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I'm going to start playing all the Dragon Quest games.
I'm going to do all original versions.
Should I go for the original Famicom 1 to 4, or the NES official localizations?
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The NES version of 1 is a straight improvement over the FC version. The NES versions of 2 and 3 also are better balanced for a first time play compared to FC and have new intros. 4 is basically identical except for censoring. There are romhacks that let you encensor 2, 3 and 4, but they also change the translation in the case of 2 and 3 so going with the original US versions is probably best in case you need to refer to a guide.
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>>12402251
>Should I go for the original Famicom 1 to 4, or the NES official localizations?
If you can read japanese play the famicom versions, if you cant but are interested in seeing the original originals then idk >>12402259 says theres a english patch somewhere.
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>>12402251
>I'm going to do all original versions.
give up the ''i am Le authentic retro gamer'' act you poser
playing the objectively worst version of x game does not make you cool, it's retardation
1,2 and 3: play the SNES version
4,5 and 6: play the NDS version (use party chat hack for 4)
7: the only retro DQ it's original version (PSX) is the best one
8: play the 3DS version
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>>12402334
I plan to eventually do the remakes as well.
I want to be able to fully enjoy what changes they did in each version and notice the differences for myself.
Also this is the retro board, you shouldn't be advocating for people to ignore the original games.
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>>12402338
>I plan to eventually do the remakes as well.
no you won't, DQ games are too long and slow with barely any replay value, you'll get burned easily and give up on your second playthrough
just play the best version first then try the other inferior versions next to satisfy your interest
>you shouldn't be advocating for people to ignore the original games.
aha, sure thing buddy, because /vr/ always reccomends playing the Apple II version of Prince of Persia or the MS-DOS version of Doom....
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>>12402251
I would just do the NES versions, you can always play the the Japanese remakes later.
Play original 1-6, then a couple of years later if you want play the Super Famicom versions of 1-3, and the 4-6 remakes on DS. There's a party chat mod for DQ4 now as well. Some might argue the PlayStation versions of 4 and 5, but I don't really know if it's worth it. It feels much cleaner this way especially since they never bothered with a remake of 6.
>>12402334
Neck yourself homo.
>8: play the 3DS version
Retards always out themselves with the dumbest takes. It would be a less retarded /vr/ post to just say wait for all of the modern remakes.
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>>12402357
>>12402363no
and the 3DS version 8 has extra content and tons of Qol improvements
>b-b-but muh soundtrack!!!
and you can use the ''orchestral OST'' patch you faggot
>b-b-but muh graphics!!!
imagine being a graphic whore on /vr/, the 3DS version looks perfectly fine especially on emulator
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I was doing this and still need finish my playthrough of DQ 3 from last April. I had just got to Baramos castle after the final shit cave, but took a break when I got really busy.
Honestly original 3 is so amazing, especially for it's time. You'll understand the hype especially playing then in order.
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>>12402419
>another midwit fag filtered by the quirky dialogue with the accents
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>>12402450
I replied to your meme picture and told you it filtered me, why are you still seething? I'm glad you enjoy the localizer approved translation.
I'm glad they toned it down over the years after the DS games, I'm hopeful the remakes will be closer to 8 or 11 at most.
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>>12402425
the irony of calling someone else a midwit while demanding someone smarter than you translate an original story but can you say it again in a silly voice daddy like its a bedtime story is not lost on me.
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>>12402495
Spot the /v/ poster everyone!
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>>12402502
>t. the same faggots seethign and whining in the Working Designs hate thread
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>>12402505
I wouldn't say it's most of /vr/, it's just the loud minority from the influx of zoomers. I notice a lot of the new threads talking about older games in the series are still started about the OG versions.
Even lately with 4-6 there have been more threads about DQ4 ps1 and DQ5 ps2.
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>sperging out attempting to derail a thread because some people on /vr/ prefer original versions
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>>12402251
>I'm going to start playing all the Dragon Quest games.
why
>I'm going to do all original versions.
why
>Should I go for the original Famicom 1 to 4, or the NES official localizations?
do you even know japanese?
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I played NES dq3 and has a fucking blast, nearly shat myself at the end when something incredible happens.
Older RPGs also don't have loading times/long attack animations, so everything is fast as fuck, or as fast as you can be menuing.
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>>12402371
>you can use the ''orchestral OST'' patch
You really shouldn't, not just because a handheld sucks for sound output in general but also because Sugiyama intentionally used off-key compositions that don't loop right out of spite (and it was even worse in 7 for 3DS).
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>>12402570
Maybe you're still a newfag. I have pictures from years ago of anons playing the ps1 version but they're on my other drive, so I can't post them right now.
Like I said recently you're probably right, but we literally just a few threads with people talking about dq5 ps2 like the past month or so.
There was someone trying to work on DQ4 but I haven't checked on it for a while.
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>>12402642
nta
Disliking DQ music was/still is incredibly common. It only started to become less common when Sugiyama became known as a controversial person, but you'd never see DQ posted in like a best OST thread or anything.
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>>12402642
i don't give a shit if he himself prticipated in the rape of Nanchink, his boring generic uncreative music sucks ass and it all sounds the same, if you heard 3 or 4 tracks by him then you already heard everything he has to offer
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>>12402648
>Disliking DQ music was/still is incredibly common
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>>12402663
haha don't you guys all totally hate Sugiyama?
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>>12402670
All of them, hence the series was probably the first video game to get an orchestrated soundtrack.
Personally, I really like the music from DQ2.
https://youtu.be/ewx7rfcXNU0?si=Ajfy3lQOnv95ydUV
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>>12402687
It's not opera, or even remotely similar to opera. Nor is it "pretentious".
https://youtu.be/qbXNaZJoNdI?si=i1h5CKmU_ZB0MeO5
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>>12402681
>A pretty common joke on /vr/ was to play 11 muted?
Never specified /vr/ retard. I said 'here' as in 'this site', but you're some kind of retarded newfag who can't accept reality and needs to die on an equally retarded hill about a composer who worked on games you've likely never even played.
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>>12402701
This site, as in THIS site, the one where different boards have their own cultures? THIS site???
"Here" means this board, not this site. Maybe you and some fags on /LGBT/ hated the music in DQ in played the game muted because you're upset that the composer thinks the supposed war crimes from Japan in WW2 are exaggerated for political effect (they are), but that doesn't make the music bad. Go fuck yourself.
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>>12402709
the way you keep bringing up ''Le war crimes'' makes me think you're just a classic case of /v/ontraian faggot pretending to be a fan of anything with controversy surrounding it out of spite for the ''redditors''
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>>12402709
>the one where different boards have their own cultures?
/vr/'s culture has primarily been people incensed at /v/, who come here solely to talk about franchises that don't get much traction on /v/, and then declare the board superior. That's why this board's decline is the one most proportionate to /v/ as well, btw.
So yes, its culture would be relevant to /v/ as well. Though I have seen similar distaste for DQ music here, and this very cultlike mentality where people spam wojacks and insist that everyone who disagrees with them is an evildoer is something that only came about once Sugiyama became "based" or whatever.
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>>12402719
>they would struggle to point out which DQ it's from
This is one of the most famous tracks in the series. That's like saying that Mario fans wouldn't know which game the SMW theme is from, or that Sonic fans wouldn't know which game the Chemical Plant theme is from.
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>>12402726
>the music is universally recognized for being fantastic
>literally the only people who hate it are redditors who hate Japan and always cry about "muh war crimes" despite all of that stuff being resolved over 50 years ago
>one of those faggots comes into this thread
You can pretend to be someone else if you want to, but we still know it's (you)
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>>12402732
>>the music is universally recognized for being fantastic
By who? Where?
>>literally the only people who hate it are redditors who hate Japan and always cry about "muh war crimes" despite all of that stuff being resolved over 50 years ago
You're the one who keeps bringing up war crimes though.
Why do you have a persecution complex?
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>>12402738
I'm immune to your jewish mind games
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>>12402730
>This is one of the most famous tracks in the series.
no it's not, you know well less than 10% of the self proclaimed DQ fans touch DQ2
and even those that played it (i did) will easily confuse it with another DQ game
>Mario and Sonic
nigger please, fans of these games can recognize the music for every stage level, now go ahead and ask DQ fags if they can remember what music playing in the first dungeon (the cave) of DQ5 (the most overrated reddit game in the series) no one will get it right
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>>12402732
>the music is universally recognized for being fantastic
lol
>the only people who hate it are redditors who hate Japan
lmao
and from >>12402743 looks like i was right, you are a /vpol/ refugee defending this dead hack Maestro wannabe to ''own'' Le trannies or whatever, you don't like his shit music sincerely you're forcing yourself and it's not healthy for you anon
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>>12402757
Go back to Israel
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You guys know you don't have to keep arguing with the retards who exposed themselves dozens of posts ago right?
Is anyone else going through the series right now? I'm going to finally playthrough 6 for the first time soon, I only really played a bit of the DS when it came out.
It seemed really interesting not sure why it became the black sheep. 7 and 9 seemed seemed like the ones way more brutal to me.
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>>12402784
You realize it was just a poor attempt to troll right?
I think I'll end up really liking it as long as the vocations are good. I love job systems especially DQ3 and FF5, just never got around to finishing this one. It's weird how it feels like 6 barely got referenced that much until DQ Heroes. Overseas it makes sense since I think the DS version felt extremely delayed.
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>>12402810
Did you defeat Baranos yet, anon?
You'll notice that the first half and second half of DQ6 have very different designs. Even if you disagree, you will understand why some people have polarized opinions about the game.
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>>12402825
I've played 3 many times. The only games I didn't really complete were 6, 9 and 10 I think. Not counting the million side games.
I'm not sure I got to that point then, mostly I remember the 2 different worlds thing. I always thought 2 and 7 had some of the most brutal beginnings, which is interesting they're so popular in Japan. I don't remember 6's being anything but average for the series.
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>>12402849
I don't remember if I ever got that far then, or how far that is into the game. I'm going to start a playthrough of the snes version in a week or so when I have time.
What do you guys think of the side games? The only /vr/ ones I got into were the first couple Monsters and Torneko games.
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>>12402854
Torneko 1 is the first Mystery Dungeon game but frankly it's barebones
the sequel is kino one of the best PSX rpg's
Monsters 1 & 2 are Pokemon clones aimed for children
Caravan Hearts is the most underrated DQ game, faggots with shit taste like >>12402842 dislike it tho
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>>12402969
Remind me where I even mentioned Caravan Hearts? The games I mentioned were the only ones I played.
I also never played Torneko 3, but 2 was amazing. Not sure why this thread attracted so many retards.
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The absolute state of this board.
You know this is what they mean by making remakes to "update the games to modern standards", it means making the games retarded for these retards.
I don't even know why I'm still checking this board, force of habit I suppose, at this point I'll just have to wait 5-10 years for old games to stop being trendy so you morons go away and I'll finally be left alone with actual old games enjoyers.
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>>12405752
Obviously it's on purpose, you can say similar about every board. When 4chan went down last year, we got confirmation that this place is a kike Honeypot. Still fun to browse once in a while, but not nearly as good as it once was.
>Inb4 4chan was never good
Go tell it on a mountain, faggot
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>>12409913
Yep. Now that I'm level 5 I can at least kill them, but their Gira spell still does lots of damage. At least I can cast it too.
It's a pretty comfy game, really crazy to think this IS the first proper "JRPG".
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>>12402371
>the 3DS version looks perfectly fine especially on emulator
It really doesn't. In a game that's all about atmosphere and presentation, you shouldn't play the version with dramatically worse versions of both.
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>>12402251
Don't play the famishit versions. Also, don't start with the first two games, no matter how hardcore you consider yourself, start with V then VI. After that you can do VII or the I, II, III. Don't play any modern slop versions, Super Famicom for 1, 2, 3, 5, 6. PS for 7. 8 onwards are slop so don't bother with them.
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>>12402675
Very late reply but just to give context to this anon's post. XI is one of Sugiyama's worst works and I think most people agree, probably because it was made when he was already way too old and probably with help from others. To make matters worse, there's little in the way of variety, you listen to the same few songs in a game that's absurdly long. To finish it off, DQXI released with only the MIDI soundtrack originally, and without the orchestra it sounds even worse. It's not one place, many people complain about the XI OST and there are mods to replace it with other DQ music. As to Sugiyama himself though, an iconic composer and saying DQ in general has bad music is a shitpost.
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>OP here, started Dragon Quest 1 famicom version
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>>12410395
>In a game that's all about atmosphere and presentation
DQ poser detected
this sin't a horror game or walking sim to be ''all about atmosphere''
DQ main selling points is the diverse places you visit NPC's you talk to an ofc the gameplay
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>>12402967
Is DQ the Kingdom Hearts of JRPGs? You have to navigate through this flowchart of authoritative remakes, and since each game has multiple remakes, it’s a guessing game as to which one’s approved. Who knew that the NES—excuse me, the Famicom—versions were banned. Why do we hate them? Oh, because retro games are now “for zoomers”?
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I'll play the SFC remake later, I'll go through the originals first. Why is that bad?
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>>12410775
Not those anons but the NES version of the first game has better graphics since sprites rotate instead of facing one direction only, and you have a battery save instead of passwords. It's straight up a better game than the Japanese version.
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>>12402334
>1,2 and 3: play the SNES version
Anyone who's only played the updated version of DQ1 has not played DQ1. The entire "gameplay" of DQ1 is number crunching to optimize and minimize your grinding, with a LOT of heavy decision making about what will save you the most time.
Increasing the exp is "Quality of Life" in the same sense that save states are. You still see the whole game, but you miss out on a core part of the gameplay.
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>>12410842
Ah yeah I knew about the sprite rotation thing. I'm actually enjoying the static walking hero sprite, it's archaic but it also keeps reminding me that I'm playing the very first, original DQ game.
I'm thinking maybe for 2 I'll play the NES version, is it too different from the Famicom like DQ1?
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>>12411692
>I'm thinking maybe for 2 I'll play the NES version
If you can read japanese there is no reason to play the english versions. 3 has a cool intro they added for the NES version thats not present on the famicom but you can just watch 10 seconds of it on youtube then play the japanese version.
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>>12411692
The first is the only one where I think the western release is just an outright upgrade. What this anon said about the cool intro:
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is also the case for the western DQ2. But just like DQ3, you can see the intro on youtube.
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>>12414537
NTA but I did this with Etrian Odyssey. Started playing them in 2020 starting with the first and only wrapped up 5 this year. I play them in small chunks sporadically. I even thought "Next Stage" would be out by the time I was done.
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Welp, now that I'm almost lvl 8 and having acquired a dou no tsurugi and a kusari katabira, and having consumed a dragon scale, I'm ready to tackle the first cave. Well, other than the one with Loto's tomb.
I'm going to have to resort to hand drawing maps, wasn't expecting the torch gimmick! Reminded me of SMB3's world 8 map
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>>12417959
>isn't 3 one of the absolute must play
I don't think any DQ is a must.
DQ games aren't that much distinct from each other, you won't get such a unique experience from playing DQ3 that it becomes a must.
It is a good game to start, it has most of the mechanisms that define the series nailed down, but you're not missing much if you start with another title.
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>>12418058
>you won't get such a unique experience from playing DQ3 that it becomes a must.
I feel like this is a plebish opinion.
No DQ isn't like FF where each game completely replaces the gameplay with a new set of gimmicks and comes up with a new different world, but the way the games are structured and play out is often very different, and you can get a lot out of one game that you won't from another.
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>>12414537
Yeah I would finish one and then play other stuff until I was specifically in the mood for the next dragon warrior. Though they all took me longer than a week besides maybe the first one. I think I would have gotten burnt out if I did it faster but that's just me.
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