>>2320279
... brother they didn't even released dlcs yet

>EU5 and EU4 being so close
i have one wish... only one...

Unfortunately I got a job so I'll play it after they decide on what the game should be for long enough I can play a campaign

>>2320279
I would play it but I only have 8GB RAM

>>2320279
civ6 bros, huge W

>>2320279
Seems fine to me.
This time after Civ6's release, Civ5 had gone back to being on top.
Took 2 years for Civ6 to finally beat Civ5.
Yet here Eu5 is still ahead of Eu4 already.

Would probably do a lot better if more people could afford upgrades to run the game.

The unreal engine is a crime against humanity.

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>>2320279
>Less players than Stellaris
Lmao

>>2320320
Maybe the retarded piece of shit devs might consider optimizing their crappy games now since building a PC will soon cost almost as much as buying a fucking car.

Is Civ VII really that bad?

>>2320279
It's their flagship; they will keep it on life support no matter the user base.
Besides, active player base doesn't matter, Johan already said it is one of their best selling title. They already have the money from the players.

>>2320279
HOI4 and Civ6 chads, we won

>>2320469
Yeah been thinking maybe that could be a short term good outcome of this.

If you really want a laugh look up Total War Pharoah and Total War Troy current players

>>2320342
In fairness, Stellaris doesn't really have any alternatives. All Paradox's other games are historical GSGs and Stellaris is a space 4X. All the other space 4X games out there are turn-based, except SINS, and SINS plays a lot differently anyways. So if you want to play a game like Stellaris, you really only have Stellaris as an option. Whereas if you want to play a game like EUV you could play EUIV, Victoria 3, Victoria 2, etc.

>>2320279
They need to bring back missions and the people will come out, turns out the people crying about them were a tiny minority, oops

>>2320285
If I remember right at one point MH Wilds did dip below World (although never Rise) so it would be funny for this to be round 2 of that

>>2320279
>no one wants to play
>it's higher than EUIV
This isn't Twitter where you get paid to ragebait, so who is cutting your checks?

I find eu5 more fun, needs more ways to know how to trigger historical events than checking the files, also with a mod every nation has advances now.

>>2320501
harriet tubman

>>2320279
Why would they abandon the game?
It had a successful launch and, sure, I don't think it's as good as EU4 and I don't have much interest in playing it, enough people have already bought in that Paradox's DLC financial model should work

>>2320590
>Total War Pharoah
need to play that, not many bronze age games....

Am I retarded? I found EU5 easier to get into than HOI4.

>>2320279
Until EU6 comes out

>>2320983
Nope. HOI4 has a fuck ton of mechanics added and tuned over the years. EUV doesn't even have that many mechanics, it's just difficult to figure out what the fuck is going on.

Now, if they had the balls to actually simulate an economy with potential scarcity and were able to make the AI able to navigate it...

>>2320991
>hoi4 is le complex
Nigger, please.

>>2320861
Missions just had abysmal balance. The rewards were so stupidly powerful that avoiding them was comparatively unfun. Of course, that's mostly because playing around them was plenty of fun.

>>2320993
>I found EU5 easier to get into than HOI4
>HOI4 has a fuck ton of mechanics added and tuned over the years.
>DURRR I CAN'T BELIVE YOU SAID HOI4 WAS COMPLEX
when people say retarded people don't have the capacity to realize how stupid they are, they're referring to you

>>2320996
Nigger, please.

>>2321005
I'll make it simpler for you.
You don't have the required literacy to read a single sentence.
That is bad. Work on that.

>>2321016
Don't make it even simpler or you'll find it too complex to articulate lmao. That said. Nigger, please.

>>2321020
You don't even know what to respond to.
You think you're in a pissing contest. No, I'm telling you how it is. You're going to run into this issue and you'll realize I was right. You are barely literate.

>>2320279
I have insufficient GPU to run it.
Because you need a gaming GPU for PDX game. Jesus fuck, this company is beyond retarded.

>>2321027
My man, I could be swinging from a tree and picking my ass for edibles right now and I'd still be superior to the dumbest of bitches seething and foaming at the mouth over muh hoi4 is complex. So yeah. Nigger, please.

>>2320279
>Why nobody wants to play a strategy game that requires a high-end gaming rig to run at all and has no option to downgrade its graphics to ease on the CPU, GPU and RAM usage, allowing to just chug numbers, rather than visuals
No idea anon. A total mystery.
Whoever convinced them to do that 3D crap engine change with CK3 should be fucking tortured to death.

It does have an option to use a 2d map, the game runs like shit anyway

>>2321047
It still has the impossible-to-turn-off shader for water and map textures that's simply poorly written and wastes absurd amount of memory. If you code around it , the game actually runs smoother, despite nothing else changed.
I fucking miss EU3 era. They were at the point where they knew what they need in their engine and what makes their own games tick, without shit added to please the execs from the board.

>>2321042
Again, you're trying to have a pissing contest. You're under the false impression I'm engaging in it. I'm not judging you here. You don't have basic literacy if your reading comprehension tells you the message is
>muh hoi4 is complex
Genuinely, that's not good. You should practice reading.

>>2321055
>actual seething and coping
You got any other deflection or gay cope to try and shift from you being filtered by HOI4? My sides bro. LMAO even.

>>2321080
I guess you genuinely can't understand the idea that I'm not engaging in your pissing contest. I just told you off once because you tried to start shit. I just realized where it came from in the first place. Just try a reading comprehension test for ESLs to figure out your English level.

>>2321090
And yet you keep replying with your passive aggressive bitching. I must have struck a nerve lol. Just stop making up excuses and get gud bro. It's a very simple and easy game to play.

>>2321096
If you interpret it as passive-aggressive because you're insecure as fuck. Explains why you are so intent on having a pissing contest. I'm telling you, take a reading comprehension test to figure out your English proficiency level.

>>2321098
>no u
And yet you keep replying with your passive aggressive bitching. Alright sister, I'll show you mercy and stop bullying you. Suppose life is already hard for a sperg dumb enough to be filtered by HOI4.

>>2321118
>no u
Think carefully. Was that what I said?
I'm being really genuine. You aren't very literate.

just get a room already

I'm waiting for them to fix the stupidly aggressive AI. It was fine on release but it's unplayable now with France and Bohemia blobbing all of Europe.

>>2320288
I was playing the game with 8 GB RAM just fine until I very recently upgraded to 16. Basically made very little difference except for load times. If your GPU/CPU are semi-decent you'll run the game without any problems

>>2320977
don't bother, it doesn't do it justice

>>2320279
It's too fucking complicated. I regret buying it day one. I just can't get into it. Bring back mission trees. Feels like imperator with Victoria economy shit.

>>2320279
>they made CK2 free to play, but it doesn't isn top 15

>nazi simulator is #1
lol everyone hates jews

>>2321492
That's because CK2 is without DLCs and thus unplayable

>>2320599
Stellaris is such a bad strategy game, it's openly talked about as an RPG - by its only fans.

>>2320279
Nearly 20 years old Civ V more played than euroach universalis

Kek

>>2320279
>Civ 5 Has more players than modern titles.
The state of gaming is rough.

>>2321487
Too complicated? It's simpler than EU4, to the point that it is excruciatingly boring to play because there isn't enough enough gameplay to fill the much slower flow of time. The economy is "complex" but is meant to be automated, so you don't even interface with that mechanic at all. The complicated simulation shit is all in the background, requiring no input from you and having little to no impact on what you do.

>>2320861
The people crying about missions always pirate the game even when Paradox gives them what they want, and the people who actually bought the game liked missions. Appealing to the 4chan crowd is always a retarded business move. You won't get their money either way.

>>2320599
>All the other space 4X games out there are turn-based, except SINS
You forgot Distant Worlds.

>>2321862
And Star Ruler. And, I believe, Stardrive

>>2321813
the game badly needs more options for partial automation, especially in diplomacy, there are some things the ai just shouldn't be doing

>>2321813
Playing around with the economy could be complex, but the issue is they pussyfooted around with it too much. There's no real scarcity, there's no real oversupply, there's nothing to really play around except making profitable stuff.

>>2321813
the player is forced to play like AI, and the AI refuses to play like a player

>>2320599
>In fairness, Stellaris doesn't really have any alternatives
Are you fucking retarded?

>>2320279
Wtf are those Three Kangdoms numbers

>>2322040
Biggest TW launch ever, just nobody wanted to buy the DLC.

It's too buggy atm. Otherwise, a great platform to build upon

>Florryworry went back to eu4
its fucking over

>>2321813
So, you are saying its is issue is being too much like a simulation?

>>2322059
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No way, what did he say? I do not believe you for a second. No I will not check.

>>2320279
Same as Imperator they will give it 2 years.

>>2320342
Stellaris is the only GSG I've seen my normalfag acquaintances talk about

>>2322319
Sweetie, people R*ddit are saying player numbers don't matter and it is perfectly normal to have lower player numbers than CK3.

>>2322464
And that game is shallower than my backyard pond so it figures

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>>2322319
So we need to:
>Fire Johan and kill the studio
>Put someone competent in his place to tard-wrangle the project
>Revamp most mechanicst in the game
>Rebuild the IU
Sounds about right.

Just realized they made a big fuss about dynamic flags and yet I've never seen anything but the standard flag for all countries. What even causes them to change?

>>2322614
I think i've gotten a flag change as otoman every time the age has advanced

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>>2322607
>And that game is shallower than my backyard pond so it figures

>hire modders for the last 10 years
>flagship game is a skeleton with no content
What are they using the modders for???

>>2331310
MEIOU devs are extremely autistic.

>>2331424
current meow and taxes is an actual fleshed out fun mod though
Could use way more work sure but its better than eu5

>>2322040
Chinese

>>2331447
there is MEIOU mod for EU5?
What is the point if Giggau is part of EU5 team?

>>2331454
no for eu4

>>2331447
>Could use way more work sure but its better than eu5
lol
lmao even

>>2331497
eu5 has the same mechanics but they simply don't work
When they did work in M&T

>>2320279
Suppose we'll know how fucked they are after that megapatch comes out. If it doesn't get a pretty big player uptick from that I'd say its Imperator situation again.

>>2320279
EU5 looks promising. I might check it out in about 5 years. Think everyone by this point has wisened up to the fact that paradox doesn't release finished games.

>>2320501
It's peak DEIslop

>>2331447
Too bad you need a NASA PC to even run that mod

>>2321044
people dont want to play it because its a shit video game not fucking performance

>>2320279
How will it take until ESLs learn English properly?

>>2320342
I blame it on the UI - some much clutter

>>2320599
Stellaris has distant worlds and distant worlds 2 as an alternative. I think it's really an issue of successful audience entrapment.
The people still playing stellaris are deep in dlc sunk cost. Those that have quit saw the writing on the wall long ago and never got entrapped by dlc.
EU5 has a similar issue in that people remember EU4 and were entrapped by it, so a decent portion are not touching EU5 until they see more of what it'll look like down the road.

>>2335044
I tried distant worlds and it's just too autistic for a more general audience. Casuals that like stellaris won't play it. Also it still has high base price and also has a lot of DLCs so the barrier to entry is just as high.

>>2321508
Most people play it for mods filled with gays, ponies, and socialists.

>>2321529
People need to learn to use creamapi.

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>>2320863

>>2320279
>no one wants to play..
I want to play it but I know I need to wait a few years first

>>2335667
If a game is worth playing, it’s worth paying for
If a game isn’t worth paying for, its absolutely not worth my limited time

>>2320279
>make (or at least expect) people to spend 6 gorillion dollars on DLCs
>wtf, they don't all instantly want to throw away the old thing and buy into the new thing at day one?
this the just desert that paradox deserves for their DLC treadmill disguised as a game

>>2336255
You're a moron, and EU5 had more content on release than EU4 with all the DLC.

>>2335981
????

>>2335667
I want to use it but I don't want to download DLCs from shady-as-hell Russian forums

>>2336333
Go to bed Johan

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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/europa-universalis-v-has-been-nominated-for-the-swedish-game-awards.1899612/
Can someone with an expendable gmail message Swedish game awards and tell them tinto is spanish?

>>2337076
They don't care because paradox is swedish

>>2335241
>it still has high base price
No games ever reduce their base price anymore because they can just increase the sale instead.
>has a lot of DLCs
Universe is the entire game with all DLC's. Dw2 has 1 major soon to be 2 major dlcs and like 4 race packs. Minute compared to the 30 some dlcs of stellaris most of which nickel and dime core components.
>it's too autistic
It's actually less so than it seems.

>>2337257
And paradox tinto is a spanish studio

>>2337266
Yeah but it's still under paradox so they don't care.

I rage quit and uninstalled after battles stopped working (after spending ages trying to 'fix' them) , one side just auto wins with no losses on either side and the other retreats. I thought it was my mods but it started doing it without any running still.

>>2321047
>>2321053
Sorry to ask, and it may be a stretch, but do you know of any mods that can help with that? This game treats my PC like a toaster. I have DDR4 ram, and I can’t upgrade ram without upgrading my motherboard and if I’m going to do that, I may as well upgrade my CPU and so here I am………. It’s hard to find a balance between a machine that can run map games and elden ring

>>2320501
It's one of those games that come with revolutionary ideas to change its own basic gameplay loop, release the game... and then each and every patch is about reverting to status quo, because those ideas turned out to be shit. But because the game was build on them, this makes reverting super-hard and the end result is a complete shitshow

>>2347608
I thought that you were describing vic3 until I checked who you were replying to.

>>2320279
I've consumed EU5 so far from just watching map time lapses on YouTube, is there just no way to reduce the border gore in this game so far? I figured there'd be some states system like in HOI4, but obviously less flawed than the system in HOI4 since they've had a decade to improve on it, but it looks like the AI is able to draw borders based on tiles and just make nonsense blobs.

>>2321425
>I was playing the game with 8 GB RAM just fine
I've been working with just 16 GB of RAM on my main build for the past 10 years, every time I do a new build it's always 16 GB of RAM and it has never been a bottleneck for anything. I don't meant to tell people to eat the bugs when I say this, and I do agree that current RAM prices in our AIds-infested environment are unacceptable, but I'm seeing all these kids crying they can't do 64 GB RAM gaming computer builds and I really don't understand why they need so much.

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>Play Ottoman campaign
>It is, understandably, very easy
>Play Knights Hospitaller campaign
>Never got a Knights campaign off the ground in EU4
>Extremely easy to do so in EU5
>Own most of the Balkans and Anatolia by mid 1400's
>Economy is in permanent runaway success mode despite me just leaving it on automate and not thinking about it
>Campaign feels absolutely identical to Ottoman campaign other than the start being slower
>Various differences on paper, such as Rise of the Turks situation, Catholic Church IO, etc all amount to literally nothing and don't distinguish these two campaigns at all

There's no fixing this. The foundation of the game is too goddamn boring to ever turn it into something good at this point. They've got all these mechanics like situations and IOs, but none of them actually do anything. Click on them and you get a popup window with a little bit of irrelevant info in it where you can maybe click on one thing that slightly modifies your nation in a way that you'll never notice for a few years. So you just ignore it all and expand like crazy even if you're playing as a OPM like the Knights. Pathetic lack of differentiation between nations.

>>2347989
How is this any different than EU3 or 4?

>>2347989
just wait for the DLC

>>2348006
in eu4 you stack modifiers so there's a ton of ways to win. Play a shitpoor country like prussia but win with a super strong army, play russia and fight with paper units with 1 million force limit, play austria and win with a hundred subjects, play spain/portugal and throw around big dick colonies, etc

The game has better playercounts than Vicky 3 ever did and yet that game is still getting updated. And EU5 has a much larger sunk cost than V3 for them to give up when they still have thousands of players.
>>2320288
8GiB RAM has been working fine for me. Make sure you have an NVME drive though. Playing the game on a QLC SATA SSD gave me 5 minute load times and horrible 10 second long stutters when opening some menus. Switching to a TLC NVME drive completely fixed it.

>>2348006
EU3 was very slow playing, you had to wait for war justifications, negative stability kneecapped you, and the tech groups was a better way to seperate nations than the institutions.

>>2348529
>make a brainlet filter
>it filters brainlets
Honestly, I expected this. Didn't everyone?

>>2320501
Real question is: is Civ VI that good? Asking as a civ v absolutist

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Question for all you that have played eu5, people commonly criticized eu4 for being shallow as a puddle, wide as an ocean. Does the same apply for eu5?

nah eu5's alright i withdraw my criticism
need the rite pair of gumboots before i want to splash around init agen but

>>2348529
Currently it averages 2/3s of the playerbase of eu5 which is falling. And eu5 costs a lot more to develop.
And I dont think Johan can fix that decline since he keep fucking around with stuff like armies (making them worse) instead of fixing player favourites like Japan

>>2348777
Yes but the puddle has the potential to be deeper. Basically come back in 2 years or so.

>>2348777
Launch day EU5 is unambiguously better than current state EU4 and has the potential to become even better with time.

>>2320279
i would play it but im not sure my pc can run it, thanks to the giga gross hre. anyway i've heard it runs like shit after 100 years, and that the ai is garbage so im just gonna pass.

>>2348783
go back to posting in gaming forums in 2004

>>2320279
Current active player base
>EU5: 8,188.7 (+0.09%)
>EU4: 7,724.4 (+0.24%)
Holy shit, singularity is getting closer.

>>2353815
Turns out what people want IS blobbing and creating Grobgermanivm, and not micromanaging shit that you can put on auto and praying that you hit some kind of hidden requirement for the decision to convert a culture group. The game being borderline unplayable in the late game due to no Paradox employee ever having played for more than 100 years doesn't help.

>>2320279
I have tried all of the recommended nations so far (and the Mamluks), once you get a grasp of the game it is even easier than EU4

The only improvement over eu4 is trade, the rest is just fake systems to pretend it's complicated
At least it has better potential for modding

>>2348777
Eu4 is more boardgame autism where eu5 is more spreadsheet autism.