>>12464609
Woah buddy... Buy TV with a VGA input!

>>12464624
what about a hdmi to vga cable and a vga to component transcoder? I don't really want to get another crt.

>>12464627
get a computer monitor, dumbass

>>12464629
why can't I use the equipment I already have?

Probably an adapter of some kind

>>12465327
I ordered an easycel HDMI to component adapter. It says it can do 480i. Hopefully it works.

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Getting straight component from a PC is hard and there isnt a direct way. You can get RGB and then convert it to component with a transcoder.
The GBS 8100 -you can find it in aliexpress for 25 bucks- accepts VGA 31khz and converts to composite, svideo or RGB.
Many of the old Radeon ATI cards have Component video outputs straight from the card with a special cable.

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>>12465580

>>12465582
lookin good

>>12465582

Interesting - how do arcade games look on it?

Get one of those old ass GPUs with an S-Video output on it

>>12465582
at least put some win9x on it, you cretin

>>12464609
Sell it and get a real monitor.

>>12465776
will that actually work on modern windows 10? I do have s-video input.

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>>12464609
I used this and a Chromecast to watch media before I connected a modded Wii with media library.

>>12465776
Those are limited to 480i. You might as well just get a HDMI to composite or S-Video adapter at that point. Also OP is asking for component.

>>12464609
A RGB mod might make things simpler.

>>12466374
Wii can output component natively though.

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>>12465591
>>12465801

i know it looks like shit, but it was just a test using the most barebones PC i had, and the resolution 800x600
with a proper setup it looks much better than this
this is S-Video for example

>>12465674

the min resolution accepted is 640x480, so if you use something like windows XP combined with MAME it should look good enough

keep in mind this is the cheapest thing possible than isnt those awful VGA to composite converters

>>12466460
At least output 480p if you can't output 480i, try to keep it as close as possible.

>>12465580
Does it Do 240p?

>>12464609
>component
No, you need to output VGA from your PC and then convert it to whatever your TV has.

>>12466740
For 240p you want something like an old GPU with crtemudriver. Then you can output a 15khz 240p signal through VGA/RGB.

>>12466740
>>12466952
If all you want is 240p you don't even need to go that far, even DisplayPort and HDMI to VGA dongles work for that.

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>>12464609
Might want to check this out.
https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92

>>12466971
No they don't, they only do 480.

>>12466994
They don't do 480i, the only 15kHz progressive modes they do is 240p (224p - 288p).
Unless you have a old GPU like GTX 980 or RX 280, than you can do 480i that way too.

>>12466994
see >>12466985

>>12466985
>2024
Is it still true?

>>12467005
It worked then, why wouldn't it work now?

>>12467001
Adapters don't do 15khz at all they do 30khz which is why they only do 480.

>>12467002
Notice how it's the same shit, you still need an older gpu with older drivers and a native VGA output. What we're discussing is adapters going from HDMI to VGA. They do not do less than 480. It's really not that big of a deal though, you can buy an old CRTEmudriver GPU for literally the same price as an adapter.

If anyone really wants to prove their point and back it up I'll gladly watch your catbox video showing your PC going from your HDMI to VGA adapter to a TVs back at 240p and showing the 256x240 resolution setting in windows display settings.

>>12467018
They most certainly do 15kHz.
If you look in /vr/ archives there's plenty of posts of it working.

https://warosu.org/vr/thread/9062842#p9066956

https://warosu.org/vr/thread/10976487#p10977945

https://warosu.org/vr/thread/8869242#p8876910

>>12464629
Presumably he wants to play console games emulated on a CRT, which a monitor isn't as good for.

>>12467025
Not a single one of those posts shows a single adapter being used, in fact only one of them mentions one at all the other mentions it's going out from the onboard VGA.

Like I said, I more than welcome someone showing a HDMI to VGA adapter going to a TV at 240p. Now, there ARE adapters/DACs that can properly downscale to 240 without the proper signal coming in, but your average generic chinese one you're buying off amazon isn't going to do it and once again, you can buy an old Radeon card for $20 so why the fuck would you but an adapter that may or most likely won't work for the same price when you can get a guaranteed best bang for your buck for the same price?

>>12466453
Yep, I used an HDMI Chromecast to Converter to Component for the tv, before I used the Wii directly to the TV as a better solution for retro media. Most Chromecast media is 16:9 anyway, on the Wii I focused on h.264 480p 4:3 media on my HDD.

>>12464609
Easy get an agp gpu, connect the AV cables and call it a day is not that hard.

>>12467520
which one would you recommend? What's the advantage of using a agp gpu over a converter box?

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>>12467495
Wii through component looks great as well so if you have a modded one and a non RGB TV it's probably the best solution for a lot of games.

>>12467520
>>12467759
Lol you're not gonna be using an AGP GPU no motherboard has had an AGP slot since like 2004 when PCI won and took over.

But just buy the cheapest CRTEmudriver supported gpu you can afford. The Radeon 5450 is probably like $20, same price you'd pay for an adapter. Then you use it for output and your other GPU for processing.

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>>12467141

>>Not a single one of those posts shows a single adapter being used
Did you even look?

>PC -> DP to VGA adapter -> VGA to RGB cable -> TV.
Pic related.

>but your average generic chinese one you're buying off amazon isn't going to do it
Also the link in >>12466985 says:
>Known good DP to VGA adapter brands are StarTech, Rankie and DeLock.

>>12467141
>downscale to 240 without the proper signal coming in
Also why would you do that if you can output 240p straight away?

>you can buy an old Radeon card for $20 so why the fuck would you but an adapter
Well if you look at >>12466985 again it says...
>Mainly as an alternative to CRT Emudriver, which is well documented anyways with lots of good guides.

There's plenty of cases where a second GPU isn't an option.
Laptops, mini ITX builds or builds with no free PCIe slots, SBCs.
Like I have a ATX machine and no free PCIe slots, because I already have a GPU and a 25GbE SFP PCIe NIC (three PCIe slots on board, but only 2 work because NVMe SSD disables one).

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>>12468085
>did you even look
Anon, pic related is the 3 links you shared. No I didn't go read entire old threads on an archive site because I'm not an autist.

Regardless, I asked for a video showing everything it's the only thing I will accept. It's 2026, it's a simple request. I can give you a bunch of pictures showing nonsense going to my TV if you want, because that exactly what a non video is to me.

Yes I read the link, and I replied here >>12467018 I literally see 0 point in buying a "known" working adapter when you can just buy a working GPU for the same price or less.

>>12468093
>Also why would you do that if you can output 240p straight away?
That's how adapters usually have to do it, because HDMI doesn't output a 15khz analog signal anon. The adapter either limits to 480 or it tries to convert it to 240. They literally have to convert it. That's literally my whole point, you need to output a proper 240p signal. That's the whole reason CRTEmudriver is a thing.

>>12468094
>>12468096
>because HDMI doesn't output a 15khz analog signal anon.
Of course it does. The limiting factor would be the DAC in the adapter, not HDMI itself.
The picture in the post >>12468085 is showing it working.

>video
You think someone is trolling you with posts from years ago?

>That's the whole reason CRTEmudriver is a thing.
You realize how old CRT Emudriver is?
We're talking about cards that had native VGA out, there was no reason to use adapters.

>>12468109
>he thinks HDMI outputs an analog signal
Just go away retard

>>12468117
Not analog, the DAC is the adapter turns it analog, HDMI itself is fully capable of outputting timings for a 15kHz signal though.

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>>12468128

>>12468142
I thought you said you're not autistic? Why are you nitpicking on wording now?
I was hoping it would be clear by mentioning the DAC in >>12468109 that the signal starts off as digital. Unless you're unaware what DAC means.

If you want I can make it more clear.
HDMI is fully capable of outputting a 15kHz digital signal the DAC in term turns into a 15kHz analog signal.

>>12468150
>If you want I can make it more clear.
>HDMI is fully capable of outputting a 15kHz digital signal
>digital
So we agree. Thanks, now fuck off ESL.

>>12468156
No need to get angry and start shitposting.

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get a radeon 4000 series which are pennies nowadays...

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>>12468172

and use the din-9 pin output with one of these cables, and done

>>12468172
>>12468174
do you still need crtemudriver for 240?

>>12465582
Lol that looks like ass

>>12468027
This looks great

>>12468172
Will this be more convenient than using a converter box? That's what I'm using now and it works fine but there is a bit of overscan.

>>12468326

Maybe not more convenient but 10x better at producing a good image

>>12464609
If you already have a Mister with component out you can stream over to the CRT using Groovy Mister.

>>12468247

no, these old ATI cards were famous for having TV native outputs using the drivers and Catalyst software. The only downside is that most of these drivers are 20 years old, so you will not get them to work past windows vista/7 without fiddling around

>>12468467
oh cool I was worried the lowest they go are 480

>>12468470
desktop resolution I mean

>>12468470
>>12468472
Like he said, as long as your running an old OS you can probably get drivers and have no issues. Then you're having the issue of running an old OS and not being able to use your modern software/hardware and other issues though. That's the whole point of CRTEmudriver, they are able to modify/hack the drivers to allow you to do what you need to do on a modern system.

>>12468550
so with crtemudriver >>12468174 will work?

>>12468553
If it's a supported GPU you're using for it, yeah. Otherwise it will work, but in it's own ways which mean whatever OS the gpu is supported til driver wise and then what that OS supports and what you've installed etc.

Honestly if we have to explain all of this to you it's probably above your knowledge base to troubleshoot.

>>12467018
Do you think it's a hoax or?

>>12468593
It's not a hoax, it just is people incorrect about something. Shitty transcoded cheap DACs connected to an HDMI aren't doing shit and there's no reason to spend more on expensive ones that do when you can just get the GPU.

>>12465274
Why do you want to plug a PC into a CRT TV in the first place?

>>12469664
So I can play my dvd rips with vlc and have them look nice and sharp on my crt.

>>12469664
Lot's of reasons to be doing that. Personally my PC is an emulation station connected to CRTs for the best more accurate way. I also use them for watching old anime and stuff and other 4:3 content can be nice.

>>12469979
When I play 480p stuff like stargate atlantis on my crt monitor there's black bars on the top and bottom. Is that because its been formatted for a wider screen and not 4:3?

>>12470020
It's encoded in anamorphic widescreen. It was so you can use the entire full resolution of the CRT at 480i with non-square pixels then squished the image down to the appropriate aspect ratio. If you aren't watching in anamorphic mode you lose that 1/4 resolution that stretching 16:9 content to 4:3 vertically gains. It's kinda confusing. Google anamorphic widescreen on DVDs and there's sure to be a better explanation.

>>12469664
Why wouldn't you?

>>12468174
dumb question but what if my cable isn't long enough to reach the CRT? is there a 9-pin extension cord?

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>>12470192
Just get RCA extensions? Just make sure they are well shielded.

>>12470195
why not just get longer RCA cables?...

>>12470483
we are all using our overpriced retrovision cables here at /vr/

>>12471540
No we're not

>>12471540
I always make my own cables.

>>12472294
>i always larp my own larps

>>12473106
How incompetent do you have to be to think making cables is hard.

>>12469664
because old vidya look better on CRT

>>12473109
>How incompetent do I have to be to cope this hard about a ridiculous larp

>>12473310
Can you even solder?

>>12473871
>can i even stop coping?
doubt
Cry harder little larping attention whore.

>>12474085
So you use overpriced retrovision cables instead of making your own?

>>12467141
Maybe because you CANT run 2 GPUs and the old Radeon meme 240p one might fry up your PC?

>>12468027
Playing NES, GENESIS and SNES without the old composite bleed of their original cables is bad.

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>>12468085
He could just took a lucky 480i picture with no flicker to pass it up at 240p, we were duped man.

>>12468172
Thank You, now the rats at Shitbay will take notes and signal to YouTube Ecelbs to dogwhistle and JERK UP the prices.

Asshole.

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>>12474226

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>>12474226
Can't even do 480i with a 2080S.

>inb4 Enterntainment

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>>12468174
How about a Cable that converts Component cables to regular Composite? Will that work he he hem

>>12474234
>2080S
2070S*

>>12474229
>Doesn't show if it's a CRT or PC monitor
>Doesn't show Cables
>Doesn't show PC
>Doesn't show dick

Nice try, jackass.

>>12474239
It's >>12468085

>>12464627
Why add vga in for noreason when you can go hdmi to component?

>>12474103
>s-s-so u
lmfao. Just fuck off back to your containment board you silly silly child.

>>12474405
What board would that be?

>>12474224
Nigga what? You can run as many GPUs as you want in your system lmao. Also why the fuck would a GPU fry your system? Holy shit zoomers are stupid.

>still no video proof

>>12474281
I was thinking maybe a vga to component transcoder would be better quality than a hdmi to component converter since most hdmi component converters are cheap chink shit and everyone itt was telling me to just do vga earlier in the thread.

>>12475016
Just do the gpu, it's literally like $15-20 it's the same price if not cheaper than a converter and works better.

>>12475032
yeah that's what I'm gonna do eventually.

>>12475036
Why wait?

>>12475060
because I just got my converter thingy and I don't have a job right now so I want to save money until I get a new one.

>>12475064
Go get a job you dirty hippie

>>12464609
Connect a display to your PC and use your CRT's screen reflection to view the other display.

It will be mirrored so you may need a mirror or a second CRT to flip it back.

>>12474406
Whatever larper cope shithole threw you out and made you come here,

Is Emudriver the best way to connect a PC to a SCART TV?
From what I can tell it seems to be, wondering if anyone has better methods.

>>12475392
Yes, of course it is.

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>>12464609
A little off topic but in a similar boat. Got a little security monitor that only takes composite and want to hook up a computer.
I made an S-Video to comp cable, plugged in through an nVidia 8000 series card. All I get is some waves on the no signal screen, but works perfectly fine on a flat panel. Any ideas on other options?
I'd love to RGB mod it but got a few problems. It doesn't save settings so I have to drop brightness back every time I turn it on, and there's also no printing on either IC, so can't work out what jungle chip even if I go the OSD method. Might be time to order picrel and see if its any good.
There's almost no documentation about the business and never found mention of the monitor which has made things difficult.

>>12475392
I repurposed an old 4970k shitbox for emulation and the onboard HD 4600 has VGA that outputs 240p and 480i without problems. Just got a VGA to SCART cable.

>>12464609
i bet an s video to hdmi would work, if your crt has the port.

Saw a guy selling an LG rp-57nz60p, an HD CRT. It doesn't seem to have HDMI but it does have composite, component and S-video, up to 1080i. Anyone have any experience with these kinds of TVs? How are they for vidya?

>>12475843
No one plays Vidya on crt, they are just for show off and exist only to take up space

>>12475843
I'd be curious to hear how they handle 480i/480p DVDs. DVDs usually look sharper on a smaller screen so if a CRT is 1920x1080p then I'd be worried about the image looking blown up. It's probably great for widescreen stuff though.

>>12475858
Get the fuck off this board you ingorant nothing.
Why the fuck do you even come here?
You and all the other shitposting retards need to get the fuck out and stay out.
You clearly aren't into this, and spew bile in thread after thread, adding nothing of value.
Fuck you. Fuck off

>>12475876
I'm sorry the truth hurts anon. Don't worry though, if your CRT is taking up too much space and collecting dust, I'm sure you can easily find a bigger sucker to sell it to and make a good profit while you're at it.

>>12475876
Post your crt

Get the fuck out

>>12475876
Post your own setup to prove you're not a larper yourself.

>>12475728
Sure it's actually outputting the right resolution?

>>12474225
I agree, those consoles don't look good being pixel perfect

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>>12475939
Yep.

Full-size and closer:
https://files.catbox.moe/ku2rkp.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/9mrqvj.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/x8fg9w.jpg

>>12475009
>random underage cope rant
lmfao

>>12464609
99.9% of those converters only do 480i and look like garbage
you'll get a lot of people suggesting them anyways because they don't know the difference between 240p and 480i and are mentally retarded

>>12476005
you need something like RGB2COMP

Why don't you guys just squint and play on a regular display? It'll blur your vision and your game will look just as shit as if it were on a CRT.

>>12476027
what about motion clarity and latency at 60hz?

>>12476029
>60hz
A modern display wipes the floor with that

>>12475858
Why do you continue to shitpost in threads? I cannot imagine spending my time going into threads about things I hate. It's so weird.

>>12475996
>underage
Because I want proof? What a weird thought process. It's such a simple request.

>>12476032
modern displays are awful with motion at 60hz
you need at least 240hz etc and bfi
same with latency, they only have good latency running at high refresh

>>12476027
I borrow my mom's reading glasses while playing NES or SNES games on an emulator. They perfectly simulate a CRT's smearing effect.

>>12476027
I think you fundamentally don't understand why CRT's are good

>>12476049
Enlighten me.

>>12475728
>>12475954
How did you set it up?

>>12476052
It is a status symbol.

>>12476052
Enlightenment comes from using one

>>12476053
I used this.

>>12466985
>Might want to check this out.
>https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92

>>12476054
status being? you're gay?

>>12476005
Frankly it's not a big deal to me if it only does 480i because I'm mainly using it with my PC to watch DVDs and I have consoles that support component natively, but now I kinda want to get a TV that supports 480p because the picture quality is supposedly better. Alas most 480p CRTs are like giant widescreen monsters.

>these niggas are ok with watching 480 interlaced videos, prefer it over regular displays
What causes this?

>>12476667
the fact that 480p videos look sharper on a 480i display and were encoded with CRTs in mind so they look much better than they do on a LCD monitor. Same thing with watching a blu-ray on a 1080p monitor vs a 4k monitor. There's no upscaling so you get a sharper image.

>>12476667
Human eyes can't see more than 240 lines anyway.

>>12476005
Facts

>>12476667
>let me just deinterlace and upscale this video for my 4k OLED
What causes this?

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>>12467018

>>>/g/108483379

>>12477558
>he said it's 15khz so it must be 15khz!
It's not and a blurry picture doesn't show otherwise.

>>12475728
>>12475954
What VGA to SCART cable do you use? Does it have another connect for voltage?
Looking into it and I only find problems like the resistors are wrong or the VGA pin wont output the voltage needed for the SCART pin to enable RGB etc.
Is this not usually a problem?

>>12475095
no, all the jobs in the area are shitty so I’m waiting for some better businesses to start hiring

>>12477878
>What VGA to SCART cable do you use?
Self made. Sync is just joined via resistors, haven't had issues.

>Does it have another connect for voltage?
I use USB to get 5V from the PC it's hooked up to.
I split it up to 3V via resistor and 12V via step-up converter (for auto switching to SCART and RGB).

You don't really need to do the power part for it to work but then you have to manually switch the TV to AV SCART RGB in every time via remote or the source button in the front if yours has one.

>>12477878
Not that guy, but I use one that was made by a local store. It uses a USB port for voltage, but I've seen others that use a MOLEX connector. I'm not sure if the rules allow links or references to stores. I don't think its a very hard process for someone familiar with soldering so you should be fine if you find one that has vga, usb and optionally audio jack, even if it's marketed as being for Mister.

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>>12477878
>>12477890
Here's a pic. There's links to a guide and also pre-made cables in the pastebin too.

>>12466449
Many TVs with component didn't support anything higher than 240p/480i.

>>12478253
You can't get anything but 480i with them, not even 240p.

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I have one of these. Works fine. Can set the output to a bunch of different resolutions.

>>12477891
>>12477896
Thanks anons, if I get my set up working nicely I will probably post a picture soon.

>>12478263
Post video proof or begone!

Hi since this is the only CRT thread on the board I'd like to ask if it's worth it to track down a CRT that does 480p for playing DVDs and games with progressive scan. Also, I saw a CRT somewhere that supports 600p. What's up with that?

>>12478806
No

>>12476035
>Because I want proof?
Yes. What a weird thought process that you stamp your foot and demand an oompa loompa now instead of educating yourself.

>>12478806
The videos are still encoded in 480i.

>What's up with that?
Lots of later CRTs with component inputs support progressive. Used by later DVD, Blu-ray and game consoles.

>>12479421
It shouldn't be hard to post proof for such a thing.

>>12477896
What's that white block?

>>12479602
Cheesium

>>12479602
Magic crystals for signal integrity

>>12479602
The 12V step-up converter encased in resin.

>>12479430
Ah I see. I thought DVD was 480p, not 480i but I guess I was wrong. I guess HD CRTs have pretty niche usecases then?

>>12479687
HD CRTs suck for /vr/ anyways

>>12479689
Mostly true but things like PS2 and that generation in general can take advantage of them. There usually is a latency increase though.

>>12478750
Video proof of what? That I own it?

>>12479797
Ignore, it's the retard.

>>12479802
Who's the retard?

>>12479954
the video proof guy I guess

>>12479964
Why is he a retard? Why don't one you guys just show him the proof so he fucks off?

>>12480104
See >>12479421

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>>12480110
I'm confused though I did a google search and it says he's right so why be so against showing him the opposite?

>>12480127
Because both your AI and him are dumbasses.

>>12480104
It's funnier to keep him retarded

>>12480127
Kek retard #2

>>12480127
>>12480130
Best part is he is a CRT Emudriver fag, I've seen his setup before. He probably used AI in the first place.

>>12480127
>CRT emudriver with specific Nvidia card
LOL

>>12480128
Can you explain? I don't have a CRT or do any of this but I always see people explaining the 15khz stuff.

>>12480131
What's wrong with his setup?

>>12480135
see >>12466985

>>12480137
Nothing, but he believes CRT Emudriver is the only way to get 240p/480i aka 15kHz. Which the AI claims too, both are wrong.

>>12480138
So all someone has to do is show the advanced display active settings to end all this then?

>>12480138
Wouldn't using converters whether they work or not introduce a bunch of unnecessary input lag?

>>12480146
doesn't matter he won't believe you it has already been posted >>12468085

>>12480149
No, how do you think VGA ports on old GPUs work?

>>12480152
Well they aren't a secondary input they are directly on the PCB.

>>12480154
this has to be bait

>>12480140
What's wrong with crt emudriver?

>>12480154
Anon.... I...

>>12480158
Nothing? Did anyone claim otherwise? The method being discussed is an alternative to CRT Emudriver.

>>12480156
Idk man every time something is introduced inbetween things in these threads people say there's input lag and it's terrible.

>>12480161
Well the post >>12480131 replied to my question and said hes a crt emudriver fag and his setup used ai so I thought it being claimed as bad. I'm just trying to learn about this stuff.

>>12480154
>>12480163
it doesn't matter if the in-between thing is on the PCB or inside a dongle
end result is the same

>>12480165
Never implied it's bad.

>>12480163
>>12480165
might want to check out the /g/ thread linked here >>12477558
more in detail explanations

why are weebs so aggressive and weird

>>12480179
They get bullied irl so they act like tough guys on the internet, it's been that way for at least 20 years.

>>12480632
>it's been that way for at least 20 years.
Ironically it used to be like that 20 years ago but the horrifying truth is that weebs, furries, gamers, apple fags and actual fags, queers, etc are the norm in the real world now and they don't get bullied and that's why they have become the norm.
At least in the west, maybe in Russia, China and related there's still hope.

Not /vr/ or thread related though.

>>12480645
They're not the norm here, they still get bullied here. But now maybe it's because some have ran unchecked for so long they think they can just be huge pieces of shit without repercussions, like the child screaming for tendies meme.

>>12466985
This only shows super resolutions, but can those adapters do like 256x224? Like super mario world?

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How do I even connect a 3080ti to a TV?
I got a Sony KV-29FS110 years ago for some retro gaming.
Not my picture, just something I jacked from reddit, but its the exact same model.

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Get a Sony KD-34XBR970. It has HDMI input. Or a Toshiba 36HF73. It has DVI input. A lot of the larger last gen CRT had 'modern' inputs.

>>12481242
You don't.

>>12481252
God I wish.

>>12481258
Except I do.

>>12481262
No, you don't.

>>12478263
I use this and I've used my mister to do it as well.

>>12481242
converter box or get another gpu just for vivo output

>>12481147
Anyone?

>>12468470
you still only get 480, it's just 480i. No option for 240p on those.

>>12466994
are you sure you';re not thinking of a scaler? Any decent adapter doesn't change the video mode, just the signal format. You put weird resolution in, you get same weird resolution out.

>>12481147
>>12481431
It's pretty obvious you're the same faggot who thought those adapters don't do 240p. Your post on /g/ was literally minutes from your post here with nobody else talking about the topic.
Using super resolutions isn't a adapter limitation, it's a driver limitation with GPUs that don't do low pixel clocks. Any GPU that does low pixel clocks will also output non-super resolution 240p.

But why would you? I don't know why you think super resolutions are bad.

>>12481252
those have horrible latency and internally upconvert lower signals
awful for /vr/

>>12481498
>It's pretty obvious you're the same faggot who thought those adapters don't do 240p.
Obviously. Just stop replying to him. I didn't reply on purpose.

why does my post say deleted now.

>>12481498
Huh? So can I play mario at it's proper resolution using an adapter or no?

>>12481613
I don't know what bickering is going on here but yes you can

>>12481680
>I don't know what bickering is going on
then shut the fuck up

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>>12464609
i use one of these scalers they work really well, does 1080p or any res below to 480i, 720, 1080i etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/EASYCEL-Aluminum-Component-Converter-Function/dp/B07VGWL5P1

only cheap scaler ive found that works, i output 800x600 to my crt

>>12465580
>Many of the old Radeon ATI cards have Component video outputs straight from the card with a special cable.
i have a card that supports this it looks like shit kek

>>12481501
The dude is hooking a modern computer up to the display. It ain't gonna be outputting 240p anyway.

>>12482268
You can output 240p to it but it will still upscale it internally.

>>12482272
How are you going to output 240p from a PC over HDMI without some kind of converter?

>>12482282
What would you need to convert? The TV has HDMI in.

>>12482282
HDMI can run timings for 240p without needing any extra converter. HDMI is basically just DVI-D, which uses the same timings as analog VGA but in digital form.
The TV in question though probably only supports VESA standard resolutions, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i. It actually says on the back.

>>12482290
And the computer is going to use 1920x1080. At no point will 240p be used so it won't be upscaled.

>>12482306
You're going to output a 1080i signal of a 240p upscaled game still, just not upscaled on the TV itself then. It's going to be ass either way.

>>12482309
>You're going to output a 1080i signal
Are you?

>>12482313
Well, as said in this thread before, most modern GPUs usually don't support interlaced anyways. So depends.

>>12465580
>composite
there's no composite on that board you're full of shit

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>>12482791

>>12483446
I see it now. But you're still full of shit

>>12479586
>It shouldn't be hard to indulge a stupid lazy child
I guess it can't be that hard if your parents do it all the time. But no one here has to do it. In fact it's discouraged.

How much difference will there be between a cheap HDMI-AV converter and actually using a GPU with analogue outputs?

>>12484616
For old console emulation? Nothing.

>>12484616
I guess there's no input lag or downscaling.

Most people have an old Wii or PS3 laying around and it's piss easy to get CFW running on them. If not, get a Mister. It's really simple to get s-video out of it with just a passive adapter and cable, but beware that it does look a bit too clean compared to the original consoles.

>>12483916
>child
I'm almost 40 and have more in life than you'll ever achieve.

>>12468172
Does it have to be an AMD because I'm not sure if that'll play nicely with my nvidia 1080 ti gpu. I've seen nvidia cards with vivo but I'm not sure which I should get. Is CRT emudriver required to get it working or should it just be plug and play?

>>12485343
You can put multiple gpus in systems just fine

>>12477886
if you get a job now it's not like you have to stay there forever... besides, when better positions come up, they're going to ignore your application if you have a big employment gap.

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>>12485461
that anon isn't me lol
I got a job at Amazon so I went ahead and ordered a NVIDIA GeForce 9400gt for $16 bucks. Hopefully the install goes smoothly and I can toss out my converter box soon. Or maybe I'll keep it around just for my laptop idk.

So do those DP/HDMI to VGA dongles work or not?

>>12486025
Not for a 1:1 accurate experience.

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>>12485251
>WAHHHHH
>i have more angst, deluded sense of self importance, and desperate need for validation from strangers on the internet you'll ever achieve.
Very true, my sad little child. Very true.

>>12486392
Seems like a lot of projection

>>12486371
But they can output a 15khz signal?

>>12469664
Because CRT is objectively superior technology.
If we had 4k CRT Tvs even you retarded zoomers would have to admit that its OBJECTIVELY BETTER.
The only reason lcd has any relevance is because they stopped making crts.

>>12486501
Of course not, they are cheap dongles

>>12486398
>no u
>said the almost 40yo child
lmfao

>>12487572
Whatever you say kiddo

>>12484953
I will be getting an HD capture card finally so I can finally capture NES footage from both Wii and OG NES so we can see how the NTSC Composite looks like, for NES I prefer the original

Can you use dual gpu set up for this?
so a modern card for some displays and rendering games and an older card for the vga out to your CRT TV?

>>12489631
Like I said in the OP my TV only has component. But I have a GPU on the way with a vivo port that should work.

>>12467005
no the jews just broke it mate

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>>12489712
I hate jews

>>12466985
>vga to scart
can this blow up my tv if the pc feeds it the wrong mode/resolution?

>>12464609
OP just buy a mister. It plays pretty much everything up to the N64 and PS1, you get lagless inputs through the snac, and all the lag you're going to get from emulation on PC is gone, and believe me regardless of how fast your PC is the lag IS there and why even tolerate that if you're going to jump through so many hoops to get analogue video out of your PC. What is the point?

If you care enough to play retro games on a display they are best suited for you might as well eat the whole penis and buy a mister so you can pirate entire game libraries onto an SD card for like 30 systems and not have to fuck around with aging real hardware except for the controllers; if you have a mister and you are playing on a CRT why are you not using the snac ports? Why are you tolerating the USB lag? Stop being stupid.

Anyone telling you to do anything else is just wrong. There are edge cases where a CRT emudriver/batocera setup might be better but that's limited imo.

The ONLY reason to have a CRT Emudriver set up is so you can pump analogue video into a HD CRT TV via VGA>Component/Scart or if you're lucky VGA >VGA. There's no other reason. And even then that's just a perfunctory measure to get the lag down to the absolute minimum for a TV that will definitely have some lag, but also if you are playing games that require a non-VGA gpu to render them then also you might as well not even have a CRT emudriver set up for that because rendering on a main GPU and sending out via your VGA gpu is laggier than just using a decent HDMI > Analogue adapter.

>>12489812
People have said so but having messed with CRT emudriver and sending all sorts of bullshit to my TVs I've never done any damage to them. I'm sure there's truth to it but.

>>12489954
The difference is you can have a great emulation PC for free/no extra cost. A Mister is gonna cost you hundreds of dollars.

The best way is to ditch windows altogether
https://silosneeded.com/en/2025/11/pc_crt_guide

I tried to do this but then I realized my free PCI-e port is blocked by the modern GPU. And the other PCI-e has a wifi-card. So I'd have to get some riser cable, which itself is a nightmare to find in the correct size and shape since it'd have to be a 90º bend, and I don't even know how I would sit the wifi-card in place if I were to do that.

So as retarded as it is, I have a VGA 2 AV adapter and a Radeon HD4550 that I bought that I can't even try out because I'd need to give up my wifi (no I don't wanna use usb dongle crap)

The lesson? Dont' buy a motherboard with a PCI-e that sits right below the main PCI-e

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>>12487582
>N-N-NO U!
lol

>>12490005
God looking forcing that PC to do 240p, on Composite, FOR REAL!, WITH REAL EVIDENCE!

>>12489954
>OP just buy a mister. It plays pretty much everything up to the N64 and PS1,
Strike one, you're out. I wanna play PCSX2 over composite.

>>12489954
>just buy this two hundred dollar device

>>12489954
>ask how to do this specific thing
>erm just do totally different thing

>>12489954
>The ONLY reason to have a CRT Emudriver set up is so you can pump analogue video into a HD CRT TV via VGA>Component/Scart or if you're lucky VGA >VGA. There's no other reason.
Watching DVD backups in a way that doesn't look like shit
Playing old PC games
Those are reason enough

>>12491076
>I wanna play PCSX2 over composite
Hello the PS2 is the highest selling console of all time and it's very easy to pick one up for cheap and get a HDD mod for it. Emulation is still bad! You can't get an adapter to plug a PS2 controller into the PC and get pressure sensitive buttons, if you want to enjoy pressure sensitivity you have to use a dualshock 3, which has the worst triggers ever conceived, with a USB polling rate of 100ish hz. 10MS! 10 MS OF LAG JUST FROM THE CONTROLLER BEFORE IT EVEN GETS TO THE EMULATOR.

>>12491085
Sorry bro but if you want to do things the best way then that's just what you've gotta do.

>>12491094
When one option clearly trumps another you just have to accept it.

>>12491098
Quite literally the only reason I even still have my CRT emudriver box is because I already had it before the Mister got good and because Mistercast has fairly limited bandwidth so I can't get it to push 883i to my panasonic.

If you're watching actual ripped DVDs there's no reason you could just pop them into a PS3 or something. As far as old PC games go you're either building old hardware or using dosbox in which case why even bother with a VGA card you can still pump out chunkymode from a modern card and a HDMI to VGA will take it without any scaling + the lag from it is minimal. Eventually a mister project will replace that on a bigger FPGA - hopefully, bit optimistic maybe - but for now just downloading exodos and pumping 640x400@70 to a VGA monitor with an adapter is pretty good. Only bother with a VGA there if you really want to get rid of the 1ms of lag the adapter will introduce.

>>12491076
>PCSX2 over composite.
Now you've gone full retard. Pick up a fat PS2, get a network adapter and an HDD/SSD.

>>12491363
retro gaming is about doing shit as cheap as possible, getting all that expensive trash is reddit and youtuber tier slop.
no, im not paying 200 shekels for a scaler.

>>12491402
>retro gaming is about doing shit as cheap as possible
Not for me, I want quality and I want convenience and access to a wide variety with minimal hardware.

>getting all that expensive trash is reddit and youtuber tier slop
no reddit trash and youtube slop is having a wall of rotting discs and dying carts that you never play
I own nothing and play everything

>im not paying 200 shekels for a scaler
No but you'll pay $30ish for a VGA card off ebay and then another $60usd for an active VGA to composite adapter made by some guy in New Zealand. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174151197805 (this is the best adapter money can buy btw if you're looking to get composite out of your PC into a CRT TV which is what our PCSX2 friend is after)

You'll also have to decide if you want to run this on your main gaming PC which means you'll have to flick back and forth from windows test mode, because have fun playing modern online games with that on, or maybe set up batocera on a USB and boot into it when you wanna play your retrogames.

>>12491363
>there's no reason you could just pop them into a PS3 or something.
Then I have to copy the DVDs to the ps3 or set up network share. My PC can rip DVDs, blu-rays, download torrents and everything else I need right out of the box. PS3 also struggles with mkv files.

>>12491434
>PS3 also struggles with mkv files
It does and it's pretty much the last hurdle to get around that CRT Emudriver does end up being the best option for.
You can try transcoding from your PC, but I hate it - especially for subtitled content - and I've tried to fire large file sizes through it that just refused to play and just crashed my PC - despite having 64gb of ram and a fast cpu.

For now that's the only reason I'm still using my CRT emudriver box, as I've previously said, but I'm always on the look out for alternatives. I was kind of hoping the Wii U - being a bit newer than PS3 and the last console with analogue out via component - would have some potential but unfortunately no.

There's nothing in the pipeline on mister for a media player capable of playing modern video files and I doubt anyone is ever going to take that on. Mistercast, for what it's worth, works, but I don't think it's optimal and past SD NTSC/PAL it doesn't seem viable at all. Also the guy who made it fucking died so there's no updates forthcoming so it is what it is.

>>12490732
Yeah this is the biggest issue a lot of (sorry to say) retards that build PCs these days since pc building has become so popular have. A motherboard should basically be the second or third most expensive part of your build every time, but people always skimp out on it thinking it's irrelevant beyond pushing their shit into it. Get the high end chipset, get the extra features, get the extra PCI lanes and ports, everything you can manage within your budget. Or later on you're gonna be fucked.

Guys is it fine to leave my CRT plugged in if it's off? It's worked flawlessly for many years now but I want to make sure I'm taking care of it.

>>12491363
>>12491383
PS2s go for 100€ where I live, and it's going up fast. I think in 1 or 2 years it's gonna be 150€ Maybe you can afford that, I can't.

>>12491482
The mobo's been good to me, I just wasn't thinking about CRT Emudriver when I bought the PC. And I always heard that the onboard wifi in motherboards is crap. Buying microATX was definitely retarded though. But at the time there wasn't much else on offer

>>12491814
It's not about thinking about crtemudriver it's just in general your mobo should be ready to be expanded upon and fully featured. Also yeah, microatx is fucking terrible unless you're trying to be aesthetic in a space for some dumb reason. Only AMD chips for onboard wifi sucks Intel is great also I bet most people bitching about onboard wifi don't even plug their antennas in and wonder why their bluetooth sucks. You can swap them anyway they use m.2 slots. Also usb wifi adapters are fine PCI wifi is so 2007 Vista era type shit lol.

>>12491695
Do you think we all just unplugged our tvs 20 years ago when we were done watching TV? Lmfao.

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>>12491695
>i have been alive for many years now
worst.larp.ever

>>12491363
>llo the PS2 is the highest selling console of all time and it's very easy to pick one up for cheap and get a HDD mod for it. Emulation is still bad! You can't get an adapter to plug a PS2 controller into the PC and get pressure sensitive buttons,

>>12491363
>pressure

Actually this has been out for a long time. The Bliss-Box adapter lets you use ps2 controller with pressure buttons.
Bliss-Box.com

You can see it work with their APITOOL software. and its open source sodftware.

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>>12492454
Yeah I hadn't heard of that. Okay for $47usd (dunno about shipping) you can connect 1 PS2 controller to your PC. So that + the $60usd for the active composite adapter + the actual purchasing of a PS2 controller assuming you don't have one whatever that will cost + 20-30ish usd for a VGA radeon GPU to slot into your hopefully existing extra PCIE slot you can finally play PS2 games via PCSX2 on your CRT TV.

I bought a PS2 two years ago for $85usd and it came with 3 games (that I sold for $5 each I can't remember what they were) 1 controller and it had the svideo/composite AV cable AND the HDD adapter - but I admit that was a lucky find. It's just so easy to find PS2s for cheap I just cannot believe anyone would choose PCSX2 over it. Just sit on ebay for a while and grab a PS2 with a dead disc reader for next to nothing and get the HDD adapter for it.

The Bliss Box thing looks cool though I might give it a gander for modern game applications. Lots of modern platformers would feel a lot better on a SNES controller.

>>12492526
Honestly I wouldn't even worry about using playstation controllers when the 8bitdo pro 3 exists.

>>12491363
>replies to entire thread
>embarrasses they/them self to entire thread
many such cases

>>12492526
>I got one for $85 I admit I was lucky
>grab one on ebay for next to nothing
So which is it? Contradicting yourself
I don't use Ebay that shit is a hassle, don't wanna deal with the price of shipping which is probably as much as the console.
Also I have PS2 games myself so I would never buy one with a dead disc drive