>>12409858
steam buyers get exactly what they deserve

Oh, they released it? Yeah, looks like they did.
Still have the original copy, 50GB modded, so it's not like they removed the older version. I'll give it a shot unmodded and relay my opinion.

>>12409863
People who bought it on Steam anytime between it's release on July 4, 2013 to yesterday get to keep the old version and get the new version for free.

Also the GOG version is likely the same version since it dropped the same day this updated version did.

>>12409858
I picked it up on Switch years ago and I thought it was incredibly boring. I was playing DQ11 at the time and thought I would give FF a chance. Boring as hell.

>>12409868
>Still have the original copy, 50GB modded, so it's not like they removed the older version. I'll give it a shot unmodded and relay my opinion.
Original version will just be renamed to "Final Fantasy VII (2013)" if you owned it before this update dropped. I had the original installed and it remained installed, was just renamed to that in my library.

>>12409871
That's nice, I'll be sure to shit on how soulless DQ is in the next DQ thread.

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>>12409873
Yes, that is what I'm seeing.

>>12409876
I'm not a DQ fanboy. 11 is literally the only one I've played. FF7 was boring as fuck in comparison.

If you don't just have a Playstation, the best way to play it(aside from emulation) is, imo, the switch port, purely because you can use the NSO snes controller. Supremely comfy.

>>12409871
>DQ11
>FF7
Those two games came out 20 years apart.

>>12409876
I like both FF and DQ could you please not shit up the next DQ thread? For me?

>>12409884
They're both 4 niggas standing in a line games

>>12409885
I'm kidding, I won't. I like DQ/DW too. I just don't see why people go into threads about one thing to say it's actually not that great and shill another.
Gonna do some hypers (lines of speed) and start this shit! Just finished installing.

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>>12409893
Opening is heavily pixelated at 4k res. You can interpret that as being non-bastardized and faithful to the original if you want.

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>>12409905
There's no controller mapping setting in the config menu, I guess I have to use steam settings to switch X and O. Also that menu font looks, off?

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>>12409912
No NPC mouths. I haven't seen any framerate hiccups yet.

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>>12409919
Looks just fine, runs smooth as fuck with the 3x boost on. I'll post again if I see anything weird but this seems like the best unmodded version I've played.

>>12409876
Just let the contrarian has its opinion. Ffvii already stood the barrage of contrarianism, it'll be fine.

https://x.com/tsunamods/status/2026393480755286329
How often does a company hire a mod team?

>>12409928
From the Steam reviews it seems like battles are running at 2x the speed and with desynced audio, is that not the case for you?
>>12409970
>hire us pls
That's kinda pathetic.

>>12409996
The battles are running fine. If they're running faster then that's a good thing. I've noticed that SFX don't play when in 3x speed boost when another SFX is playing. That's different from PSX, PC, PC 2013 but a very small detail. They probably do it so sounds don't overlap with 3x on.

>>12410020
>The battles are running fine
Apparently they already patched it, there's a pinned thread on the Steam forums about it

>>12409905
>>12409912
>>12409919
>>12409928
What was the new launcher like? Can you configure your controls there at least?

>>12409996
>>12410048
Battles were originally 15FPS, they were upgraded to 30FPS (Could they not do 60?). There is also an item to make the game run at 3X speed.

Apparently though when this update/new version first dropped the battles were running at double speed, not just 30FPS. That appears to have been fixed pretty quickly, though it still baffles me how it was released in that state. It's not people only people with a certain configuration or GPU or something had the issue, everyone was experiencing it. How did that slip past testing?

>>12410108
DEI hires making everything previous generations loved worse

>>12409858
>and framerate is broken making the game run in basically fast-forward during battles
This was literally fixed before you posted.

>>12409970
Not very often, it's more common in the indie scene.

Are the mods broken now?

>>12409882
you're right, ffvii would be so much better with 90% more padding, an awful OST, dull generic storyline and literal faggot party members.

>it didnt replace the old steam version
thank fucking god. If it made my 7th heaven mods and save files junk I wouldve had an epic fucking rager. FUCK steam and its mandatory update bullshit among many other things. The only reason I didnt pirate the copy in the first place is because 7th heaven wont work with pirated copies because the devs are white knight bootlicker retards.

>>12409863
Obsessed.

>>12409858
it's a nearly 30 year old game, just pirate it

>>12410423
>The only reason I didnt pirate the copy in the first place is because 7th heaven wont work with pirated copies because the devs are white knight bootlicker retards.
How can they even tell? AFAIK the game has no DRM, and it's even on GOG now.

You'd have to be fucking nuts to pay for something on GOG

>>12410423
>People in 2025 are still white-knighting for anti-piracy for a mod of a game released in 2013 that is a re-release of a 1997 game
https://github.com/julianxhokaxhiu/FFNx/discussions/789

Damn, what is wrong with people like this? I legitimately own it yet seeing this pisses me off. The last thing people want is MORE DRM added to games, especially shoddy DRM put in a fan-mod. I would even trust Denuvo over this, since corporations still have to abide by laws, fans would do whatever the fuck they want. Anybody remember that Sonic fangame that was loaded with malware as a form of DRM?

Are idiots like this just that big of a white knight for multi-billion dollar corporations that attempted to get on any cash train possible (Remember when S-E announced they wanted to do NFTs AFTER the fad was dying and everyone hated them?) or are they under the massive misconception that if they act like they don't support piracy, they won't be sued? If so, go ask the Switch emulator devs how well that went, a corporation could not give two shits if you are "anti-piracy" or not. If your fan project has not been sued, it's either because they don't care, or they haven't gotten around to it, being assholes about anti-piracy is not saving your ass, just as long as you aren't advertising you are intentionally pro-piracy.

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WHOOOOOOORE

>>12410454
no idea how but I tried everything I could before giving up and buying the steam version

>>12410471
because tifa wanted to talk about her incompatible memories with cloud about the reactor incident (johnny is also from nibelheim), not to have sex.

>>12410474
Just Googling it shows that there are cracked versions, but even though I own it on Steam and other platforms I would not trust a fan mod that ADDS drm personally, that's just asking for some idiot on the team to take matters into their own hands and go way too far with "protecting" the game. These homebrew drms always cross lines not even corporations would cross with their drm.

I wonder how these idiots are going to deal with the GoG version. Are they just going to admit they can't really provide any sort of legitimacy check for the GoG version and stop with this drm nonsense, are they going to refuse to support it because they can't put any anti-piracy crap in it despite clearly both GoG and S-E being ok with it not having drm, or are they going to do something stupid like demand you log into your GoG account on their mod manager to confirm you legitimately own it, I would completely not be surprised if they did the latter. Sad part is, if they tried that I know idiots would defend it instead of rightfully call them out and blacklist them. Even the Sonic fanboys had the guts to blacklist that dev who tried to drm his fangame with malware level bullshit.

>>12410480
it was both actually

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>>12410103
Just woke up, here's the launcher and options panel. Nada. I'll use Steam's controller configurator and make a preset for this game only. I'm so used to Circle (or B) as the confirm button that I kept stumbling around in menus.

>>12410519
Odd. At least it looks cleaner and simpler than the 2013 one, but holy shit is it lacking in options. Not even a controller config? Is there one in the game? How does the game handle controller glyphs?

>>12410525
>not even a controller config? Is there one in the game?
That's why I looked. Nope, the controller config that's normally there isn't see >>12409912 . Can be easily fixed, in steam at least, maybe non-PCs are locked-in to the default setting, bummer for them if so.

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>>12410531
Yep, picrel worked.

Previous saves from the 2013 version DO work if you just copy paste them over, despite what squenix said.

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>>12410519
>>12410103
Turns out I'm an idiot. If you hit Esc there's a menu just like all their modern ports and it has a controller config.

>>12409869
people who downloaded the ps1 version get to keep that too

>>12410589
I have the PSX discs which I bought 3x before '05. I have the pirated PSX ROM. I have the '98 PC Win95 version. I have the 2013 PC version. And I now have this version.
The files are on your PC even with Steam, you have the game. You can copy-paste them somewhere else if you're worried about Steam wiping your folder.

>>12410594
you paid for the same game at least 6 separate times, congratulations

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>>12410597
I paid 3x of the original because discs get worn and I'm a degenerate who doesn't take care of non-car things. I paid for the 2013 steam version. Pirated the PSX rom and the orig PC version. Got this new one for free.
Yeah, I've paid for the game 4x. That's why I don't care about also pirating it. I really like this game.

>>12410601
Oh, and the 2013 Steam version, I paid for that with steambux I got from playing CS:GO (now CS2). I got a $200 random drop one time 10 years ago. So that was technically free, too.

>>12410587
Were the backgrounds always that blurry? Or did they try to filter them? Can it be turned off?

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>>12410617
The game runs 320x240 on PSX, I'm playing 3840x2160 so it's expected. They also lost the original art files for backgrounds 20+ years ago. That pic also has the escape menu filter over it, here's without.
Everyone complained when they put a blur filter on FFVIII Remaster's field screen backgrounds, so I guess they gave people what they asked for.

>>12410625
Well apparently it has been filtered, just looked it up. I can't tell a difference, probably because I play at such a ridiculous resolution. It runs very smoothly so far.

>>12410625
You must be legally fucking blind if you didn't notice that they'd added a blur filter to the backgrounds for this release. It's exactly the same as what they did to FF8. I don't think the AI upscaled backgrounds from something like Moguri Mod look perfect, but they're FAR better than a shitty blur filter. Squenix are just too fucking cheap and lazy to do something similar.

>>12409863
Both versions? Steam users just keep winning!

>>12410653
>You must be legally fucking blind if you didn't notice that they'd added a blur filter to the backgrounds for this release.
I guarantee you found out from some youtuber and are pretending to have noticed naturally. I've been playing upscales for 10 years, I definitely didn't notice.

>>12410669
Not everyone is a retard mate.

>>12410679
Sure sure, you're sooo smart.
Didn't you just advocate for AI upscales? Yes.

>>12410469
Reminds me of people who make homebrew for Nintendo systems.
>don't you even dare to use my bootleg software built with a pirated sdk to run pirated games you filthy pirate

what's with zoomers and aversion to downloading roms of old games and running them on an emulator, for free?

>>12410687
What did you expect from an ff7 thread, who else is a game like this going to attract

>>12410687
I'm the guy posting screenshots, I'm from the '80s. I have the pirated rom on various PCs and phones. I originally bought it in '99. I got this version free and am just checking it out for a fresh reason to replay and to see if there are any differences people might want to know about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>12410698
so what are the differences from an emulated PS version, pray tell

>>12410698
You paid more than the original price of the game for AI generated background images

>>12410703
I just found out it released an hour before I went to sleep last night. I haven't seen any so far other than: the controller setup moving to a new screen, it runs really well with no screen tearing, it runs well at 4k, it has a built-in 3x speed boost, they fixed the weird glitch where in the 2013 version pressing directions would be input twice some times and you'd overshoot. It runs much smoother than emulated, and yes I know how to experiment with emulator settings.
Tbh I don't expect to find more differences but I'm going to play more tonight. I don't speedrun so anything relating to that I will not find.
Again, got this for free. From what I've seen it's likely the best non-modded version. It's quick, it's smooth, and getting the 3x speed boost was the original reason I started modding anyway.

>>12410704
>AI generated background images
Swing and a miss. It's the PSX backgrounds with a bilinear filter because it allows resolutions about 10x the original. AI upscales are fanmade and free.

>>12410679
Nah, just you. Go away.

I think we need to look at what it really means to be a fan of something. Like if someone can appreciate a game and understand it on a deep mechanical level that's a fan. If someone has a house full of final fantasy merchandise and owns 15 copies of ff7 regardless of quality that's cattle that's been infected by a corporate brain parasite. If you're personality is just liking a brand completely arbitrarily that doesn't seem like being a fan to me, and I think you'll find that the excuses someone gives for being a ff7 megafan stink pretty bad.

>>12410741
Look buddy, I'm a US Navy Seal with over 300 confirmed kills and those PSX discs shatter the moment I touch them.

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I'm probably gonna play the re-release, but I'll wait a little more to see if all the issues have been ironed out.
Also, What's the best way to experience FF6 ? Should i get the pixel remaster on steam or should i emulate the original on ares?

>>12410813
>What's the best way to experience FF6 ?
Imagine a world where the final fantasy series never existed. Now imagine if a weird 2d sprite game called Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster came out in 2022. How popular do you think it would be, would it sell 10 copies? 20? Why would they make a game like this just compare it to Red Dead Redemption 2.

Now imagine the reality where the final fantasy series has existed since 1987 and the 6th entry in that series is being released on the modern console the Super Famicom. I saw a trailer for this game and the graphics look incredible. Fast forward 5, 10, 20, 30, years and people still talk about this game and how its possibly the greatest game on the console and one of the greatest RPGs of all time.

Which version would you rather "experience"?

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>>12411392
I think I'm picking up what you're putting down

>>12410813
If you are Aryan, play original or emulate it.

> t. Aryan whom finished this game on ZSNES a long time ago.

>>12410813
Gba version with music patch

>>12411392
16-bit version.
Every translation (including the original) sucks for different reasons. Don't pick the game based on that. You can patch in a translation if you want but it's not going to change your life.

>>12410601
>discs get worn
stopped reading here

Glad I grabbed the og version when the other /vr/ anon warned everyone.

>>12410665
this but unironically

>>12410669
the character model obviously clashes with the background. the other anon was right, your eyes aint working.

>>12411948
What? 25 years ago, when I was 13, I didn't really give a shit and ended up scratching a lot of my discs. Then one time my "GF" in middle school borrowed disc 2 only for her dad to get deployed to another continent, if you just need to know. So I bought the greatest hits version again at the base exchange for $20. Why is this important again?

>>12411954
No shit. I'm playing in 4k and the 3D models scale where background does not. You can choose 640x480.

>>12409858
>Game now takes more than twice as much space as before
That's because they added multiple other languages, the old version only supported English. And all of the text is image files, I don't know why.

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>>12410669
>I guarantee you found out from some youtuber
I guarantee that you are a retarded cunt if you didn't immediately notice that the backgrounds are blurry fucking soup. It has nothing to do with playing at 4K, you stupid faggot. I assume the suggestion other people get their information from Jewtube is projection and you're actually some zoomer LARPer playing the game for the first time, because anyone remotely familiar with FF7 would know the pixellated look the backgrounds have without some godawful fucking blur filter applied to them.

>>12410684
Yeah, I remember how insane Wii homebrew developers were about being anti-piracy, they took it farther than Nintendo.

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>But if we don't put DRM in our mod for a 30 year old DRM-free game, people in China might bootleg it, just like they bootleg every other fucking game anyway!
Oh the horror. This is seriously the reason the 7th Heaven Mod has DRM? Because China might create bootlegs of it?

Also, this sounds like it will be used as an excuse to not support the GoG version considering it was in reply to someone asking about GoG version support. Fuck these guys. Multi-billion dollar corporations don't see this as an issue worth kneecapping their games over but they think their fanmod is high and mighty enough to warrant it? They aren't even the original devs of the mod, they took over updating the original version of 7th heaven.

>>12410687
What's with poorfags who try to act superior because they are too poor to actually afford anything? The game is under five fucking dollars on GoG right now, that's less than your shitty Big Mac lunch. If you don't want to pay even that then fine, but acting like you are smarter for pirating a game when I have been doing that before you was even a sperm just makes you look like a retard coping about being poor.

>>12412068
>unlike Steam
Isn't something like over half of Steam's library DRM-free? Anyway putting DRM on mods is dumb.

>>12412089
I don't think it's anywhere near half, but there are a large amount of DRM-free games on Steam, though on GoG it's a requirement that EVERY game on there have no DRM. Regardless, it's a very poor excuse to put DRM on their mod.

>>12409858
What the fuck?

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>>12410601
fixed your image

>>12412290
?

>>12409858
Who cares fag, it's 2026, you don't NEED to play ports of old games

>>12409858
The 2013 release is still in your library. It wasn't updated, this is just the Windows Store/PS4/Switch version put on Steam.

On what planet does someone use steam to purchase and play this game when there has been psx emulation for nearly 30 years?

The only time I can see it being worth buying a port of this game is if all you own is an XBONE or ps4 and want to play it. But whether Mac windows Linux emulating looks better and has more options like custom fast forward speed, “cheats” if you need to cheat, upscaling to retina (2k) or 4K,.. And it’s FREE to play the best game of all time.

Also the game is perfect as is so no there is no need for a tranny-lation. Although a mod to have wind and water materia would have been neat it probably would fuck up the game too much. But it just seems asinine to buy this on steam.

>retina
lol
lmao even

>>12412443
Someone mad they can’t afford a superior Mac?

So many people butthurt they can't afford what is pocket change for most normal people.

>>12412026
Sounds like you're mad. Really mad. The funny thing is that I probably played the game years before you did. On psx on CRT. Sad.
It has everything to do with playing at 4k. The backgrounds have to be stretched as resolution increases can only change the 3D stuff. And it's just fine. It doesn't bother me one bit.

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>>12412409

I just went back to replay this and started the PS4 version that I forgot I bought a while back. There was an annoying filter over a lot of things, the audio felt like it was peaking often, and on top of that it hitched and lagged frequently. It's insane!

>>12412547
Then play it at 320×240 with disc load times and some mild screen tearing. I like having options. Idk about every release ever but some FF ports only apply the blur 720 and above. No idea about this one, don't care, it looks fine.

>You're poor if you don't buy every single re-release!
Cattle behavior

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>>12412573
This version was free.

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Another difference, the 2013 port let you type names on keyboard even when using a controller - this doesn't.
Also the 3x boost doesn't work in the train ride segments and probably more scenes in the future. Manageable so far.

>>12412603
Also the steam screenshot key doesn't work for some reason so I've been print-screening and pasting into paint. There's probably a fix or maybe that's just for me, it's really easy to take good shots with the Steam "\" trigger I'd like to have it for yjod.

>>12412612
Some games have the default Steam keybind bound to something else and it fucks it up, my current keyboard has an F13 key so I use that but there was a time i had it changed to F11 because of some Japanese game port

>>12412068
This has to be some troll response for people with no programming knowledge. They can't be so stupid to think that if a chinese pirate is willing to make money out of this they can't simply replace
public bool IsGamePirated()
{
return false;
}
in 7th-Heaven/AppUI/Classes/GameConverter.cs

>>12409996
>hire us pls
That's kinda pathetic.

that's not pathetic. If SE wasn't so mis-managed as it is, they would have hired them long time ago. They're the only one keeping up for free one of the major diamonds SE has, that let them continue to exist.

>>12414230
Hi Tsunamods, you will never be Japanese OR get a job with Square.

>>12414230
no one cares about some shitty mods lol

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>>12413453
Somehow I doubt it's as easy as literally setting IsGamePirated()=false, if it was then there wouldn't be people complaining left and right about it's aggressive DRM if it was that easy to remove. And yes, I know people are idiots, but there is no way in fuck that absolutely nobody would realize you can just change a single value in the code and recompile it to remove the DRM check for all this time if it was that easy.

I love how they try to claim that they would not be able to exist if they didn't put DRM in their mod (Never mind every other game mod that does not have DRM not having an issue with "existing") and try to act like the good guys, and of course because it's a niche group, everyone kisses their ass over their sob story.

(Also, they claim that it now works with the GoG version. Did they give up already on implementing DRM since there is no way to tell a legit from a pirated GoG game or did they actually implement some batshit insane intrusive DRM like I mentioned to try to verify your GoG account or something just as overstepping?)

>>12414234
Does Tsuna even speak english? There's still some french in their most recent version of SYW mod for the 2013 PC version.

>>12409912
>Also that menu font looks, off?
It's not the font, it's a fucking lookin' good filter. Maybe XBR?

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I have none of these problems.

>>12416634
You also have disc loads and have to play in 320x240 resolution. I played that way several times but it's honestly not ideal. I'm sorry.

>>12410423
>7th heaven mods

These motherfuckers made it so you cannot use it on pirated versions. Lame ass cocksuckers.

>>12416832
did you only read the first half of the post you quoted?

Why is the fact that they completely fucked up this release not bigger news? Bad backgrounds, bugs, non-working mods... Now most people are stuck on it and won't be able to play the previous version either since it got erased. Is this seriously the treatment one of the most legendary games of all time gets?

>kick tifa and aerith off team
>add in red 13 and barett

ah yeah we got this. Sephiroth is no match for the boys.

Is the (2013) still the best way to play on pc? I really don't like the blurry backgrounds of the new release.

>>12409882
FF7's plot is infinitely more interesting than any DQ game's. Gameplay wise, you're comparing a game from 2017 to a game from 1997.

>>12417462
What bugs? I haven't seen any. In fact this version runs very smoothly.
I still have the previous version with mods. What are you on about?

>>12417786
>FF7's plot is infinitely more interesting than any DQ game's
True, there's no denying that.

>Gameplay wise, you're comparing
Dragon Quest vs FF. DQ wins because it's far more focused on making sure the game part is actually compelling. JRPGs don't normally just 'advance' so that everything later on is superior to what came before, but DQ actually builds on what came before instead of just throwing the previous game's systems away every time.

DID
THEY
FIX
THE
FLASHBACK
MUSIC
BEING
FUCKED
UP?!?!??!?!?!
i know the switch port is the only one to fix it

>>12414240
>Somehow I doubt it's as easy as literally setting IsGamePirated()=false,
It is. Take a look at that file (7th-Heaven/AppUI/Classes/GameConverter.cs), that function (IsGamePirated()) has a very strict check for files they consider to be "pirated". But you can replace everything inside it with return false; which is the actual return value when the game is considered "not pirated". For most people, compiling is the issue, so they're stuck using the pre-compiled packages with the function intact.

>>12417693
I prefer the original 1998 PC release so that I can enjoy the XG soundtrack, but if you don't have autism then the 2013 release is fine.

>>12417670
hey dude this is retro gaming (/vr/). its spelled AERIS

also to OP, what part of the dialogue would have even needed to be "censored" in the first place? there was nothing wrong with the original psx release

Do the GOG versions of 7 and 8 differ from the old PC release?

>>12417693
best way to play on PC (whether Mac, Windows or Linux) is Duckstation and the original PSX iso's.

>>12409858
I just emulate games from the 6 generation backwards desu, with rare exceptions like Max Payne where the PC version is better.

>>12418485
I had max Payne for pc, one of the few PC games I could get to run (couldn't ever figure out Duke 3d or Shadow Warrior) but then our family computer broke and we didnt get a new one until christmas.

in that time I remember trying to rent Max Payne for ps2 and it was insane how unplayable it was with dual analogs

>>12418468
How so? What am i losing by playing the pc release?

>>12417858
Nah, no DQ is as good as FFV or X. Those are the peaks of JRPG combat.

>>12419375
I prefer the linear character development of FF4 and DQ8.

>>12416667
>play in 320x240 resolution
How is that an issue if I'm playing the game on a CRT as intended?

>>12411953
>he thinks that was ironic