>>3935936
Porom starts with higher strength than Palom

>>3935936
SMT VV if we count only the HUMANS, Yoko and Tao are all magic/support based
The crossbell duology of trails, since Rixia is an assassin dodge tanker and Noel is a gunner, the other two are casters

If you poke the Atelier games you will find a lot of them too

>>3935936
What would be the point of gimping female characters in a video game? It's just taking away choice. For this reason, almost no one does it. I can't think of any RPG's where women have significantly different stats.

>>3935936
>sludge quarter
>lin and nina both outclass ryu in every possible category, from damage to utility
no, thanks.

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>>3935952
When they are kids, that happens. After puberty, it diverges. They are both literally 5 years old.

>>3936011
>only humans
No. If they are humanoid, I don't care if they are a demon or part lion, they cant be stronger than the men.

>>3936012
>what would be the point of role playing as a woman in a role playing video game?
Go kill yourself.

>>3936032
I know, but look at her. Wouldnt she also shreek if Ryu got hit? Love that.

>>3936032
>from damage
Utility is one thing, but If you think anyone even comes close to out damaging Ryu you didn't play that game.

>>3936051
>>what would be the point of role playing as a woman in a role playing video game?
>Go kill yourself.
why do you make them tanky warriors then?

>>3936051
>I don't care if they are a demon or part lion
So the point is not semi--realism , just anything female to be weaker?

>>3936096
Anything humanoid female.
I don't want people cheating. I understand that female spiders or lions sometimes are stronger than their male counterparts, but to use that as an excuse is BS.

>>3936081
Wdym?
I don't play games where the girls are bad ass boss bitches stronger than men. I have a penis, and self respect.

>>3936102
Have you considered playing a game for homosexuals like Baldur's Gate 3 or maybe FFXIV? Seems like it'd be more your speed. Or better yet, go to a gay board, or a gay porn site, or install Grindr or something. Work out your sexuality before gaying up boards like this.

>>3936102
>I understand actual thing exists, but it makes me look silly so I ignore it
A fascinating way to live

>>3936103
This is the most reddit dave rubin thing I have read all day.
>oh you don't think women can be bad ass boss bitches who can woop a man's ass?
>you must be insecure about your sexuality
>oh you don't like gay people
>Thats because you are secretly gay
such cancer, just die already

>>3936107
If it was a spider taking on the form of a humanoid girl, it makes sense that it would lose its superior strength given the body it is inheriting. If it was a girl taking on the form of a spider, losing its humanoid feminine characteristics, sure I'll grant you your strength boost, but since Im talking humanoids, that really is besides the point.

>>3936112
>reddit dave rubin

You have to reference outside material because you can't defend your own homosexuality from being pointed out to you. I don't care about the gender percentages of tanks or strong characters in video games because I'm not gay. It just doesn't come up.

I can't think of any reason someone would be so desirous of more physically strong males in media that he would made a pedantic thread on an RPG board than if he were gay. It's pretty obvious. Don't try to gay-sass me when all you're doing is sassing your own gayness.

>>3936340
>I don't care about the gender percentages of tanks or strong characters in video games
Back to /v/ and gtfo of /vrpg/
You remind me of the guy who is like,
>durrr I liked the part when yoda used the lightsabre

Its just clear that all RPG means to you, is playing dressup on 3D models so you can power fantasy of you strutting around in high heels while weilding a 900lbs hammer.

>>3935936
faggot thread? Here I come

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>>3935936
>I'll start: Final Fantasy IV, 1992
Rosa has higher Strength and Stamina than Edward at an equivalent level
Look it up Sissy

>>3936420
The sickly man who is bedridden most of the game, grew up on drinking ana's toilet water, too frail to even stand without collapsing, has less strength than rosa?
Doesnt count.

>>3936448
>The richest, best fed, and most able man in the country
>he was bedridden only after he stopped being playable (and after suffering a pretty heavy injury), so the stats have no relation to that
Does not look good for bois

>>3935936
Women in the GBA era have less CON/Aid total than men.
What does that mean? That they usually lose spd from using the Steel/Silver weapons.
Generally everyone have 25 CON/Aid total where men have higher CON or evenly spread.
Women on the other hand have 20 total CON/Aid and they tend to have low CON and higher aid making them effectively more of a ferry support unit.
Though you have a one or 2 outliers but in general the GBA era of Fire Emblem is considered sexist/based.

>>3936012
>think about muh HECKIN' CHOICES
>also make everyone a genderless blob with no differences whatsoever

>>3936340
Holy cringe.

>>3936402
You're very gay. Just come out of the closet already. Is it really that difficult to not constantly think about how there aren't enough burly men in your video game and that some characters would be better if they were burly men? Because that's gay.

You're gay. Admit it to yourself instead of repressing it all over /vrpg/.

>>3936484
>Is it really that difficult to not constantly think about how there aren't enough burly men in your video game and that some characters would be better if they were burly men?
Textbook projection.

>>3936454
Edward was CLEARLY a s0yb0y. He was a coward who was raised eating mushy applesauce and vegetables. Why else would Tellah be upset with his feminist daughter running after him?

All the other guy characters would be chewing on the flesh of imps and other creatures: they would get the proper nutrition and wouldn't become permanently debilitated after a shipwreck. So his frail weakness is canon, and he was never meant to be a tank in the first place.

>>3936484
Try harder.

>>3936489
I'm not the person who made the argument that he was opposed to any game that doesn't make its tank archetype character a burly man. It's not projection if I'm bringing up your behavior.

I noticed you haven't tried to dispute the point that you're a repressed homosexual and simply attack me personally. Listen to the fag inside of you already. He's trying to tell you something.

>>3936474
Making females the same would take away choices. I don't get anons logic.

>>3936502
I'm the OP. You are responding to a different anon.

I told you to
>Try harder
Because you bait is tired and low effort.

>>3936504
It's sad that you think a genuine attempt to get you to stop deluding yourself about your sexuality is bait. Why is it so difficult to admit that you are a homosexual to yourself?

>>3936506
Not liking manly women is gay?

>>3936506
Blocked, and I've reported you to the mods who I happen to know personally on Rizon.
Enjoy you're ban.

>>3936507
Expecting "manly women" to be replaced with muscular men is gay.

>>3936499
Yang got debilitated by the same shipwreck. And he needed special Fairy magic to heal up, unlike Edward

>>3936517
No, yang lost his memory and was found in Baron Town Inn with those two guards, under the influence of Golbez.
He ended up getting debilitated when he fucked with the babel tower after killing the dark imps, in a huge explosion; that debilitated him. The shipwreck was nothing to him, seeing he was tip top shape fighting you.

Did you happen to get shipwrecked too because your memory is about as good as his.

>>3936511
>over 90% of men are gay
That's some fucked up homo fag logic.

>>3936529
You can make up numbers and people who agree with you all you want; the fact is that you care about the lack of representation of muscular men in video games, which is very gay.

>>3936574
>the fact is that you care about the lack of representation of muscular men in video games, which is very gay.
Why is it gay to have media where men are strong and women are weak? Are you jewish, by any chance?

>>3936578
The distinction here is that you are fetishizing the aspect of having strong men, the obsession with which is gay. You still haven't said anything against this idea that you are gay. For all anybody in this very gay thread knows you could just be a gay man trying to seduce normal RPG fans into wanting more gay agenda in RPGs. With threads like this you are simply grooming people.

You cannot argue against the idea that you are gay because you are. There is no need for personal attacks and distractions when you could just admit that you are gay. Stop denying it.

>>3936420
OP FUCKING DESTROYED

>hmm, let's check in on how /vrpg/ is doing on a Friday night

>>3936593
No I refuted anon's post with facts and reason. Nice try samefag
>Edward was never a tank
>He was known to be frail
>He was known in the game to be weak and pathetic
>Therefore he does not violate the principle of having girl bosses be stronger than a guy
>Rather the story here is more about him being so pathetic that he is weaker than the women in this game.

>>3936587
Just answer instead of begging the question you lazy kike. Is it gay to have masculine men and feminine females in media or not?

>>3936653
That's not the question we have been arguing. You decided to retreat from defending your desire to only have strong muscular men as tank characters for your own gay ends. I don't understand why it's so hard to admit that you're gay and that that lived experience informs your desire to not have women play the tank archetype in video games. It would be very brave and strong for your case for gay representation if you talked about how isolated and angry you feel when you have to see female tank characters.

>>3936598
Not a samefag and the point is you've gone off and moved the goalposts like 69 times to cope
>female characters can not under any circumstances ... have higher strength than men
right there in the OP fagface.
>under any circumstances
I don't care about the particulars of your shitty game, aside from that it clearly doesn't fit

>>3936673
Is it gay to have masculine men and feminine females in media or not?

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oh, now this is a topic I like. Too bad some "allies" decided to latch onto it.

Anyway, I've liked the concept of weaker females since Gothic. After playing through it I wanted to start again as a female, like I did in Morrowind, but couldn't even though the main character has no personality. I figured it was because women are weaker but, no, screw that. Let me play a female and give me the same stats as one of those slave girls. I'll still beat the game.

But it's too bad that no game lets you play as a weaker female underdog. Even in games where you can have low strength it still doesn't matter since you can just go dexterity/agility and still be good in melee or with bows.

That said, I might like if girls had other advantages besides some arbitrary dex/magic bonus. Something like girls having a party size of 6 compared to guys with 4 or maybe girls have a 2 frame faster recovery time after dodging and such since they're lighter and so have less momentum. Maybe they're just small and so have a smaller hitbox and nothing else.

And no, I'm not counting high difficulty games that only let you play a female. There's no context if you can't play a male as well.

>>3936753
That is not the debate. Nobody ever said anything about that except you when you got beaten on the fact you are a huge fag. Stop running away from your sexuality.

>>3936686
You are arguing like a jew. Clearly there is a letter of the OP, and a spirit of the OP. The spirit of the OP isn't talking about 5 year olds or frail princes or old men, obviously, but you be like,
>well all of new york is my living room if I run a string around the entire city
Time to move past that type of thinking.

>under any circumstances
As in, there are no circumstances that Rydia, Rosa, or the twins can outstrength Cecil.

>shitty game
Its an excellent and iconic 1992 game.

>>3936772
You sound exactly like a bot beat for beat btw.

>>3936783
Every attempt to personally attack me is another confirmation you are making to yourself that you are gay. You choose not to admit it, but it's the truth. You will wake up and still be a fag tomorrow.

>>3936757
Absolutely.
Like in FF4, I like the idea that Rydia is a summoner;
When facing the men who murdered her parents, her only recourse is to scream and call an titan to create a massive rift in the ground causing a natural disaster. She is then left helpless, and is kidnapped by cecil, dragged across a desert to an oasis, and kind of have to make a gamble, that she is safest with a dark knight who only killed her parents, but refuses to kill her.

>since Gothic
Never heard of it.

In regards to actual roleplaying, yeah the smaller hitbox for sure. They shouldnt be "faster": women tend to be clumsy like picrel, and dexterity is kind of bullshit if you are dealing with archery damage. Their way of attacking people is through things like gossip, or getting other men to do their bidding. "Charm" attacks, or casting "spells" kind of fits the bill.

>>3936786
>Every attempt to personally attack me
I'm not talking to a person lol.

>>3936793
Then why insult what you believe is not a person? It is a sign that you are insecure about this subject that even a simulacrum of a person's speech calling you gay can rankle you to the point of attack.

You can live in denial if you want. But you can't deny your true self. You are a gay man.

>>3936054
>but If you think anyone even comes close to out damaging Ryu you didn't play that game.
but I don't want to be forced to do NG+ because I used Dragon Mode

>>3936499
Worst decision of Final Fantasy IV was not having Edward rejoin the party for the dark elf dungeon.

>>3936906
He'd just hide when the dark elf brought down the business

>>3936799
/reset

>>3936782
See you’re moving goalposts again because you were shown to be wrong. It’s /v/tard inability to recognize reality

>>3937210
No, this is what you are doing:

>Leviticus 18:22
>thou shall not lie in the bed with a man as one lies with a woman
>>Anonberg: Ah but that does not then preclude that I can not lie in the bed with a man as one lies with a man!
>Leviticus: No i'm just saying, don't be gay
>>Anonberg: Oy vay now you are moving the goalposts! Is that also an Ad Hominem? What if its not a man, and I lay in the bed as one lays in the bed with a child boy?! That should be perfectly fine too
>Leviticus: No thats obvio-
>>Anonberg: BUT THATS NOW WHAT THE LAW SAYS!
Its not clever. Its just tired at this point.

>>3937218
The entire Old Testament is just that pilpul being repeatedly BTFO by God again, and again, and again. They literally never learn.

>>3937221
Exactly. One of my favourite parts of the NT, is when Jesus's disciples are going
>oy vay should I give 10% to charity?
>if I pay taxes, does that count as charity?
>And if I pay taxes, maybe I shouldnt pay them because the romans are pagan
>and what if I pay 20% this year in taxes then I don't have to give charity next year
>And what if I just -
And jesus out of total frustration, grabs a fucking coin, shoves it in front of their face with the heads side, and shouts at them:
>TELL ME WHOS FACE IS ON THIS COIN.
>>uh. uh.. uhmmm... C-C-easar...?
>Then render unto Ceasars what is Ceasars and give to God what is God's!
Boom.

>>3937218
You’re the nigga literally claiming a man isn’t a man lmao
You’re here arguing that it’d be straight to eat Edward’s ass because he doesn’t count as a man in your homo-eyes

>>3937249
>You’re the nigga literally claiming a man isn’t a man lmao
sissies aren't men.

>>3937249
>Shitty bait
Thanks for the bump

>>3936103
>>3936340
>>3936484
>freudian pathologizing
frankfurt school over here lol

>>3937562
You can say that you disagree without having to say something is Jewish. If you can't it's because you've mistaken "heterosexual" for Jewish.

>>3936881
Just say you didn't play the game sis. You can easily complete it on a fresh playthrough if you know what you're doing and also the game is literally impossible without using dragon mode.

>>3938018
>it's easy is you use a guide

>>3938033
You don't need to use a guide. You just need to realize early on that the devs are constantly going to try and fuck with you and make your life miserable and approach the game accordingly. Most people who get their shit pushed in by Dragon Filter get rekt because they're approaching the game like a traditional JRPG.
If you haven't realized how you're supposed to play the game by the time you reach the 3v3 poison fight in town, then you are going to be SOL restarting whether you like it or not.

>>3938055
>get rekt because they're approaching the game like a traditional JRPG.

it is a BoF game, why should they expect something different?

>>3938033
>guide
Literally all you have to do is spend resources. DQ is a game that requires you to use both items and your limited transformation liberally. You can't beat the final boss while hoarding 99 elixirs.

>>3938107
>limited transformation
>use liberally

kinda a paradox statement

>>3938136
Only the last point matters. If you made it to Chetyre below 99.99% you didn't use it enough.

>>3938140
I know the bullshit of "you need to hit 100% D Counter to beat the final boss" bullshit despite the rest of the game it being the game over condition

>>3938148
>bullshit
It really isn't. If played the game you'd know its incredibly clear what you have to do.

>>3938159
I rented BoF5, I never beat it due to bad game design

>>3935936
Just nutted on her back.

>>3937218
>>Leviticus: No i'm just saying, don't be gay
More like don't fuck dudes, why do you think there's a lot of Christian* (Cath or Prot) homos in celibacy right now?

>>3938581
Don't do that to my frail daughter.

>>3938107
Most people don't know that Dragon Quarter is meant to be played through multiple times, by design.

>>3938822
to be fair, that aspect of mandatory NG+ wasn't really conveyed well. Not to mention it's the first BoF with any form of NG+

>>3938856
Mandatory NG+ or looping is already a rare thing nowadays, even among roguelites.

>>3937846
>You can say that you disagree without having to say something is Jewish.
"autistic chauvinist" is slightly more accurate than jew in your case.

lmao @ all the 55kg pasty white boys in here weaker than the average medieval peasant wife working the farm

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>>3936420
>>3936454
>faggot has to be disingenuous and compare someone who's explicitly never fought a day in his life to someone proficient in wielding a bow cecil knows whats up

>>3939270
So it’s straight to cum in his ass and give him a reach around is what you’re saying

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>>3935936

>>3939270
>Name the most recent RPG where female characters can not '''under any circumstances''', be tanky characters or warriors or have higher strength than men