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Riviera looks like peak “friendship is magic” dialogue-spam snoozefest JRPG Atlusslop, which is why I’m 12 hours deep and actually having fun.

JRPGs bore me. I hate menus and I don’t grind. I don’t care about anime-trauma bonding.

So why does limited items + VN pacing + weeb aesthetics hit so good this time?

Explain. Also, recommend more JRPGS that will make me hate the genre less.
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>I don't like being spammed with dialogue
>Which is why I like Riviera
lmao. Anyway just go play a dungeon crawler like Etrian Odyssey.
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>>3925281
Grinding isn’t really a thing you have to do outside of super old games. It’s not really a part of the genre, it’s just memetic to it.
That’s not to say you can’t grind, but that’s really just a way for stupid people/journos/Children to still see the story when they can’t interact meaningfully with mechanics
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>>3925281
I wish the angel bro didn't die
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>>3925281
>why does limited items + VN pacing + weeb aesthetics hit so good this time?
The VN pacing is constantly moving you forward, feels like there's no downtime, dialogue is snappy and to the point. The small level design makes it feel like you never wander around aimlessly looking for the next "event trigger".
The combat makes it feel like every choice matters, if you're playing on the original or hard difficulty anyway.
It's a TIGHT game like it's characters
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how to get good at that game it's hard af
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>>3925281
Limited resources and constant forward momentum are both good and most RPG devs won't implement either.
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If I'm looking to emulate this game again, which is better, PSP or GBA?

>>3925858
I remember getting stuck against a hard encounter because I ran out of weapon items yet my inventory was filled with the extremely situational or useless armor and support items and I rarely opened chests because of that, (and also because I was afraid of traps, the QTEs were actually kinda difficult from when I last played) which is an issue because most of your weapon items will come from chests.
The entire game is based around item/inventory management so you have to make sure you regularly toss items that aren't effectual or are close to being depleted so you can keep making room for items that actually matter. If you fill up your inventory in the tutorial you will actually screw yourself over because the game won't even give you the chance to make space for the basic starting weapons when Fia and Lina join. So always be tossing those basic mob drops.

I feel like the game would've benefited from some sort of economy where you could trade all your useless junk items for worthwhile ones, but that might make the game too easy especially if you could hold currency. This does give me ideas for an consumables-based RPG that's like a spiritual successor to Riviera but also balanced around trading and crafting.
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>>3928949
Probably the Steam version
the pc version of yggdra union (from the same company) has a lot of life improvements
But to deal with the gacha item boxes you might want save states, the psp version was fine
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>>3928949
Get for Switch, or emulate it for switch. It's got lots of cool features.
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>>3929002
>99-item inventory
You didn't beat the game
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>>3929004
so true, I'm playing it on original mode though not 99-item mode
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>>3925281
why didn't more games copy Riviera's style/mechanics? there's like no down time
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>>3925281
I haven't thought about this game in years. I had to PSP version and I loved it, I should give it a replay. It reminded me of Persona except minus everything I don't like about persona. It had tactical turnbased combat, character building scenes, light VN elements BUT without the annoying grinding or slog endless encounters and a sense of restraint when it came to dialogue (the endless WORDSWORDSWORDS of Persona gets old really fast.)
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how's Yggdra Union and the other games in the series? Do they hold up well?
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>>3925281
>>3929023
some PSP games are like this
its kind of like Japan went on a crazy "cut off the fat" during the early mobile phase and that resulted in a lot of DRPGs and stuff like FF 13
It has its pros and cons, I don't think it's inherently better
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>>3929309
Yggdra Union is my favorite of their games, and a solid tactical RPG in general.

Knights in the Nightmare is such a unique game that it's hard to rate. Personally, I ended up not being especially fond of it, but it was an interesting experience.

Gungnir has great mechanics, but is a bit weak otherwise. In particular, it has some of the least satisfying endings I've ever encountered. I still enjoyed it, and I still reccomend it if you really like the mechanics of games like Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>3925281
I learned about this game by flipping through the official guide in a London Drugs over 20 years ago, and fell so in love with Cierra's design that I kept the game in the back of my mind ever since. I finally played it this last year and was very impressed, it's unique and engaging and I liked basically all the characters.

I still have a thing for witchy girls, too.
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>>3925281
Riviera brings me endless happiness just by thinking about it, no other game has given me this kind of warmth.
I really
REALLY love it, seriously
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>>3925281
>Atlusslop
>Atlus
>im having fun.
you're a schizo AI bot. go back to russia.
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>>3932202
Genuinely what the fuck are you on
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>>3925281
It's just a gimmicky harem dungeon crawler.
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>>3934078
>a challenging harem dungeon crawler
exactly what Im looking for
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>>3932202
OP is retarded but it isn't even Atlus. They're the publishers, not developers. It's Sting. The same people who thought it'd be brilliant to combine danmaku, touch controls, and Tic-Tac-Toe
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>>3934115
>>3934115
show me where OP said Atlus is the dev. I'll wait.
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>>3925281
Dept Heaven games are one of the few games that I think should be completely dismissed just by appearances alone.
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>>3933919
SERENE
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>>3934182
Why are you gay?
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>>3934224
Because I apparently don't like generic weeb shit with a thick coat of pretentiousness.
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What the heck is pretentious about ribiera
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>>3925281
>Also, recommend more JRPGS that will make me hate the genre less
Anon, have you tried playing 1997's "Final Fantasy 7" for the Playstation? It achieved widespread popularity and fame, even among non-JRPG fans.
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>>3934391
I feel like no one who uses that word here actually knows what it means.
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>>3934458
I think it might be a bot, that sentence was too dum to be uttered by an actual human
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>>3934594
and spelt the name of the game wrong
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>>3934612
SHUDDUP
I WON'T BE SWAYED BY YOUR WORDS, IDIOT.
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>>3934594
>dum
>>3934612
>spelt
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>>3934151
>Atlusslop
Retard. If you can't actually express your complaints don't open your mouth.
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>>3928949
Depends on whether you like the PSP sprites (the same that the PC remaster has). Personally, I like the PSP sprites much less than the GBA/Wonderswan sprites. However, the PSP/PC releases are fully voiced and probably play better.

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