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>>12425216
Wrong retard

>>12425234
Tekken can only outmatch DoA.

Nah, at its best it has a unique flavour that isn't made redundant by other games. There's a specific itch I scratch when playing like a cracked out jin/devil jin wavedash kbd electric whiff punish sweatlord, even though I greatly prefer playing virtua fighter.

The vibe of tekken 3 and 4 can't be beat either. Tekken 4 with a mod to remove the kbd limitation would be kino.

>>12425216
Which Tekken games have that Tekken Force mode? I only really care about that mode. I've never played any of the Tekken games except in arcades.

>>12425269
Tekken 3 & 4

>>12425216
I would say, at this late date, you've been strongly outvoted.

>>12425238
DoA is the best fighting series though

Soul Calibur 1/2 > Tekken 2/3

>>12425216
Honestly, there was no better 3D fighter on consoles at the time of Tekken 3 release in 1998 and even if we include 2D fighters in this discussion, only SFA3 and KoF98 were comparable but they were way more niche.

Tekken 4 era - yeah, we had DoA3, VF4 and Soul Calibur 2 around the same time and T4 itself was undercooked but it was still a good game.

>>12425882
SC characters are not as memorable as Tekken cast and fantasy setting is lame.

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>>12425943
>no better 3D fighter on consoles at the time of Tekken 3 release in 1998
Or arcade.

Tekken 3 made Virtua Fighter 3 and Fighting Vipers 2 seem antiquated. The Midway shit like Mace the Dark Age and War Gods felt like it was made a decade before Tekken 3.

The only thing that held a candle to it was Soul Calibur, another Namco game. Tekken 3 was a huge technical leap forward, both visually and for gameplay, way ahead of its time.

>>12425971
VF3 had 3D arenas and advanced texturing/filrering/reflection effects, to be fair.
But the animations were outdated, and the game wasn't avaliable anywhere except in select arcades until the crappy DC port.

something something bigger than the sum of its parts something something

>>12425971
>Tekken 3 made Virtua Fighter 3 and Fighting Vipers 2 seem antiquated.
Funny considering Tekken 4 tried to copy VF3 and failed so spectacularly it isn't even funny.

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>>12425954
Absolutely retarded normalfaggot take. Literally everything about Soulcalibur is better and more unique than Tekken, from the actual 17th century Age of Exploration setting to the wild cast of characters from around the world to the actual presentation and mechanics. Even its single player modes mogged Tekken.


Tekken isn't bad, but you literally have the taste of a woman or a retard if you think Tekken is better than SC.

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I only care about Virtua Fighter and I only care about Virtua Fighter 5.

>>12426118
>Funny considering Tekken 4 tried to copy VF3
Did it?

>>12426259
>actual 17th century Age of Exploration
I'm pretty sure ppl didn't wear generic korean mmo outfits during the actual 17th century.

SC charactets are good cosplay or rule34 material but other than that they are completely forgettable.

>>12426317
>VF4 but dumbed down
Why would a VF fan care about VF5?

>>12427943
Not sure how it's dumbed down. They got rid of MTE which was mostly an execution gate and added sideturn stuff which I think adds a lot of mechanical depth and engages the brain more. The current throw break system has just as many mind games as MTE, just less execution.

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>>12427939
As far as weapons based fighters go, I prefer Samurai Shodown

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Imo 90s 3D fighters were peak in general. From VF2, VF3, Tekken 2 and Tekken 3, to Tobal games, Ehrgeiz, SF EX, Soul Edge, Fighting Vipers, Samurai Spirits 64, Evil Zone, Fighter's Destiny, Psychic Force, Zero Divide, Bushido Blade, Critical Blow.
In 2000s everything just condenced to comp scene faggotry and the next Tekken, DoA and SC game which were not bad but not that much better than their prequels made in the 90s really, while other series died off.

>>12427943
It has El Blaze in it

>>12427939
>I'm pretty sure ppl didn't wear generic korean mmo outfits during the actual 17th century.
Weird cope, but whatever.

>SC charactets are good cosplay or rule34 material but other than that they are completely forgettable.
They're more memorable than any Tekken character out there. Literally half of the Tekken characters look like generic angry Japanese bodybuilders that belong in the Yakuza games. Only the chicks like Asuka, Lilli, Michelle/Julia, etc and the joke characters look unique meanwhile at a glance you can tell the difference between Rafael, Yun Seong, Rock, Li Long, Maxi etc.

The only exception is the cast of SC5, they were literally just younger generation copies of the older characters.

>>12428286
>They're more memorable than any Tekken character out there
thanks for admitting that you havent played the games and know nothing and/or dont care about about martial arts.

>>12428472
That's basically what you admitted yourself when you said all the SC characters wear generic koream mmo outifts. It's your choice so whatever. Stop pretending you know anything about a series you know nothing about.

>>12428479
oh im not the guy that you've been arguing with. i just jumped in when i noticed that you outed yourself as having no argument.

personally, i can only remember a handful of sc characters. here, i'll tell you who and why:
voldo: for obvious silly reasons. he stands out very unique, basically a joke character
sigfried/nightmare: because of the massive sword
sophitia: because her name was stupid, and she looked like a valkyrie.
ivy: sex
astaroth: because an axe is very different from a sword. always made me think of frankenstein for some reason though, maybe in the "large and lumbering" way.
raphael: because traditional fencing
there was also a spear boy and a spear girl.

and without looking anything else up, thats it. nothing else really stood out to me. not their looks, nor their moves. meanwhile in tekken, actual martial arts are represented, as well as memorable characters
law is bruce lee
lei is jackie chan and chinese animal form kung fu
bryan is a murderous psychopath
king is a wrestler with a fucking jaguar head
jack is a hulking robot
hwoarang and baek are tae kwon do
bruce is muay thai
steve is boxing (and roger was a goofy boxing kangaroo)
mokujin was the formless traditional training dummy
nina and anna are femme fatale sisters using aikido and cqc stuff
yoshimitsu has a sword, crazy looks, weird stances and fighting style. just remembering now that he's in sc, but wildly watered down and dull in comparison
eddy is capoeira
kuma is a fucking BEAR
paul had the tall hair and everyone remembers deathfist.
ganryu for sumo
and thats completely disregarding any of the actual stories, cutscenes, or personalities. theres a lot to latch on to and remember. sc hardly anything in comparison. and looking back up through your argument with the other guy, yeah im inclined to agree that most of the characters look like generic korean mmo characters: all superficial flare, no depth or actual connection.

>>12428559
TL;DR

>>12427926
Yes. It tried to do walls and uneven terrain of VF3 but without the animation system to carry it.

>>12428560
tl;dr
tekken has actual characters and fighting styles
sc has generic asian clothes, skimpy women, or "what if it was spiky???" with tons of extra trim. very few outliers or notables.

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>>12428479
one of these things is not like the others
(its tekken)