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/crt/ has fallen...

>>12491430
I will soon switch over to a scaler. I am sick and tired of owning a crt. As nice as my sony trinitron is still is, it has no place in this day and age. Its time to let go and I advice you guys do the same.

>>12492521
fuck you satan you'll never win

>>12492532
what the fuck do you want me to tell you? most of the people here are boomers and we all had DECADES to experience retro games. if you havent by now you are probably not really intersted in this hobby to begin with. be honest with yourself.

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I mentioned this a couple weeks ago but only got around to taking care of it recently so I'll post some results. I bought a 19" NEC VGA monitor off ebay (yeah yeah I know, but I've been looking around locally for ages and there's never been anything). So naturally, the thing got completely fucked up in shipping. The seller didn't take the swivel stand off the bottom, so when the shipping company tossed it around, the bottom got pushed up and completely shrekt the motherboard. Luckily the board is single-sided and sits within a sturdy metal frame, so I used contact cement to bind the cracked parts back together, drilled a few selective holes to prevent hairline cracks from spreading, scraped away the solder mask and bridged all the broken traces. It's hard to explain just how fucking small some of these were just from the pics. I had to use tiny copper strands and I was basically working blind in a few places where everything was so close together, but I checked everything and nothing is shorted or bridging where it shouldn't be.

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>>12492590
First attempt putting everything back together, the monitor powered on but nothing appeared on screen. I didn't want to give up so I disassembled again and reflowed all joints on the entire board. This time when I tested it it worked. Mission complete. Thing looks absolutely beautiful.

>>12492494
These threads now are full of shitposters who actively try to discourage honest posters from participating.

Also I did get a full refund on the broken monitor so this did turn out to be free, except of course for the time spent fixing it, which was substantial. But I enjoy tinkering and fixing things so that's fine.

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We are so back. Here are a couple TVs I got recently.
First is a Panny 13" tiktok mommy special. Surprisingly good geometry. I didn't touch it.

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>>12492608
Second is a KV-27V42 which is disassembled for new caps and a component mod. Composite and svideo look good on it though.

>>12492596
we're in the post ironic period of /vr/, the discussion is so bad nobody puts effort into their posts or takes pride in how they communicate

>>12492521
>it has no place in this day and age
This day and age is gay and retarded and i will continue to use what has always worked perfectly.

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>>12492590
>>12492595
Wow, that is commitment. Nicely done.

>>12492521
Ooooh a trannytron. Now wonder you're ending it all.

>>12492648
here they are: >>12492868

>>12492596
What did you expect from post hack 4chan, it all trannies talking to bots and other trannies and everyone is caught in between them flatulence.

>>12491430
FUCK those little sonys are so nice

>>12492596
that's a lot of the board now unfortunately. just a lot of shitters doing le epic nihilistic troll 4channer larp, accusing everyone of being jewish or a tranny or brown, and discouraging any poster who's sincere.

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Managed to pick up a 27 inch sony PVM-2730QM for 350 bucks. It needs some tweaking and probably some new caps but even now the color and brightness just outlcasses my regular set. Ive already ordered speakers for it

>>12492595
nice save anon

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I needed another crt like i need another hole in my head, but fuck me, i cant say no to a little bitch like this for 20 bux. I really like using them for nes and turbografx stuff. May try and do a video out mod on an extra gameboy as well and would probably be nice on a mono set like this.

>>12493013
For shits and giggles, at a local auction i bid 100 on one of those super tiny pvms, like smaller screen size than what i just posted, and i still didn't win it.

>>12493013
Impressive, very nice. Those larger PVMs seem like the best of both worlds. Usually there's a tradeoff between having a large consumer set suitable for couch gaming vs a high quality pvmeme that's often only good for a desk. With that you get both, i wish the larger sets were more common

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>>12491430
Dude, just emulate the games, nobody cares for bad TVs anymore.

>>12492851
ah johnny bravo, a true classic

>>12493194
I'm emulating them on my bad TV

>>12493194
I prefer my games without input delay.

>>12493194
>boots up chinkheld
>earthbound.sfc
>new game
>take pic
>put back in drawer

Do you handheld cucks actually play games on these things?

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>>12493025
20 dollars for a crt is a good deal for sure. Even if you don't want it you could probably resell for profit pretty quickly.

I've got a smaller one as well that I got on ebay like 7-8 years ago for about 30 dollars after shipping and it sells for like 100+ now, pretty crazy.

>>12492596
Yeah it's been really weird having a dude come in every thread berating CRTs.

>>12493013
Bout 350 is a steal. Post pic in a game

>>12493617
Think about how pathetic his life is to do that in every crt thread. Sad

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>>12493638

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I just got my first CRT after 20 years
I'm too lazy, so pic from crtdatabase to illustrate the model I got

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVOyZ8rsP-c

Boomer CRT autist takes issue with 'the kids' calling them "CRTs"

Is it better to replace caps before they potentially go bad, or just let them fail and then replace as necessary? I have a Philips 27PS55 that's about to hit its 21st birthday soon.

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guys I broke into the crt hq and I stole the schematics

we can rebuild them

>>12493929
wtf I think they backtraced me and blocked the schematics from being reposted

>>12493852
i have this little nigger myself, it's top of the fucking line, hook some s-video and component consoles up to it and cum buckets.

whats the best 20 inch crt to look for? I have a good enough monitor atm but I kinda want a bigger screen in case I get back into game collecting again

>>12494302
In terms of consumer sets? Probably JVC d series or wega trinitron

>>12494302
20L5 or D20 BVM. For consumer sets probably the 20FS120

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Ah, I was waiting for a thread like this to ask about my CRT TV.
My Toshiba Face 20" CRT TV with component input suddenly started having issues. At first, they would gradually recede after powering on, and it would operate normally after some time. But now it just stays as pic related. The affected region is now also bigger than it was before.
The image is not only displaced downwards on the screen (there is a dark bar/region on the top of the screen), but the topmost lines, just below the dark bar are showing some artifacts, as if they mirrored upside down and fainter than normal.
I've read it could be failing capacitors?
I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks, anons!

>>12494447
It most likely needs maintenance by a professional.

>>12492595
Oh shit, thanks for the update anon. I remember your earlier posts. Great work fixing that shit man.

>>12494302
Just find a late 2000s 20" that has as many inputs as you can.

>>12494837
Well not TOO late because the HD CRTs are no good for our purposes. Early/mid 2000s

>>12495080
What if I only want to play 720p compatible Xbox games :^)

I'm the anon who made >>12464609
My GeForce 9400gt finally arrived in the mail and when I install drivers for it it works but it seems to uninstall or break my Titan Xp driver. What do I do?

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>that guy I sold my CRT just relisted it on facebook for triple the price

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>>12491430
Saw a local listing that had this massive beast for sale

>>12495165
damn nice

>>12495165
that thing must have cost a fortune back in the day.

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>it's another "left the Wii in 480p mode without thinking and thought my component CRT died again" episode

>>12495146
Give him a negative review

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>>12495127
Get a plasma TV. They're practically free.

Thoughts on truflats

>>12495682
There are enough JVC and Sony tvs to wait it out and get one of those instead unless the RCA is free.

>>12494418
naw I live in california and people are asking way too much for BVM's/PVM's I'd probably just settle for a consumer model

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>>12495146
Report the post

>>12495694
It's honestly a shock you can find them for sale in your area. I own both and live in Atlanta and I've only seen one of each the past 4 years.

That said I have a D-Series and a trinitron as well and they look stunning over component.

>>12495502
>>12495502
I don't care that much but selling anything video game related is a huge pita with ghosts or fags kvetching about at my price (usually about 70% pricecharting) or some shit about condition not being immaculate on 30 year old kids toys. I seriously doubt he's gonna get $200 on a 20 year old trinitron anyways.

>>12492596
the whole site is like this now. conspiracy? perhaps, but you MORONS forgot the most important rule: DONT FEED THE TROLLS. IDIOT.

>>12495709
You'd be surprised at what people will pay for these things.

>>12495696
>It's honestly a shock you can find them for sale in your area.
It would make sense there are a lot of PVMs in California. Many production houses out there, lots of TV stations too.

>>12495578
Not in my country because people think "plasma" is just what every flat TV ever is called. Makes it impossible to find real Plasma TVs.

I changed some values in the service menu and now it won't turn on anymore. The screen goes black and then it shuts down by itself.
I'm a dumbfuck

I have an old AMD GPU that I used for CRT Emudriver, but I switched to Bazzite. Does Emudriver still work on Linux? Or so I have to install a dedicated OS like Batocera? I mostly want to play PS2 and Dreamcast games.

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My Philips 107E6 got stuck at 640x350 for some reason. it USED To work fine

The computer can use any resolution/mode but the CRT remains in 640x350, it just doesnt change modes at all. I tried unplugging it and plugging it back, restarting the PC, etc

I changed to a bENQ CRT for now and it works perfectly so im rulling out computer/adapter issues

Is it dying?

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>>12493926
I have one of those Philips too. Nice tv, didn't even have to touch the service menu.
You'll get different answers depending on who you ask. You could also do a partial recap of the ones more prone to failure in the power, deflection and video drive circuits. That's what I'm doing on my Sony currently.

noticed some problems with my Iiyama CRT (Vision Master Pro 1413)

1 - its vertical shift is a bit off until it warms up for 5 minutes or so
2 - my PC won't recognize it as a second monitor unless I turn it up simultaneously with PC
3 - image becomes dark and wobbly and then turns into a blackscreen if I don't touch anything on the monitor for like 10-30 minutes (this doesn't happen with Optimize Picture Quality function ON, apparently)

any advice?

I'm vaguely considering connecting my old TV (a Philips 14PT1363/01) to an old PC (circa 2010) I plan to refurbish. Mostly for PS1/SNES-era gaming. Is it worth it?

>>12496339
1 sounds like an old capacitor that changing capacitance into what it is supposed to be as it warms up.
2 sounds like a grounding issue, ground both sides if you can.

No offense to plastic box collectors, but I'd rather run retro games on my Switch OLED than a CRT monstrosity. The image quality and color depth are unmatched, and for 2D games handheld mode usually suffices. Good day plastic collectors.

Imagine coming into a thread to say you don't like said thing. So fucking weird.

>>12497665
>Imagine having a dissenting opinion on anything
How many Covid masks are you wearing now? 2?

>>12497708
No one cares if you're opinion is different. It's going out of your way to say "hey look I don't like this!" also wearing a mask regardless of covid is just being sincere to not getting people sick. Of course all those mouth breathers who couldn't wear a mask to not be an asshole suddenly can cover their face to kidnap people so that's neat.

>>12497769
>Diaper face seething at any form of dissent or wrong-think
The best NPC

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>>12497138
It will only cost you $8.99 to find out.

>>12497559
Your oppions are wrong and nobody likes you.

Okay, guys...
I got two TVs so far: one has color convergence issues, which was giving me a headache; the second, green color problem (too much green over red and blue).
I'm very upset.

>>12497875
service menu

>>12497859
>CRT looks better than OLED
This is delusional.

>Nobody likes you
I'm not here to please mankind, but only my Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

>he thinks hes unique and special

>>12492595
I wish I had the patience and energy to do something like that. Just the thought of replacing capacitors is overwhelming for me nowadays. Great job.
>>12492494
These threads certainly were a lot more fun a decade ago. The fact that CRTs have become even more of a meme in that timeframe has resulted in more sour grapers and fewer newcomers to show off their acquisitions and repairs.

>>12495578
How does plasma compare to OLED? My mom had a plasma but I never really watched anything on it.

>>12497441
>sounds like an old capacitor
should I be concerned about this? It works just fine otherwise

>>12497854
I was more curious if someone had tried it out with satisfactory results, but fair point, I'll give it a shot.

>>12497991
Are CRTs becoming cost prohibitive for people now? I got in 5 years ago and it was free.

>>12497890
Jesus usually loves everyone, but you are the exception.

>>12498518
No.

>>12497138
What inputs does the TV take?
I have a 14 inch Philips with RGB scart, I used a Ryzen 3200G and a VGA to SCART sync converter and it just works after you set 240p or 288p in custom resolution utility. Doing it that way looks infinitely better than one of those cheap HDMI to composite converters.
What does your old PC have inside?
Id really like to know if you get the TV working with an actual GPU as I cant do that so far.

>>12497708
>>12497852
>covid era facebook boomer insult
grim

>>12499129
What's worse is how on point and correct the chud was.

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How fucked is this?

>>12499432
If that's just a smallish consumer set it's fine

>>12499432
What happens if you turn g2 down?

>>12497879
TV 1: Unable to fix the color convergence issue through the service menu. Beyond usage... It gives me a headache. Too much color bleeding
TV 2: Fixed the green color discrepancy.


>>12499490
No such option in the service menu.
No other issues besides low brightness. So, I had to crank up the bright related settings in the service menu. Even so, TV 2 picture quality looks great.

>>12499624
I meant adjusting the flyback potentiometer (g2)

>>12495915

Emudriver was made only for Windows to force it to output super low resolutions. Windows used to be able to do that but it stopped being supported with Windows 7 I think. I heard from some guy that Linux can output low resolutions already but I don't know anything else beyond that.

>>12497138

Nah. It's a pain in the ass, especially going down the rabbit hole and doing it the correct way. Even if you optimize everything through much tweaking, it's still not really that great compared to original hardware. And it's definitely pure shit for alot of PS1 games because many games constantly switch back and forth from 240p to 480i. PCs don't handle that well. Just get a mister and call it a day. Everything just works insanely well. Only way I'd recommend doing this is for watching stuff like rare 4:3 anime torrents and it wouldn't be worth it with a small composite only TV like that due to dot crawl being a big problem. Only go this path if you have tweaked-out autism that needs scratching, the payoff isn't that great

Whoever posted those webms of Ra running on a monitor at 240p really trolled us

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Why is the D-Series so superior?

>dim spots in the corners of the screen
Is it over for me?

>>12500332
Time to get a degaussing wand

>>12500342
I've been using another tv for that. That doesn't seem to be the issue.

>>12500351
pics?

>>12500354
It's pretty much just a standard discoloration corner you'd see with purity issues but it's just dim or looks like a small shadowy spot rather than warped colors.

>>12500326
>tattoo
you are literal human trash.

>>12500435
oh shut up you little twerp

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>don't use PVMs and RGB! Games were built to be on pieces of shit hardware!

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>>12500326
awesome setup and CRT. i never got into Halo beyond playing at friends' houses but have been interested in getting an original Xbox since i never had one. we used to play Blood Wake a lot

>>12500636
only true for 8-16 bit era games that are heavy reliant on composite artifact colors blending

>>12500636
Such monitors were used for visual fidelity during the development process to avoid discrepancies.
Once the game was done, they had to adjust the graphics output parameters accordingly to the ordinary consumer TVs.

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>>12500971

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>>12500636
Most devs didn't even use this shit.

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>>12500986
Literally the same time and studio. Do you know what that is on the right?

>>12500989
Do you know what that is on the left that he's actually using for game development?

>>12500997
The actual game is on the right anon....

>>12500636
PVM's aren't for consumer use though, these were meant to be played on CRT's. They used PVM's in development to see what it looked like on the highest quality signals and picture available but there are stories where the devs didn't also test on a CRT and were shocked at how shit it looked because they didn't properly develop the game. Not trying to make this an argument for PVM's but the games were intended and designed for regular CRT's.

>>12501000
You're not cute anon.

>>12501003
>You're not retarded anon.

I know.

>>12500326
the CRT's soul is contained in the bulbous screen

and D-series are bulbous with component

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hello anon-kun may I come to stay with you? I promise I wont get in the way. Nobody cares about me anymore :(

>>12493194
that looks disgusting plsve trollin fatty

>>12501181
what a hag

>>12500997
A PC monitor? Lmao

This CRT vs PVM debate is so incredibly stupid because you guys are actually debating cables. What, you think a PVM always displays crystal clear RGB-like picture no matter what, even with an RF signal?

>>12501491
I've pointed this out multiple times. The problem is the anti PVM people are retarded and don't understand the difference that actually matters is shit like shadow mask, dot mask, aperture grille, etc. All tvs are gonna look different and a shitty quality cable is pointless.

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>>12493194
This^

But just run the games on Switch OLED for maximum beauty, comfort and fun factor.

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>>12501631

>>12501631
>>12501631
its upscaled on the Switch, plus the oled colors just pop out so well. Makes the native version on CRT look like this >>12501747

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>>12501760
>t. zoomer who have never used a CRT

>>12501772
I grew up with crts, so glad those monstrositys are gone

>>12501775
monstrosities that deliver the best output imagery for retro gaming

>>12501775
They aren't gone.

>>12501780
>Best output imagery
That would be switch oled

>>12501791
I have a OLED display and a ''21 CRT
You really don't know what you're talking about.

>>12501810
but do you have a Switch sized OLED?
The compactness (and upscaling) are what put it ahead of normal native CRT displaying

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do you need further proof that CRTs are meme?

>>12501820
>You see this terrible picture I took
Yeah bro, amazing

sorry I'm not going to play GBA, PSP and DS games on a fucking CRT. I'll stick to my handhelds

>I will soon switch over to a scaler.
Okay.

>I advice you guys do the same.
Ragebait.

>>12501820
Left looks infinitely better than the right.

>>12501895
left looks like you have vaseline on your glasses

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>>12501918
Just take better pictures

>>12501813
You really have no idea how CRT works
Go back to /v/ alongside your filthy gaming gadget

Stop giving the shitposters (You)s

I showed my boomer mom donkey kong country on my 83in oled vs the CRT and even she could tell the CRT looked better.

Playing gen 6 and before on anything but a CRT is painful. Same with playing any gen 7 and above on anything but OLED.

>>12502171
I played N64 and Xbox 360 on the same crt back in the day, are gen 7 games really that bad on crt? Did I just not know any better all those games of halo 3 I played with component cables?

>>12502524
Yes Dead rising was notoriously shitty to play with text you could barely read but HDTVs weren't the mainstream until like 2008/9 so you weren't alone.

>>12501956
You have bowing on the right.

>>12502583
>You have
Not mine

gonna recap my pvm. anything in particular i should be looking out for?

>>12502524
360/PS3 were the time we switched to HDMI and flatscreens were more common. Using component was usually not too bad on CRTs but anything less was really bad.

>>12502970
Be sure to replace the capacitors with proper modern equivalents don't replace a filter capacitor with a general purpose one

Best CRT Shader experience right now?

>>12498396
bump

should I replace capacitors ASAP or it's okay as long as they aren't exploding?

>>12503016
Just pick up a CRT. It takes like 5 seconds to find one for $20 on FBM

>>12502970
Look out for me doing the same soon. Are you doing as many as you can? That's my aim when I get to it. I have the red green and blue lines so I'm going to just do as many as I can as I don't fancy doing it again for another 20 odd years

>>12503016
crt-royale or crt-guest

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Hi, I'm messing up some settings and I'm wondering if you can help me. I have my PC connected to my PVM through this chain:

PC > HDMI to VGA adapter VGA to BNC > VSC700 > BNC to VGA cable > 203 rxi > BNC to the PVM.

I got this working once eons ago, but I forgot the connections and settings required. Basically, when I go to Line/RGB on my PVM, it's all wonky and fucked up. I'm gonna reply a few times in a row just to show my pictures I have

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>>12503183
So naturally that's just my default right now as the screen are just color bars to keep the image stable. Here are my VSC700 cables

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>>12503184
And while I understand PVMs are a meme, I got this one a long time ago at a dirt cheap price.

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>>12503189
My last image. These are the settings I have on my 203 rxi. I'm planning on watching Zeta Gundam on this thing at 480i.

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>>12503195
Solved it! Just had to set the VSC700 to RGsB! Changed a few settings at the back of the 203 rxi. Now I just wanna optimize it a bit more. If you guys have any suggestions, lemme know

>>12503016
Wrong thread, but check out the newest version of koko-aio, it's impressive for shader standards.

>>12503183
...why the fuck are you doing all that? Just do VGA out on the PC directly to the PVM through the expansion card or BNC.

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Is there any way to fix this or am I fucked? Not the geometry or the fact that I ran this in 16:9, I just want the color to look normal.

>>12503696
Just give up and never touch things again.

>>12503696
what the fuck did you do

>>12503667
My main problem is that I have a modern NVIDIA card. From my understanding, I'd need an older AMD card with VGA out to do that.

>>12503778
So get one? Your motherboard should have at least 3 PCI slots you can utilize.

>>12503696
needs degaussing

>>12503696
lookin' good

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>>12503789
Just found a different option. Just do it nd this on r*edit. What do you think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/s/4nKCW4jApS

I've attached the guy's custom resolution options.

>>12504029
>Jus found it on Reddit

Fuck it. Now, I'll tell you why I was going through the VSC700. To be honest, I actually lost an old PVM years ago. What had happened was that I connected it to my PF for 240p goodness for a while. It was from my PC to the 203rxi, then the PVM directly. Somehow I fucked up, where I turned my main 1440p monitor off once, before turning off the CRT - and something happened and the CRT turned off and would never power on again. I was told going through the VSC700 was safer, but it basically locks everything to 480i.

This transcoder and its options seem okay though..

>>12503789
Can you use both GPUs at once or does it cause issues?

>>12503696
Degauss it with either a deguassing wand or put it in front of another crt and let them deguass themselves by turning them both on

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Hi anons, I just got my first CRT to use with my PSX and Sega Genesis. I also wanted to expand the possibilities so I’d like to connect a PC to the CRT; but this is where I need your help. The information out there is scattered and confusing, and I can’t figure out what the best approach is.
My PC is a laptop with both HDMI and VGA outputs, but I’m not sure which one I should use or which is preferred. I’ve read that HDMI can be used with YPbPr converters (like pic rel) using a super resolution. I understand why that works, but what I don’t get is why these converters don’t alter the signal the same way those cheap HDMItoAV “white box” converters do (pic rel) which seems to force 480i no matter what. Can you enlight me in this aspect?

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my baby

>>12492521
I would not do that, not as long as motion induced blur will still be a common thing on newer monitors.

>>12504282
Both, one just handles the output the other you select as the gpu in your software for rendering.

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>>12504918
>>12504980

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>>12504918
>>12504980
>>12504986

>>12504918
That's a nice looking set

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>>12505031
MX8000 only available to rich cunts back then, now they’ve all upgraded to whatever is the status symbol of today and these TV’s can be used by sweaty gamers as God intended

I took out our very first family PC from the attic. I found some family pictures from 2003 and 2004.

From what I see, using Windows XP for online is near impossible now.

I'll be getting HDMI and Display Port to VGA converter for CRT monitor. I'm not sure if I'm going to connect it to my PC when I want to play classic games (since that's what I'm mainly playing right now, and it does take a lot of space) or if I'll use my Steam Deck to play games natively or use Moonlight to stream games to it in another room. Anything I need to know?

>>12504751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mrmh1Bc1hA
This might help

Why the fuck are teenagers so retarded these days? I see some of the dumbest fucking questions now lmfao.

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>>12505001
>>12504986
>>12504980
Philips tube chads

>>12505060
if you have the dolby digital surround inputs then the next steps are
>beolab 2 subwoofer
>beolab 8000 pair
then either
>a) poorfag beolab 6000s for the rear speakers
>b) beolab 8000s mk2 for front speakers
>c) elitefag 8002s for front speakers

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>>12503993
>>12504342
are these cheap degaussing wands from china good enough? I also have plates and screws in my wrist, should be fine, right?

>>12506157
I have no clue. I just put two CRTs in front of each other and let them degauss themselves when I need to degauss them so if you have another just lying around, you can do that as seen here. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nt220HD_OPM In theory that stick should work. I'm not sure if it will react to your wrist though. It worked for this dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezzp-TP79U

>>12496014
Can you or anyone explain to me this grid meaning?
My tv also crops some of the orange (using those test suites roms), is it ok? Or all of them should show?

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>>12506157
Kind of, I got one but was unhappy with he results, then it promptly broke and I returned it for a refund. Ended up getting a 'vintage' 9317 coil on ebay. Those things work great. You can also make your own if you're handy.

>>12506197
Its just a way to see how warped the image is or isnt.
Overscan is normal but some people adjust it to have less overscan or even underscan.

>>12506167
this sounds like a dangerous tranny smith shitpost that can cause an horrific accident, thats how bad this website has become.

>>12506197
You generally want some overscan, which is usually adjustable in the service menu or with pots. So yes, it is normal for the red part of the grid to be cropped.
There's no single answer for overscan though because each input and game console will look different. Game devs knew overscan would vary a lot so they put important elements in what shows as the white part of the grid.

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>>12506574
>>12506791
Thank you, anons. My TV doesn't seem to have a menu to adjust the overscan area, so I was wondering if it's okay to crop a little off those orange boxes.

>>12506594
I don't know what the fuck you just said but I'm pretty sure it's something seeking upboats.

I read online that HDMI to VGA adapters are basically lag-free but I'm consistently getting 20ms slower reaction speed in tests when I use an adapter. Does anyone else have experience with this?

>>12507227
I would suppose it all depends on the actual chip used inside and the documentation on these seems sketchy at best.

>>12507234
Yeah I don't have a way to test a million different adapters but my hunch is that almost any digital to analogue converter will introduce substantial lag. The hearsay about it being lagless is probably some untested metric that people ran with since it's not super noticeable unless you test your reaction speed yourself. I'm just trying to give myself every possible advantage in fighting games so every frame counts. I'm thinking I might have to buy an older GPU with VGA output.

>>12492521
Even if I didn't use my CRT for a few years I'd still keep it tucked away somewhere since I know I'd eventually regret getting rid of it. Plus they are more difficult than ever to find in good condition.

>>12507227
>>12507241
Forgot to mention how I did this testing. I have an ancient laptop with native VGA but it's no good for games. I get around 175ms reaction time going straight to my CRT monitor.
On a newer laptop I run an HDMI to VGA adapter into the CRT and get around 200ms reaction time average, which is at least better than the 230ms time I get on the built in LCD.

>>12491430
As much as I like the smoothness and quickness of crts, fixing the geometry is the worst thing ever. Using a high refresh rate oled and a frame generator is my ideal.

You people are way too obsessed with geometry. 99% of TVs are literally perfectly fine unless someone already messed with settings and fucked it up.

>>12506594
Are you one of those retards who look scared when someone mentions they download torrents? Does Mario 64's empty levels also scare you?

>>12507227
Someone made a big spreadsheet testing many of the available DP/HDMI to VGA DACs. It doesnt address input lag but it basically tells you which ones are shit or not electrically. Unfortunately 4chan thinks the link is spam so i cant post it.
I ended up getting the Moread DisplayPort (DP) to VGA Adapter (version 2) and have not noticed any input lag playing FPS. Not that I would notice 20ms. For $7 on amzn worth a shot I think.

>>12507376
Really depends on the type of warping and the games you play. It can be really annoying in sidescrolling games but unnoticable in 3D

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Partially finished a component mod and recap on my KV-27V42 I picked up for rree. Made me nervous because I'm a noob at following electrical schematics. Needs the wiring tidied up and service menu adjustments but it works. Not a huge difference over s-video but it looks slightly sharper.

if my TV has a green tint is the tube dying? should I start looking for another TV or can it be fixed? I have a JVC 27D305 if it matters.

>>12507791
Is it localized to some area? Maybe you just need a few passes of a degaussing coil

>>12507791
Possible but could also be a component failure or cold solder joint - transistor on the neck board for example. Put up 240p test suite color bars, easier to see what's wrong that way.

>>12507814
its the whole screen, especially apparent in darker colors

is a monitor or TV better for using a Wii on?

>>12508000
Use your ass retard

I need to power on a TV twice to get an image, its most likely the capacitors right?

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How much should I pay for a CRT? What should I look for?

>>12508374
>How much should I pay for a CRT?
$20
>What should I look for?
A free one.

>>12508378
okay where's the best place to find them? Everybody selling them on Facebook or Craigslist want at least 60.

>>12508381
Offer them less

>>12508374
You look for three things, inputs, size and manufacturer.

>>12502970
So update, most caps were in better condition than i thought so it didnt make that much of a difference.

Still im just happy everything worked, i almost thought i had ruined the monitor at one point when the control panel didnt light up and i wasnt getting any video input, but i just forgot to connect one of the 17 cables for the deflection board

>>12509171
I did resolve some sparking under the anode cap and clean the whole thing up at least so thats nice.

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I've had this 24" RCA Colortrak coaxial / RF that I picked up off of the side of the road (it's working and clean) sitting in my closet for half a year now. It's too big to put anywhere and I got rid of the systems that have coax inputs a little while ago. I don't know what to do with this thing.

I know this is the CRT thread, but what’s the best and cheapest comparable alternative for 480p games? CRT prices are skyrocketing this year and even those shitty bedroom TVs with no hookups are going for $200+. Marketplace is also dead. Can anything replicate something similar to a CRT for standard definition content? Is there some unwanted shit out there that’s not being actively scalped? Or is paying $200 for a busted shitbox the only option?

>>12509442
Sell it for $200 as a retro gaming tv to some retard

>>12509485
A TV is like $20 bro

>>12506871

If you're saying it doesn't have a service menu, that seems unlikely. You need a compatible remote to access it with a particular combination of buttons and it should have options to adjust image

How do I get into the service menu of a Philips 21pv237/13? It's a pal vhs combo set. I've tried all the remote combinations I've found online plus all the set+remote stuff. There is a manual in German, but none of the combos I'm seeing get me into real service menu. I need to adjust the geometry. Is it possible I'll have to short pins or need additional equipment?

How do I get into the service menu of a Philips 21pv237/13? It's a pal vhs combo set. I've tried all the remote combinations I've found online plus all the set+remote stuff. There is a manual in German, but none of the combos I'm seeing get me into real service menu. I need to adjust the geometry. Is it possible I'll have to short pins or need additional equipment?

>>12504918
Nice, I had a MX4000.

>>12504029
This was posted a few weeks ago. Basically the same idea I guess.
https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92

>>12509540
They are $200+ on eBay, bro. And marketplace is extinct. I live in a metro area with only 2 million people, we don’t have shit like this here. Are there seriously no other options for playing PS1, PS2, etc. as intended?

>>12510037
Skill issue if you can't find free or cheap crts on fb marketplace. Are you gen z by any chance?

>>12510045
Not him but my area is starting to get depleted too, cheapest ones I can find currently are around $80 and composite only. Not saying it's impossible to find free TVs now but it is getting tougher, it feels like this year the difficulty went up another notch.

>>12510037
You're a retard then. A metro of 2milllion people puts you in one of the top biggest cities in America. That means there's a shit ton of TVs and people and the suburbs and boonies have even more than you think. I'll give you a little tip since you're clearly probably retarded. You need to watch CRT listings like a hawk and constantly 24/7. Every time a good deal pops up if you're not first to message about it then some grifter asshole reseller or hoarder is gonna swoop in first. Also make sure you use all the dumb terms when looking as well "box tv" "old tv" etc. not just CRT. Expand your search area and don't be afraid to tell people $300 is fucking hilarious for a TV and is PVM territory and offer them a comfortable reasonable $50.

>>12510054
The free ones go within 15-30 mins in populated areas so you have to check very often under search terms like "old tv". Doing a one-off search, you're unlikely to find anything good for free. Have to check constantly for weeks and months.
Otherwise pony up the $100 - which I still consider cheap.

>>12510078
You read my mind, haha

>>12510078
Like I said, I'm not him, my metro is about 80k people and a year ago I was finding good sets for <$50 and this year it seems as though that has dried out. I don't want to argue with you, I'm just telling you from my own personal experience that it's getting tougher. I have a full time job and even if I didn't I don't have the autism to refresh facebook tabs all day but a year ago it was an easier market. That's all I'm saying, maybe you live in the land of the free CRTs, but I don't and the pickings are slim here.

>>12509485
I got a PC monitor for like 20$
lookin' good with ShaderGlass shaders

>>12510083
I'd rather pay $100 bucks to not have to browse facebook for months.

>>12510103
it's more like a week, 2 days even if you're lucky.

>>12510097
>my metro is 80k
nigga that ain't no metro, thats a lil village

>>12510097
I get it - it was more of a PSA than directed at you

>>12510103
I found a TV the first time I looked in like 2 days literally down the street from my house. Second time I looked for an old monitor and found one in less than a week.

>>12510108
yes and we're also full of city slickers since COVID so please stop moving here thanks

>>12510117
I would never, I grew up in farm country. It sucks and it's full of retards like you. Now I live in a suburb where every thing I need is less than 5 minutes from my house and there's a huge forest/trail of like 40 acres within my neighborhood.

>>12507227
>>12507241
The DACs in HDMI to VGA adapters simply convert timings from digital to analog, HDMI uses same timing standards just in digital.
They don't have a framebuffer where it waits for a full image and converts it, at 60Hz that would roughly be 16ms, which would be very close to your 20ms. So you're probably using a converter board of some kind instead of a simple dongle, a lot of YouTubers recommend things like that that actually take 480p as input and down-covert, that would make perfect sense with the latency overhead you're getting.

>>12510117
I would never, I grew up in farm country. It sucks and it's full of retards like you. Now I live in a suburb where every thing I need is less than 5 minutes from my house and there's a huge forest/trail of like 40 acres within my neighborhood.

>>12510140
>>12510148
we're not retarded enough to post our dumb shit twice

>>12510156
Trust me it ain't me, 4chan is fucked up and hanging on posting.

>>12510110
You are retarded if you watch listings “24/7” for a fucking TV. It’s not like this with anything else.

>>12510212
he values his time less than a mcwagie

is 4chan kill?

>>12510246
It has been dead for a while but they keep the carcass out there to prevent people from creating a meaningful alternative chan

>>12510212
Never said that. You're confusing posters.

>>12510246
It's like my CRT barely functioning

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>>12510212
You don't need to watch 24/7. FB has a built in notify for your search result as well as there being key times when people post shit.

>>12510218
The nicer your job is the easier it is to fuck off and do random shit with your time dipshit.

>>12510156
>>12510173
pic rel btw

>>12510173
>>12510651
i've had this happening to me over the past few days too. is the site getting DDOSd or something?

>>12510714
>is the site getting DDOSd or something?
It's the power of AI (actually indian) coding

>>12510714
No the mods are just incompetent retards that must've fucked something up when there was down time a week ago
They got doxxed from a pdf upload exploit on one of the boards a while back and the entire thing was a clown show

>>12509556
Didn't know it was possible. If that's the case, I don't know how (I have the remote control though). Afaik is a Toshiba 1467SU, cant find anything regarding the TV besides the picture I've posted.

>>12509556
>>12511586
Found it! Gonna check a guide to understand each option. in the other hand the crt looks good to me, only some parts of the screen gets cropped (mainly using ps2 homebrew, which I guess those are using all of the screen, including the overscan area).

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got this toshiba CRT for free but i cant find any info online, anyone got an idea of the specs of this thing? havent plugged it in yet because the rear was wet
>Toshiba 1721 ES

I understand you gotta use good cables and adapters and stuff like Batocera or Emudriver for 240p. But what if I only want 480p? Mostly for DVDs and PS2 games; would a cheap HDMI2AV converter really be that bad? It should give me the signal I need, I don't see a downside.

>>12512326
It would help if you showed us a picture of the front. Usually the name or make of the monitor is printed on the front like a badge.

>>12512331
No if you're just watching shit it doesn't matter, none of this matters.

>>12512331
>I understand you gotta use good cables and adapters and stuff like Batocera or Emudriver for 240p.
You should use good cables anyways but low bandwidth signals like 240p are actually less susceptible to noise than higher ones like 480p.

>HDMI2AV
>PS2
That does HDMI to composite though, you mean PS3?

>>12512335
Mostly this, just for watching old content it would be fine.

>>12512326
something something lower end SVGA at 17 inches? guessing didn't find anything either
do post front like >>12512332 said

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>>12512337
>>12512332
all it says is "Designed for TOSHIBA"

>>12512341
It's some lower end model, plug it in and see what it can do, once dry.

>>12512336
>you mean PS3
I was thinking of either using my main PC (Bazzite) or my Steam Deck with a PS2 emulator. I have a USB DVD drive for movies.

>>12512371
Decent enough for watching videos, not so good for games but if you don't notice any issues with latency or picture being slightly off, whose stopping you form having fun?

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>pick up a 5 dollar 1983 AT&T tele-text terminal at a flea market
>some screen burn in, but powers on and gives me text on screen, picture kinda faded
>ill leave it on for a bit and see if image improves
>come back later, fucking smoke coming out of the air vents

Main board looks fine, but im not sure i have that large of a death wish as to poke around with the PSU to see whats going on.

>>12512381
probably the rifa cap on the AC line blew
did the CRT stay on?

post a picture of your crt with the word "nigger" displayed on it

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>>12512468
i'll start

Any way to use an old AMD GPU for 240p on Linux? All the links just tell me to use Batocera instead.

>>12512487
Just add the screen modes.

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are you a bad enough dude to spend $70k on a computer screen?

>>12512571
No, because it's not worth that.

>>12497993

Nothing compares to an OLED, but it's not bad. Like an OLED they look best in darker rooms, but the real advantage is you can find plasmas with native 720p which 6th and 7th gen consoles look amazing on compared to blowing up a 720p or even 1080p signal to 4k comparatively. IE: Bloodborne on my 50" plasma at 720p looks better than on the 77" OLED in the same room compared next to it.

Most 720p plasmas will also still accept a 1080p signal for lowtech superscaling which is cool. The only major downside is over time the image will fade as the gasses lose their charge and replacing or recharging them is black magic as far as I know, and they can be a little on the heavy side compared to modern displays.

>>12512890
Bonus point if you have a VHF transmitter in your house, they can usually receive both analog and depending on the model digital TV signals. There's a smidge of latency as it processes analog signals to a digital display though which also applies if you connect a component or composite device as well, just a heads up if you're particularly sensitive to that.