>>12425032
there isnt such a thing as trying too hard, if something looks to you like its trying too hard thats a reflection of you and your own insecurities of being genuine and true to yourself.

Yeah. The game constantly tries to tell you shit is fucked but everything is pretty alright. Yeah a few people died in Kakariko and the Zora queen died but Castle Town is doing fine despite being 2 feet away from Ganon's fuck castle.

That scene made me feel second-hand embarrasment for whoever made it, so yes

>>12425045
That is the part that kills it for me. Yeah, I played through.

Maybe there should have been a liberation of castle town. Then the castle goes on lockdown.

Maybe there should have been some characters which are important that got killed in battle.

Maybe Twilight world shouldn't have just been a crappy little dungeon.

Also, why are ordons so ugly? I am ok with ugly occas and the occasional uggo. But his home town is filled with weird faces.

Some how with all these flaws the game is still an upgrade from windwaker.

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>>12425032
Wind Waker -> Twilight Princess was the story as Morrowind -> Oblivion. LOTR was just way too big at the time.

It's kind of like everything trying to be Game of Thrones or Dark Souls nowadays, back then it was Lord of the Rings.

But you'd know this if you were old enough to have played TP on release. This is just another bait thread.

>>12425038
/thread
It's the same when retards say something is 'pretentious'

>>12425110
>posted reddit screenshot
go back

>>12425032
This was just one cutscene

>>12425126
That's literally one of the lead devs on Morrowind/Oblivion.

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>>12425048
People pretend to not want to have their parents walk in on them doing sexy moves in Bayonetta and S&M torturing some fucked up monster as her, but they really don't want their parents walking in and seeing this stupid shit on the screen.

this will always be a wii game and not a gamecube game

>>12425032
Gem

>>12425045
But that's most Zelda games.
OoT is also post apocalyptic in the time skip but most people are chilling out just fine.
Hylians just have apocalyptic events happen so much they're very good at making the most of it.

>>12425147
>this will always be a wii game
the wii game had a mirrored world and was basically fanfiction with a right handed link.

>>12425241
>OoT is also post apocalyptic in the time skip but most people are chilling out just fine.
Yeah this is one of the games biggest flaws. Changes in the world aren't shown to have any significant consequence and the plight of the Hylians isn't very convincing. Oh the fat guy who squwaks at you is inconvenienced? Oh well. The bald guy who calls you disgusting had to move next door? Not my problem. Coming after Mega Man Legends which succeeded far more in this regard left a lot to be desired.

>>12425130
>one of the lead devs on Morrowind/Oblivion.
>a redditor
kek no wonder they sucked ass, Skyrim keeps winning

>>12425363
Your performative tribalism just makes you seem retarded.

>>12425241
>OoT is also post apocalyptic in the time skip but most people are chilling out just fine.
Zoras are frozen, Gorons imprisoned, castle inhabitants turned into redeads, ranch taken over illegitimately by someone else, monsters in the forest and the Deku tree dead. I would say most of them weren't having a great time.

>>12425428
Yeah, but everyone seems happy in Kakariko.

>5 hours tutorial
>game only starts after the second dungeon
>every new place youre forced to play as wolf link

>>12425241
>uhh dude the castle just like, became locked inside a giant crystal and guards are placed around it because there's demonic creatures trapped inside dude
>lmao let's just keep living here right next to it bro
no, sorry, that is not even remotely comparable to how well OoT handled the adult timeline.
>castle town is completely ruined and infested with zombies, and the only guy who inhabits it is a schizo hermit who buys ghosts
>kokiri forest is overrun by monsters until you beat forest temple, and the inhabitants stay inside all day and will tell you how fearful they are if you talk to them
>lon lon ranch is owned by some dick weegee who only gets off easy because he's literally breeding horses for ganondorf
>death mountain now has boulders and shit rolling around, more enemies, the city is mostly abandoned and all of the gorons live in cuck cages in an islamic prison
>zoras are all stuck in ice cubes
there's kakariko village, but it's located up in the mountains beyond castle town and half the people who live there tell you they had to move there because it was the only safe area to settle in after castle town got destroyed. honestly, i've never fully appreciated how well they made the world feel post-apocalyptic until now. TP's approach is absolutely fucking retarded.

>>12425038
>>12425124
I get what you’re saying, but Twilight Princess felt like such a hard turn after the at-the-time reception of Wind Waker. In hindsight, Wind Waker feels like the more heartfelt, sincere Zelda from the GameCube era, while Twilight Princess feels a little more desperate.

>>12425597
That was literally the case. Aonuma flat out has said in a keynote speech he made Twilight Princess out of obligation instead of want, and then fucked off midway through development to play with Toon Link in Minish Cap.

>>12425038
Based midwit.

>>12425248
Link is right handed though

>>12425032
Best story Zelda ever told.

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>>12425124
This retarded autism is what always makes me come back

>>12425038
>>12425124
What? Things can absolutely be trying too hard or pretentious. It has nothing to do with anyone else or how they "feel".

>>12425032
Ya

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>>12425032
tp tried and i got hard.

>>12425032
All the post-MM Zeldas have been. The series was always fairly easy but they really pandered to absolute retards starting with WW.

>>12427645
Wind Waker was the least autistic the series has been since Aonuma took over.