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What are your thoughts on the Star Ocean series?
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Memorable and endearing, not perfect, but worth playing. 1 was a peak snes era rpg, 2 was the best and had a cozyness that almost no other rpg can match, 3 was a mess and the beginning of the mediocrity. 4 and 5 i enjoyed but knew they were both close to being bad games. And gave up after that. The music is amazing in all of them. Blue sphere is neat
And rpg fan not having played 1 and 2 os doing a disservice. Walking up to Arlia village that first time never stops making me feel emotional
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I like em, warts and all. Albel/Fayt best ending.
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2 is easily the best, probably because it was Final Fantasy, but Star Trek to book end. Japan loves to copy popular media from the US. 1 and 2 come off the wake of success of Star Trek The Nest Generation. The inspiration there is incredibly obvious if you're familiar.
3 sheds a lot of the Star Trek tones. Only letting it pop up really strongly, for it to be quickly dismissed.
4 leans back into it, but is a prequel and then a very typical JRPG.
5 goes back to the Star Trek like framing, idk 6
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excellent music, only redeeming quality in any of them
all of them have shit gameplay, bad stories despite the novel idea of mixing scifi and standard fantasy, are stuffed full of references to themselves like you should know or give a fuck about their world or the developers themselves, and every single one has a terrible final act which ends them on a bad note
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They piss me off because:
>cool title
>sci-fi jrpg
>look inside
>grassy forests, fighting animals with regular non-laser swords with your childhood crush with a bow
I liked the first one's story enough (didn't beat it), but I thought it was more Star Trek than anything else. Thought that was neat. The modern ones are super lame and I don't know how they keep getting to make these.
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Fascinating premise, that is utterly botched in execution. Maybe I've only played the shit ones, but being swindled into "Here is a science fiction, space themed RPG, in which you spend 99.9% of the game in the most generic fantasy setting imaginable" even once has made me pretty fucking cagey about the rest.
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>>3930844
This is the plot to 1, 2 and 3. 2 at least it's only 70% of the time.
>>3919539
Pretty accurate. 2 is great, the rest are mid to boring even. I'm shocked it keeps getting made. It blows me away they had a good thing going with 2, which got a gameboy spin off, but then 3, 4 ect none of them touch 2. They just use the name to sell games that are vaguely similar like a mountain dew flavor.
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Only played SO1 and 2 and it's just Tales but made by 3 retarded ex-janitors from Wolf Team who had good reasons for leaving the team(being retarded).
No reason to play either when they are inferior to even bad Tales games in every way and the same is probably true for later games.
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mmmmm I never beat the first one on the snes to the point where I defeated the bonus dungeon; that was super tough. Thinking of revisiting it, and just choosing the worst characters possible to make it extra challenging.
Who should I go with?
BTW my favourite thing about the first game, is that if you wait for a long enough time, you can get a skill that when you level up, saves you points for investing in future skills.
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>>3919539
This exactly describes my feelings about the Tales of franchise.
As for Star Ocean:
I like the first and the remake of the second Star Ocean.
I played those several times already.
3 and 4 are a pretty mixed bag and I don't know any of the new titles.
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>>3920069
4s a great game. It got a ton of hate when it first came out because console war shit creating lots of sour grapes, but I'm glad after a couple ports general opinion is coming around on it. Mass effect being big at the time helped 4 alot and it's the only game in the series that feels like an actual Sci fi adventure instead of a fantasy rpg with some Sci fi bobs and bits. And all the characters are incredibly fun to play as its battle system is still unmatched for an arpg.
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>>3928142
>The inspiration there is incredibly obvious if you're familiar.
I'd argue it goes past inspiration to straight up rip off. The Federation is blantantly taken from star trek's Federation with a similar backstory and the planet with a timegate on it is taken straight from the City on the Edge of Forever one of Star Trek's most popular and well known episodes. Ronyx is basically Kirk
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Decided to check out Second Story R on a whim and I feel silly for not giving this series a glance when I was really into JRPGs. It's pretty good.
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The intro movie had me actually laughing out loud at the music. It's as if the composer was trying to find the *exact line* something crosses from inspiration to plagiarization, and he just barely squeaks under it
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