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Never pay more than ZERO DOLLARS for RPG Maker sludge.

>>3916908
Meh, while I do think it's miles above many RPG Maker games but I don't really have the same adoration that OP seem to have towards it.
IMO Fear and Hunger (2 especially) is better, in terms of gameplay and novel aspects. Dunno but Look Outside doesn't feel as immersive, although the idea was definitely cool and unique.
>>3916913
Pirated it, still think it's a good game. Better than Octoslop, Sea of Slop, Slop Project.

>>3916932
>Better than Octoslop, Sea of Slop, Slop Project.
Not much of a challenge.

>>3916908
surprised that Frankie's still working on bug fixes and smaller content updates for the game. I figured that he'd shift development back to Malison after 2.0 since LO has overwhelmingly succeeded at bankrolling him for the foreseeable future

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>making xin anon harder for no reason
>something no one wanted by complaining he was too easy
I hate this ugly bastard

>>3917419
I wanted it, the fight is pathetically easy.

>>3916913
It’s still an engine. Yeah there is a lot of slop coming out of it but so is out of UE5. One of my friends is making a game in rpg maker atm and he’s been working over it for a year. I think it really depends on a game. If the dev wasnt bothered enough to make new sprites and textures definitely dont give them money

>>3917430
That's the problem. You're too easily impressed by flashy visuals and art shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself. You assign value to something that doesn't serve the gameplay in any way, shape, or form.
The game is bone stock RPG Make sludge from top to bottom mechanically and that, my friend, makes it worth $0. Zero dollars. If the developer can't be bothered to make something mechanically interesting, then they don't deserve the dirt upon which they stand.

>>3917440
You are evaluating games by a single metric. This fine for aggressive internet tribalistic discussions, but does not reflect the reality of multiple important metrics.

I think it'd be cool if XIN-AMON assimilated dead party members or had new phases but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, Dumpstercats on Twitch occasionally streams himself working on Malison sprites if anyone's interested.

https://www.twitch.tv/frankiepixelshow
Balancing/fixing stream

>>3917440
>You're too easily impressed by flashy visuals and art shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself
So like Sea of Slop & Octoslop.
Which aren't even made in RPGM.
Your standard of a "good game" is out of this world, solipsist.

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>yet another 5/10 rpg maker porn game masquerading as a 10/10

>>3918267
Are you retarded?

The game would be good if they didn't ruin the tone with their friendly monsters.

>>3918276
all wise artists now include self insert fodder for retards to latch onto
>omg I'd be like a scary calculator with tentacles cuz I love savings

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>wasp guy will drop a grotesque honeycomb upon death (or multiple if you let him get worse) in the update
Surely we can also harvest the hives in his room.

>>3918272
No, but you pretty much have to be to think that Shill Outside is anything more than a 5/10 game dressed up to make you PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE it's more than that.
Stop paying retards for shitty art and mediocre storytelling. Start glorifying actual, compelling gameplay. Oh... wait, that's like telling you to suddenly have a brain, or a soul, for that matter.

It's a project that didn't even mean anything to Frankie before it got really big. I don't know why retards act like it was anything but a fluke. Malison is gonna be an actual game.
Love both tho

>>3916908
I'm already dealing with time management and the approching end of my time in rl, I don't want to deal with it in my rpgs.

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>there is an unused sprite of pierre smirking and lifting his skirt just before he unravels himself

>>3916908

>2025
>best movie is Sinners (Black horror)
>best game is Look Outside (Black horror)
Why are Black people cookin so good?

>>3918366
>I don't know why retards act like it was anything but a fluke.
You know how popular Garfield Gameboy'd is, don't kid yourself.

>>3918366
The furnace feels like it wouldn't be out of place as a Malison boss

>>3918362
I'm aware.
Frankly if there are fan games I'm going to be more interested in fan games that try different genres of gameplay rather than more rpgmaker

>>3918362
>Stop paying retards for shitty art and mediocre storytelling. Start glorifying actual, compelling gameplay. Oh... wait, that's like telling you to suddenly have a brain, or a soul, for that matter.
You're just a contrarian troll who hated anything indie.
I bet you don't have any example of a game that you considered having "actual compelling gameplay" in the first place, why would anyone listen to you then?

>>3918267
this isn't a Black Souls thread

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how did this happen wtf

>>3919252
>Aster is enamored by Hellen's gardening talk

>>3919257
it felt fucked up she kept rebuffing the sam pawn too
also his mom is somehow 36 and hes 32.

I figured out a strat for Rat Child. If you get Hellen early (or know you are gonna get Hellen as early as Day 2/3 if you have the door encounter mods) consider sacrificing an arm for Rat Child - if you can roll to get the meal interaction for Prowl/Pounce it costs a single stamina and if you setup the parties Agilities correctly you can make sure Hellen always has a full powered Stab (with a second weaker Stab too potentially if she has Coat of Arms) on turn 1 at the end of the turn. This gives him cheap positive utility/damage outside of shooting the pistol until he gets to level 12 which from then on he can Prowl/Pounce with Coat of Arms to do even more damage than Hellen's Stalk/Stab Coat of Arms combo since he has a 3x modifier over Hellen's 2x modifier and can use even Crush weapons with his version of the move. He also has slightly higher base attack than Hellen but you won't notice that until he gets to 12 since all his melee damage is halved until then.

>>3916908
>just ate a pork center loin steak with my mac and cheese
>shared it with (0) people
>despite everything, feeling pretty good about life right now

Really not a fan of how he said Parze is gender neutral and can be anything you want to be. I understand they're going to be an avatar but it kinda kills some enjoyment for me of the character, or the idea of them.
Something simple like that kinda kills the game for me, it's dumb and I don't even mind the idea of trans things but it just rubs me the wrong way.
He seems very confused on what to do with Malison despite it being a game so long in the making.

>>3919898
He says the same about Sam who is painfully, obviously male. Contrary to the assumptions in his Twitch chat, it has less to do with contemporary gender politics and more with putting yourself in the character's shoes. As for the classes in Malison, they're technically separate lives you're assuming control of (outside of the hard mode one, which is just Parze but disheveled).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQinQYLYHC4
I kinda like this better than shell shock

>>3917465
xin-amon should be a hopeless boss battle
that is like an endless spawning guinea pig survival mode until you run out of hp and items after you kill the eyes/claws/maws.
Yeah survival mode but with endless guinea pigs

>>3917465
I think it would have been interesting if certain flags caused Sam-like shades to manifest as party members like Aster witnessing the end of Wizard's Hell twice or scaring the Feral God or the First Witness finding out every single one of its organs are dead or simply inflicting Pain on the Visitor

>>3919994
>The shades becoming game characters
sorta having more lens cracking on that whole 'true ending' thing
more lens cracks there would be neat in general
like I was surprised it didn't happen. Like if we shifted perspective and we see everyone else dealing with a cursed world spanning "sam" that refers to itself as chase dressing its countless appendages as various characters/NPCs/Enemies from Massacre Princess like endless puppets and playing out the game with the appendages. A Sam with a delusion that 'stabilized' in that state between sanity and insanity some cursed seem to exist in (like the rat king).

>>3920003
(Or at least I find that headcanon idea more believable than it being a flatout overwrite)

>>3920003
Could have easily shown one as a cursed hunter during the epilogue

>>3916932
This. Fear & Hunger's gameplay is way more fun and addictive. It has no cheevos and yet I "100%-ed" both games, including pretend special endings like "Save everyone except yourself" with multiple characters, all characters' unique endings, etc. Look Outside has nice music and visuals, but it's ultra generic gameplay wise.

If you are using Leigh/Joel/Xaria (& Rat Child with Predator Snarl could potentially be used too but he is better off with skills over basic attacks. Morton too potentially with Severed Hand/Rotten Flesh/Warm Eyeball/Fidget Cube) - go with the Papier-Maché Crown/Royal Decree - aka have Roaches form a monarchy. Otherwise Schism for permanent coat of arms or Republic for Appoint Governor & to give Roaches his near guaranteed immortality back. Roaches likes Royal Decree too since it can help him whip everyone multiple times to spread 2-3 roaches/poison/bleeding to all enemies.

Ernest has higher utility potentially with Joel/Leigh/Xaria/Morton/Rat Child/Roaches since he can use Double Time to give out extra attacks but Sam can also do that with Royal Decree. Even then Aster's Strategic Huddle prob immediately makes Aster better than Ernest for buffing on recruitment even with those teams since it's incredibly cheap (6 STM vs 20 STM), lasts multiple battles, and adds an extra 15% to crit to all attacks including many abilities you wouldn't think it would impact like Audrey's Refreshments. Ernest has a better turn to turn DPS cause of Squeakems/Feedback spam + better status effect prevention for the entire party with Song of Willpower but I think Strategic Huddle alone might be so versatile and strong that it makes Aster immediately a direct upgrade. And that's before we talk about Fire Safety Protocol's utility vs Furnace and a few others + Um Actually curing all status effects too - I do think Song of Willpower is likely better but I could see the argument for Aster just immediately replacing Ernest later on in a run. Strategic Huddle > Song of Strength though which is gonna be what Ernest tries to spam to keep up with Strategic Huddle at low cost. 20% extra damage is nice but 15% extra crit can do some absurd things when you stack crit.

>fine, interesting game, worth at least one playthrough for anyone that enjoys 4niar
>absolute batshit insane 30+ y/o manchildren fanbase that post images of their wii games and make communist ideology and being a transexual their entire personality

im tired hirohito.

>>3920191
It's fucked cause they can make a solid game but then go full tranny and the community just has zero awareness of how they drag it down

>>3920191
>>3920197
I don't get it

>>3920020
Maybe
I think I may just find the thought of the survivors having to deal with and navigate the logic of a Chase fractal with "puppet" appendages capped with Massacre Princess characters amusing. And not totally impossible to deal with as survivors who played massacre princess would have more idea of what to do and all that.

>>3920280
Delegating fractal appendages to have the identities of game characters/NPCs also probably helps a bit with retaining sanity even if it means they'd not be nearly as helpful as denial ending sam.

>>3918276
The game would be good if there were only friendly monsters and you were a total psychopath

>>3918276
The game would be good if I could fuck any monster I wanted.

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>>3920286
>Survivors jarred and baffled about why the world spanning god the visitor left behind is so convinced it is a JRPG world
>The guy who knows why

>>3920317
Enjoy your dick worms

>>3920319
im a bug chaser, of course I will

>>3920322
Your dick was always worms

The tooth family was never cursed, they're just British

>>3920355
So Tooth Hell is just a portal to Britain?

>>3920003
I meant more as final bosses shift from fight to flight that makes their situation even worse by having their fears manifest as even more shade Sams showing up out of thin air as shades tend to do (or the MP party members now that you mention it)
I was surprised there wasn't any interaction from using painful stab on the Visitor, I mean it's an explicitly very painful wound that hurts when it moves being inflicted on the eye of an ever changing thing that probably never even understood the concept of pain before

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Patch with Jeanne using a motorcycle when

I think it would have been funny if moving the plant to the light revealed it actually did have feelings for Sam

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>hello, based department ?

>>3921452
>Dan and Xaria are the rich kids of the game

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>>3921454
Living in Montreal already means you're decently well off, more so if you can afford to go to a fucking art school.
Why Dan tho ? Guy lives like a hobo, unless that's a monty typo lol

>>3921455
He has a smartphone as well, and the description for the Neoduo says that only rich kids had one.

>>3921455
He's a livestreamer, what else is he going to use?

>>3921458
>>3921457
TRUE, I forgot about that, and the fact he's not just using a camcorder/gopro. It only makes sense he's using a real smartphone. I assumed he bought his NeoDuo with his money from his channel. Since they live in a fucking dump with only trash food, dirty house, and in the dogshit apartments where some rooms dont even have a bathroom.

Also, E you fucker. I never heard anyone outside of here ever say 'based department' would his chat even get that joke. I know your ass browses here

Lol he's already considering another update.

>>3921465
More cursed mode shit or something more?

>>3921486
Polishing sprites and adding emotive portraits to more party members

>unique battle mechanic that makes the most of RPGM jank
>it's being wasted on juicebox giving birth and doing wrestling moves rather than lyle using the enemies in his soul photos as summons (which he was originally going to do)

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>>3921533
I wish he wasn't basically a solo dev and he could just port it to fucking gamemaker like Lisa and actually do interesting shit with it since he clearly wants to work on it more than Malison.

>>3921541
I don't care what he works on, I'm sure it'll be good either way

>>3921544
My point is that if he's going to continue working on LO as he clearly enjoys it, he should port it to a real engine where he could actually experiment and do more interesting stuff in to test FOR Malison.

It's doing the game, and his own creativity a disservice by having it be stuck in RPGM

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It's not an engine issue. It's a developer skill issue. The trouble is, because he lucked into a fanbase of Neanderthals who will pay up $10 for the privilege of playing sludge that is worse than countless free RPGM games (made by developers with actual skill) he has zero incentive to improve - he KNOWS you will tolerate the sludge. He KNOWS you're a bunch of retarded hogs who will line up in front of the trough any time he updates a single pixel in his game so you can spend 10,000 posts across 20 general threads analyzing that single pixel.
Congratulations on being just another shitty version of the Undertale/Deltarune fanbase.

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Where's Nanashi when you need him

>>3921554
Getting raped by a vampire I assume

>>3921557
Dlc slop, not canon

>>3921554
>>3921557
>>3921558
I don't understand.

>>3921541
I wonder how gameplay could be in a look outside not constrained by RPGM
Maybe it'd not be possible to pull of the amount of stuff look outside has I guess, where it feels like half the game is 'oh what weird shit will be in the next apartment we check out' in how it plays out.

>>3921593
Like hundreds of enemy types, how would you combat system that for some other gameplay?

>Flawed ritual variant where someone may 'substitute' for a failed astronomer that has no idea what the visitor looks like but just acts like they know and is totally out of their depth (vincent I guess is this?)
>ritual variant w/ corrupted or doppleganger or worm astronomer (disrupted ritual)

>>3921564
SMT references. SMT4: Apocalypse DLC, if I remember correctly.

>>3921624
Eugene, Lyle or Jeanne I think would be likely substitutes going by "proximity to aster" logic, unsure if being already cursed disqualifies when Jasper was cursed. And being cursed yet sane still causes mutations from the gaze?
Eugene already has worm subplot stuff and comes off as someone who would be very fuck that about anything outside related.
Jeanne is mixed case as on one hand, very good cause to not want to go outside. On the other, confidence after laundry and maybe boredom/curiosity after a few days. And yeah let's not find out what a direct gaze from the visitor would do to a hydra.
Lyle is probably the most likely one of the three to agree to substituting due to knowing a bit of it and sam's involvement with the astronomers to be honest.
But man losing 2 party members if you also recruited aster sounds pretty bad.

>>3921628
Exposing Jeanne to the outside probably would be some floor 4 related shenanigan due to the floor based mutation mechanic she has.

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>>3921564
Anon posted YHVH specifically from smt4a. Nanashi is the godslayer who killed YHVH since he's a piece of shit. Hellen, since she wanted to kill the visitor, basically a god
Mephisto, from the dlc mindrapes him into hallucinating a fun beach scene.
Mephisto is not actually a vampire, but looks like one.

Tldr. Smt4a is good, play it

>>3921465
pretty sure hes not adding (much) more content, from what i read he's got the game mostly wrapped up as a finished project now, and to be honest i think thats fine, game is okay

>>3921717
Look Outside evidently wasn't meant to be super big
Malison being the main project makes sense the more I think about it, as it explains why you see fantasy monsters that wouldn't be out of place in Malison (the furnace, the rat king and such).

>>3921879
Furnace rematch in Malison maybe
Im sure they have furnaces in the cursed city

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Game isn't finished until the dick monster is added to Lyle's bathtub.

>>3921553
>countless free RPGM games (made by developers with actual skill)
like what

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>>3922060
Enchant farm bro and Ruina of course :^)

>>3916908
nothing rpg about this game though

>>3922078
What about Massacre Princess, the best RPG of all time?

>>3922236
Fractal Chase is the most annoying world fractal Sam. Yeah he poked the visitor’s eye and scared the visitor off, but the world is now filled with those damn puppets of stuff from that game. Could be worse as the delusion constrains his logic so if a monster branch attacks as a ”random encounter” you just need to hit it enough to make it fuck off after it regurgitates coins. Chase himself is a branch and you cannot convince him that he is doing it as he doesn’t view himself as one entity to begin with.

>>3922244
(Sorta ironic to make the “true ending” Sam fractal the “neutral” Sam fractal I know)

>>3922244
They're about as connected to Rush as Drowning is connected to Lethargy

>>3922252
True.
And the person who knows how to exploit / break the mechanics of massacre princess would be basically the Morton for anyone dealing with this mess.

>>3922274
Though I'm pretty sure someone has done some RPG thing out there where the premise of the game or at least one of the areas is that there is a massive eldritch monster and all the characters/enemies you encounter are all tendrils of it with specialized personalities that are fragments of the mind at the core of it all. And I don't mean like puppets on strings or separate bodies; you can very obviously see they're tendrils of some much more massive organism. If a game like that exists I'd be interested in it.

I would have preferred it if Promise could be brute forced by using all your interactions with Cursed like Ben or Summer instead of just the promise

Jeanne's past involvement in the Quebec biker war is the one thing they don't tell you about

>>3922866
Promise ending Sam being basically inflated ending form but with fully retained sanity would fit that motif too

>>3922942
*flawed ritual

>>3922926
>Jeanne not having a door encounter (once ground floor is hit) despite an obvious doppelganger type

>>3922961
>doppelganger
The hostile door encounters being clones is just a fandom meme.

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>>3922965
Sometimes it is just someone like Dan but cursed or the pizza being a monster
It isn't just a doppleganger thing

I swear to fuck they better not make an AU that swaps Lyle and Jeanne

>>3922942
What if Sam's portrait was covered in blood after the Quartet like in Flawed

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>>3923037
I dunno what would or wouldn't change
Some people think the astronomers would become a noodle if Sam didn't join the ritual. Kinda all up in the air on what the hell the gaze does

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I've become retarded

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>>3923084
Hah

>>3923064
You open the menu to heal and get greeted by a bloody Sam jumpscare then get told you're not human then get another bloody Sam jumpscare for good measure

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>>3923120
I guess that makes sense
I think

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>>3923189
>All of his colleagues fell to full insanity or perished as the triune
>Reminded of this when it's his birthday

>>3923190
He got deflated like a balloon

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>>3923191
Sam in the flawed ending is maybe still sane, maybe. I like that they left it ambiguous.

>>3923202
Oh he's totally still sane, he generally adjusts pretty well to being cursed all things considered
Dude can fucking implode into a form more absurd than the E4 and just go "oh I might look a bit spooky"

Content+ ideas are everywhere for this sort of game, the way it has 13 endings as is almost invites such speculating.
Like what if the ritual gets hijacked by other characters oblivious to the intent or goals of the ritual behind your back if certain conditions are met (like telling the wrong person about the astronomer stuff). And you only noticing they're not the astronomers when it's basically too late, like maybe some foreshadow with them not mutating even when given a blatantly false item or such and the eye colors on the astronomers being all wrong. or even one of them having suction cup fingers..

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>>3923202
>pic
furfag fanfiction
he looks like this

>>3923213
Jasper was replaced by worms
Beryl is moldy
Aurelius is made of paint

>>3923214
He looks like Jeanne before he closes his eyes

>>3923218

Telling a mushroom "friend" in the basement about the astronomer quest
Telling Fred about the astronomer quest
Telling Nestor or Kevin about the astronomer quest
Aster talking about the astronomer quest to the punks in a dining convo
All four interactions would be needed for it to happen or it just doesn't happen.

>>3923221
(And obviously not killing them beforehand)

>>3923218
Aster found as the dream eater cursed on the roof broken from something resembling rope, the smell of juicebox is present. (If recruited they rejoin your when dealing with whatever the hell the boss of this is like in flawed/mask)

>>3923230
It's Juicejug

>>3923221
What is interesting about this combination is they kinda are like "flaunting individuality" but in the worst ways possible. Fred is kinda egomaniacal and maybe dealing with DID at the same time, the worms see themselves as worms and make you see yourself as worms, the shrooms are an arrogant mold colony that see everyone else as just fodder to grow their colony and juicebox is whatever juicebox is.

>>3923234
Different from the quartet in that they are still "separate" and not remotely as fused (imagine spaghettified strands of their forms contorted into interlocking spirals or such) and after some dialogue in the first four or five turns where their little alliance of convenience falls apart, start attacking each other as well. So it'd have scarier abilities and stats than the quartet by far but it gets tempered by how they attack each other or even temp ally to you at times.

>>3923221
I'd have it be them doing one final desperate attempt on the final day to get their offerings
Jasper trying to get a firsthand account from Rafta only for her to realize he's "also worms"
Beryl trying to get the convenience store key only to get molded
Aurelius trying to retrieve the painting only for the Face Stealer to realize that he is quite an interesting role to play
Aster coming to the wrong conclusion and figuring that the liquid and tube are referring to Juicebox's hands and the liquid went through his because it's not his hands to hold

>>3923238
Honestly for Aster I would have had him get pulped by Edwin when he tries asking him for help instead of being replaced by Juicebox but whatever, Juicebox was already here

>>3923240
I also thought of edwin but stargazer is considerably harder to hide under a cloak and I’m not sure if any flesh forms can leave the flesh parallel world while juicebox already has a hood, I also wanted to still have it possible to have dream eater aster available if he was recruited as a party member. Edwin maybe has motive for it but it’s unclear if they’d figure it out like face taker just hearing what Aurelius tells them or the shrooms/worms who would learn of it via assimilation. Meanwhile juicebox comes off as chaotic neutral enough that they might do it out of curiosity or who knows what other reasons (maybe having the most tragic motive of the four) and I couldn’t think of anyone else.

>>3923243
(Thrill as a motive with juicebox may also be present, they’re hard to get a read on by design kek)

>>3923238
>day 14/15 getting an invite to a rooftop party slipped under your door

>>3923243
>I’m not sure if any flesh forms can leave the flesh parallel world
It seems to just be the light that keeps them out and spine can have part of her outside meat world even if it's all ethereal and stuff

>>3923245
Chaotic Neutral- Juicebox
Lawful Evil- Shrooms
Neutral Evil- Facetaker
Chaotic Evil- Worms (kinda feels like they're chaotic despite assimilating)

>>3923249
Of course they're chaotic, they break people apart when they "assimilate" them and each worm can be its own individual

>>3923243
>stargazer is considerably harder to hide under a cloak
it's not like he has to fully hide himself since he doesn't appear in the light anyway

>>3923255
Maybe instead of just pulping aster they knock him out and drag him to the rooftop to be a "witness" to the ritual? They have a prior relation to aster and retain some sanity so I feel like they'd not just pulp a former colleague. So that'd be a way to still have Dream eater aster in the party if you recruited them prior.

>>3923257
He could have turned from the projection from the telescope

>>3923258
Dream eater aster fight on that route placed in a way they kinda act as a beef gate maybe.

>>3923261
>You're woken up by loud, rapid banging at the door
>It's Baku Aster
>He refuses to leave
>"We need to go to the roof, NOW!"

>>3923264
I think this would happen with a Recruited aster but otherwise they'd just be on the roof.

>>3923266
You walk into the stairwell and see the door to the roof is destroyed

>>3923237
Basically imagine like some fucked up galaxy-like shape where each of the arms are spiraling/twirling around the “core” pupil with there being a paint arm, shroom arm, telescope arm and worm arm that mutates into every more twirled spirals in later turns but never merging like the astronomers do. And they attack each other as much as they do you. Not sure what their move sets would be beyond likely taking from their non-spiraling form but I figure edwin’s invisibility would temporarily go away for a several turns whenever a blackhole is used due to its light absorbing, invisible spiraling edwin’s agility is pretty high when invisible but very low when visible.

>>3923274
>invisible spiraling edwin’s agility is pretty high when invisible but very low when visible.
His evasion is comically high but he can't hit for shit

>>3923277
So spiraling edwin may use blackhole to regain visibility and for the next few turns following up with hard hitting attacks while visible. Visibility would happen due to say, Sophie’s blackhole marble as well.
But the other three?

>>3923288
The other three are attached to hiveminds so worms, Freds, and fungi can crash the party if they're still alive
The fungi and worms can have a tug of war for charming your party members
Paint will attempt to inflict status effects like blind or sleep on other parts when they are about to unleash a strong attack and poison Telescope when it's visible
They gang up on a segment if it has much more or much less health than them, prioritizing much more

>>3923274
The dialogue in my head is amusing since I’m just imagining wormed jasper being about worms worms and the shroomed beryl being about shroom shrooms so they have a serious conflict of interest over that, meanwhile “astronomer Fred” is gets offended by the thought of being a worm or a shroom all the while edwin is realizing the other three killed their their astronomer colleagues (cognitive dissonance) and then physically lashing out at them over that due to being unable to speak.

>>3923290
There's a very high chance that Edwin doesn't even target you and just tries killing the other segments

>>3923288
Obviously all shadow damage would show him (though he's weak to shadow damage and by extension the fungal limb so be careful)

The idea the worms would be disgusted by the shroom tendency for illusory deception is funny to me for whatever reason

>>3923300
They believe themselves to be the true form of life since everything is worms, they just don't remember it

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>>3923300
Along with how it is kinda obvious that Jasper was always worms.

>>3923304
Rafta even writes and Jasper wants a manuscript, it's a perfect match!

Hehe
Sam Hell

>>3923303
It goes to show how different assimilators can be.
The Shrooms are basically scammers, all their items are debuffs and they lure you in to have more mass for the colony basically on a false pretense.
The worms meanwhile are true believers and driven by that belief. Nestor even thanks you and tells you what he's up to even after like right in front of you hijacking Eugene. And the worms even have items that actually help you unlike the shrooms. All worm based because of course.

>>3923314
Also how the worms have the work jacket that blocks charm which is kinda useful against the spore queen

>>3923314
Even rafta just is casually like “yeah can’t wait to lay eggs in him and wrap around his brain stem” and at most is worried it made you cringe a bit.
Like damn, worm girls kinda crazy

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Wait so juicebox is female?! Male pronouns but giving birth?
Amazing implications of that, just amazing.
I’m going to self immolate, good night,

>>3923344
wait, so look outside is actually woke? no wonder it blew up so inorganically, it's part of the agenda

>>3923348
No it just means he’s got the slug parts or something

>>3923348
This game is so woke, there is male uterus!

>>3923344
He's not female, it was an asexual reproduction.

>>3923220
and?

>Neglect Jeanne's issues
>Get to floor 4
>a feral head is present there
>It got exposed to the outside
>It is sprouting more heads
>Have to kill it before it sprouts too many heads or else it's vertigo.mp3

>>3923289
Yeah and ironically enough I think none of them would be as apocalyptic for the world as truth ending Sam lol.
Fred just would show the visitor the painting probably. Edwin can't ask to see the full visitor form due to being unable to speak so they'd probably be endless telescopes trying to see more but in orbit. Still less murderous than beast Sam. And the worms / shrooms unwittingly causing separate identity forms due to probably convincing the visitor they are their spawn (which does have truth to it) and they're incubating still so come back later etc. though it is hard to know if visitor exposure would mutate them out of prior objectives or if they'd be screaming sky level destructive/dominance shift catastrophe.

>>3923547
Okay maybe fred would be a global paint abomination ruling things with countless copies of himself like a mad neroesque emperor and legions of paint people enforcing his rule, meanwhile the worms take over and achieve a "co-existence" with mention of a civil liberties struggle that got humans a whole 80 years of life before being brooded. Meanwhile the fungus probably would an illusory "savior" of the world thing but then it turns out they just are farming people like animals at best. Then you have edwin's global telescopes wanting to see more of the visitor but unable to ask the visitor directly plunging the world into darkness under a global layer of telescope arrays (Okay maybe that is Sam beast level doom still). What happens varying on who has the most hp on losing the fight, winning the fight means none of those catastrophes happen.

>>3923547
it's not like they could be, if left to their own devices they'd just tear themselves apart and you'd end up with No Going Back

>>3923552
Fred world would have endless revolutions and civil wars lel

>>3923556
>The world is my canvas, all shall know the chaotic beauty that is to be painted.

>>3923555
so even those disasters would be a product of Sam tilting the scales, oops

>>3923552
>(Okay maybe that is Sam beast level doom still)
If the telescopes are like the one in his room then it could still work with numerous patches of light (uncountable spotlights) until he spots the Visitor and all those patches become depictions

Okay maybe the shrooms would cause a Unity tier doom if they unwittingly convince the visitor with an illusion that they are also visitor without realizing the implications of that.

>>3923573
>The visitor just absorbs the shrooms, rest of earth unscathed

>>3923573
They'd give the Visitor a fungal infection and the Visitor goes "yep, I got what I came for" and leaves

Can you imagine the shitstorm if an official sequel were made that canonised the rat being wall food?

>>3923577
The worms meanwhile were individuality flaunting enough to say they're a new colony of worms that needs "more time to incubate" and they're sincere in that belief. Maybe it just delays reintegrating by a few millennia but still, time bought to spread worms to places the great worm missed and worm-human co-existence will facilitate this great endeavor.

>>3923565
>Void Sky ending

>>3923583
I feel like frank is also someone who likes the rat child too much to do that but I may be wrong

>>3923584
So they do kinda end up as distorted versions of truth (edwin forcing the truth onto others)/denial (Fred's ego revelation getting in the way of wanting to see full form)/unity (shrooms "uniting" by accident, unintentionally saving the world)/promise (worms flaunting the individuality enough despite still causing a dominance shift catastrophe).
As Worm'd Jasper still is kinda did Sybil's aims just really not in the way expected.
Unsure if winning leads to the usual visitor endings or if the lack of offerings limits the options a bit.

>>3923594
And yes I think it is grim to think the shrooms with the most malignant intentions for earth end up accidentally saving it but it just makes sense with how they like telling people what they want to hear so lying about being a little cute visitor backfiring on their shroom colony alone due to accidentally stumbling into the truth while leaving everything else (comparatively) unaffected just seems like what'd happen lel

>>3923599
Grim?
No, it's beautifully ironic as their own deception backfires so spectacularly
Sam really is like the Visitor in that way, it's Phillippe all over again

>>3923603
The other three have more 'room' for negotiation with the survivors than beast sam or the exalted four come to think of it. Yes even Edwin, who would still prove to be sane enough to explain what why they are doing what they are doing to whoever manages to figure out how to talk to it.

>>3923594
The worm jasper meanwhile would probably thanking the visitor for stopping by and showing them that they are actually worms, referring to the visitor as the father worm and hoping to see the visitor again soon once they are fully incubated.

>>3923637
So individuality flaunting via filial separation I think would happen in the worm situation. Precedent for that kinda exists as Kevin referred to the torso as their parent IIRC.

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STOP FUCKING SPOILING YOUR HEADCANONS IT MAKES THIS SHIT HARD TO READ AND FOLLOW

WERE NOT THE FUCKING EPSTEIN FILES YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT BLACK BARS OVER EVERY NON SEQUENTIAL POST JUST LIKE THIS AND THEN GO BACK TO POSTING LIKE THIS FOR EVERY SECOND WORD
STOP IT RIGHT NOW OR GO TO YOUR TUMBLR DMS
WHAT YOU'R DISCUSSING ISN'TEVENREALOR CANON

>>3923654
It's ehhh... habitual.

>>3923654
Black Souls thread

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>>3923655
GETOUTOF MY HOUSE

>>3923654
It spoils other parts of the game that are canon so it seemed like a good idea.

>>3923662
Eh? You want me to leave? Where will I go?

>>3923654
Mold, worms, and the face taker are supposed to be surprises

Doppleganger ritual I know isnt happening lol
But it is just seeding mod workshop thoughts as I think that is what is happening post-Juicebox patch?

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>>3923698
>>3923688
Anyone in the /vrpg/ threads already knows about these things. In a /v/ thread, sure, but we're all autistic here and probably finished the game.

There's like 4, 7 of us here at max shitposting.
The first few posts in this gen are talking about an ending.

>>3923709
Yeah I know but like I said, it's habitual from Black Souls threads

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After a point it does become this

>>3923768
Super backstab bros

>>3923770
>Cloaked Edwin: ... (just shows the picture, is the actual picture offering)
>Astronomer Fred: O-oh, great Observer. I have brought a painting of you! I seek to see you! Commune with you! (is the actual paint offering)
>Shroomed Beryl: Oh, great eyed one, we have a tape full of you, to become like you! (shroom filled tape)
>Wormed Jasper: And now we commune with the great worm father, to thank them for revealing to us the truth that we are all worms. (shows a love letter)
>Astronomer Fred: ...
>(The gaze begins)
>Astronomer Fred: FUCK YOU, I AM NOT A WORM!
>Shroomed Beryl: FOR WE ARE SHROOMS, JOYFUL DAYS AHEAD!
>Wormed Jasper: EVEN IN HIS GAZE, YOU ARE ALL BLIND!
>Cloaked Edwin: *is dripping a blue substance*

>>3923789
>blue substance
Don't you mean a shimmering liquid

>>3923790
yes

>>3923789
>shroom filled tape
More like shrooms in the shape of a tape

>>3923789
Would it be the Gaze or would it be like Word Salad where it's their themes trying to overpower each other while Gaze plays in the background

>>3923798
Probably something more mixed about, like the stew of chaos you'd see of the twisting spires of paint, worms, scopes and moldy shrooms clashing at each other

>>3923832
>Beautiful Dissociation Dominion Dance

>>3923881
Holy shit it's placeholder art!

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Amazing diagram here, yw but I bet sex with jeanne is really awkward. You don't feel anything and it's hard to get "in" there, but she'll still moan like crazy like somethings happening. She'll probably accidentally kick you in the face sometimes on just pure reflex too.
Regardless of that, having to push all her million legs out of the way and still not being able to find anything. Just kinda sticking your dick in there, you feel SOMETHING but not anything that makes sense. It's tight and a bit painful, but you're not sure if it's just like, leg armpit or actual hole.

Oral is probably your best option...but it's gonna be a bit scary. Maybe you can get some sort of retainer for her teeth, or stick marshmallows on them...

>>3923984
Flawed Sam is made for Hydra taming

>>3923915
I spent hours on it and I coudnt explain why beyond adderall

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>>3924076
(Full thing)

>>3924078
Quite the spectacle, though could use a bit of touching up later

>>3924083
You know, when it becomes a sprite of course

I think IIRC an 8 ritual items ending is the one most wanted by people in terms of adding any additional endings?

>>3924375
Only in your head.

>>3924377
All 8 items runs

Lyle's apartment interaction when he's bleeding should bring up cornstarch as a reference to how tarantula owners treat a ruptured abdomen.

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Enough about pointless endings, when are they going to make Jasper's apartment accessible? It would provide another incentive to kill him on the ground floor.

>>3924404
Lyle has only been a spider for a few days now, and judging by the fridge he has, he can't cook either. He'd never use it, nor would he even have cornstarch.

>>3924408
what even is in his apartment
worms?

>>3924427
I envisioned valuable armor/equipment and some notes.

>>3924428
>notes
..
it's just jasper so probably nothing big

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>you can recruit any enemy in Malison as long as you have a strong enough charm spell
Nice.

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>>3924579
Man, I want the full version of that theme he uses in his little promo vid. It's so good.
I hope Malison will come out before I graduate with my bachelors.

>Be some random guy
>Have a dream about one of the apocalyptic endings
>Have to find a way to fend it off or at least survive it, no matter the cost to yourself or others

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My biggest wish is for him to answer how reproduction works, do monsters still get periods, can they bald, will Joel, Benjamin and Rosie and the like still go through puberty. Is it possible for them to still physically age, can they get pregnant, can a cursed get a human pregnant. Do they get increased lifespans.. in general how do cursed like Leigh function. Do they work off of titan shifter logic ?
so many questions never to be answered because Frankie doesn't think it's important to know. Also I just wanted to draw a crappy, pregnant Jeanne

>>3924632
It is written, only Sam can impregnate Jeanne

>>3924632
There are two people in Dan's chat who began laying eggs after transforming, and Rafta's male hosts are specifically human.

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>>3924637
Laying eggs doesn't necessarily mean they are fertile or that they are viable.
It can also just be the "idea" of a child like Irumyuiis offspring. Visually, an egg but not actually an egg capable of growing, for Dan's chat anyways. More so if we go off the idea of imagination being the key to the world, it's what they picture might happen. Our body keeps the genetic code to do such things, but without fully understanding something we can't replicate it. (I.e make viable eggs)
Considering asexual egg reproduction exists too tho, I don't think Rafta counts either. I don't see her as anything different from Khezu. They need others to survive and continue on, and if they are unable to find a host, they can't exist.

>>>/trash/81102862
I like Confusion.

>>3924732
I like Writhing Shade

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>>3923984
>>3924632
my beautiful wife...

>Oral is probably your best option...but it's gonna be a bit scary
coward

>>3924732
You got such nice handwriting too. Very gorgeous work like always, I enjoy your art a lot

Early game I worried that being in those window light tiles seen in various apartments would mutate me
Luckily for me I don't exist in that universe or it absolutely would have as believing you mutate causes you or accelerated it at least going by that note about Jasper mutating despite only believing they saw the visitor.

>>3925068
Wouldn't there be skeptics who wouldn't mutate if it was belief based?

I still think on the rooftop imagery and how much of it is explained as numerous failed attempts to rejoin the visitor

>>3925074
In the quartet and exalted four fight, it basically is implied to happen while falling upwards. The quartet also is the only one that spins while the flawed ones do not. They just fall back to earth, splat.

>>3925068
You're an idiot. Like Fabrice, he mutated because he saw/heard a detailed impression of it (in his case by word rather than imagery). It has nothing to do with belief.

>>3925076
He saw the painting

>>3925080
Exactly

>>3925082
anon they mean that Jasper heard an incredibly detailed account of the Visitor from Sybil.
Don't agree with them though, if someone who is blind can mutate, it is more or elss about belief

>>3925084
And Victor was completely unaffected through the power of gaming

>>3925084
>if someone who is blind can mutate, it is more or elss about belief
>what is the plant

>>3925090
>You don't feel any different

>>3925092
>The changes will come all at once. Very soon.

>>3925072
I was thinking that, someone truly narcissistic to the extreme would be fully immune

>>3925090
plants are alive and can react to their surroundings.

>>3925093
>Was I not chosen?

>>3925095
Yes, but they aren't sapient.

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>>3925097
TO YOU, to me they are. everything living has a spirit and a soul
blind people on the other hand, do not

>>3925100
Uhhh, based?

Frankie's streaming more Look Outside dev, hopefully he'll take a look at the bugs sometime this week since more were reported in the Miraheze page

>>3923838
>Dividuality

>>3925094
Until they suffer a narcissistic injury, anyways.

>>3925551
And then they get real, real ugly really fast and the boss music plays. (So like facetaker basically)

>It's a picture of you.
>It's a drawing of you.
>It's a recording of you.
>It's a description of you.
>Why did you give the astronomers these?

>>3925787
Why not?

>>3925789
Because you killed Lyle for a fucked up partially developed picture of yourself
And overfed Tickle
And jammed the tape in Panopticon while it was recording you
And turned Wilhelmina into a biography about yourself
You narcissist

What if you could lead Henri to Tumor Fred, kill two birds with one stone

In tonight's bug fix stream, Frankie wastes an hour ranting about Terraria.

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>>3926318
What is he even saying ? I've been ignoring the streams so I can be into the new update and malison unspoiled.
I accidentally joined once though when he was complaining about something with Summer. What was that about ? He said it would be annoying to fix.
Kek anyways

Summer x Placide

>lyle's fridge has nothing but leftovers and rotten leftovers in it
he's just like me

>>3926405
Sybil has an entire unrotted chicken you can steal
She complains about how your cooking smells too good and doesn't even come over to eat some
Lazy!

>>3924415
Corn starch has myriad uses outside of cooking

>>3926785
Name 5 that matter

>>3926929
NTA, but
1. Ballistic Vest reinforcement
2. Used for shape retention in tailoring
3. Head hygiene cosmetics component
4. Cheap paper bonding agent
5. Low-grade biofuel

>>3926964
I said matters

>>3927020
>I said matters
Anon, are you re...
Alright I'll bite. Which of these have no benefit during the apocalypse?

>>3926929
At least five different types of household cleaning

>>3926929
Aren't organic powders like flour highly flammable?

>>3927027
3 and 4.
>>3927033
>>3927045
Lyle still would have no reason to own cornstarch

>>3927058
If Lyle had a tarantula then that would easily explain it

>>3927045
It’s the ratio of surface area to volume when finely ground

>>3927092
It'd be funny if there was a "dust cloud" debuff that made shock, fire, and blast damage to or from the enemy cause them to explode

>>3927102
Moth chungus Phillippe has a "Dust Cloud" skill.

>>3927081
Okay but HE DOESNT OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE MENTIONED AND HED BE ANNOYING ABOUT IT LIKE EVERY OTHER BUG OWNER IS
HEY CHECK OUT MY ODONOTA NYMPH ISNT IT SO COOL

>>3927154
>Specific bug species mentioned
HMMMMMM biology buff or bug owner?

>>3927468
Neither, LISA porn artist

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>>3927825
The boys or the girls?

>>3927977
I will do horrible things to this can

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They kinda are like digimon lol

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>>3928028
they evolve and have weapon arms along with their usual many hands deal

>>3927977
It was both. They drew Lisa getting raped but also Buzzo slutted up and being used
Incredibly based

>>3927977
Shoving Lyle up Audrey's slot

>none of the new companions have one-on-one mealtime interactions with the player
>even with frankie saying that lyle doesn't enjoy talking to anyone other than sam, and the spider being the spider
If he forgets about this for 2.02, I swear to fucking god.

>>3928039
Based

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>>3928130
Don't even remember how I found their work but I found it particularly striking.
A lot of it was atmospheric, muted colours. It left a very deep sense of dread. The goofy stuff was funny too, just wish I saved more.
Pic rel I took because I really struggled to tell wtf it was till they said it was Lisa holed up in a shed being abused by Marty (?) something like that. Idk, it paints a really somber picture.

Also just a random Buzzo and Lisa they made lol. https://files.catbox.moe/au0gna.png

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>>3923654
dan is in epstein files

They should just make xin-amon a hopeless boss fight outright

Saw a negress Sybil with a dick while looking for lewd fan art. Really hope the patch comes out this week.

>>3928812
I'd rather it be a puzzle boss since at its core it's a prey animal.

>>3928907
All that matters is that it gnaws

>>3928909
Guinea pigs are notoriously scared of things, they're PREY animals!

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Frankie drew Hellen in the Indigo Mask tonight and none of you fuckers told me?

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>>3928894
I forgot about the patch

>>3929136
Man, he's such a good artist. We knew that already but his solo pieces are great. I'm so glad he likes Hellen as a character too and that she'll be in Malison. She's nice

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>>3929417
There will be a lot of things in Malison that you'll recognise from LO, but only because they were planned for the other game first.

>>3925790
>Show the Visitor all 4 of these
>The Visitor: I am Sam.
>The Visitor: It all makes sense now.

>>3929610
They're all representative of aspects of the Visitor
Sam can see through the photo
He was observed and depicted by things way smaller than him
He turned Panopticon into a fractal by having him record himself recording you
And he even warped Wilhelmina into an unrecognizable form through feeling

>>3929725
And the ending plays https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxSQk2Ut6Y&si=OTUs9J5BunJMxXZs

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>>3929751
>those chords

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What are wide thoughts like?

I am shocked that Octostrike isn't a Lufia II reference.

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Poster sketch that Unsilentwill (one of the cleanup artists) did during the game jam era

Reminder that Frankie originally made Spine a man but flip-flopped after he realized more people would spare the homicidal sleep rapist if it were female.

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>Chinese mod on nexus has this as it's image

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I was bored

>>3934145
>t. Visitor

the artist is a pretty cool guy, i like watching his pixelart processes on his streams

>mixing dithering with smudging
Enjoy your AI slop.

>>>/trash/81401141