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This is a toad with cat ears, not a dinosaur with cat ears.
It's name should be Venutoad
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I never made the connection with dinosaurs even with "saur" in the name
I never thought of it as a frog at all
I thought it was a turtle for a while even though it didn't make sense, because of squirtle
I never knew what to make of that thing
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>>12407910
Sugimori has referred to bulbasaur as a frog. He describes the idea was to make the starters small animals a japanese kid would be familiar picking up: lizards, turtles and frogs
"-saur" was made up by the english localizers, the japanese names of the line mean "strange seed", "strange plant" and "strange flower" respectively
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>>12408196
get him a body bag!
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>>12409261
I always found it weird how they actually bother to translate pokemon names like that across different languages. It just seems like it would really muddle the branding, like there are people out there who think Charizard is called Dracaufeu and Nintendo is just okay with that? I'd figure they try to keep the names the same between similar languages at least.
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>>12409636
there are people out there who think Lizardon is called Charizard lmao
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>>12407973
>meh toad
Does he and game freak know they actually are?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareiasauria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diictodon
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>>12407649
It's an unspecified fantastic creature with flower growing on it's back.
Funfact - the entire "it's a frog/toad" thing was canonized in LGPE where they needed to figure out a way for Venusaur to move as fast as player's character.
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>>12409636
Look up the localization process of Red/Blue on Cutting Room Floor someday. You'll see a bunch names they were looking for was to evoke the Japanese name, or they might be rejected because they couldn't pass legal. For instance, Dugtrio they wanted to keep the Japanese name Digda, but felt it was too similar sounding to Dig-Dug and could get them into trouble.
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>>12412375
>pokemon used to be just "monsters"
A good portion of the original Pokedex was just "animals but cooler"
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>>12412706
A lot of Gen I Pokemon were based on common tropes in fantasy rpgs. Hell, there's a power plant that plays it pretty straight and is full of electric rats, mimics, beholders, ogres and a literal thunderbird at the end of it.
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Bases
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>>12408063
Reptile-like Mammal can hopped?
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>>12415538
Wonder extinct animal that birds grass starter base off?
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>>12416596
These new starters are hilarious. The first one looks simply generic as shit, like some food mascot more than a Pokemon even. And the second and third literally look like things mashed up from Littlest Pet Shop/My Little Pony/Neopets
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>>12407786
My favorite japanese pokemon name anecdote is when I was a kid I always called magmar "boobie" because he had a pair of tits on his head. Flash forward 20 years to when I first played pokemon in japanese and learned that magmars japanese name was booba this whole time. Kid me always knew.
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>>12417191
Are you sure?
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>>12417405
Why the fuck would a gecko be water? The two things geckos are most associated with are trees, so grass. Being nocturnal, so dark. Hell, some are terrestrial so ground, some are rock dwelling so rock. I could even see fire based on some having a "fire personality" but I have no idea what the idea is to make a gecko Pokemon and go to water
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>>12417525
Because as stupid as it is, Japan doesn't differentiate between lizards and salamanders and salamanders are fire spirits to them despite being water creatures. And even offer it works out from a Western perspective because as a lizard it's presented as essentially a baby dragon, who eventually becomes a dragon, and western dragons like Charizard is based on are always associated with fire
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>>12417547
Man I was disappointed to learn that salamanders aren't actually fireproof. I swear I saw it as a kid in some documentary stuff like Animal Planet being presented as absolute fact and believed it all my life
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>>12417547
>salamanders are fire spirits to them despite being water creatures
That was common in pretty much every culture.
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>>12416596
>Not a sheep, a horse or an ox for the fire starter.
It's over.
Game Freak has fallen.
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>>12418007
>Because leopard geckos' tails are full of water, moron
Leopard geckos are also only found in arid dessert environments in the middle east and are purely terrestrial lacking adhesive toepads so literally fire or ground makes more sense than water
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>>12418920
basically fakemons but official
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>>12417479
"Unfathomable flower" is probably the closest English equivalent. Fushigi literally means "can't be understood". It can be used in Japanese either as a poetic way to say something's mysterious beyond human understanding, or just something so bizarre it defies comprehension.
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