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>>12416216
Jeffry was Sega's mascot

>>12416216
To SoJ Sonic was just another Alex Kidd, just some garbage to toss aside with the next generation.

>>12416216
I can smell the autism seeping from this post. Would you rather have a couple of minor Sonic titles with one being a compilation of good games or would you want a major Sonic title that's gonna suck? Had X-treme or Saturn or whatever the hell they were working on saw the light of day, you'd most likely be on here asking why they released such a shitty Sonic game.

>>12416245
NTA, but i rather have xtreme over ports and a whatever racing game. Even if it did end up sucking, it would be an interesting concept to fuck around with, like Chaotix.

But really SoA shouldn't have been fags and just let the devs do the back up plan of releasing it as a PC exclusive like Schoolhouse. Sonic had a great run on computers during that era and it likely would have sold well. Better than flushing all the money and work down the shitter with nothing to show, not even recycling the soundtrack for a later game.

>>12416216
>I just don't understand it.
Of the zoomers many catch phrases and slang terms, 3 come to mind:
>HUUUH?
>BUUUUUUHHHHH?
>WHUUUUUH?
What 3 defining phrases, a generation begging for answers, a generation always posing questions, and even finding solutions and resolutions to be utterly bewildering and unsatisfactory. They do not want answers, to them an answer is death. All answers must be soundly denied, no matter how true and definitive they are. They bring no answers of their own. The closest thing to satisfaction is a 4 hour long meandering youtube essay where they can walk away with infinite trivia but no solid grasp on the reality explored.

The other defining trait of the generation being conformism. They seek to conform to systems, routine and discover patterns to explain the (often explained) mysteries of the world writ large. Why is the sky blue? To them it has nothing to do with atmospheric scattering. It's blue because sometimes it's grey and at night, black, so it's only fair for it to be blue sometimes. That's why it's blue.

So when Nintendo has a Mario game...and Sonic is considered the competitor to Mario, and the consoles are competitors to each other...and yet there's no Sonic game on the Sega Saturn?

It completely breaks their systems based mind. "What could have happened!" As if they haven't heard all the reasons and stories so far. All they know is Nintendo is red, Mario is red. Sega is blue, Sonic is blue. They are the ying to each others yang, opposites of the color wheel. Why are the opposites? Because that's their place, in the mind of a Zoomer.

>>12416643
is this an ironic medspost? haven't seen a shitpost this abstract in a while

>>12416216
>Wow big surprise it's now one of the most legendary iconic games of all time.
That's why it sold worse than any other Mario game prior to it and failed to sell the hardware, aside from North America.

>>12416216
i'm going to go out on a limb and say that sega never understood what the fuck they were doing. the mega drive was a fluke and sonic's success was sheer luck.

>>12416653
>Using launch sales to discredit a claim about modern reception.

Also

>sold worse than any other Mario game prior to it

Patently false.

>>12416216
Japs are retarded.

>>12416216
Because Tranny Clown was going to be the next big thing!

>>12416216
Sega are kinda huge fuckups

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>>12416216
They didn't. Sonic Team was burned out from making nothing but Sonic (remember, that's not what they were hired for) and wanted to make other kinds of games. Sega's American devs at STI worked on Sonic 2 and 3 so the deal was that Sonic Team could take a break to make other games while the team from STI makes the new Sonic game by themselves.

The problem was that the team from STI was so incompetent that they couldn't even get a prototype running on the Saturn. Seriously, go read the interviews it's fucking hilarious, they literally begged Sega to let them make it for the PC instead.

Anyway after a few delays the game was cancelled because it was clear that the STI team was incapable of doing anything. Sonic Team came back to make the new game and started developing a cool game for the Saturn. Unfortunately the Americans screwed up the launch of the Saturn so badly that Sega had to make a new console, so the game switched over to Dreamcast during development. The engine that they made for the Saturn version was recycled as a 3D hub area in Sonic Jam (collection of Sonic 1-3K from the Mega Drive, which was probably mostly aimed at the Japanese market), and the final product released in 1998 on the Dreamcast as Sonic Adventure.

Pic related is some screens from the Saturn build of the game. I hope that it gets leaked someday because I want to play with it.

>>12416216
Sega just had sonic fatigue, they wanted their new console to be represented with a new mascot. Alexx Kidd for the master system, sonic for the mega drive/genesis, and nights for the Saturn.

>>12417576
Sega should have bitch slapped ST and forced to work on one or hire actual Japanese talent instead of leaving it to the inexperienced and badly equipped STI

>>12416643
How hard did you get buckbroken to write this seethe? The post is never about zoomers but this board shits it up because asking a sincere question must mean you're just a zoom zoom!!!

>>12416216
Sonic Team is as ADHD as Sonic himself and were bored with Sonic during the Saturn era. That left Sonic to Sega of America who shat the bed with Sonic X-Treme

>>12416281
Sonic R is a better game than Sonic X-Treme

>>12417576
It's hilarious when the STI devs whine about Yuji Naka being racist against gaijin for scrapping most of their work on Sonic 2 when in reality Sonic Team was saddled with a bunch of newb americans who had no idea what they were doing and pumped out total garbage

>>12416643
I'm an old man who lived through it and I can guarantee a lot of us who were playing videogames at the time were confused about how sega just ignored sonic on the saturn. and how they replaced him with a fucking clown for some ungodly reason

>>12417576
>screens from the Saturn build of the game
Those are clearly artistic renders with no relation to the actual game engine

sonic games were never good and you can only force a meme so long

>>12417675
You played both and can confirm this?

>>12417680
>against gaijin
you aren't japanese

>>12417948
Non sequitur, using that term in English can even express anti-Japanese sentiment, like saying goyim

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>>12416216
They didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5HS4Of1QlM

>>12416785
>moving the goalposts
You can use it for established series, dumbo numbo.

>Patently false.

>Super Mario 64 sold 11 million, most of that from the United States.
>Super Mario Bros. (1985) – 40.24 million
>Super Mario Land (1989) – 18.14 million
>Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) – 17.28 million
>Super Mario World (1990) – 20.61 million
>New Super Mario Bros. (2006) – 30.80 million
>New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009) – 29.90 million

It’s clear that 2D Mario is the preference, even when they faced a colder market. Mario 64 isn't a Mario game–it's a 3D game featuring Mario that looked childish and lame.

>>12418379
>Completely skips over both Mario 2’s and Super Mario Land 2

Laughable.

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>>12418290
I really wish this came out, it looked jank, sure... but also SOVL.

>>12418290
the music was really good for what it was

>>12416653
>aside from North America
I wonder where else Sonic was more popular in than in Japan, and coincidentally the same place where Saturn suffered

>>12417721
Shhh...let the retard have his fun.

>>12417721
They probably could have got it to look like that if they made it a RPG with pre-rendered backgrounds. What a missed opportunity.