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Is it worth buying this classic for $20? Dudes on ebay are asking for $125 for the original thing and I'm like hall naw I'll just get the re-release if I must
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Nope
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>>12418338
Both are scam.
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dl the rom for free
>waah i wanna transfer to pokemon rainbow sigma & delta
it's a good game, i guess it's worth $20
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>>12418338
are you like 8 years old? What a bizarre question.
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The main advantage is that people are actually playing this in 2026, so if you want the actual social experience of trading Pokemon and live somewhere that it's feasible, then by all means.
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>>12418338
Putting the rom on a fba flashcard is a great compromise imo
Or I guess you could find some Chinese repro easily, but be careful with the quality, I had to give up on Harmony of Dissonance at some point because of a shit cheap cartridge that just had a chance to crash when I saved, corrupting the save file in the process
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>>12418358
he's brown
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>>12418360
>The main advantage is that people are actually playing this in 2026
Fire Red is one of the most played pokemon games of all time, what the fuck do you mean people weren't playing beforehand?
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>>12418370
Exactly what I said. There's no real scenario where you'll randomly find someone else to trade with in 2026 if you're playing with a rom.
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>>12418376
retroarch has online link cable support
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>>12418383
normal humans aren't generally capable of configuring RetroArch
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>>12418376
>>12418383
I've seen people trading and battling on Fire Red running on a phone since late 2010s.
You're about as likely to encounter someone with Fire Red on their phone as finding someone who carries switch around with Fire red in it.
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>>12418385
Literally any version of MyBoy has online support.
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>>12418391
I think you're overestimating normalfags anon.
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>>12418341
FPBP
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>>12418386
Who said anything about your phone? Use your big boy computer and find people playing it somewhere online
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I find it hard to believe that real people give a single fuck about "legit" trading in current year for a series that has been completely distilled to nuts and bits
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>>12418397
I have Pokemon in HOME that are over 18 years old, imported from my actual GBA games as a kid. It's kind of cool imo
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>>12418393
Literally in the options menu.
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>>12418442
most normies have iPhone nowadays. IPhone are designed to try their hardest to keep you out of the options menu by being out of the box accessible. It's safe to say many don't even consider using an options menu be default.
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It's a retarded expenditure. Emulate if you are not a worthless consumerist cattle.
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>>12418442
you're living in a bubble
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>>12418494
I had an iPhone and had no trouble going to the options menu.
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>>12418494
>>12418527
Is this the new "you can't expect me to drag rom to the emulator! That's too hard!"?
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if you don't understand why going out to meet other people to trade pokemon on a long forgotten game version is a bad idea, you're probably the reason why going out to meet other people to trade pokemon on a long forgotten game version is a bad idea.
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>>12418562
>>12418569
You both are on 4chan. Theres a good chance you both know how to use technology. You both underestimate how retarded the average person is with these kinds of things
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>>12418673
>You both are on 4chan. Theres a good chance you both know how to use technology
Being on 4chan hasn't been a indication of that for at least a decade.
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>>12418664
Why is it a bad idea? I'm pretty sure you could get a union room going on the Switch version at any given convention for the next few months.
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surely the dedicated board for this trash franchise would be a better place to ask
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>>12418338
The question is more if being able to shovel gen I and gen II mons into Home is worth $20 for you. I was initially under the impression that these are unmodified ROM's being sold instead of just thrown on NSO, which made me think it's not worth $20 given how many glitches are in FRLG. But people found out that the game now doesn't let you name your Pokemon assfaggot and whatnot, so censorship was added, which makes me wonder if there were other changes like patching out the roaming IV glitch.

I've personally emulated FRLG to death over the past decade, so even if I had a Switch I'd pass on this game, especially if it's completely unchanged from 22 years ago.
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>>12418673
Brother, how is going to a menu for Internet support going to be any different than whatever is required to do it on the switch besides the fact that one is "nintendo approved"?
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>>12418846
They give you the event tickets for the Johto birds and Deoxys after beating the game. Not even a notification, they're just dumped right into the bag.
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>>12418365
If he was brown he wouldn't be asking about spending 20 bucks on something he can easily emulate for fucking free, this is 100 a white american consoomer question.
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>>12418418
How does that work? It's feasible to bring mons from gba to switch without any tricks?
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>>>/trash/
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>>12418365
Every white person I've met is a retarded consoomer. You worship retards.
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>>12420219
Yep. Not directly, but you transfer from GBA to the DS games, then to Pokemon Go which was the 3DS's Pokemon storage app(no longer available for purchase but still accessible if you got it before the 3DS store shut down). From Go it can be transferred to Home. So 4 big steps, but within those steps it allows you other transfers across generations, but only moving upwards and not backwards.
So Gen 3-Gen 4-Gen-5, which can go to gen 6 or skip to 7, or bypass those two completely and go to 8 onward on Home. Home allows anything to transfer across 8-9 with some stipulations, most obviously gen 9 exclusive Pokemon can't go to 8;.
The Gen 1/2 games on the 3DS virtual console can directly transfer from it to Go buy only Gen 7 onwards.
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>>12418338
It's a little worth it if you're a Pokemon Home user. They also restored the two event only islands so it's a decent way to get Deoxys, Ho-oh and Lugia without resorting to Pokemon Go or a DS game and going through the process to trade it up. It's better than playing on a phone at least and very fast and convenient to boot up on a Switch. Outside of that though no it's definitely not worth $20. They couldn't even be bothered to throw in the GBA screen filter they already have on the NSO GBA app.

>>12418383
It actually doesn't. Only original Gameboy and Gameboy Color does. Nintendos own GBA app is somehow the *only* GBA emulator that has online support, at least the only one that works well. There's some really ancient GBA emulator that has it but I couldn't get it to work. Shame they didn't include it for these rereleases, they already figured it out so I don't know why they'd omit it.
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>>12418338
Yes, because the original is $120-200 on the second hand market.
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>paying for a 25 year old rom
lmao
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>>12420479
Normies do that.
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>>12420378
3DS used Pokemon Bank. GO is that weird mobile game
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>>12420345
>every white
Wild brownoid appears!
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>>12418338
Paying for a download is faggier behavior than paying for an over priced second hand copy.
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>>12420345
This just comes off as third worlders receiving culture shock over seeing people with money they are able to spend.
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>>12418846
>which makes me wonder if there were other changes like patching out the roaming IV glitch.
IV bug is still intact, but they DID fix the bug where roamers vanish from your save file permanently if they use Roar.
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>>12418959
Lazy fucks
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>>12420389
?? I've never had a problem doing netplay with mGBA in retroarch, at least for Pokemon
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>>12418365
Do you really believe that or is it just a meme you think it's funny
So many of the shit people label as "brown" also includes white people, including namefags and actual people that were accused of being brown but turned out to be white
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>>12421624
Anyone who pays any amount of money for a 20 year old GBA rom is brown
Didn't make the rules sorry
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>>12421716
No, not the case what so ever.

What Nintendo is doing is game presivation.
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>>12418338
>I'll just get the re-release if I must

The re-release is high-effort from Nintendo for sure, but in the most anti-consumer way possible.
First of all, it's an all-new version compiled from source in late December 2025.

But did they add translations from their cancelled attempts to localize it to Dutch, Chinese or Korean?
Did they combine the existing translations in a single package?
Did they fix compatibility issues with the different version trading with each other?
Did they add some way to get the event-exclusive mons or the on-cart DLC that was tied to a defunct Japan-only online service or the e-Reader, regardless of region?
Did they, per chance, make a definitive package with combined content from both/all three versions for solo players like they did with their Youkai Watch 3 localization?

Well fuck you, they added a hook to the Switch word filter and a whole bunch of telemetry to ensure you're not doing any speedrunning or cheats or exploits or using it for Switch 2 arbitrary code execution, and they put in a lot of effort into that.

Anything that benefits the player, though?
Each language is sold separately. Each version is sold separately.
Want both versions? Pay $40.
Want all languages? Pay $120.
Want all languages and both versions? Pay $240.
And there's more! Internal files reveal they're planning more similar Pokemon releases too from GBA gen.

The dude on ebay isn't any better, you're playing russian roulette with the odds that you're getting a fake cartridge with a printed label presented as an authentic "rare collector item" of one of the most commonplace games ever.

tl;dr

Pirate old games unless you're sure you're helping the original employees
Even then never pay above indie prices
Regardless of the above, don't support current Nintendo greed
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>>12421956
This is not greed, this is preservation and preservation isn't free.

Also they're doing ala cart releases for Super Metroid and Zelda: Ocarina of Time as well.

tl;dr
SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!
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>>12421956
>Pirate old games unless you're sure you're helping the original employees
GameFreak has proven again and again that they don't deserve money.
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>>12421973
NO! Read >>12421971 as >>12421956 is lying, in fact he that X68kfag who keeps on spreading lies about the industry and it's content.
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>y-you may pay up to 2-240 dollarinos i-if you want all the languages a-and versions possible!!
You only need one version, maybe two if you’re chasing a living dex. The real problem ain’t the price-like, imagine being so broke you can’t cough up forty bucks for both. Nah, the issue is Pokémon Home compatibility. It’s worthless, ‘cause some mons had moves you could only learn back in Green Leaf/Fire Red, but the second you transfer ‘em to Home, poof-those moves are gone.

And then you got broke folks whining about how broke they are, same way that homeless dude >>12421956 does. But the actual problem is the Pokémon data itself-once you move ‘em, it’s busted. RGB and GSC handled it way better on the 3DS with Bank compatibility. This new re‑release? Lame as hell. Only the heckerino tendierino are gonna buy it. The broke crowd can’t afford it, normies will duck it and the hardcore trainers are too smart to fall for it.
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>>12421973
>GameFreak has proven again and again that they don't deserve money.
Game Freak’s non-Pokémon games are great, but the real issue lies with Creatures Inc. in the Pokémon triumvirate.
You know nada.
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>>12421461
>they DID fix the bug where roamers vanish from your save file permanently if they use Roar.
That definitely sweetens the deal. Again, I've emulated FRLG to death so I won't be getting this no matter what, but I can see this being a good value for people who got brainwashed into thinking that emulating 20 year old games on their phones is a crime as bad as rape.
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>>12422008
All Creatures does is the bulk of the Pokémon designs (Game Freak only does 10-30% of them) and the trading card game, they rarely are allowed to do spin offs like Pokémon Rangers (taking over for Hal Laboratory once they moved their focus to their own IPs like Kirby and BoxBoy) and Detective Pikachu.
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>>12422032
>All Creatures does is the bulk of the Pokémon designs (Game Freak only does 10-30% of them) and the trading card game
...and 3D modeling, with a chance to influence the direction of Pokémon.
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>>12422003
I’ll be honest, I don’t care about the price or languages being split into separate purchases or HOME support that much, I’m just pissed by how underwhelming this rerelease is. Why does TPC have the resources to make a shitty music player with a shit ton of plastic to swap tracks but can’t do a physical release with both of these on one cart?
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>>12422071
Nintendo has been planning these retro rereleases (Virtual Console in everything but name) for Switch 2 since 2023, before the Switch 2 came out.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/699936994/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/700194003/

In fact Nintendo NERD and iQue had emails about this subject that lasted between March of 2023 to December of 2024, FRLG was part of that outcome and since it was a success we're getting retro rerelease of Super Metroid and Zelda: Ocarina of Time next.
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>>12422094
So they’ve been planning it for 2 years and it never occured to them that people might want something a bit more than a single ROM? Even after every other company under the sun made physical compilations with extra fluff? But Pokemon doesn’t need any of that to sell so I’m not even mad at Nintendo or GameFreak, I’m mad at the retarded pokefags who consoom it all
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>>12422071
>Why does TPC have the resources to make a shitty music player with a shit ton of plastic to swap tracks but can’t do a physical release with both of these on one cart?
The bureaucratic madness behind the most profitable video game IP shared by three companies must be incredibly horrible.
>Nintendo has been planning these retro rereleases (Virtual Console in everything but name) for Switch 2 since 2023
Pokémon as a brand is far too big and powerful to be on the virtual console; they can make much more profit selling them the way they currently do. It’s like Elsa from Frozen, she became so popular and profitable that Disney made her a standalone franchise. She’s not part of the Disney Princess line, but of “Frozen” itself.
Plus, every decision involving the Pokémon brand has to be discussed among three companies, and coordinating their efforts must be incredibly complex. I work at Nissan, and dealing with Renault and Mitsubishi niggers is already tough, so I can only imagine how much harder it must be with the Pokémon triumvirate.
They need to face a massive crisis to improve; they could release the worst product imaginable and still make a huge profit, with most people being "satisfied". If Nissan could mess up the Honda merger, those three could do even worse while making an even bigger profit.
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>>12422130
The Wii, 3DS and Wii U will all like to have a word with you, people want to OWN their retro games, not rent them on NSO.
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>>12422094
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/699936994/
Hilarious (if true) that Ninty needed the work of the autists that work on MiSTer cores to figure out how to write a generic N64 emulator (as opposed to the Wii's N64 emulator that needed to be full of hacks for each game to work). Like they really didn't still have their documents from when they developed the N64? Why are they having to refer to third parties' analyses of their own console to write an emulator?
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>>12422143
Nothing you said is true as Nintendo NERD and iQue have been plaining these retro rereleases since 2023, plus they're not using the name "Virtual Console" in this.
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>>12422148
MiSTer is just that good.
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>>12422146
I haven’t said anything about NSO, I agree that owning games is better than renting them but surely you see the difference between owning them physically and digitally? Also, I don’t pay for NSO but I feel like people who already pay $50 to play GBA games should be able to play these too
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>>12422156
My brother in Christ, it took them three whole years to coordinate a terrible re-release of a GBA game in the worst way imaginable under a dead brand. How many years have passed since they dropped the "Virtual Console" brand?
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>>12422156
By the way, I got mixed up: >>12422143
I said VC, but I meant NSO. I forgot they rebranded the concept when they shifted from owning retro games to renting them on a subscription.
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>>12421461
>IV bug is still intact
Because fixing it would apparently flag them as illegal Pokemon by HOME's hack-checkers.
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>>12422356
LMAO, game freak are so incompetent.
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>>12422170
That is not a terrible re-release, Nintendo NERD knows what they're doing.

Also the words "Virtual Console" are not being used.
>>12422401
Game Freak had nothing to do with this.
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>>12421956
>Did they add some way to get the event-exclusive mons or the on-cart DLC that was tied to a defunct Japan-only online service or the e-Reader, regardless of region?
Yes.
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>>12418338
I thought it was interesting that the original price of like $35 at release in 2004 is equivalent to $60 today. Eh, $20 doesn't seem so awful to me.
>in b4 "AlL gAmEs ShOuLd Be FrEe"
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>>12422818
More like, people are complaining because there are old games on the switch's virtual console that are being sold half of that price.
Also, FR/LG were 8 dollars on the wii-U.

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