irl too?
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Why won’t her Maractus listen to her, bros?
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>>59179619
Mine too. I just released it because my starter was a female Gardevoir anyway.
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>>59179628
She doesn't respect her, socially.
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honestly, I'm so tired of this meta that I gave my shit bulk, trapping moves, mud slap, double team, snarl, breaking swipe ect. kinda wish starters had access to basic early game moves, incineroar need mud slap
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>>59179558
Fucking hysterical vid. Her voice fucking sells it.
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>>59179581
nta but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTZ2xtlDU1E
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For me, it's the first slice of Great Ball 1. This is my home. It's been a week and I all roads lead back to this. I am almost tempted to use the Mega Floette that I'm sitting on but I am better than this.
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>>59179620
>In Champions
You can't
>IRL
You can't
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>Another Sneasler and Incineroar lead into my Farigiraf and bulky Kangaskhan
>Fake Out the Sneasler
>Incin Darkest Lariat’s my Farigiraf, barely lives as always
>Set-up Trick Room and Twin Beam the Sneasler next turn
>Hammer Arm the Incin to kill it with Kang
>Opponent concedes
>Pic
It’s only low MB tier but it’s still funny as hell how often this has happened.
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>>59179690
>but I am better than this.
Are you? Or are you afraid using it still won't get you out of GB1?
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>>59179620
Only semi-related but I’m a bit annoyed and surprised there’s no option in the training menus to change Pokémon’s forms like Rotom. I’ve got the others and plenty of box space but this is going to be a pain in the ass down the line for things like the Forces of Nature.
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>>59177794
>master is now revolving around 3 megas nonstop
It's over man. No originality. Also so much for the potentialmen new megas. They never get used.
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>>59179424
It sucks but you can transfer both as all you need is to transfer a Delphox from ZA to instantly get the stone in your Champion’s mailbox and Fennekin is obtainable before halfway through a ZA play through
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>>59179694
Kek, gonna try this. I was running Farigiraf with Snorlax but I got stuck in Ultra 1.
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Mega Aggron has been putting in the work for me. Nothing like deleting Mega Floette with THE WALL
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>>59179708
I’ve see a few Mega Dragonite in low MB tier and a few Golurk and Crabominable but I’m still baffled as to why they gave the most new Megas such shit abilities. By comparison, Mega Kang dominated 2014 but there were still enough people out there using a bunch of the other Megas that the meta never felt too stale at any one time.
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lmao is this an anagram to summon Arceus?
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>>59179700
This is Pokemon, anyone can get to Master an hour after you start netdecking half your team.
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>>59178806
>>59178805
It worked. Now to decide what shiny I want to trade for Floette. Ideally something evergreen, maybe even a mon that isn't currently in Champions...
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>>59179743
To be fair, you need to know what the hell you're doing even with meta teams
t. Dude who is getting filtered in UB
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>>59179710
I’ll openly admit I got the idea from someone on Reddit, but Farig’s Armor Tail stopping all priority moves is too good to pass up. The sole exception to this is when I’ve faced a Zard Y team where I instead lead with Scarf H Typhlosion, then I get Farig to Helping Hand while it Eruptions to murder the field. I’m a bit annoyed I had to luck into Farig with the gacha system because I didn’t shill out for SV and couldn’t get my own but I got there in the end.
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>>59179743
Nah Ultraball is filled to the brim with hardstuck shitters using netdecked teams. If you don't have the basic knowledge to think about what your opponent is going to do next turn then you won't climb.
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So many Milotics try to perma stall when it's 1v1 and they always end up losing. Is this mon the sore loser chud's pick?
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>>59179708
>>59179726
YOU DO NOT LIKE MOLDBREAKER ON NEW MON TO MAKE IT INCOMPETENT SHIT? side note wow kangaskan is not really relevant anymore when he used to dominate. what changed? sneasler and incin are cancers?
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>>59179773
It’s the PLEASE BRING INCIN AND PARTING SHOT ME mon
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>>59179780
Parental Bond also got nerfed from 50% to 25%
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>>59179764
This is me. I just netdeck but idk what opponents are gonna do. Does it just come with practice or should I watch some vids to get an idea?
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>>59179780
Mega Kangakan's ability was nerfed and also lost power-up punch.
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>>59179798
>>59179803
oh you're right. it's been a while. but he was already nerfed like that in s/m iirc? and he still used to see play without those. for champions it has to be something else.
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>>59179796
kingambit does it better desu
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corviknight is so cringe
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>>59179780
>he
Also, no Return which means no reliable moves without recoil
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>>59179861
:pregnant_man:
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>Master ball 4 has people who still try to fake out or sucker punch Farigiraf.

I understand getting knowledge checked, but in master ball?
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>>59179867
I have seen Poltergeist spam on a pokemon without item. Carried by the busted meta teams, I reckon
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>>59179201
>hy the fuck is this dude a bridge
Well he evolves from a bri'ish mon and the london bridge was famous for an electrical phenomenon known as St Elmo's Fire, so there's that explanation
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>>59179867
The ladder has winstreaks. The longer the seasons goes on the more people will be in Master Ball just from lucky winstreaks even with a bad total W/L record.
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>>59179675
amazing
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>>59177794
Guys is Mega Gallade the anti-meta mon right now?
>Outspeeds and OHKOs Meganium with Poison Jab (at max physical bulk it is a range)
>Outspeeds and OHKOs Zard Y with Stone Edge
>Outspeeds and OHKOs Tyranitar with any decent fighting move
>Outspeeds and OHKOs Pelliper with thunder punch (probably with help to bring down sash)
>Not weak to Sneasler and can OHKO it with any decent psychic move (probably with help to bring down sash)
So many of the overused mons have 4x weaknesses and this buckbreaks almost all of them.
However sucks shit into Froslass and Mega Floette and I think it has a pretty neutral matchup with Garchomp.
Am I retarded or am I retarded and noticed something good?
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>>59179589
Weavile needs a 3rd evo
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>>59179867
The game forces you to get to master ball if you just keep playing, the ball ranks don’t mean anything only master ball elo tells you if your team works
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>>59179883
If it had inner focus as a pre-mega option to prevent intimidate it would be a lot better.
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>>59179780
losing power up punch
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>>59179892
Yeah I thought of that too, it sucks. I wish we had more tools against intimidate right now
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>>59179708
Seeing how they fucked up the other Megas turns Chimecho keeping Levitate into a bigger win than it should be. It's boring but it also only has 3 weaknesses if it's not up against Mold Breaker and walls a shocking amount of stuff.
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>>59179874
Turner's bong trivia...
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>>59179820
>gets flare blitz'd
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Made it to master in singles. Now trying to climb in doubles. Never really played doubles but I'm having fun. I like to lead with excadrill and choice scarf rotom to bait out weather or other counters. Then I either volt switch into hippowdon or do something else.
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>>59179938
Dang you really like Earthquake
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>>59179938
that's ultra ball buddy
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>>59179951
>made it to master in singles
>now I'm trying to climb in doubles
>>59179950
Even Gyarados has it.
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>>59179892
Wait no
>Still OHKOs full physical bulk Ttar with close combat at -1
>Still OHKOs Zard in a range at -1 (99.4% is the minimum damage at full physical bulk, it's barely a range)
>Minimum 62% on full physical bulk Meganium (max 91.9% if they have nothing in defense)
>Still OHKOs Sneasler at -1
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>>59179956
if it's not the rank up pic I don't want it
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>dire claw even at 30% is extremely cancer
Holy FUCK FUCK SNEASLER AIEEIIE FUCK HIM HER XHEM
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Is the outfit in the battlepass only the female version of this outfit?
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No one expects the Mega Glalie explosion. Ultra Ball Rank hell yeah
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>>59179989
Probably the dude set in M-B next month
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>>59179998
I got hit by it once last week, was surprised. It took Hatty down to sash and didn't kill Torkoal so I was still able to sweep, but it was memorable
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>>59179998
>pidgey used protect!
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>>59179989
Yes. The battle pass for next season already leaked, it will have ZA male clothes
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>>59180014
Have the battle pass rewards actually leaked or are you trolling?
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>>59180036
Not trolling. And it makes sense they're saving ZA male clothes for next battle pass anyway

https://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-champions-battle-pass-season-m-2-rewards-leaked/
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>>59180046
>all obtainable in shop right now
Surely that means Feral and Emboar stones will be released next season?
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>>59180073
>>59180046
>only mega stones for mons we currently have
That's kinda shitty. I hope they aren't keeping the meta exactly the same until mobile release.
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>>59180073
>no floette or kalos starter megas
man fucking devs these battle passes suck
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>>59180073
Wow that's lame, I have like 70% of the meta mons without importing already. Wish if gave more recruitment tickets or something.
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they are going are going to fill us up with cherish ball pokes to use our box space and make us pay the sub
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>>59180108
You can just send them on a one way trip to ram ranch.
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>>59180091
Floette is too exclusive for them to put in a BP just like that
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>mega dragonite with weatherball
>politoed for rain
>sableye for sun and support
>rime for snow and support
>hippowdon for floette and sand
>appletun for apple
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>>59180091
>>59180117
I wonder what they are gonna do about Floette when mobile comes out. Mobile only players won't have access to ZA.
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>>59180134
Floette isn’t ever gonna be rentable because there’s explicitly just the one
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>>59180073
So going by this pattern
>April - Harmony (Z-A)
>May - Paxton (Z-A)
>June - Juliana (SV - Orange uniform)
>July - Florian (SV - Purple uniform)
>August - Akari (PLA?)
>September - Rei (PLA?)
>October - Gloria (SwSh)
>November - Victor (SwSh)
Now I am not sure if it's Gen 7 for December or exclusive like a santa suit or it's gonna be LGPE
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>>59180142
When are they giving away Zarude Dada again, I missed mine because I wasn’t back into pockemon around then
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>>59180145
I doubt that they'll continue this once we reach the female playable character that wear actual dresses and skirts, going by how recent Pokemon games have handled customization.
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>just lost an otherwise untouchable h-goodra endgame to fucking soak pelipper
This losing streak is going to make me kill a man
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>>59180142
It's ok you won't ever have to worry about that. Mythics are never vgc legal
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>>59180154
Meant for >>59180147
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>>59180073
Wait, are those not in the shop?
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>>59180160
Yes, unless they change it, Gengar will be the free mega just like Meganium this season. If you bought the stones earlier, you would be reimbursed 2000 each
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Maybe +6 evasion bright powder w/ sand veil was a meme strat after all... I just wanted to annoy my opponent *sniff* and win 100% of the time
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>>59180168
okay verlis, its time to sleep
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>>59180168
>no guard sheer colds your garchomp
nothing personnel kid
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>>59179589
I reproportioned it to see how it'd look less lanky. Might be a little too close to regular H-sneasel. Maybe if they mixed elements from weavile to more clearly differentiate the 2 designs.
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>>59180160
It's nothing new when ZA starters' mega stones were already in the shop too.
Battle passes just give youpokemon in cherish balls along with free mega stones.
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>>59180221
Lame.
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>>59179553
>and in walks—on two legs. Bipedally walks—this cheerleader with a side pony and a manicure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTZ2xtlDU1E
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Is eternal floette transferable to sword/shield or ZA with home?
If so could I make a eternal floette with whatever flags it has to make it seem like it is from ZA in swsh/sv pokehex and then trade it to a legit swsh/sv copy to transfer it to home?
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>quick claw procs twice for my opponent g-slowbro
Not even mad but what is the odds?
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>>59180266
>or ZA with home?
Or SV I mean.
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>>59180266
Anything that was caught in ZA or gets transferred into ZA can no longer return to any older titles.
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>>59180268
id be mad
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>>59180279
Fug.
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>>59180268
4%, or 20% of 20%
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>>59180154
I have to worry about it because its not in my dex
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I've hit Ultra 2 and I'm getting reamed over and over
I'm glad the game doesn't seem to let me drop back to 3
Dropping between 3 and 4 was obnoxious
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>>59180266
Eternal Floette isn't in any pokedex except ZA anyway.
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Will she be the Sneasler to Kanto Ditto
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>>59180310
She dire claws me until my sash pops and activates gooey
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>>59180266
In principle the legitimacy checker should recognize it as an invalid game of origin / last game travelled to and Bad Egg it. Unless you have a boner for it having your OT, better bet is to use your Genning powers to make a Shiny Miraidon and throw it up on GTS for an E Floette, you’ll have one in a couple hours
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>>59180308
I mean charizard wasn't in any pokedex before the dlc in sv, but he was still in the files.
I was hoping floette was in a similiar situation
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>>59179226
I ran with with whimsicott, scarfed arch, Scizor, incin, conk and Sylveon and had decent success. Quite a few people sleep on his bulk, or still think electric/grass moves kill him. Floette murders him though
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>>59180356
If you have access to SV but not ZA and want an Eternal Floette then just pkhex (or use a tradebot) for a shiny legendary then put that on the Home GTS for a Floette.
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>>59180351
>Shiny Miraidon and throw it up on GTS
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>>59180316
Nice
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>swap from mega dragonite to frosslass cause I was doing horrible with it despite liking the design
>suddenly I'm braindead mashing buttons climbed to ultraball
yeah I might be the woat
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>tales from greatball
I am yet to see a single person NOT try to use a priority move vs farigarif.
>incinerator cannot use fakeout
>dragonite cannot use extreme speed
>whimsicott cannot use encore
top kek nobody down here knows what farigarif does, lets see if the esteemed gentleman of ultraball know.
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>>59180385
Yeah, no point in dealing with protect mind games when you can spam spread moves on every mon.
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>>59180422
Waiting for someone to start running sap sipper in ultra to trick venusaur/meganium into giving it a boost
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What's the Aggron build?
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>>59180436
I ran into that once on a Goodra
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I didn't make it to Master Ball before PRAGMATA released. It's over.
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>>59180427
I might have to learn at some point but for now spam spread. only got wideguarded once and it was when froslass was in the back and it just stopped garchomp rock slide so it didn't even matter that much. I don't really care win or lose I deserve to be stuck in the shitter ranks for how bad I play
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>>59180438
32 def EV's with Def boost from nature, megastone item with moves iron defense and body press. You don't need any other EV's or moves good luck
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>>59180452
Why would you go max defense if you are pressing Iron Defense anyway? You get so much more value out of going special defense so you don't get completely destroyed by neutral special hits.
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what button do i press to forfeit
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>>59180469
Max Def, Max HP
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>>59180488
Okay. Now read the post you just quoted.
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>>59180493
Max HP, Max Def
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Why does everyone look like a tranny or femboy in this? You can make your character look not like a faggot in 2 minutes
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>finally get in a position where I can get a clean hit in on sneasler
>"okay, now to 1hko!"
>every one of my four moves is not very effective
What is this fucking pokenon
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>ultra ball
>bro still used outrage on primarina
?
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>>59180562
bro thought she was milotic :skull:
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>>59180562
Always predict #trust
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Lmao I've been stuck on pokeball rank 3 all day I'm legit the worst played ever
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>important turn
>thinking hard
>running out of time
>time runs out before i can click my move and the game defaults to picking the first move on both mon
>it turns out to be the best play
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Now I realize... I am not good enough to make non-meta work. I am just losing 24/7 in master trying out mega Hawlucha. I need to stick to Floette and Charizard Y.
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>>59180579
That is impressively bad when bots gives you free wins
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>rotom-wash with HP/Def can tank M-Starmie even without Burn
I guess it's not called Smogon Wash for nothing
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You'd expect charizard Y players in masterball to maybe consider a ttar switch in to disable the sun, but no. They keep clicking solar beam even if it means their doom.
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>>59180610
Well yeah the bots are easy but I've not won against a single real player
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>>59180579
>>59180625
post team
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>>59180611
252 Atk Huge Power Starmie-Mega Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 150-177 (49.3 - 58.2%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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>>59180629
Gallade (mega) jolly
Sacred sword
Psycho cut
Shadow sneak
Protect

primarina quick claw
Hyper voice
Moonblast
Flipturn
Protect

Whimsiscott focus sash
Moonblast
Taunt
Tailwind
Protect

Corviknight leftovers
Body press
Iron defense
Taunt
Protect

Arcanine sitrus berry
Flare blitz
Close combat
Extreme speed
Protect

Tryanitar lum
Rock slide
Knock off
Dragon dance
Protect
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>>59180660
>quick claw
erm?
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>>59180662
I just haven't bought other items
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>>59180660
I don't know how you could possibly be stuck in pokeball with this unless your EVs are totally fucked and you are using the wrong abilities.
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nigger i made it to masterball with one of the free starter teams they give you when you first boot up the game you have no excuse
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>>59180653
I thought most use Psycho Cut instead. But I suppose that Will-o-wisp is important
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>>59180677
Nips are able to reach Champion with the Pikachu starter team so at one point, it's all knowledge check
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I guess I'm just retarded
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>>59179201
He's a stapler remover too, it honestly is one of the best designs in Pokemon when it comes to objectmons
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>>59180687
just get farigarif and click trickroom its free wins in low elo
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>>59179366
Honestly I've started to warm up to it
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>>59180660
>>59180687
I kinda wanna see you pilot this team. Maybe you just arent well versed in knowing how your team works
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I’m hard stuck at great ball 2 trying to make Mega Golurk work…
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>>59180714
I've gotten to ultra 1 with mega golurk trick room, you can do it
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>>59180714
you make mega golurk work by using his base form and using a different mega instead
>but muh unseen fist
click phantom force and you can do full damage through protect
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WHAT THE FUCK BLASTOISE GETS FAKE OUT?!
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How do I make audino work
I just think ally swap is kind of funny, so is wishpassing
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>>59180729
You pray they buff it with follow me in the future
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I tried Mega Chandelure but I don't like the team comp that makes it work, I really could use Indeedee in this game
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>>59177794
>spend vp making a team
>it doesn’t work
>out of vp to fix it
This system is so ass, do they seriously expect casual players to stick around with it
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>>59180738
The game showers you in VP from wins, dailies, weeklies, and achievements. Not to mention the training tickets that can cover the entire cost. How could you possible run out that easily?
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>>59180706
Probably not but I did just get to pokeball rank 2. I've not played competitive is years so I don't really know the matchups. I just keep running into rain teams that wreck my ass though
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>>59180743
I am retarded is why
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>>59180743
Probably a retard who wasted all his VP recruiting random shit instead of actually playing the game
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Do you make sure your time has equal amounts of Special and Physical attackers or do you go full Phys/Spec unga bunga anons?
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>>59180748
You want a mix of both so you don't get hard walled by 1 thing.
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>>59180748
how the fuck did I mess up team that much
did I get dyslexic in my 30s?
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Building a Corviknight right now, do I just go all in on HP and Defense? What about it's nature?
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>>59180760
Check in game
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>>59180764
what game? I transferred mine from Sword
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>>59178741
Thanks anon, finally got to Master with this, spamming Water Sprout + Blizzard feels good.
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>>59180771
He means check the builds ingame. Go to Battle > Battle Data in Champions and you can view the most popular builds.
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>>59180771
The game has its own game data for you to refer to. That said, Impish should be the proper nature
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E.T.bros...
I am proud of my garchomp soloing 3 mons because it's a trickroom team and they never trick roomed under my pressure. I did forget that phantom force goes through protect. Whoops.
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>have no pokemon games
>see kingambit that I've been trying to get for days
>pick the shiny rampardos over him
well maybe some other time gambit. I NEED this
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>>59180801
Post your Rampardos set. Have you had any luck using it?
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>>59177794
Can I change Rotom’s form with vp or do I have to do it elsewhere before moving it over from Home?
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>on a 10 game win streak
>queueing up has me anxious as hell knowing that my opponents are going to try to end my streak as best as they can
I hate this, why does the game have to put such a huge target on my back
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>>59180807
I don't think you can forme change in Champions, unfortunately. Maybe it would be something they included in training
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>>59180805
hell no I got giga shit on copying trickroom teams and putting him because no one's made a set for him. had to copy older comps. but it doesn't work there's no life orb... I have a sitrus berry on him idk what to put on his ass.

but it's trickroom sheer force 252hp/252atk/4spd
protect/rock slide/iron head/earthquake
don't take my shit it's not useful. sheer force is good but just not quite good enough without the tiny extra damage from life orb.
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I spent all my vp on style
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>>59180820
Fuck. Well, alright I guess
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>>59180801
Huh. I also need a Kingambit but have just been using Prim as a replacement (don't ask how it's a replacement it's not. prob Milotic should take the place for defiant/competitive).
Using https://pokepast.es/821f36449b21ffb2, a basic Froslass team but ultra ball lets me get away with being bad and not optimal. It's a fun team.
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>>59177967
The Sneasler kept spamming Close Combat, the Basculegion kept spamming Wave Crash. What could I have possibly done
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>>59180841
set up tailwind!
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Is there anyway to stop whimsicot from setting up tailwind?
They usually just protect both mons and the go ham the next tun?
Or do I just have to run a trick room mon for the whimsi lead?
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>>59180845
fake out/your own tailwind/trick room
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I think they should make slower Pranksters go first desu
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>>59180841
Highly recommend a ghost/steel type for Sneasler. I mean the only one is technically Aegislash because unless the Sneasler is running some unorthodox set - you KO everything around the Sneasler and keep your Aegislash alive - they literally can't touch it. SOME people have made adjustments to this and carry Shadow Claw, but that means it either can't protect, or it can't fake out which is a compromise most people aren't willing to do.
Basculegion, I have no fucking clue how to consistently deal with. All the decent grass types that can deal with it, die to everything else in the meta right now. Arboliva is typically the hard counter to Basc, but that's not in the game because they want to hard avoid any auto-terrain setters.
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>Just fought some newbie in UltraBall tier who kept switching his Peliper in and out to try to negate my M-TTar's sandstorm
>I just Dragon Danced and proceeded to not bother switching and hitting the attack button
>Sweep
some people really do think too hard huh...
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I just started and I'm climbing up Great Ball right now. Haven't been set in a Trick Room situation yet I think because people see my Aggron and mystery gift Machamp and think I'm gonna get buffed when in reality I have no idea what I'm doing. Like I clearly see like Farigaraf etc but they're never used
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how is basculegion so fucking strong in this regulation? I don't remember him being this prevalent before even on weaker regulation A-B in s/v. maybe I'm remembering wrong. or was it just that dondozo took his place during that time?
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>>59180864
more good Electrics maybe?
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>>59180864
Ghost/Water is an extremely powerful STAB combo with very few answers. People have also started running Head Smash in order to counter stuff like Heliolisk so you basically have no choice but to sacrifice something for free when it hits the field. It's a fucking retarded piece of shit mon which is why you see it all the time.
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>>59180857
Thank you, anon. I was thinking I'm just gonna suicide Wild Charge with the speedier Aqua Tauros to handle Basculegion and resist Sneasler since I have one that's shiny. I just never had a chance to sit down and build a team around it and I'm kinda saddened by the lack of Life Orb but when I get some time I think I'll do that
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>>59180864
Basc was put in it's place by Rillaboom because grassy terrain + grassy glide could OHKO it so they had to invest less into sheer offense. But right now, you can just go in with Adaptibility + Scarf, flip turn into something that doesn't care about the move that's incoming, or hard resists it and keep doing that until you can clean up with Last Respects. Especially with how there's not really any good normal types except for Farig, Mega-Lopunny and Maushold and most people tend to focus down Farig/Maus the moment they hit the field so that you can't bring them in late if you're running Basc.

As much as everyone hates Rillaboom now because he's always paired with his red, feline cousin for constant fake out pressure - Rillaboom was the gatekeeper to keeping shit like Basc in check.
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Is there any reliable guide in team composition and perhaps what to send out? I definitely suffer from both issues
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>>59180845
Adamant Dual Wingbeat Talonflame holding a Sharp Beak. But that only works 57% of the time, and only if they don't invest any EVs into defense.
Another thing you can do is Fake Out the opposing Whimsicott while setting up Tailwind with your own Whimsicott and then even if they protected you can Taunt them the following turn.
Or, just set up Trick Room.
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>>59180883
Wolfe released 2 videos on these 2 exact topics last week.
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>>59180884
>>59180846
Yeah I'm already running sinistcha
Probably gonna run trick room on it.
Team is already pretty slow outside of sneasler and gengar so might as well.
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>>59180885
personally it was too generalized so I felt too stupid to understand concepts. I need examples.
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>>59180888
Okay, either give us pokemon you want to work with, or more specific concepts. Like, Wolfe's videos are quite good at explaining most things, so if you need more specifics, you need to be more specific as well.
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>>59180885
Thanks, I'd check them out later
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>>59180841
Both Sneasler and Basculegion have very low physical Defense
Sneasler crumples to any super effective physical attack, just be mindful of Focus Sash variants
Basculegion is trickier with Choice Scarf, but Sucker Punch usually fucks it
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>>59177967
thats funny i have exactly 0 of them in my masterball team
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people are sleeping on sylveon hard. its a budget mega-flotte without using a mega-stone.
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I'M A GREAT BALL 1 SHITTER
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>>59177967
Can confirm, my own team has Garchomp, Sinistcha and Milotic rn. But I'm thinking of dropping Garchomp for some better coverage and support.
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>>59180913
The problem with Sylveon is that it doesn't really have anything to deal with stuff like Sneasler or Basculegion. It can hit hard, sure, but you can also hit hard with a fairy mega that can just straight one-shot those issues instead.
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Could Mega Banette work as a turn 1 trick room setter? I've had some good luck climbing to Ultra 3 with my TR team but I'm trying to fine tune it. Right now I'm using Firagiraf and G. Slowking as my setters, with Golurk, Drampa, Torkoal and Abomasnow as the rest.
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>>59180942
M-Banette is in that awful speed tier where it's not really that good on a trick room team because a lot of regular mons are slower than it, therefore faster in trick room and not that good outside of trick room because it's below a lot of important speed tiers.
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>>59180883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOt8hrleTbM
check this guys vids he covers all of what your looking for
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Speaking of Banette what's a decent set? Max Attack, some bulk investment, Wisp/Poltergeist/Knock Off/Destiny Bond?
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>>59180942
M Banette doesn't have good defenses to tank for a trick room turn and prankster is NOT helping with that -7 priority.
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>>59180942
If you wanna use your mega on a trick room setter then use Chimecho or Slowbro.
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>>59180958
A mix of wisp, encore, sucker, dbond, protect, polter?
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Is champion rank or elo dependant?
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>finally got out of Ultra 4
>on a 5 game winstreak
>almost there to Ultra 2
>get fucked by late game Competitive Milotic after I carefully destroyed MegaCharY, Incineroar and Garchomp
I unironically run the electric rodent, so I think had I ran that instead of Sinistcha into this match up, I would've killed it in one Fake Out + Volt Tackle.
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>>59180994
From my understanding, you don't decay from the rank you reached even if you hit a loss streak, most likely to discourage you starting a new account and to not be as unforgiving as shit like League.
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>>59180996
>you don't decay from the rank you reached even if you hit a loss streak,
You can in ultra ball and lower atleast.
t.shitter.
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>>59180996
You CAN decay in master ball tier. I've gone from master ball 3 to master ball 4
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>>59180995
Do you run Lightning Rod? Electric types feel kinda rare honestly.
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>>59180972
Honestly surprised more people aren't running Mega Chimecho. In a metagame where Garchomp, a poison/fighting type and a fairy is going absolutely rampant, having levitate, a reliable one-shot (since if Sneasler wants to do damage to Chimecho, he has to use Close Combat since it's immune to Dire Claw) and 4x resist Fairy.
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>>59181003
I don't run anything that really screams "wow, hit me with Thunder", so I dropped it for Static.
I'm mixed on the build since I saw some Nips run Fake Out, Nuzzle, Protect + Volt Tackle, but I run mine with Knock Off.
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>>59181005
It's just not really an immediate threat. When charizard or floette are on the field you need to deal with them asap. Chimecho just kinda sits around praying you ignore it long enough to build up cosmic power into stored power.
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>>59181005
Let's entertain this idea, how do you even build around Mega Chimecho? And what do you run on it? Checking his moves, he looks very underwhelming and doesn't have a lot to potentially deal with Zard or Incineroar here.
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>>59181032
>build up cosmic power into stored power
why would you remotely assume that's how it needs to be used, is this some singles thinking
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>>59180819
This used to happen to me in Tekken when I'd have a 20 win streak, and when someone did beat me they'd one and done me...
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>>59181089
> Win streak back in Tekken 7
>Promo match
>Paired against a King
>Fucker keeps giangt swinging me
>I fail the tech twice because muh anxiety
I'm still mad. Mostly at myself though. Why do i let this shit get to me? it's just a fucking game lmao
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>>59180952
M-Banette is a tailroom mon. It can work inside of trick room, and it can work inside of tailwind, and if you bring both you can decide at team preview which mode is gonna make your opponent’s day worse. Low-mid 70s is a great speed stat for this.
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Trick Room anon here, asking about Banette earlier. I just caught this in Scarlet. Does he have any use on a TR team in this meta? Without good items, Guts is out of the question so Sheer Force or Iron Fist?
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This is my first time really attempting Comp Pokemon, but whilst I make a lot of mistakes still, the one that vexes me the most is the pre-battle Pokemon selection.
I fucking fumble half the time.
Don't get me wrong, I make plenty of mistakes during the matches, and I am learning from those. But I feel like 50% of my losses were due to me picking the wrong mons/leads.
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>>59181164
Of course, Iron fist with Drain Punch and Mach Punch, he can ruin an Incineror's day even after Intimidate, he's also very solid against sand teams.
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>>59181164
outside of like, mega crab, conk is like one of the absolute strongest TR mons out there right now. if nothing else, it gets thunder punch so if you get TR up, you can absolutely delete the current rain weather fuckers
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There's so many neat megas I'd like to try, but I just know it's not gonna be worth it. Like I really like Mega Sharpedo, but that thing is just gonna instantly die in the face of Sneasler. Mega Altaria - dies to Sneasler. Mega Banette, dies to Basculegion. Mega Chesnaught, dies to Aerodactyl.
People kept saying "its gonna be so much fun playing such a new, varied and fresh format" and even on day 1/2, it was mathematically reduced down to 3 different teams, with minor changes to shape the meta. Sure, you can do well without that but you also have to work SO much harder.
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>>59181289
I definitely think they should start banning Pokemon that see TOO much use, or at least removing some of their utility.
There's zero reason for Dire Claw to apply anything outside of a poison status.
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>>59181233
At some point you need to stop trying to predict (exactly) who your opponent is going to pick and trust you made a good core instead of trying to hard counter everything they got.

If you're not sure what to do, try a suicide lead (like Aerodactyl) that just comes out to set up or hit something before going down so you can get some consistent value and go from there. Sometimes the problem isn't that you're picking the wrong Pokemon but that you're not giving yourself options to deal with them through move/ability selection. Experiment.
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>>59181289
You have five other Pokemon to pick from. If you want to use off-meta megas compensate somewhere else on your team. Sneasler is gay but not immortal.
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>in battle
>both me and opponent get hit with bad luck
>i miss with blizzard 3 times (twice against a sneedsler)
>opponent misses with heat wave twice (once against a garchomp)
>opponent concedes
>i rank up into ultra tier while my opponent remains hardstuck in great tier
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>>59181289
Put aerodactyl or farigiraf on your team and sneaslers are free kos 95% of the time.
They have twin beam and dual wingbeat so even sash sneaslers cant survive
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How far can I go with Mega Starmie self destructing?
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>>59181396
>protect
>protect
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>>59181396
Risky + it’s strong enough to oneshot most things without killing itself

Maybe a consideration for a fourth move but as your primary strategy? Try something else
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I hope swampert will be good once he is in the game.
He is my favorite mon.
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>>59181396
Ultimate poker move, you rename your Starmie selfdestruct, you lead with it and a ghost and then turn 1 when your opponent double protects you press Bulk Up instead.
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Nobody ever expects a prankster skill swap into a destiny bond :)
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I just came up with a super cool team idea, but its hard countered by god damn incineror.
Fug
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How do I make Hydreigon good? It's my favorite pseudo.

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