>>12400447
most retro games were developed very fast. sometimes in less than a month.
recent displaced gamers video is a good example. he posits there is evidence in commando they were in the process of altering a big piece of the sprite rendering when they were forced to wrap it up, leaving entire logic paths in the code incomplete. the people paying for the development usually were just like “does the game turn on? great. send it.”
https://youtu.be/OauZmS0Klxw?si=K8M7Qf5CLLL-fWgu

I think it's a design choice and not a programming error

>>12400450
Thanks for that channel recc, haven't heard of it. Checking out now

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>>12400450
This was made in 3 months and I still don't even believe that considering how good it is and how much it mogs the NES Mega Man games without any assets to reuse.

>>12400447
I've read this like five times and I have no idea what the fuck this is even trying to say, imply, or claim to fix.

>>12400456
Didn't you know? Anything that a specific person doesn't like is clearly stupid and is never a design choice, or if it is, it must be bad design or something.

>>12400471
It's a rom hack to allow two players to select the same character.

>>12400456
Yeah think so too.

>>12400484
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Why didn't he just say that in plain English?

>>12400491
Because programmer autism

>>12400447
It was a choice. You still can't do mirror matches to this day in the entire MOBA genre for the same exact reason. Forcing players to pick different characters for co-op or PVP gameplay leads to more interesting gameplay scenarios, strategy, and emergent gameplay.
Allowing mirror matches in fighting games is only allowed because it was pretty obvious early on that the audience were autists who only spammed one character for 10,000 hours. Completely eliminates any grand strategy for character selection where you could theoretically pick your opponents main fighter who you weren't even good at to force him out of his comfort zone.

>>12400450
>>12400458
>youtube shilling

Fuck off, also no, most games took 8 months to 2 years to develop.

>>12400447
It was a design choice so two players would not get confused as to which character on screen is them. Having two of the same characters would be potentially confusing. This was like a 1975 game so palette swaps did not exist yet either, those were invented with Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat.

Low quality thread from a clinically retarded OP

>>12400469
>mogs
There goes your credibility, and I like 7. The NES games are better in overall playability.

>>12400456
This. I think OP is just stupid and thought that this patch fixed jank.

Also a lot of the programming back then was extremely low level and used a lot of clever tricks to make the most of a system. In many such cases it could be considered jank today but brilliant back then.

>>12400447
Deadlines, frequent design decision updates, poor debugging tools, etc.

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>patch removes an intended feature and adds bugs of its own
OP confirmed retard

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>>12400471

>>12400597
I love when people rage and follow it up with a complete lie lol. no dumb-dumb, “most” games were shovelware pushed to market fast as possible.

>>12400447
>>12400932
>>patch removes an intended feature and adds bugs of its own
yet another OP buckbroken by anons. add me to the screenshot.

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>>12401245
> “most” games were shovelware pushed to market fast as possible.

>>12400469
I’m as contrarian as anyone but this is a retarded opinion

>>12401197
Yeah but that could mean "fix a bug that lets you play as the same character" or "play as same character" or "fix bugs that happen if you play the same character".

>>12400469
That's pretty impressive for a Megaman game. But c'mon, you're making it seem like a masterpiece even though I enjoyed 7 front to back.

>>12400447
Game studios were tiny in comparison to current standards and were constantly struggling with lack of time, documentation and tools.
But as others have already mentioned - your hack is not dealing with any form of lol poor programming and instead is just a sloppy game mechanic change.

>>12401836
No, if you were the target audience you'd know what it's about.

They still are. its just a different kind of stupid since people don't know how to compress files so you end up with 200GB unoptimized games

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>>12401924
>Game studios were tiny in comparison to current standards and were constantly struggling with lack of time, documentation and tools.
It was better than having a team of 1000 workers spending a decade on a game, just for it to get cancelled for a tax write-off randomly.

>>12400447
Why are young children programed so stupidly?
Every feature you don't like isn't "jank programming", "bad design", or "artificial difficulty". Most are just you being retarded.

>>12401331
there are over 1000 famicom games and at least 100 of them are just pachinko and mahjong.

>>12400447
So the "problem" is being unable to pick the same character? Literally every sidescrolling beat-em-up I can think of does that, even ones that already have P2 palettes like Streets of Rage 2.

>>12402276
these kids don't ever stop to think about why something might be a certain way. same with when they're faced with an obstacle. it's always straight to making a retarded internet post when they could've just read the fucking manual or tried pressing buttons.

>>12402216
i'm pretty sure that is an emulation bug and that it was fixed fairly recently.

>>12404167
It's a "feature" to make arcades less noisy. I think the fixed bug had to do with the music not playing at all.

>>12400469
Has anybody ever decompiled MM7's code and compared it to that of other Capcom SNES platformers? I suspect the only way they got it out the door in 3 months playing as well as it does was by taking the engine code from something like X2 or Demon's Crest and overwriting what they needed.

If MM7 took 3 months to develop in 1991-92 that would have been very impressive considering how difficult the SNES could be to develop for, but by 1995 I suspect that Capcom Japan had established a robust development environment with lots of software libraries available and that pumping out a retail-quality cartridge in 3 months was very doable, though probably not encouraged for QA reasons.

>>12400447
Golden Axe is a bad game? We get it, you're gay.

>>12400686
>>12401584
>>12401843
I played Anniversary Collection on PS2 back when it was new, and yes, 7 > the rest, even though I obviously don't hate 1-6. I do hate 8 though.

>>12404775
The only good console Golden Axe is 3.

>>12404137
you haven't played either of those enough to have a worthwhile opinion on them

Ahhh

>>12400447
>old games
I'll let you in on a little secret, Anon.
ALL games are programmed stupidly. Not just old games. All of them. New and old alike.

>>12409676
you’re a faggot

>>12400469
Mega man games were shat out on a conveyor belt. Most of them don't even have a credited director because they were just made via a template.

>>12400491
>Same Character Patch

>>12404775
Beat em ups suck

>>12417363
Whine about your mother elsewhere

Bitch you do better

>>12414254
ok YouTube shill