>>3902218
I'm playing through Vesperia for the first time right now, and I just got the arena city. I've tried the other characters, but so far the only character that is fun to play is Yuri, the rest feel incredibly janky (especially trying to hit things with Raven's bow). Am I just retarded?

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>>3902250
>Am I just retarded
Like a little bit? Yuri's definitely the easiest to just go and jump in with. Aside from Rita I guess but like, she's almost a pure caster, she's probably the most boring out of the playable ones. Every character gets better over time as they get more stuff unlocked, but pretty much all of them are workable from the get-go, they just get better.
I could see Raven taking a little bit to pick up, but he's honestly a lot less messy than other archers in the series (Woodrow/Natalia etc.) he is also the best healer you get. Karol I will admit is rough right at the beginning, but depending on your level you should be around the point in the game where he gets some of his really good arts that make him fun Reaper Knock and whatever the Spider Web's Called, so it could be a good time to try messing around with him. You can play Judith on the ground to start figuring her out, and that's serviceable if not amazing - just know that she gets exponentially better as you get more skills that let you do more nonsense in the air. For Estelle I recommend (when playing her directly) thinking of her less as a caster and more as a tanky melee. She can make herself very hard to kill/disrupt and you can go to town on enemies with her directly.
You don't have Patty right at this moment iirc, but you presumably got a taste of her on the ghost ship. Patty's a delight to play, would highly recommend when she's in your party again.
Repede is good at this point, if you want to try branching out he's going to be the most similar to Yuri, and that might be the easiest to go move to.

I'm highly on the side of playing through Tales games as all the different characters instead of just picking one. I think it makes the games a lot more fun and it's where a lot of the depth is - Vesperia's on the better side of things because all the characters feel different from each other, and all of them are pretty fun once you get them going.

>>3902218
I like Vesperia but it does a lot of shit that annoys me like having you need to craft special items in order to do basic actions like play as other characters or change your map character.

>>3902347
you don't need a special item to play as other characters, it's for switching characters mid-battle. Abyss has the same thing, and you get it around the same length into each game.
And the map character is almost entirely cosmetic (there's one bit where you have to be judith for an event to happen when you're trying to get into Myorzo but I think that's it). This one you get automatically too.

>>3902352
>it's for switching characters mid-battle. Abyss has the same thing, and you get it around the same length into each game.
Which is still annoying.
>And the map character is almost entirely cosmetic
It's not cosmetic it's immersive. Being able to play as whomever you want onscreen adds to the immersion. In either instance it's just a step of annoyance that exists purely for it's own sake.

>>3902356
that's not really what immersive means, but you do you I guess. Generally immersion comes about as a result of restraints, not freedoms.
In this case it's pretty trivial either way.

>>3902250
No, Team Symphonia games have trash gameplay. Destiny R and Rebirth are two of the early games where most characters are fun to play. Otherwise, they mage characters only are fun from Graces/Xillia forward.

>>3902356
>jrpg
>immersion
lol

>>3902325
Mikleo is so hot, between him and laphi they really tried to make me gay with the last gen.

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>>3902356
I agree on the immersive angle and do think being able to move around the world as different characters (and seeing NPCs react differently depending on who you are) is important, but I then also like the way Abyss and Vesperia did it where you have to work a bit for the privilege. It's simple enough in both games that only speedrunners are gonna get punished for the next 80 hours, while for everyone else it's gonna be a neat treat and weird little way to do things which is part of the appeal.

>>3902425
>that only speedrunners are gonna get punished for the next 80 hours
Speedrunners wouldn't care about cosmetics tho...? They also would not take 80 hours...

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>>3902485
>anon has post-long context and still believes 'speedrunner' refers to a literal speedrunner and not someone that rushes through a game from cutscene to cutscene without exploring
Autist-kun...

>>3902218
>best healer
Natalia and Gall gruner literally exist

>>3902325
Yaoi! Thank LORD.

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I'm getting filtered man....

>>3902657
What kind of doofus made Iria's romanization Illia in English?

Mitsukete your dream~
(Re?)Started ToP Ps1 this time and its beginning is always so good. The aprite and 2D art work is gorgeous too.

>>3902661
https://github.com/lifebottle/Tales-of-Innocence-R
This is where the translation is from
Illia is certainly a weird choice

>>3902218
Vesperia is so fucking good it makes me sad anytime I replay it knowing tales will never see the heights of it and abyss again

vesperia and abyss aren't even top 5 tales games

Wrong

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I'm about to play this for the first time

>>3902729
Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia 2 and Berseria

>>3902250
No, and ignore the Basedperia fag's wall of text below you.

>>3902757
Congrats anon, once you finish you'll appreciate the other games so much more

>>3902757
The music is top notch

>>3902218
pic not related

>>3902250
i prefer playing as estelle because she plays more like a traditional tales protagonist than yuri and flynn is janky + absent from 90% of the game

>>3902757
enjoy anon

>>3902661
>>3902685
Illia is a real name, Iria is chink gobbledygook

>>3902954
"Ill" is aesthetically garbage especially in that font, and her name is Iria regardless of which one is real or gobbledygook.
"Iria" is also a real name and has more results in a google search anyways.

>>3902761
Replace Symphonia with Eternia.

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>>3902218
Yuri! Thank goodness!

>>3903140
gay

>>3902425
>but I then also like the way Abyss and Vesperia did it where you have to work a bit for the privilege.

it shouldn't be treated as a privilege. It should be something that makes you want to play the game more and when most of the rest of the series will allow with with a menu option out the gate doing it this way is just bizarre for no reason.

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>>3903174
>it shouldn't be treated as a privilege
Why not.
>It should be something that makes you want to play the game more
It's that too.

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>>3903211
Anise cute and sexo!

>>3902218
Every character in Vesperia was insufferable except Yuri. Estelle would be the worst if it wasn't for "I'm always angry at everything because I'm a stupid fatherless dyke"
Vesperia has to be the most overrated game in the franchise.

>>3903257
It has a lot of content and looks good, and you know that matters a lot to videogames. Otherwise, yeah, Vesperia's story and most of its characters (especially the villains) are among the worst in the series.
Yuri carries the game hard. Judith is cool, tho.

>>3902959
>her name is Iria
Except it's not. A quick google search will tell you everyone calls her Illia Animi.
Weird you didn't catch that when you google searched.

>>3903265
lol

>>3903267
Except it is. A quick google search will tell you everyone (who matters, aka the people who made her) calls her Iria.
Weird that you didn't catch that when you google searched.

>>3903282
Eh, same as Cless Alvein and Cress Albane. Second is wrong and sounds awful despite appearing in official localizations (Tales has inconsistent translations anyway, like Amber Hearts in Graces and Kohaku in Hearts R). And so is "Iria".

>>3903291
You're unknowingly agreeing with me. Cless is his Japanese romanization, Cress is the localized romanization. I'm saying the former is what matters, not the latter.

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stg every time I start enjoying Legendia some stupid jank kills my enthusiasm. Like the game forcing you to walk all the way back out of a dungeon once you reach the end instead of just warping you to the entrance.

>>3903415
It's especially brutal in the CQs since every dungeon is a retread to begin with. Salt in the wound.

Hearts R or Innocent R first. I downloaded both on my vita

>>3903527
If you're definitely going to play both, do Innocence first as Hearts makes the battle system even better. If you're only going to play one for now, do Hearts.

>>3903527
Can't go wrong with either one to start with. Unless you can't stand going back to an "earlier version" of the gameplay kinda person.

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Is Sword Dancer one of the coolest ideas for a recurrent hidden superboss in vidya history?

>>3902218
>watching a dude play Vesperia
>has Estelle making making sandwiches
>fails 3 times in a row
>how do you fuck up a sandwich he says
I for the life of me can't find that one fucking comic that relates to this complaint cause it's that old

>>3902757
The main town is top tier comfy

https://youtu.be/iGAtILfmGLs
tldr Int and Dex are good, Alvin and Rowan can enable degenerate stunlocking strats.

>>3903719
Symphonia one is the best best design

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>>3904081
>generic skelly vs demon samurai
Nah

>>3903174
It rewards you for playing the game. If anything it makes you play more.

Like man, people dislike how much is locked behind progress in Vesperia, but inversely it rewards progress like no other Tales. But at the time people were used to not being able to do much at the beginning. These days it seems like newcomers expect to be able to do all kinds of cool stuff from the getgo.

>>3903719
>so much bosses
>so much costumes
I wish the other games had similar content to Team Symphonia titles.

>>3903719
It took me way too long to realize he has Ultimatus on his back in every one of the encounters.

Arise remake when

>Have items
>Healers immediately obsolete

>>3904707
but like... no? And think about your GRADE sis

>>3904707
Treats are way too uncommon to rely on them for party heals. If a game even has them.

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>>3904225
>Vesperia was the last game to actually have a decent amount of in game costume rewards
What a revoltin development this is

>>3904852
I never understood that scene where they try to pimp her out to someone for... something i don't remember exactly. They dress her like a fucking clown while she is basically hot as fuck in every outfit and the sexier is probably her default one. With her body she can make your dick diamond even with a coat.

>>3902250
Judith has the most complicated combos you can perform I think. I remember fucking around with Raven and the kid with the big axe, there's a learning curve but I got the hang of them a bit.

Tales of hebephillia

>>3904893
Most of Judith's combos dont work unless you use her artes enough to be aerial enabled and/or get enough points to unlock all of her relevant skills.
Tough luck for you if you botched the Brionac quest.

Playing through Tales of Graces F right now.
Just got to Ghardia Shaft.
Is this place supposed to be kicking my ass this hard? Every battle at least one party member will die, but I'm also getting like 12k exp per battle.

My only guesses are to grind and massively upgrade my gear but it seems such an odd spike in difficulty.

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Marta is my favorite tales girl.
Symphonia 2 is also a good game, one of my faves for the series

>>3906920
Is symph 2 the one with the fuckable cat? I remember nutting over a neon blue \ white colored cat but i always forget the game. Fuck my memory.

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>>3906926
?

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>>3906926
>>3906927
Probably meant Aqua.

>>3906927
>>3906929
I am at work now but it's more like the second one color coded but i could swear it was more cat-like. When ill go home i'll check.

>>3906314
It takes like 3 minutes to aerial enable something though

>>3904852
The death of having a ton of in-game costumes just so they can sell garbage DLC is one of the worst things about new tales games

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>>3906929
>>3906930
Yeah it was aqua, i don't know why my brain told me "cat" but fuck me i guess.
>>3906927
But thanks for the other cat i'll look if i find some hot stuff on him\her.

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>>3906964
>The death of having a ton of in-game costumes just so they can sell garbage DLC is one of the worst things about new tales games
Tell me about it.

Figured to try a shot asking here: what's the best way to play Tales of Phantasia Ps1 English patch that minimizes the freezing with spells? Playing it on a modded vita but thag still causes that and I'm reading the patch version's not even compatible with POPStarter for the Ps2. Lest to burn it into disc and try that, want to try playing it handheld before I go emulator route.

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>>3907020
Mmm
These ones.
Natalia has really nice options though if I’m being honest - all of them are hits imo

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>>3907037
>Cut Tear’s cleavage outfit
>Give it to Natalia

Its not fair

>>3907043
I love the breasts on women

>>3907064
today, anon wasn't a faggot

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Another thank you to the guy who figured out how to assign unused costumes to other titles in the PC version, Gala Estelle or whatever we call it is killer. I forget how many are unlocked but it seems like the biggest win.

>>3907175
It was kinda stupid that they didn't make that a costume in the base game. Like... they already had the outfit, why not offer it

Reminder Tales of Berseria REDeMASTER exists and its out in few weeks

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>>3907358
hoping for more doujins

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>>3907020
which tales has the best swimsuits? imo it's gotta be either symphonia or abyss

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>>3907449
Sex

>>3907466
you missed her VA's birthday

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>>3907449
>Peony chooses such an indecent swimsuit for Tear she's embarrassed to wear it and goes for the spa's rental suit instead
What did Abyss mean by this.

>>3907526
Tear is pretty much indecent.

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Best Tales of Mana system?

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>>3907540
Rude.

>>3907547
My childhood says TP, my adulthood probably prefers AC.

>>3907559
But that's the truth.

>>3907358
berseria had fucking awful swimsuits
fuck that game it just sucks on all fronts

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>>3907578
counterargument

>>3907559
Still don't know why they ditched it first for a worse Graces system and now with the Berseria/Arise cubes

>>3907547
Innocence R and Hearts R.

>>3907547
Litterally fucking everything that are not the gay cockblocking no fun allowed crystals of bers\zest.

>>3907547
how do you get the Fujishima art on the Battle Status icons in Abyss? I've seen screenshots of it a million times but never actually figured out how to do it

>>3907540
I wonder if the swimsuit she gets in the mobages is supposed to be the actual one she rejected

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>>3907662

>>3907657
Zest is fine.
Bers is a different system that’s massively worse

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>>3907662
>how do you get the Fujishima art on the Battle Status icons in Abyss? I've seen screenshots of it a million times but never actually figured out how to do it
They are pre-release screenshots from before they had the battle icons finished

>>3907703
Didn't also zest have the five\six crystals to do attacks and then wait to refill them?

>>3908122
Nope, game let's you string four attacks/Artes together, and if you want to continue stringing Artes with the same character, you either use armatization or one the character needs a stack 4 Skill (Ekseed).
Even with those two, you still need SC to keep attacking, tho.

>>3907547
Destiny 2 did a good job with giving characters SP & TP regen stats that could be buffed with equips and titles. It was the first game to deviate from the classic TP system, and it's unique in how it pushes a hybrid playstyle where melee characters can back up and cast spells when they run out of SP and vice versa.
I'd like to say just CC with no TP is best, but it also feels very wrong for a Tales game to not have orange gels. TP-recovery cooking recipes also help to make cooking feel more essential.

>>3906964
>It takes like 3 minutes
You need 200 uses to aerial enable an arte and some of them are hilariously expensive relative to Judy's tiny pool. Its far longer than that especially on NG.

>>3908233
the more expensive ones (altered / arcane) only need 100, and like, it's pretty simple to just go pop a bunch of them in one fight, eat food / throw up a tent and be done quick.
And to be fair, this is only if you want to specifically grind them out the moment you get them. You're going to get them just from normal play. (if you're aware of it, you can have the AI judith set to only use artes that you want more usages in and then she'll just build them up for you while you're playing other characters).

>>3908139
You're missing mechanics. For example, you can do a chain blast to restart your combo, and you don't need armatization or exceed for that.
You can also spell cancel for seraph/armatization characters.

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https://youtu.be/OYcpKtftciM?t=80

>>3908471
Highly fuckable meat.

>>3907666
god.

>>3908558
with those digits it's unlikely

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>>3908474
I know right.

>>3909095
No not him what the fuck man.

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>>3909095
I was talking about Mieu you retard.

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>>3910274
I was talking about mieu you retard.

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>>3910274

>>3908474
All the tales mascottes are highly fuckable. I would use teepo as an onahole\cumsock litterally every day.

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If they remade the games following what Arise did would suck all the charm in them. Just port them as is.

You had no idea how much i goon to Tales hebes thanks to Grok. RIP

>>3912494
>unlocking the chibi portraits
Tales of Sovlasia

>>3902325
Why tojo are so afraid of going full yaoi i would play the shit out of it.

>>3902325
Is this game actually bad or do chud pedos just hate it for having implied gay stuff?

>>3912827
The game is bad and boring. I am into yaoi so i don't have hateful feeling on that.

>>3912827
Yes it's bad and whatever implied yaoi people want to argue exists is all one-sided.

>>3912827
I fucking hated the game

>>3912827
pretty shit, gameplay doesn't grow beyond 4 actions

>>3912827
It's got problems, though its probably more hated than it actually deserves. It's still perfectly playable (I like it more than it's prequel - and though I'm unlikely to play either again I'd much rather do Zesteria than Berseria again). The story feels half-baked (because it was), a good chunk of the dungeons are very similar and uninteresting (but not all of them - there's a couple actually good ones which is rare in more modern tales), the camera is notoriously not great which can get in the way during combat, and the item/skills system is - while actually pretty interesting and has a lot of depth in it - 1 extremely obtuse, 2 not necessary to engage with beyond the surface level on a normal difficulty level, and 3 requires a bit of grinding on the higher end of things thanks to the sub-system that controls item drops.
>>3912829
I think Mikleo is actually a pretty good character. Sorey (and moreso how the world of the game itself treats Sorey) kinda annoys me. Mikleo, Lailah, and Edna are all respectable enjoyable characters tho.

>>3913389
okay but that isn't true.

>>3913503
>okay but that isn't true.
explain it to me darling

>>3913503
>It's still perfectly playable
Not in multiplayer where the camera issues become a thousand times worse. Not having separate battle screens is retarded for the series as Zestiria has shown. But it still has a bunch of issues aside from that.

>>3913503
>respectable enjoyable characters
I never spoke about characters. I like mikleo and my dick likes him too. The game is bad because it's so fucking unnecessary long, there are too much "and then nothing happened for hours" the combat system is AWFUL and generally the story is not that good on a narrative term. I am also mad about alisha but thats another

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>>3902218
posting in ebic bestelle thread!
...wait...

>>3913760
Haha... anon you're fucking insane

>>3913762
(haha...)

>Code Vein 2 is censored
Dont even bother to see panties on Tales characters, let alone Lolis and Hebes

>>3912827
It's still better than FFXVI.

Is Gaius x Muzet final fight impossible on Unknown? Because that crazy bitch keeps healing herself to full health.

>>3912827
Bad. Doesn't mean you can't have fun with it, tho. Making broken Skill combinations was fun, despite the grind.
OST and Skits are great too.

>>3915265
when in doubt burn em out

>>3915265
Never managed to do it. Every time she moans my dick goes full erect and i get distracted. That's the real difficulty.

Hmm...
https://github.com/lifebottle/Tales-of-Destiny-2

>>3914603
you have an extra I in your bait

https://youtu.be/xWd-NogS5gI?si=x2Q7AT60VrUgHjfB
So NDX is largely unpopular in Japan.

>>3915885
>So NDX is largely unpopular in Japan.
Specifically by the people who played the original, and because of the unnecessary story and character related changes like Rody or that talking wardrobe.
The rest seems to be nothing but improvements.
Better battle system, more content than the original, pretty well made visually as a 2D game.

>>3914603
not exactly a high bar to clear

>>3914603
>It's still better than FFXVI.

so Zestiria is a good game since XVI was a good game?

Abandon all hope for future Tales games because Code Vein 2 has trannyslators with censored designs

>>3913760
what if they kissed...? haha?

>>3916145
oh, false claims that the location is going to be butchered

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All your Glad please.

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>>3916194
>False claims

>>3916311
how does a quote from a trailer help your argument?

You made a claim and provided nothing to back it up

>>3916324
Check Code Vein thread. Some people already confirmed it

>>3916325
>Check Code Vein thread
how can I check a thread that doesn't exist on /vg/?

and b4 you say "go to /v/" fuck that place. It's more /pol/ than /v/ before I fucked off after the big crash last year

>Some people already confirmed it
you pretending to be multiple people isn't evidence

>>3916326
Suit yourself if you want to be denial about it

>>3916326
Pussy

>>3916326
>and b4 you say "go to /v/" fuck that place
You suggested going to /vg/. You're the pot calling the kettle black.

Tales of Phantasia Cross Edition is out.

https://mziab.grajpopolsku.pl/files/topx/index.html
https://github.com/lifebottle/Tales-of-Phantasia-X/releases/tag/v1.0

>>3918971
Neat

>>3918971
I can't believe this day has finally come and I'm alive.
So, what iso do you apply this patch to?
Wasn't ToPX distributed as a collection type with NDX?
I remember that the one time I tried ToPX it had a menu to pick the game and such.
Is that a valid file, or?

>>3919178
>Wasn't ToPX distributed as a collection type with NDX?
ToPX is different because Namco is stupid and confusing.
There's Tales of Phantasia CROSS which is what this is for; no Rondline.
And then there's the Tales of Phantasia (X) add-on in the NDX game which shoehorns Rondoline in there.

Just in time for me beating the PSX version. Though that version is way better anyway. Thanks to LBP anyways.
>>3919178
Get the original Japanese NariDunX iso. LBP's patch extracts ToPX and makes it its own game to play.

>>3919180
>There's Tales of Phantasia CROSS which is what this is for; no Rondline.
>And then there's the Tales of Phantasia (X) add-on in the NDX game which shoehorns Rondoline in there.
Wow, this is the first time I hear about this.
I thought there were only 2 PSP versions, the FVE and then Cross.

>>3919181
Got it. For now I'll look up a way to convert my chd back to iso because the xdelta patch doesn't like chds.

>>3919182
There are only two PSP versions, that anon is mistaken.

>>3919182
>>3919180
Ah, wait. Fuck.
I was thinking of the full-voice edition.
Rondoline's in Cross/X. Good luck with enjoying her in that.

Theyt added a cheat to reinsert Rody after she leaves the party. Cool for the gameplay aspect.

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Has anyone checked if the good 4:3 cheat works on the latest dev build of PPSSPP?
It doesn't seem to work on my end.
I tried all 3 renderers and even resetting my settings, but nothing seems to make them work.

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>>3919198
Nevermind, I guess it does work, it's just not giving the result that I expected from it.
I'm gonna go with 8:7 Pixel Perfect after comparing them.

>The text is based on the Phantasian Productions localization and as such we have decided not to
disturb it if we didn't need to out of respect for their work.
That's cool and all, but it's honestly jarring when there's voicelines that clearly don't match the very localized-feeling text desu.
Whatever I guess, I'll have to get used to it.

>>3919216
if you spoke japanese you would have just played it in jap anyways

>>3919216
Just play it in Japanese then.

>>3919217
I don't speak Japanese, but I have ears and enough understanding to know what they say.
You tell me if translating a line that is voiced and is comprised of a simple "Ohisashiburi desu." (Long time no see, It's been a long time, etc.) needs an extra "This is a surprise.", or if a line that is voiced as "Wakatta yo." being turned into "Anything for my little sis."
Again, it's stuff I'll have to get used to, but it's undeniably jarring if you like, listen to what the characters are saying and then read the translated text.

>>3919218
I can't read the text, but like I said, I do have ears to listen to the voicelines, which is what I was talking about.

>>3919221
>or if a line that is voiced as "Wakatta yo." (I know, I understand, Got it, etc) should have been turned into "Anything for my little sis."
Ftfm.

Also, I don't mean to shit on the effort that was put into this or anything.
I'll live with it, and I'm glad we can finally play ToPX in english at all.
I'll drop this matter here and now.

>>3919221
>>3919223
The "yo" actually conveys tone, so while it does say "I understand", it's different than just saying "I understand." It's a more friendly way of talking. So you either rewrite it or put a TL note (but then you would need TL notes for every line of dialogue), or you leave it dry and then have everyone say "man Japanese sure is a dull language"

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>60 FPS cheat makes Indignation feel a bit weak in the intro because of the increased speed

Just beat Phantasia PSX last night. It shot up to one of my favorite games in the series. Going back to one of the early versions of LMBS is great. The slower and more positional battle system gives it a very classic feel - you either kill all enemies into one corner or you die getting flanked. I think everyone who gets into Tales should at least play this version. Not to diss ToPX but the sped up battle system doesn't feel as right. With the patch though everyone will go for that unfortunately.

I wish Tales never dropped LMBS or still make 2D games. A bit worried now for the future of the games after Arise and any remake they decide to do.

>>3919438
I think you're going to love D2's gameplay whenever it gets finished. It's the epitome of
>you either kill all enemies into one corner or you die getting flanked.
The system is literally designed around it

>>3919440
Oh I've played and beaten D2 years ago as a teen and still remember that wackiness. I remember being surprised how my SP went to half when I go over he enemy's side of the battle line. What I cannot remember is how I beat Magnadeus. He's the secret boss iirc, but I managed to kill him without knowing much what I was doing.

Are you really playing ToP if Cress isn't constantly out of TP from grinding up arte usage?

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>>3919630
>cress
Not my Tales.

>>3919631
Wait until when you learn about romanization.

>>3919631
Ls and Rs in Japanese are a bitch, you'll learn eventually.

>>3902218
>Yuri
Diddyblud spotted

>>3919354
I'm pretty sure you can get nearest neighbor filtering for the combat sprites as well. PPSSPP has two separate filtering settings. You need to change both from linear to nearest.

>>3919631
Klaus

Its funny that they hype up ougis only for it to be better to spam (Lightning) Tiger Blade because you run out of TP too fast otherwise. Ate a loss to Mayer because I tried to get fancy instead of just spam.

>>3919630
>>3920013
this is why you buy food every time you're in a town and prioritize TP-recovery recipes while you're dungeoncrawling so you can conserve your orange gels for the boss

>>3920215
>Cooking
ToP takes forever to give you TP recovery recipes. IIRC the earliest one isnt until after Maxwell or something. Money is also at a premium for a while because you're spending it on arte books as well.
The first Emerald Ring you get is an absolute godsend for that reason.

>>3920215
>>3920251
Just finished ToP PSX and there are times I had to tell everyone to stop using artes to save TP for the dungeon boss. Thankfully you can spam manual mode jump attack. It does take a while though. Aside from those moments, TP management becomes trivial by the Future part.

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this would be controversial in present year
(it was controversial in 2021 with Arise)
chuds need to touch grass sometimes

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>>3920341
Mary sexo.

>>3920341
No one EVER said something about "black" or "tanned" japanese characters.
The japs draw a white person and then they apply the brown, which brings the best results.
Also if it's hot no one gives a shit.
Now fuck off and go back to /v.

>>3920341
Tanned people are not black. At most, they would look like latinos, not african.

Go back to /vpol/

Go back.

kinda embarrassing that the fans of a series where every second game's whole point is "don't be racist, learn to work together and accept people different from you" is like this.

>>3920476
some latinos are african. A sizable chunk of Brazilians for example.
>>3920421
yeah. Shame she's married
.

>>3920624
Some americans are also black/african, your point? Also, compare people from Niger to Brazil, they look nothing alike.

>>3920631
Look at the big brain on this guy.

>>3920631
sis...

>>3920624
>Shame she's married
I have some good news for you.

>>3920631
like the Latin singer Bad Bunny, American due to being born in Puerto Rico

>>3920631
>they look nothing alike.
Actually

>>3920341
is Garr GAR?

>>3919228
The translate it into "I understand, yo".
There, more accurate to the autists and a localized flavor for the retards

>>3920715
It’s actually Woodrow

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>>3920341
>>3920449
>>3920476
>>3920624
>>3920631
what exactly spawned this pointless conversation? am i missing something?

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>>3921270
Just some dumbass attempting to ragebait a fairly slow thread.
Ignore it. Not worth the effort.
Also Forest sexo.

I wonder if someone will translate the original ToP:ND.

>>3921270
It’s black history month is my assumption.
But yes, people need to calm the fuck down about dark skinned people in general

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>>3921270
Delicious chocolate lolis, what else? Or maybe not. I love meredy, i would marry her in a second.

>>3921408
Is there a wedding dress version of other tales girls? I have an unsatiable lust for wedding dresses.

>>3921316
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/4102/
Sadly it's incomplete.

SWITCH 2 ARISE PORT IS 30FPS, 60FPS CUTSCENES
SCAMCO AT IT AGAIN

>>3921701
Lol how desperate they are?

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>>3921701
This all but confirms that Abyss is coming now.

>>3921710
Someone at Scamco has a hardon for Nintendo right now and I have no clue why

>>3921710
>>3921714
Yes, it's because they are desperate since Nintendo has the largest installbase for the respective current-gen consoles (Switch counted).

>>3921701
Just wait for the paid patch bro.

>>3921714
>Why are companies trying to make up for the money they lost batting for Sony

>>3921701
The more important takeaway from this is that this shows bamco isn't afraid to overlap announcement to release windows.
Abyss remaster likely announced in march/april, release in july/august.
New game announced in june, release in december.

>>3921876
I'd expect Xillia 2 before anything else, just based on the fact that it was already mentioned which probably means it's the furthest along of the unannounced remasters.

>>3921714
>Someone at Scamco has a hardon for Nintendo right now and I have no clue why
Well, they spent like 20 years having a hard-on for Sony, so it was about time they moved on.

People forget that Sony pretty much destroyed their market in Japan with the PS3 and never truly recovered afterwards. Then again, most third-party developers and publishers over there are dumb as rocks and don't know how to appeal to a mainstream Japanese market.

>>3921878
If you're talking about the famitsu interview, I interpreted that as x2 being further away. He said that there were 2 remasters in the final stages, which we can infer >>3921714 are Berseria and Abyss. X2, which was listed separately, was said to be in progress, not almost done like those 2.

>>3921889
>He said that there were 2 remasters in the final stages
I think you're misremembering. He only said that the next one (Berseria) was close to being announced. The other number he brought up was that there were more than 2 in development. Xillia 2 was brought up by the interviewer specifically and he said it wasn't far enough in development to give details on, which means that it was at least far enough to not outright deny it was happening.

>>3921895
https://www.abyssalchronicles.com/news/new-tales-game-tales-of-xillia-2-remastered-plus-two-other-remasters-in-the-works
>we have no less than two titles in the works, from the verification stage to the final stages of development

>>3921899
You don't see how that's different from what you said? "More than 2 in development" is not "2 in the final stages"

>>3921900
"No less than two" includes 2 and "final stages" is right there in the sentence. I'm assuming verification means play testing which is near the final stage anyway.
Either way, Ludger not being on the anniversary poster likely means X2 won't be released during the anniversary, more likely next year.

>>3921911
> I'm assuming verification means play testing which is near the final stage anyway.
Oh see that's where we're driving in different directions, I thought he was casting a wider net and "verification" was something much earlier. I guess it's kind of vague, depends on what exactly they're verifying.

>>3921714
Xillia, Berseria, and Arise remasters within the span of seven or eight months of consecutive releases. If I were to guess Abyss will be sometime in the summer or fall.

>>3921899
Zestiria and Arise

>>3921976
Arise is not part of the anniversary remasters, doomposter

>>3922086
Arise is 5 years old

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Abyss bros, we will prevail...

>>3922319
i rather want a new tales games instead. Or spin off, or anything than a fucking port

>>3922463
seriously
>>3922319
just use PCSX2

Cress > Arche/Mint > Chester > Klarth/Suzu

>>3922696
>Cress

>>3922717
>Cless
>Romanization gibberish
>Cress and Mint
>Our main protagonists are named after herbs

Edna Anal

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>>3922741
If you use Cress you gotta use Claus over Klarth too. I don't make the rules.

>>3922756
I don't have to, because of phoentic jank.

>>3922756
R/L are interchangable sounds. Klarth vs Claus is a completely different kettle of fish when it comes to writing their names via sound.
Because I doubt you use shit like Genius, Refill, Lion, etc.

>>3922767
Symphonia has way too many dad joke names.

A mage who's really smart in school. His name is Genius.

A teacher who's the main healer of the party. Her name if Refill.

A town that gets destroyed. It's called Ruin.

A town full of outcasts. It's called Exile.

The list goes on.

>>3922780
>A teacher who i want to fill with my cum inside every hole litterally every second i see her. Her name is Refill.
Yep you got it.

>>3922767
That's nice, Cless/Klarth and Cress/Claus are still the two official pairs. Not my issue if you're autistic over one name but not the other.

>>3922756
Klarth is kinda fucking retarded as a name

>>3923196
And Asbel isn't?

>>3922756
>If you use Cress you gotta use Claus over Klarth too.
No, you fucking don't.
You don't fucking call クラース/Kuraasu "Claus", that would be クラウス/Kurausu.

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>>3923615
>No, you fucking don't
Yes you fucking do, because those are the two official translations that go hand in hand. If you go with the official Japanese and Phantasian Productions names, it's Cless and Klarth. If you go with the official English names, it's Cress and Claus.
>muh Claus is wrong!
Take it up with the retarded localizers then, and while you're at it show them >>3922756's pic.
>muh Cress is right!
Japan's been using Cless spelled out in the Latin alphabet for 30 years.

Tear best girl

>>3923765
>If you go with the official English names, it's Cress and Claus.
You're going with the names from the game that "translated" Ragnarok as Kangaroo... along with the 4-episode OVA that was REQUIRED to maintain the continuity of that shitty GBA localization.

>>3922756
But his name is Anon Alvein

>>3923777
Well, that and Xillia 2 and as recently as Crestoria. And yes I forgot Crestoria existed as well.

クレス is his name. Japanese uses a blended sound for R/L, so kana like レ, ル and ラ can be romanized as Re/Ru/Ra and Le/Lu/La based on context.

What I imagine this thread to sound like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE154vtGZms

>>3924064
The GBA game ruined everything on the localization side.

Explain how Lightning Tiger Blade became its official translation when it behaves nothing like the Tiger Blade family.

>>3924281
Uhhh because it fits 100%
You get the upswing->downswing motion of the tiger blade, and then it adds lightning to it (usually with the downswing, though interestingly lightning actually starts on the ground and travels upwards in real life - fun fact).
So yeah. Lighting tiger blade

>>3919228
English has multiple ways of saying "I understand" as well. "Gotcha" "Got it", "Understood","Affirmative" "okay", ect, which vary in how formal/casual they are and the context that you use them in. Every language does stuff like this, you'd don't need to go full rewrite mood.

>>3923094
>>3924069
qt patootie

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When's the next one? Did they actually lose the source code for some old Tales games like Destiny, Eternia and Legendia which is why those games still don't get remasters?

>>3921723
>>3921884
I hope the new Tales is optimized for Switch first and foremost so they can actually focus on gameplay and contents instead of going for graphics. Arise ended up underwhelming because they prioritized muh graphics over anything else.
Slightly better Berseria graphics is enough, as long as they actually give attention to the art direction.

>>3924281
That localized name comes from Symphonia in which Shuusouraizan is a unison attack activated by Lloyd using Kogahazan. In that sense they're not actually unrelated in that specific game.
The problem is that localized name stuck around even though it makes less sense in other games.
They do share the 斬/"zan" kanji (see also Raihazan and Raijin Souhazan), but that's a weak connection since it also applies to several other unrelated artes.

>>3924496
>Arise ended up underwhelming because they prioritized muh graphics over anything else.
Let alone not being a Tales game in the first place.

>>3924510
It very much is a Tales of game. Arise even keeps the trend of the game having a weak second half.

>>3924535
I had that outlook too. Until I played it. Now I call it doodoo water.

>>3923765
>Yes you fucking do
No, you, don't.
クラース/Kuraasu is KLARTH and it's exactly how the character is called.
クラウス/Kurausu is NOT how he's called.
KLAUS is an invention of either fanfics or poor translations.

>>3924676
>>3923765
>クラース/Kuraasu is KLARTH and it's exactly how the character is called.
And if you want to misspell it, at least call him KLAAS, not KLAUS.

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>>3924676
>KLAUS is an invention of either fanfics or poor translations
Sounds like Cress then!

>>3924679
You're missing the point entirely.
Like you were already told Ls and Rs are interchangeable.
You can't change an entire name like KLAAS/KLARTH and turn it into CLAUS.

Also learn some fucking japanese before getting autistic about its Ls and Rs.
Cress >>>>>>>>> Cless though.
Cress sounds cool.
Cless does not.
Simple as.

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>>3924680
>You can't change an entire name like KLAAS/KLARTH and turn it into CLAUS
And yet it seems that's just what they did
>they fucked up!
I know, just like they fucked up Cress
>but that's one's phonetically possible
I know, but it clearly wasn't the intended name given JP has consistently used Cless for three decades. That's always been my point
>Cress sounds cool
Anone...

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>>3924676
It's not the german name Claus where the "au" is pronounced like "ow". It's pronounced with an "aw" like Santa Claus.

i also use Cress and Klarth
i don't care if they conflict with """canon""" localizations or japanese romanizations, i just use the names i like the most
i also prefer Genius and Refill btw

>>3924727
Genius and refill don’t sound like names - Genis and Raine do.
Hence I prefer Genis and Raine.

Cress and Cless both work reasonably well, so I don’t really have a strong opinion either way

Claus just is an actual name that sees common use, Klarth… is not. Hence I prefer Klaus

>>3924693
Katakana is written entirely by sounds. If they wanted Claus, they would have done so.

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The truth is that they don't always put thought into romanizations. Hearts has a few that conflict with the English names of the stones characters are based off of as well as this random 'n' they threw into ガラド

>>3922696
cless is boring
arche is funny and carries the past portion of the game
mint is even more boring
chester is the only party member who actually has a character arc
klarth is pretty funny
suzu is cool and cute but has too little screentime

>retards discussing inconsistent localization
Official names: Cless, Mint, Arche, Klarth, Chester, Suzu
Cope, seethe, D I L A T E

Edna A cup chest

>>3925373
I hope you also say Shihna.

>>3925374
Regal D cup chest

>>3925373
it's funnier when you realise they're all dubfags

>>3925453
>>3925373
Okay, so why arent you using Lion, Refill, Woodrow, Genius, Iria and so on?

>>3925373
>Official name
>Klarth
That's wrong, bucko. Certainly seems one of us is coping, yes.

Edna JC body

>>3925497
ignoring the rest of these, anyone who uses Garr over Woodrow is a waste of oxygen

>>3924750
>Claus just is an actual name that sees common use
It's also not the actual character's name.
It's either Clarth or Klarth, whichever you prefer.
The spelling gives it away.
(I'm not saying you shouldn't call him Claus if that's what you want, I'm just saying that it's an objectively incorrect translation of the character's name which is "クラース・F・レスター".)

>>3925911
What's correct or incorrect is irrelevant, people just like what's familiar to them. You're never going to see the English fanbase start calling Reid Rid, for example.

>>3925918
Most English fans use Klarth tho

>>3925497
I do

Did the Ednaschizo get v&? Haven't seen him in a long time.

>>3927012
I think he's just restoring to posts now because >>3925756
>>3925374

feel like that sicko's style

>>3927012
I doubt a ban could have stopped them. Pretty sure they ban-evaded many times before.
Hopefully he finally croaked.

>>3927012
>>3927491
And I doubt they got caught either.
(Unless there's a reason to think otherwise, I don't have one, but I just know them as "the autist that spams Tales threads and makes me want to close the tab and move on", so.)

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Who summoned me ?
Anyway, Happy Valentine Tales bros !

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Post Tales valentines!