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FFVII created an entirely new storyslop genre of game. It was the seed planted that led to slop like FFXV and Xenoblade. Back in the 90s people played games for the combat, go read a book if you want to storyfag, keep it far away from my JRPGs.
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>>3934548
As argued in the thread, it started the trend. Yes it's combat wasn't completely bad yet, but it started the trend of story being prioritised over solid combat. People glaze VIs story, but the gameplay was still the main focus.
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>>3934578
Ah yes the piss easy JRPG that can be beaten by toddlers with a huge focus on story and characters is fundamentally totally different than the one on PS1 that just happened to be much longer. Smartest final faggotry fan.
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>>3934546
>be me
>get two years in prison in '96
>brother telling me about how good the new final fantasy is
>get out early in '98
>go to store and bring copy of VII to counter
>nerd at the counter tells me Tactics is better
>ignore him
>take VII home
>it's decent, but doesn't live up to the hype
>pick up a copy of Tactics a month later
>it's way better than VII
>pick up FF anthology in late '99
>play V the first time
>it's also way better than VII
>pick up VIII
>it sucks, I sell it to a friend and vow to never played any of the new games ever again unless it's a Tactics sequel
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>>3934546
FFVI did have an extensive story though, but I agree I didn't care for how they decided that the beginning Midgar section had to become the template for many things they did after. The worst thing about this game is that it gave Motomu Toriyama validation to somehow get an entire career despite being the biggest fucking idiot in the industry while people who actually knew what they were doing like Ito and Matsuno were left out to dry.
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>>3934638
>you're trying to tell me people only played it for its combat?
That's a straw man. I never said that. VI was great because it had a decent story but was still focused on gameplay and combat. VII turned the series into hours of cutscenes of emo Japanese teens taking on an epic battle with a mandatory emotional death of a main character to make teenagers cry with sad piano music, leading to straight up soap opera slop jrpgs like kingdom farts
>>3934638
>99% of battles in FF6 could be won by holding down a single button with a turbo controller
Horrible bait. Go back. Even suggesting that people are playing a 16 bit game for the story is borderline brain-dead. It basically like saying you watch porn for the story.
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>>3934659
>a mandatory emotional death of a main character to make teenagers cry
Haha yea imagine if the golden age of 90s SNES final fantasies which were only played for the gameplay and not the story had done this. That would’ve been crazy
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>>3934546
xenoblade is lightyears away from slop. Gameplay is twice as good as ff12 and the story is on par.
ff6 has dogwater combat compared to ff5, ff7, ff8. Unless you're playing bnw patch. FFT combat is also sevrely overrated after the first chapter, tactics ogre one vision >>>>>>>
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>>3934830
is it? FF12 is quite fun despite being mostly brain off. It was a new take of the genre so it makes sense that its a bit bare bones. Xenoblade takes a very similar engine and does way more with it. Better questing, better side content, better exploration and significantly better combat. The ludonarrative way they allow you to complete quests before accepting quests is something that more games should utilize. Like FF14 gives u the same psychic lore but in that game you don't get get the ludo elements
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>>3934546
I agree. Tactics is the only non SNES FF that is worth playing. People who claim they are replaying the NES games are lying contrarians. The people that like 7-16 are brain-dead.
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>>3934860
materia system is the second best system in a mainline game after ff5. The junction system is close but u get too strong too easily - FF8 is still pretty playable due to how the limit breaks work and revolver trigger being fun.
FFT is a storygame, tactics ogre gameplay mogs it too hard. FFT stops being a tactical game and starts being a power trip simulator too soon.
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>>3934588
You guys are both retarded, but dubs-waster is the dumber one by far.
>>3934611
>Play ff1 at friends house
>like it
>play ff4
>love it
>play ffmq
>its ok
>play ff6
>love it
>play ff7
>amazing
>emulate ff5
>holy shit it's like 4 but better
>emulate ff3
>drop it
>play fft
>favorite game ever
>skip ff8
>still never played it
>play ff9
>boring slog to the end
>see ff10
>looks like a game for girls and gays, getting too old for this shit anyway
>see ff12
>single-player MMO
>FF4 remake DS
>like it
>>3935065
>FT stops being a tactical game and starts being a power trip simulator too soon.
The point at which this happens is heavily dependent on the player and how much they choose to grind.
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>>3934577
Well, kind of, but you forgot to explain that it's an insanely fucking shitty version of 6 with terrible maps / environments, ugly art, insanely shitty combat mechanics (even though 6 literally had bugs in its stats...), anti-fun materia system, meaningless equipment and absolutely jaw-droppingly terrible plot and dialogue. There were otaku / anime dorks even in the 1990s who thought FF7 was too juvenile and cringe.
All of the worst stereotypes about anime were present and loudly. FF7 is like going on Tinder and getting some granny with bad diarrhea to shit in a blender for you, whizzing it up with raw garlic and Draino, and then just fucking drinking it and holding it in your mouth for a bit before swallowing.
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>>3937072
>7 was wildly popular and everyone loved it.
Which only proves it was watered down to appeal to the masses. The cream rarely rises to the top. You won't here normies talking about games like Lufia 2 or Shining Force 3 even though those games are superior to FF7.
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>>3937048
>All of the worst stereotypes about anime were present and loudly. FF7 is like going on Tinder and getting some granny with bad diarrhea to shit in a blender for you, whizzing it up with raw garlic and Draino, and then just fucking drinking it and holding it in your mouth for a bit before swallowing.
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