>>12409897
you do no they made shmups after
guwange right

>>12409897
Okay. So do you have a particular question or are you just blogfagging? Not your personal blog, btw.

>>12409897
never heard of it, looks cool

very cool setup. I like the feel of a joystick but I perform way better on keyboard. Try Battle Garegga sometime it's a classic.

>>12409957
>Battle Garegga
Yes, because looking up guides on how to properly play a shmup em up is so fun.

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>screenshot reverse image searches to reddit
>the reddit post is somehow much higher quality than OP
>retards replying to it unironically
Wowzers, is this the part where OP skin walks as someone actually playing a video game and gets angry at the attention he gets?

>>12409960
that's really not necessary

>>12409972
The great irony of this video is that digibro opens by saying he can't even 1cc the games on easy and then spends the rest of his life playing Zelda games and rpgs

only trannies play these games desu

why is digibro so bad at them then

everyone knows westerns can't get WRs in shmups so why even bother?

>>12409957
>>12409957
thanks, I used to play keyboard for platformers but shmup movement is more "fun" on stick imo

it's most a boring simplistic shit genre. being on rails, there are many lulls in gameplay with nothing happening, bordering on movie game territory

>>12409991
you must be thinking of jrpgs!

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Oh yeah. It's shmup em up time.

Shmups are the most boring, samey genre to ever exist. Even more than fighting games. They both existed to spam Japanese arcades and scam people out of money.

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>>12409995
Why not reference the furry shooter people actually play, theres a shmup for every fetish dude

>>12409998
Overcoming obstacles is boring, for me it's reading 70 hours of dialogue boxes superficially misrepresenting Jung

>>12410002
Maybe because that one isn't retro you repulsive illiterate retard

>>12410004
>overcoming obstacles is boring
This but unironically. Grinding out runs like it's homework is for autists, nobody sane would enjoy that garbage.

>>12409980
That's true. Chads prefer racing games which are more rewarding and engaging.

>>12410005
>that one isn't retro
And yet sharty could spend the entire last thread making hundreds of posts abour a 5 year old Korean rhythm game to derail the thread while mods did nothing, curious. Surely this retro throwback furry shmup is against the rules.

>hold down button
>move joystick
Is there a more braindead genre?

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>>12410008
just play Shippu Mahou Daisakusen! or Twinkle Star Sprites you troon, you goober, you flaming f@ggot!

>>12410007
>the best, challenging action packed games full of mind bending puzzles and mechnical complexity are boring and INSANE!
agreed they are "insane" (in the good sense) but definitely not boring
you must've been dropped on your head as a baby and educated by tiktok, monkeys and blue-haired jarpigs

>>12410019
>move hitbox around screen at pre-determined patterns
>mechanical complexity
LOL

>>12410010
I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say and you sound insane

>>12410015
beat em ups are the true knuckle-dragger genre

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Tips for OP and others. Try to master some stages while making others "passable"
For survival, I call a stage “mastered” if I can no-miss, no-bomb it consistently. That said, I rarely go that far. I’m usually fine with “passable” which means good enough that, combined with the rest of my run, it leads to a 1CC. It’s mostly resource planning: how many lives or bombs can I spend here and still survive what’s next? Hit that quota and move on.

For scoring, “mastered” would mean near world-record level. Realistically, I aim for noticeable gains over my old average. Example: In Deathsmiles, with Casper in the Forest, top replays hit about 45m. I averaged 20m, grinded it to 30m, called it good, and shifted focus. I rotate stages, boost each a bit, then stitch it into a full run and watch the PB climb: 241m to 250m to 277m. Same goes for Mushihimesama and Futari (my bread and butter games)

And yeah, even when I’m not playing, I’m “training.” Mentally. I recall stages, movements and patters in my mind and form a "memory castle" of sorts. So I can train while not playing and not watching replays. Totally counts. You really need to be in touch with your meditative and spiritual side to get good at shmups and I mean deep introspection and honesty, something that surprises me when seeing how good T3 Kamui is at Garegga yet he is completely self-deceived in some aspects of his life.

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Something I've noticed is that generally shmups whole heartedly embrace Japanese culture and frequently reference Japanese philosophy and aesthetics, whereas jrpgs constantly deconstruct and shit on Japanese society while referencing western mythology. Why is that? I think it's no coincidence that genshiken constantly references shmups and fighting games, but scarcely ever references jrpgs outside of them as existing as characters for whores to cosplay as.
https://youtu.be/EzptQtXOPJg

>>12410035
>memory castle imagining stages and patterns when not playing to train
Holy shit I do that too

>>12410043


I don't think shmup devs have actual "writers" so they are more rural and nationalist in their mindset, whereas jrpg writers are more cosmopolitan, having received literary training which usually involves a ton of Western Canon, look at Haruki Murakami with his love of jazz and western shite etc

>>12410025
You're sort of right but this is what I like about the genre. The core gameplay being extremely simple gets you into a flow state

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LISTEN UP /vr/
After playing shmups exclusively for over 8 weeks, and watching dozens of hours of twitch streams and finally getting my first ever Batsugun 1CC I have decided to aura-farm my skills by playing Dodonpachi seriously, become a giga shmupChad and mog everyone including the top japanese superplay leaders.

Plus I have a confession -- every other genre, every NON-SHMUP, is pic related tier aka retarded piss easy in comparison!

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>>12410073
All these "superplayers" are going to be shitting their pants soon.

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>>12409897
It took you years to figure out how to flip your screen vertical??? Kek

>>12410101
you also have to configure the software/system to match it perfectly not so simple

>>12409972
>Trixie the Golden Witch

>>12409897
>Finally have a proper shmup setup in my retro collection
Cool. Post a pic of it.

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Rate my TATE setup

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>>12410210

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anon: shmups are boring I don't get it
shmups: https://streamable.com/m3lcoh

>>12410210
>>12410218
amazing lel

how does one get into shmups anyway? where to start?

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>>12410307

>>12410052
>I don't think shmup devs have actual "writers"
https://youtu.be/GVOZai8cFRI
Seems pretty good to me

>>12410043
The appeal of RPG's to Japan includes the western fantasy aesthetic, that's probably it.
Fighting games universally tended to be a working man's genre, due to being centered on the arcades and easier to access than buying a console.
I don't see any connection beyond that, the only "Japanese" shmup I know is Touhou, which you can call me secondary or tourist over, but it's aggressively Japanese on purpose while the rest of space ships.

Also who's the girl next to Reimu

>>12410339
Many "space ship" themed shmups are about some eastern Buddhist cycle of death and rebirth and stoic resilience in the face of overwhelming odds, often sacrificing oneself in the process. I'm not really sure why you felt the need to comment if you don't know, but you play rpgs so I guess you're retarded or something.

i am trans btw if that matters

>>12410346
Congrats on the transition, lilith.

>>12410359
Ironically, the digibro video posted most greatly reflects you, as this individual is a brony who's spent too much time on 4chan that is more enthusiast about making superficial analysis on video games rather than actually playing them. I feel a lot of what's left on 4chan is like digibro.

What I find funny about the unironic seethe over jrpgs is that it comes from a /vg/ discord where autists were trying to lord it over others with score and 1ccs and the people they were trying to beat, or shit on, were off playing Arc the Lad and didn't give a shit.
They were unironically upset that other shmup players weren't exclusively playing shmups.

>>12410368
What in the hell are you even talking about

Not a single person here is responsible for flooding every single board with 20 "what am I in for" rpg threads per minute and it's funny to me that the guy who's been shitting up the thread with concern trolling outted themselves as an rpg tard immediately. Any time someone is shitting up a thread if you bring up rpgs they'll take immediate offense to it. They truly want every board to be nothing but rpgs.

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>>12409897
>Cat spider boss
>jap players milking
don't use scoring strats

>western longplay
those are all TAS cheat runs

for cat spider, For the Cat Spider boss in Guwange, stay low center and micro dodge the spreads. Destroy side turrets quickly to reduce pressure. Use shikigami to control popcorn enemies and manage bullet density. During the fast phase, stream bullets horizontally instead of panic dodging. Bomb early if cornered you're not scoring anyways. just find a normal 1cc or no death run replay and check that out

>>12410309
it's trash, I Must say.

>>12410368
>>12410391
only ricky was unironically seething at jarpigs, the rest of us were just having a laugh

>>12410363
>schizo nonsense rambling after showcasing it can't converse like a human
aight, hon

>>12410368
>>12410391
You type like you're gonna burn down an anime studio

>>12410407
I don't have a problem with rpgs, I just think it's obvious there's someone spamming the board like an absolute retard and there's a seething moron that has to go into every thread and scream about trannies and "memoslop" whenever it's not an rpg. And regardless of my personal feelings it's the dumbest genre you can play, I really DO truly believe that, and it has zero gatekeeping as a result so it attracts the biggest retards. And that's not funny to me.

>>12410416
How is talking about a video posted in the thread "schizo nonsense"? Digibro is a person who feels he does not need to play video games because he already beat them in his mind, and writes video essays on how he totally vibes with them and they fit into his hipster auteur life style. He's the quintessential 4chan poster, because, well, he's literally a 4chan poster. It's like Clayton making FF8 threads around the clock and dodging every human being on earth in Karnovs.

>>12410449
>>12410460
no one asked for this incoherent rant
stay on topic

what are you playing?

>>12410464
I'm playing ketsui

Is it actually easier to get a WR in "easier" shmups or does the skill ceiling eventually equalize

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>>12410472
Beating a DDP 800 million tier World Record is going to take maybe 6-10 years of consistent daily practice until your asshole and elbows get blown out from sitting down so much, while a WR in an easy shmup won't be anything like that

>>12410478
>Beating a DDP 800 million tier World Record is going to take maybe 6-10 years of consistent daily practice
Dude I don't think this is true at all, you got 19 year olds breaking records and shit

>>12410481
Depends on optimization of the game and player potential.
Hituji was at 740million in 2014, then 750 mill in 2015, and broke 800million in 2020,, note that he started playing DDP in early 2000s so already had decades of experience

>>12410490
>hituji
damn I miss going on twitch and being able to see hituji or tes do insane runs daily

>>12410501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_K0piWN7jw
CAVE Shmupmania 2020 streaming event; starts at 1:15:30.

>>12409897
This is definitely AI posting

>>12410719
Look at how many people fell for it. /vr/ is full of retarded normalfags now, not even Facebook is this dumb

>OP makes an active thread
>shmupfags SEETHE
Curious?

Reminder this seething tranny posted his top 100 games on /v/ and it was full of RPG shit

>>12410779
What shmups do you play, post your 1ccs. You've been in these threads foaming at the mouth for months, even I'm starting to recognize you now.

>>12410802
I don't. I only play good games.

>>12410805
You're definitely not making me dislike the person you're complaining about, and isnt openly admitting you're in here just to complain about shmups completely justifying everything they've said? This is so fucking weird dude. I'm gunna be honest, I've been seeing you shit up a lot of threads so I've done some light estalking and here's what I found out about you
1)You're the person who makes Alice threads on /v/
2)You post in black souls generals
3)You post in touhou threads but have never beaten a touhou game
4)You samefag extremely maliciously and are what I refer to as a "board killer", or one of the schizophrenic individuals who moves onto boards and just sits there for 18 hours at a time bumping the worst shitposting threads off page 10 to ensure content is as low possible

Seeing shit like this really makes me wonder if 4chan is going to be around much longer.

>>12409897
>I want to shmup
Oh boy, I hope you have a TurboGrafx 16.

>>12409960
>autist fails at videogame before he even begins playing

I'm trying to refine my routing for stage 6 in DoDonPachi with A-L and this is what I got. If there's something I'm doing wrong here, let me know so I can improve upon it.
https://streamable.com/otikak

>>12410959
seems like you have a general idea of what's going on but haven't routed it completely and since you're relying on reading patterns and reacting you're doing some unnecessary risks, A-L is a fast ship but you don't have to zip around like crazy all the time, you almost got clipped quite a few times

did you watch Pan's videos on safely clearing DDP? He uses a different ship but the ideas are still valid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGib_1e6gaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXoxIXS-jTU

>>12411012
The problem with his videos is that he doesn't seem to go for the bees. Though I'm not playing for score, It'd still be neat to route around getting all 13 bees each stage. And yeah, I have some close calls a bunch of times. Some changes to my movement to avoid unnecessary risks should be the way to go.

>>12410816
>Seeing shit like this really makes me wonder if 4chan is going to be around much longer
Hopefully not. The site has no preventive measures for this kind of malicious shitposting, and people eventually just leave. Slow boards like /3/ and /ic/ are completely unusable at this point because it takes only one permanently online schizo to drive them into the ground.

>>12411036
Why would you care about bees when not scoring?

>>12412191
Because eventually I do want to improve my scores and having a route around getting all 13 bees would serve as a baseline for how I would improve my score. At that point, I'd just have to worry about chaining and not bombing.

>>12412195
Right but routing for score is going to be utterly different than your survival route with bee pick ups. Since chaining is so strict

Why the FUCK does the PCuck version of Ikaruga not have a restart stage option

>>12413282
good question
it's so annoying

I remember going to arcades weekly when I was a teen and never seeing any bullet hells, or if I did see them they made absolutely no impression on me, but I do recall playing Raiden 1 and 2, Aero Fighters and Strikers 1945 and getting btfo

Reminder it's pronounced tate mode as in (ro)tate.

>>12410478
>>12410490
Dumb take. Most of the WR practice time is spent on executing unoptimal routes and researching better ones, or simply not playing. Teenagers are the most likely to have the time and energy to practice the best known route and execute it better if they cared enough. Bullet reading and streaming is not some ultra difficult skill that takes years to practice.

>>12410816
>4
The latest meme is making a post, deleting it, and posting the same thing again to bump from page 10. I personally don't think you should be able to delete your own posts in the first place.

>>12410008
Real Chads play the mobile game arcade machines like Doodle Jump and Fruit Ninja.

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Believing you can beat the game is half the battle. Its the laws of attraction, baby. Can't let the shmup beat you down, it's a test of the human spirit. Will you accept being cattle?

>he ran from the other thread

>>12410052
I guarantee you don't know what Metal Black, Progear or most shmups are about.

>>12413289
>try GC version
>it has on-the-spot restart
>menu instantly pops up instead of having a 1 second animation
>you can pick the fucking stage segment to practice and even watch a demonstration for it
wait, they just sold a pc version with LESS features and somehow that became the template for every later port kek

>>12413949
they're about shooting, dodging and collecting items/gems for score

how to beat 3rd boss in tatsujin ou
safe spot isnt' so sfafe

>>12415253
We are not talking about mechanics.

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https://www.youtube.com/live/HxhFnXIVgnk
This actually looks kind of good

>>12415956
Not sure why that surprises you

>>12415980
The cotton games are not consistent in quality

>That new Raiden Fighters collection stuck at 60 FPS
Aaannnd dropped.

>>12416017
The Cotton games are consistent, and quality.

>>12416210
>stuck at
The issue is its overclocked at 60hz. It was never meant to run that way. It's fucking odd, how did moss fuck up this badly

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>>12415421
Lord have mercy on you if you're actually playing that for real. But anyway https://vxtwitter.com/Dirtride2005Men/status/1931674514762469654

He describes how to hug the left wall before going for the safe spot to correct the screen scroll or something

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I just 1cc'd ketsui. Holy fuck my heart feels like it's gunna burst out of my chest

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>>12417276
welcome to shmups lad
gg what's next?
also for future reference might be a good idea to capture replays of your achieves

>>12417309
>gg what's next
Dunno garegga is the only one left of the big 3 meme games but I don't want to play games like that back to back
>also for future reference might be a good idea to capture replays of your achieves
Already do, it's a clear on the m2 version. I'll upload it later.

>>12417318
holy based

https://youtu.be/xbpj6oCYapQ
Replay, stage 5 was majorly fucked up.

>>12417361
how long did that take to get?

>>12417374
About 30 hours

>>12409897
>(Cave is the best shmup developer according to hardcore Japanese players)
lol

>>12417796
He is actually right. For me Cave games are a hit and miss but you can't deny that they have biggest library of quality shmups with deep scoring systems.

>>12417796
True. Real shmup players play Psikyo games.

Radirgy Swag is coming out on steam soon. Has anyone played this on Switch? I never played a radirgy game before.

If you're playing shmups for score or at a high level why wouldn't you play a top tier shmup like Garegga, Ikaruga, Dodonpachi, Daioujou, Batrider, Rayforce, Tatsujin Ou, Gradius 3, etc

Why score cryptic shmups know one nose about

>>12418997
Nope but everyone who talks about those games is a troon or troon-adjacent or obese with a cringe deviantArt, not sure why

>>12419002
Well you've convinced me to go play the games

>>12419017
Make sure to take your mental and hormonal pills before playing

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>>12418998
>Scoring Gradius 3 or Tatsujin Ou

>>12409897
play dodonpachi or much better play slap fight/gradius before playing guwange, you need to understand the fundamentals before entering into the meat grind of guwange.

If you don't want to do that simply know how to absorb bullets with the spirit and always try to speedkill bosses at your skill level. the nuances of the spirit movement, the mix of spirit and normal shot, movement capacity and more will become a second nature over time.

>>12410008
real chads play both genres, shmups and racing games, they are related because they are route oriented correct spacing games while having a lot of arcade ties by racing games being one of the first types of videogames with shmups.

>>12410025
the thing is that the patterns aren't predetermined by rng, position rng, game state, shot types, power usage and more, they have logical rules of moving and shooting but every pattern has his own unique way to dodge depending of the way it's designed and the game movement nuances like movement speed, special hitbox states, movement mechanics and more mixed with the weapon mechanics.

aka the game has a ton of fun complexity and you are just baiting.

>>12419028
physical resistance is a virtue, tatsujin ou breaks a lot of people but the feeling of getting onto the zone for that amount of time is uncomparable.

>>12418998
I score shmups I find fun and interesting to replay, and shmups I can 1cc consistently, in theory. Scoring adds a ton of extra risk and difficulty already.

>>12419071
I really like tatsujin ou but wish it was around 40minutes instead of 55 or an hour per loop.

>SPS Ketsui world record
>no video at all
>Juju Kenobi Donpachi world record
>no handcam video at all
curious???? its my firm belief that japs need to provide handcam replays and westoid whites need to provide HANDCAM replays
NO EXCEPTIONS FOR WORLD RECORDS!!!!!!!! NONE!

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>get esp ra.de. m2 port
>there's like a pet loli raising minigame as an added bonus
what the fuck is going on

>>12419261
M2 will just add things including entire new games to rereleases at random. Most effort I've seen from them outside of Haunted Castle Revisited was hiding an entirely new game inside of 3D After Burner II that uses the same assets but has entirely new levels/mechanics/story.

>>12410073
Quake duels is the hardest thing known to man

and soldier vs scout in tf2

The more I play Ikaruga the more mind boggling its superplays are. The precision needed to pull off some of these high score strats is insane. It's no longer a puzzle game but a fucking RHYTHM GAME

>>12419661
Ikaruga is very fair game tho. Not overly punishing like many Cave games, and no stupid amount of RnG. You just have to memorize everything.

If you have to memorize a game to beat it, it's bad game design.

>>12419932
if playing a game more makes you better at it, that's the worst game design

>>12409950
https://youtu.be/rbts2qTrbAg?si=sjpBM45qxkNdGHJj

Guh-waaaaang

>>12410210
Lmfao is that the Samsung Odyssey

>>12410307
Raptor call of the shadows
Highway Hunter
Major Stryker
XataX
Stargunner
Tyrian 2000
Zone 66
Jets'n'Guns

>>12410346
>stoic resilience in the face of overwhelming odds, often sacrificing oneself in the process.
Ikaruga for sure

>>12419516
Sc:bw and sc2 are harder than qw and q3a/ql/cpma/reflex, as someone who's competed in all

>>12420087
>Tyrian
>jets n guns
lol and lmao

>>12420098
agreed for bw, disagree for sc2

You know a genre is top notch when idiots feel the need to come in and beg for your approval all day like some tsundere anime girl.

>>12418998
Scoring garegga is fun, ddp games are chaining memo autism but I get the appeal, but who would willingly play tatsujin out, let alone for score? Does that game even have a scoring system or is it just milking tick points?

>>12418998
Gradius 3 is not a particularly good game for scoring, it's just very hard to clear. There are lesser known indie games with deeper and more fun scoring mechanics.

>>12419189
>they don't need proof because they're """trusted"""
lol. the long-time players are the most likely to cheat. even touhou has the same problem. shmupfags are super behind the times

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Jesus dude.

I'm starting to think the city connection port of mushi isn't good. Like there's safe spots that work when I emulate in that don't work in the steam version. It's minimal but really odd.

>>12421082
this really is just 2hu normal mode but it looks and runs like shit

>>12421604
Fortunately 2hu doesn't have bullets this fast.

it annoys me that 2hu is the only game where i can get responsive inputs AND no screen tearing

>>12421639
I've never had screen tearing in any shmup ever.