https://steamcommunity.com/games/813780/announcements/detail/532121412867983041
Preview of DLC

Wardogs in the main game when

>>2326905
Hopefully never

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first for coolest unit in the game

>>2326883
Why do you hate TheGhostmaster? What exactly is your problem? There already is a thread, post there.

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>>2326922
Fuck off pajeet shitposter.
You made that thread malliciously

Another day another chinese player cheating on the ladder. Clearly there's been some new hack distributed over there.

>>2326972
>pvp
why do you do this to yourselves

>>2326982
I'm playing with a full team of friends

>guy wearing feathers and not much else
>tanky unit
how

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>>2326883
>buy a $900 computer to play aoe4 because I felt i was "too late" into aoe2
>actually the game feels like shit to play
>thought it was gonna be easier to learn due to not having to do micro lot of micro shit early like walling in feudal
>turns out instead of walling your base you just die at any rush as a noob
>constantly out of resources despite following build orders
>lack of basic QoL like seeing exclusively how many villagers you have in your entire pop despite being the newer game
>no drop off key
>no "you're about to be housed" sound and the housed sound is barely noticeable
>miss hard aoe2 despite not having that many hours on it
>install again
>have a lot of fun
did I fell hard for a reddit meme of "aoe4 is a lot more casual friendly"? I only play rts pvp exclusively btw

>>2327577
>Listening to Reddit
>Ever

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i hope they buff handcannoneers when the new dlc comes out

How fucked is my computer if it turned off all of the sudden while playing the Thoros campaign.

>>2326883
What the fuck is wrong with you
Please don't split an already slow general
>>2326313
>>2326313
>>2326313

>>2328898
the other OP is some jeet-obsessed shitposter posting other people's screenshots as his own

Can we please call this thread /aoe2g/?

>>2328978
Everyone talks about Age2 because its most active but it cna still be used for 1, 3, 4, Mythology, and Online

>>2328966
and? You're a woman or something? Why do you care?

>>2329024
>implying

>>2329168
>Why do you care?
Why YOU care so much to post other people screenshoots that are not yours?

>>2328898
>already slow general
This is probably one of the fastest threads in the board lately, specially with the upcoming civs speculation

>>2331086
I didn't post it, take your meds. I just asked a simple question

>>2331091
>I didn't post it
Sure you didn't, jeetposter

>>2331132
>jeetposter
AFAIK that's TheGhostmaster. You're confusing me with a lot of people.

>>2331150
You being this obsessed with TheGhostmaster is kinda funny ngl

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This is the only good AoE2 thread desu

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Clowning the clowner

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Might as well post it twice
You ARE supporting ACCM this wololo, right? AoE2 is a millenial game.

>>2331898
I'm supporting Liereyy and Sebastian

>>2331901
why

>>2331905
Cuz I like Liereyy and I will support my fellow southamerican Sebastian

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PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

act like a daut
think like a viper

>>2331898
i'm only ever against hera, no matter what, i just want him to lose.

>>2326896
> pre colonial America
> mounted unit

>>2332862
Based devs saying new world colony era indians are the same as medieval armies

>>2332852
that sucks rooting against the guy who won't stop winning

>>2332862
because the mapuche are relevant for fighting the spanish and its more of a unique identity than the other infantry/archer civ

>>2332862
Justified in this specifric case, the Mapuches DID steal the Spaniards gimmick, tamed horse relatively quickly and used against them
Also it's not like it was exclusively of them, northamerican plains natives also did extensive horse usage against colonizers

Always remenber horses are already tamed, not really hard for natives with a lot of contact with the wild to easily tame them, and in places with extensive plains, it's a very logical thing to do.
Amazon, Andes and Centeramerica natives were the exception of the horse rule as far as I know

>>2332862
>pre colonial America
they represent post-colonial americans actually

>>2332862
El Condor Pasa smiles upon them...

DLC prepatch when

>>2339838
Noob

I'm just tired of DLCs desu

>>2340343
I dont really mind buying dlcs for this game but there are too many civs

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AoE2 is great, but I went back and played the age of kings campaign for the first time since I was a kid, and holy fuck does the campaign in this game glaze muslims. Muh peaceful, advanced and intelligent muslims being attacked by backwards Christian barbarians!!! Was this really necessary? Id understand portraying both sides as morally grey but it straight up depicts islam as a bringer of knowledge and civilization and Christians as barbarians.

>>2340507
>Id understand portraying both sides as morally grey
it straight up says that toward the end the saracens start turning into exactly the monsters the christians made them out to be (as a direct result of the violence between them)
but also reynald really was just a freak like that

>>2340507
It's not just the age of kings campaign either, el cid is more of the same.

>>2340507
Every campaign is based from the perspective of the civ you are playing, so they are going to glaze themselves and talk about how awful the enemy is. Also the victors wrote the history books.

AoM just introduced the myth-tech Thorned Walls which allow walls to deal damage to nearby melee units. Like Orc buildings in warcraft 3.
That's the sort of technology I was expecting for the Tupi or another civ (like when people spam Polynesians).
Something that takes a mediocre building they are limited to, and makes it a nasty suprise for people who aren't paying attention.

>>2340763
>allow walls to deal damage to nearby melee units. Like Orc buildings in warcraft 3.
Nearby melee units or melee units attacking it? Because the first is closer to the demon hunter's immolation than spiked barricades.

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>>2340763
Does it have any visual effects in AoM? It might be the scale of War3, as Age2's buildings are relatively small in comparison, meaning there'd be a LOT more spike-added visual effects, but it is quite clear to players if Spiked Barricades is active

>>2340763
That couldve been an upgrade to the palisade walls that costs a bit of stone instead of having stone walls directly

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>>2340507
>>2340570
El cid is the worst. The Muslim imams teach the backwards European priests about religion and science, this is literally how the game describes it. I think western libs mistake the Persian Islamic golden age for all of islam under the arabs. It's literally a warrior cult founded by a warlord that took child brides, their "golden age" was nothing without Persian knowledge.

When is the next sale? I wanna get some 4 DLCs

>>2341049
>The Muslim imams teach the backwards European priests about religion and science, this is literally how the game describes it.
This actually happened, though. Notice that we use fucking Arabic numerals for math. Arabic alchemists played a big role in setting the foundations for later European alchemists to start inventing something we might recognize as science. I could go on.
>image
Okay, now let’s see the map of battles of Christian conquest, such as the Reconquista and the Northern Crusades and the Saxon wars.

>>2341225
Arabic numerals greatly simplified the process but Europe was doing just fine with roman numerals. Laughable concept that muslims invader "civilized" the christians, give me a break.

>>2341225
>Notice that we use fucking Arabic numerals for math. Arabic alchemists played a big role in setting the foundations for later European alchemists to start inventing something we might recognize as science. I could go on.
The Muslims temporarily preserved European knowledge from classical Antiquity, before the inbreeding fucked their gene pool.

>>2341366
The true aryans?!

>>2341433
The arab golden age always was kidnapping Persians and converting them with Islam so that they could have access to Mediterranean information

>>2341505
>converting with
>persians in the mediterranean
Your are borderline retarded and should be banned from ever accessing the internet

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>>2341505
>always was
Learn to spell before attempting to belittle Arab achievements, loathsome subhuman goblino

>>2341290
Astronomy, Al-geebra, the scientific method, modern medicine, chemistry, optics, etc and etc... were NOT """preserved knowledge"""

Not only judeochristian euroaches belittle Muslim achievements many of them outright stole them and erased the actual innovator from the credits

>>2341549
Guess they were seething about arabs making progress in all fields while they kept VGH'ing about how Rome was the pinnacle of Europe and they couldn't reach the same level of greatness because "muh barbarians"

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This is the Muisca wonder.

>>2341565
It's cool

>>2342039
it's a latrine. Their biggest cultural achievement is a big latrine

>>2341565
Humble, but I like it

>>2342070
>latrine
Based, Pajeets could never

>>2342070
it's the fucking sun temple dipshit

>>2342458
my apologies, first world historically relevant nations make an effort not to make their temples look like a designated villager shitting spot

>>2341565
At least is a building that existed, unlike the Tupi and Mapache wonders which is their generic huts sitting atop a hill/waterfall.

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>>2341553

>>2341049
The spread of Islam brought about the end of the Dark Age in Europe. If Islam had not tried to bring their faith to Europe then Europeans would have remained like Sub-Saharan Africans for another 1000 years.

idgas about longer queues anymore, make a ladder exclusively for arabia
im tired of all these meme maps and having to close the game from the steam library

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should i preorder the DLC? i really want to play as my ancestors, but usually the DLCs are always bugged at launch

>>2344995
Not saying it WON'T be bugged at launch but the water rework at least was even used in tourneys and none of the new civs introduce completely new mechanics other than the gechua healing so it should be ok.

>>2344995
I pre-ordered, I will just play the campaigns at the first days after launch
Bugs matter less when you are playing by yourself

>want to play rts with people
>1v1 one friend
>i stomp him, no competition
>1v1 other friend
>he stomps me, no competition
pain

>>2344995
>supporting microslop

>>2345085
2v1 other friend with one friend

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>Black over dark background
>Try to play the first Mapuche mission only to crash to desktop
Lmao

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>Female monks
Lmao
Yeah that checks out

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>>2345517

>he would rather play with a christian/muslim monk that diddles little kids than a qtpie mapuche girl

>>2345551
If it matters, I hate both parties.

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Meme potential

>start game
>instantly get all achievements for the new dlc
based devs, won't ever have to buy this garbage to 100% the game

Multiplayer results so far?

>First mission is a risk-style one
Hell yeah

The voice acting is really bad though.

>all the negative reviews are about achievements

>>2345731

i play all the campaigns in hardest difficulty available by default, so i would get pissed if i cant get the achievement properly

damn im 1400, played the first mapuche campaign and i got my ass kicked
i dunno if im rusty for not playing ranked in 6 months or that difficulty is actually challenging
im excited now

>>2345775
>They send Archers, Conquistadors, Hand Cannoneers, Knights, Long Swordsmen and Spearmen against the player, and may also deploy Battering Rams and Mangonels as the scenario progresses.
Use your settlements and skirmmax, make monks to convert knights and swordsmen, use the enemy units you convert/your own siege to destroy siege

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I love a well executed ram push

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>>2345775
Literally just wall up, spam towers and garrison towers with archers
Make 1 mangonel per chokepoint and you win

Legendary difficulty btw

>>2345617
how is this not patched yet

>>2345617
>start game
>didnt get all achievements
man did i miss it....

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why even have this tab if i have to replay the entire level in order to choose anything different

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>>2345788

i dont want to sound like a pedantic asshole -which probably i am anyways and i own it- but im chilean and brown: i bought this DLC to HUMILLIATE the Spanish. So no, im not walling and making towers, i am taking all the villages and killing these assholes.
I will try again tomorrow when im ready for it

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>settlements just use the mining camp sound

>>2345860
...?
Settlements have an entire new sound, what you are on about

>>2345865
i'm literally placing them in the editor right now and they just use the mining camp sound
what the fuck

>>2345867
>Editor
Try playing the campaign and click on the settlement, you should be able to hear the new sound

>>2345874
that was where i first heard it
idk maybe if i reload my game it'll be fixed

for combat elephants should i go armor first or bloodlines first?

>>2345941
If if you're facing pikes or knights, bloodlines
if you're facing crossbows or plan to raze defensive buildings, get armor
Husbandry is also important, but more important if you're facing crossbows or monks

>>2345857
El Chileno menos raro del board

The insult "boludo" came from the bolas riders, and it's used to call out someone on their retarded naivety, in this case, a bunch of indios fighting gunpowder with paleolithic weapons.

>>2345959
Then why are gauchos famous for it when the rest of the cowboy world gets revolvers?

>>2345959
Boludo and Pelotudo are such widespread used words but I never really questioned it's origins
I know the origin of the word Carajo at least

>notice update is out
>read the new civs' tech trees
>muisca - herbalism: makes archers and champi move faster
So the Colombian civ has a unique tech where you use cocaine? Because that's the Colombian herb that makes you faster, right?

Its up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOuiqHY0EE

>>2345959

i dont know why Argentinians clench or even talk about the mapuches so much: every single relevant part of history and war of the Mapuche happened in Chile, every hero was born there, and the spaniards and argentinians never gave a single fuck about them because the VERY few mapuche who crossed the Andes always went for to get pastures for their cattle for a few months before coming back to Chile.
The argentinians only use them to pretend they have some kind of glorious native past or to pretend they had to conquer their absolute empty wasteland nobody gave a fuck about 500 years ago.

>>2345971
its an old ass insult and malones were a problem all over the southern cone

>>2345971
>i dont know why Argentinians clench or even talk about the mapuches so much
We don't. I don't know what gives you this impression.
t. Argentinian

Boludo is a funny insult however, hard to not use it

>>2345970
Oh, but the Tupi can't have cannibalism in their tech tree, right FE?

how come i never see burmese elephants

>>2346036
Because Arambai and Monks exists

>>2346004
Biggest let down of this DLC

>>2345965
too lazy to load gunpowder

>>2345788
LEGENDARY victory for India

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When in doubt just spam gorillon castles lmao
Bolas Riders really hard counter Spanish

So the champi warrior line is OP (especially the muisca one) but falls off in imp. The blackwood arches are OP but falls off in imp as well. Settlements are strong af.

Also did they nerf the incas just to make the other champi civs more pay to win? The food discount is far weaker than 15% recovered from dead units.

>>2345941
armor always, get bloodlines absolutely last, giving +20 hp to a unit that already gets like 200 hp is nothing. armor then attack, get husbandry/first attack earlier if against monks and bloodlines absolutely last.

Swedes and Danes (Vikings split) will be the next DLC, according to investigators on the Aoe2 forum (also posted on reddit).

I hope it happens.

Tarascan civ Archer/Blacksmith
Can train Arblasts in Castle Age
Harvests from shore fish 50% faster
Outposts give +1 range to ranged units within LoS

UU: Keriti (Plumed Archer but Mayan get Skirmisher UU instead)
Castle UT: Trade Network - Trade Carts and Trade Cogs gain +1 gold for every Blacksmith tech researched
Imperial UT: Infantry Blacksmith Attack upgrades gives 50% Attack bonus to Ranged units
Team Bonus: Towers cost 5 less stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JoXW0UxvB8
great well-thought out dlc once again, cysion

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Heh.
Feels slightly unsatisfactory.

>>2346120
Or maybe a split + Frisians or Saxons?

Anybody have a list of new factions added to Age of Empires Definitive Edition in the order they were added?
Mostly want to know the ones added between "Chronicles Battle for Greece" and "Chronicles Alexander the Great".

>>2345551
for me it's the Rabbi screwing over everyone

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>>2346210
That would be the 3 Kingdoms, Khitans, and Jurchen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Q6LK5fBb8

Ornlu interview with the FE devs about the new DLC

>>2346149
What would satisfy you?

>>2346352
thank you! wish you could sort the faction icons by "time added" when you pick one.
or rather, make it sort by "age" to play on the game's title.

>>2346357
does he ask any actual questions or is he just licking corpo boot the entire hour?

>>2346004
>What's the unit refund

>>2345551
I like historical accuracy so female pajés grinds my gears.

>>2341565
>Muisca: actual wonder, no actual fort (castle)
>Mapuche: actual fort, no actual wonder
>Tupi: get neither
Nothing remains for the brazilian.

>>2341049
Retarded post. There were crusades in Iberia, Balkans, Central Europe, Baltics, etc.

>>2346564
Look at the comments and you'll get an idea.

>>2346588
>eating humans gives you wood and gold

So the Muisca are snorting coke to go on a high speed murdering frenzy while the Tupi are eating the corpses of their fallen comrades. Metal as fuck DLC

>>2346624
You can either reuse their weapons and clothing or sell them for goods.

>>2346624
well those humans are made from food and gold so yeah

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>>2346608
>actual fort
Nah, that's an inca building, whose expansion ended around the Maule river. The mapache never built anything more complex than their straw longhouses and earthen forts. The tupi castle is a VERY creative interpretation of pic related.

>>2346624
>eating humans gives you wood
Calm down, /d/

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>>2346641

>>2346632
>Nah, that's an inca building
yeah but it’s an inca building the mapuche occupied and used isnt it?

>>2346654
It’s like the Tagut don’t get included because the Khitian took them over after they got driven out of the eastern territory.

>>2346657
it’s the same premise as the huns castle
they didnt build castles so their castle is a castle they stole from somebody else
i have no idea what this has to do with the tanguts getting shafted

>>2346632
>Nah, that's an inca building
An inca fortification, case in point.

>>2346657
Not what happened at all. The tanguts were chilling in their own little corner until they decided to kill a mongol envoy.

ok here is my million dollar idea
stylites as a monk tower that converts units that get in range

>>2346660
They go their UU and wonder coopted into the Khitian as the Western Liao were Khitian ruling over the surviving Tangut.
Rather than the main Khitian-Chinese empire of the Eastern Liao.

>finally reach +1100 elo
>proceed to lose 6 games in a row and back into low 1000s
ok you piece of shit garbage game, i get it, i wasnt 1100 worthy and just experienced a matchmaking fluke
does anyone here have any tips to escape 1000 elo hell? I've been here for months

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I still find funny how the new architecture set is the four disparate civs rolled into one, that's economical. Hell, even the new regional guy looks like he belongs to one of the four civs with each upgrade.

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>>2346765
Similar thing with the Africans having mostly Malian architecture but in imperial at least you can see a little bit of Ethiopian architecture. Or how the Asian set has a Shinto gate on the monastery and mostly just looks Japanese. Or this official Burmese preview, pic related, using what to me is clearly the kamakura daibutsu from Japan, representing Amida Buddha who isn't even worshipped by the Burmese. This kinda thing is hell for autists who care about this stuff.

So if I got this right:

Mapuches = Plains natives
Tupi = Jungle natives
Muisca = Mountain natives

>>2346758
make vills
clean up your build order
cant really give good advice cuz i dont know what you are doing wrong without a rec and i have very little to work off, just try perfect the basics.

also spent your res quickly and dont over queue units.

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I can tell I will be spamming gorillon towers in this campaign

>>2346769
My god now I remenber the silly idle sword stance of 2handers back in the original version of the game
That and skirmishers always holding their javelins up

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>>2346564

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>>2346856

>>2345941
always armor

>>2346564
>>2346856
>>2346857
Yeah, it's an ad masquerading as an interview

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Blackwood archers are incredibly powerful, the DoT stacks so hard it becomes pretty much an instakill, not too different from compbowmen

>>2346120
this is not going to happen because vikings is an aoc civ

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>>2346120

>>2346933
They die to siege so easily though.

>>2346765

I think hey used Hearttt as model of how a South American bicep looks like.

>53.5% of players have the destroy a ship with a melee unit
>Only 9.6% have the raze 200 buildings with Tarkans
Uh, I would have assumed the first one would be rarer. I got the second by the third Attila mission

ever since phosphorus came around there are lots of wannabees trying to be the next phosphorus and going for cheese strats
play meta or dont play ranked at all, this is so boring man

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Brutal, was a slog of a mission, once again carried by Blackwood Archers

>>2347361
>play meta or dont play ranked at all
Spoken like a true metaslave, damm the people that dont want to repeat the same thing for the 5439857939th time and try something new

no fucking way 4chan now forces me to disable ublock to post

How viable is it now FC conq and use donkeys to gather every relic while conqs keeps enemy in base and snowball?
>>2347373
Same. Won't. Blue Clover is forever.

>>2347376
im pretty sure donkeys cant pick up relics, thatd be busted

>>2347392
>he lacks critical information
:)

>>2347397
yea i got 500 hours and i still dont know how every civ works

>>2347376
Conqs are so OP and extremely opressive in castle age you can make anything work in that stage of the game
So the answer is yes, it doesn't matter, you're getting carried by conqs regardless

>>2347399
>i still dont know how every civ works
Brother it LITERALLY said in the most recent patch notes
Apply yourself

Anyone enjoying the extended dark age champi battles?

>>2347412
I have not had anyone do this to me yet, though if you small wall your lumber camp and goldmine you should be fine, you don't even need gold if your going scouts

>>2347412
Nobody has done this to me but I've done it to a few people, they are broken like making scouts in dark age.

>>2347376
It was already meta before the patch

>>2347361
Get fucked metaslave, queuing up right now to phospheru just to spite you.

>>2347454
But not with Missionaries.

>>2347403
even hera has opened the fucking techtree in tourneys kek
this is why i dont understand people who want the devs to keep adding civs, theres a shit ton of content already that would take 1000s of hours to experience

>>2347458
I just want a Vikings split, that's it. Then no more civs. Remove the 3K civs too.

>>2347458
Civ bloating will continue until the meme list becomes real

>>2347462
Saw some schizo-posting about an Easter egg scandinavian flag in the dlc patch notes. Gives me hope

>>2347468
you mean this >>2346642?

I'm genuinely convined every online space including thread is filled with shills whose only purpose is to generate "hype".
Since the new flag update everyone suddenly wants a viking split.
Before tthe last mestizos everyone started wanting South America. Same with Age of Mythology.
All Viking shit is 99% the same and they don't need a fucking >spleet

We need a Celts and Britons split first. Welsh, Scots, Irish, English are needed now to offset mudhutters.

>>2347495
>regional tech: sheepshagging
What effect does it have?

all i want is for the USA to be added and handcannoneers to be buffed

>>2347495
Nope, Vikings split is more urgent since Swedes and Danes are way more relevant than Welsh or Irish.

all i want for aoe2 is (You)uuuuuuuuu

>>2347502
>all i want is for the USA
Hopefully never, we already have enough nigger civs as it is

I'm getting filtered by the second El Dorado mission, bros...

So new civs also get Xolotl warrior if they convert a stable.

fucking LOL at the new dlc being marketed literally as 'resist le colonizer!' how do you cucks even cope?

>>2347496
villager production time 20% longer.

>>2347503
Swedes weren't a thing during the game's time period.

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>>2347552
>Read the mapache campaign intros and outros
>It ends with the injun epically defeating le evil spaniard in single combat and razing Santiago, then dying of his injunries after having his revenge for dramatic effect
>In reality, Valdivia was captured and killed (most likely cannibalized) in Tucapel (which is the third scenario). Lautaro never managed to attack Santiago, and the spaniards avenged Valdivia four year later in Mataquito, killing Lautaro right at the start of the battle and turning his head into a decoration for Santiago's plaza.
So this is how the other countries feel when FE makes fanfics out of their history...

>>2347558

the thing that pisses me off the most is that they could have killed Lautaro after the 4th map at least, and let the 5th one be like the french campaign -where the french wins the war in Joan memory- and make it about how the mapuche beat the spaniards in a decisive battle in 1598 in Curalaba, which caused a domino effect where the spanish lost all his forts at the south of BioBio and were forced to propose a truce to the mapuche and never try to conquer south ever again.

>>2347558
>injunries
lmao

>>2347495
Britons MUST be split into Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria, and East Anglia. It is absoluetly essential for the game.

>>2347558
aoe2 campaigns always had unreliable narrators that were either embelishing stuff or straight up lying to make themselves look better or their ennemies worst why are you upset about that shit now ?

>>2347666
Because it's his country, anon. Learn to read.

>>2347552
What would you expect a dlc where you play as tribes that resisted spanish colonisation to be marketed as?
I swear you people get more retarded with each passing day

>>2347552
>'resist le colonizer!'
I mean... yes? Southamerican natives DID try to resist the colonizers, that what happened in real life
Are you just dumb or a shitposter?

>>2347726
>>2347798
To his defense though, isn't Arariboia all about allying with the colonizers against a different set of colonizers? That's not resisting.

>>2347810
Yeah, and?

Is it true that vikings lost demoship but got fireship? Because with hulks that just seems like a pointless nerf.

when people say AoE4 is more palatable for new people interested in MP, what exactly are they saying? what's the actual differences between 2 and 4? does 2 have jank mechanics like brood war? i want to give competitive RTS games a go but i'm deciding between 2 and 4

>>2347892
Age4 has a newer community, so you're dealing with 5 year veterans instead of 26 Age2 players
But some of the differences is that Age2 is more standardized across the civs, while Age4 plays with a lot of different things to make them more unique (sometimes at a detriment, meaning its harder to learn a new civ)
They both play with much of the same rulesets, just tweaked in different ways: Age4 has 100% accuracy (and tracking) while Age2 has juking. Age4 reduces monk conversions to AOE effects, while Age2 is every monk. Age4 ages up with a unique landmark, Age2 is a research. Age4 has unique units as equivalent replacements, Age2 had them (mostly) from the castle.
Age2's not jank but the pathfinding can always be better. I personally like Age4 MP, but Age2 still is great and an easier entry

>>2347503
>Swedes weren't a thing during the game's time period.

The Roman historian Tacitus was the first to write about the tribe in his Germania from AD 98, referring to them as the Suiones. Locally, they are possibly first mentioned by the Kylver Stone in the 4th century. Jordanes, in the 6th century, mentions Suehans and Suetidi. These names likely derive from the Proto-Indo-European root *s(w)e, meaning "one's own". Beowulf mentions the Swedes around 1000 A.D.

According to early sources such as the sagas, especially Heimskringla, the Swedes were a powerful tribe whose kings claimed descendence from the god Freyr. During the Viking Age they constituted the basis of the Varangian subset, the Norsemen that travelled eastwards (see Rus' people).

Source:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes_(tribe)

A few hundred Swedes famously painted themselves black and invaded Rome at night, and basically took over the Roman Empire. This was written about by Voltaire.

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>>2346120
>Longboat regional naval unit
>Danes retain the Berserk
>Norwegians get the Birkebeiner, a fast moving archer unit
>Swedes get Hirdmen, a heavily armored infantry unit
fuck yeah it's time to SPLEET

>>2347970
okay but who gets free hand cart

>>2347892
i never played age2 MP and just quit age4 after playing non stop for a year. age4 has more interesting gameplay dynamics due the amount of unique units, building, reseacher, etc, but a MUCH steeper learning curve. something that isnt talked about as much as it should be is the balancing issues. you can go aoe4world.com and look at the win rates for each civ across the leagues and theres a difference of a full 10% between the civs with the highest and lowest win rates. not to mention some civs are MASSIVELY easier to use at a given elo. also im pretty sure relic straight up lets chinks maphack. its a fun game just dont take it to seriously.

>>2348001
Danes which will just be identical to vikings in every way except name and knight replacement unit they'll share.

>>2347892
at babby level aoe4 has no boar luring and no food decay, so early build orders are easier (pro scouts are big micro but not mandatory)

>>2347489
all vikings need is a name change to norse
if swedes/danes/norwegians got added i would much prefer they were based off of the later christian period than have anything to do with the viking era
we already have romans and italians so it would be perfectly fine

>>2348008
at babby level aoe4 has extremely gimmicky civ and unit design while aoe2 has just a few regional units with simple ass bonuses like '+1 range'

>>2348014
those don't matter when you play 1 civ like a normal person

>>2348015
>Your opponents don't matter

>>2348016
Correct.

>>2348016
They don't. That's why I want to kill them.

>>2348018
>>2348019
You objectively have more chances to win against an opponent using a civ that you do understand how they work so you can actually counter them, such as destroying connector buildings vs abbasid

>>2348022
Specific matchups are really nothing you need to concern yourself with for the first 500 hours of either game

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>Use the civ maker to make a custom civ
>Game crashes no matter what
Of course...

>>2348024
>Just ignore the mechanics bro that makes the game more approachable

>>2348040
he's right though a civ 35% win rates vs a certain civ doesnt matter if you dont even know how to play the game in the first place.

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we had a good run

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>>2348066
>look it up
>first news article
>"Asha Sharma, formerly head of development for Microsoft's AI enterprise teams"

>>2348054
Learning how to play the game has to do with learning how the civ works. And AoE2 is easier to learn how to play a generic game since the civ differences aren't as drastic and a bunch of the weird shit like deer pushing and quickwalling are just efficiency increasers, not the base gameplay mechanics that set civs apart.

>>2348038
i dont think the fork has been updated yet
you're not still using the original site, are you?

>>2347891
Why would Vikings need demos when they have hulks, they are now fully capable of playing feudal age water with their 10% ship discount.
>>2348066
What does this mean for AoE 2?
3 more jeet civs?

>>2348089
>What does this mean for AoE 2?
Probably new subsaharan and pacific islander nobodies chosen merely for being matrilinear and not patrilineal.
Oh and no more S tiers because money.

>>2348089
Why give them fireships instead of demos tho?

>>2348098
Because old shitty UI.

>>2348098
I think the point of the water rework is that fires are water cavalry, hulks are water infantry, and galleys are water archers. That way it's less confusing for people who mostly play land and feels more complete.

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>>2348066
>>2348068
THREE MORE INDIAN CIVS!>>2348089 Damn it! beat me to it


>>2348078
The original site is still in maintenance so I used the fork posted in the other thread

>>2348104
Why not let Vikings the meso civ of water then? People have been using the excuse not having fires being part of their identity back when it meant being shit on hybrid maps, but now that it literally doesn't matter, they get to lose demos instead.

>>2348117
I'm not joking anon. It's literally the hardcoded UI.
Same reason the 3K don't have normal trebs. You need 2 buttons to allow for demos (one for demo one for upgrades) and civs with naval unique units don't have enough buttons for everything.
The exception even proves the rule with the Dravidians, who have the space because there is no Elite Therewhatever.

>>2348120
I still don't get why demos don't get upgraded with the other ships. Are they not "warships"?

>Look at the new campaigns online (because I didn't buy the dlc)
>They have the injuns ugly mugs for icons like the 3 chinkdoms campaigns instead of an artifact/miniature like every other campaign
Goddamn it, it's the little things. Please tell me they'll drop that trend.

>>2348125
:))))))))))))
Jokes aside, literally blame T90 and his autism about the dock

The game is boring now after the release of these new broken civs. Nobody plays anything except Champi drush and there is nothing you can do to beat it.

>>2348152
>Small walls on your wood/gold/berries
>Pump out scouts or pump out man at arms
>Don't make a range immediately
Champis are not a problem, scouts are miles better than a dark age champi and also better than feudal age champi, man at arms can fight them 1v1. I typically send my military straight to the opponents base because the build is tight and they don't have time to wall up making them very vulnerable at home, don't dive too deep with man at arms until you have numbers to match him, unless you can kill a villager. Countering it is easy

>barely a bump in player numbers
did it flop?

>new map pool comes out with lots of great fun maps
>friends keep wanting all the good maps banned and want dogshit like arena/arabia/nomad favourited
I need new friends

>>2347952
not civ worthy, we only extend such anecdotal mythological origin to mudhutters.

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>Had to 2v1 because buddy is rusty and tired
>Abbasid economy carries anyway
AoE4 is fun sometimes

Every day we get closer to complete joke additions like the Sami becoming real

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as a new player, is it a good idea to practice in skirmishes against the AI before going online? which map or settings should i use to best replicate pvp???

>>2348286
>is it a good idea to practice in skirmishes against the AI before going online?
Only for build orders the AI does not play like a player does, it'll teach you bad habits imo.

>>2348287
i heard this game is super punishing for new players so i'm very intimidated, as a layperson, i don't understand why you don't have placement matches

>>2348289
>i heard this game is super punishing for new players
As long as you know the basics of a build order and are comfortable with your hotkeys you really don't have anything to fear.
There's probably some cheese strats that will catch you by surprise but you'll learn.
pvp in rts games is always intimidating at first but once you take the plunge you'll realize that most people don't take the game that seriously and matches aren't as stressful as you thought they'd be.

>>2348286
Yes, even though you won't face actual micro it's useful to get a hang of it.
Try each difficulty and beat them once before moving to the next. After the last one try online.

>>2348361
is this applicable for both Aoe2 and 4?

finished lautaro on legendary , that was a fun campaign overall

I've missed most of the recent matches, is T90's league being played on the current patch and with the new civs?

>>2348377
It's not a LAN so it's not like he has much of a choice.
He has been worrying about it and the naval rework in stream too.

>>2348384
Not an enviable position to be in. Out of the siege tower and into the settlement, I guess.

>>2348369
There is no Age of Empires 4.

>>2348372
I'm enjoying Arariboia's mainly because the Tupi villager voice is pure sexo.

>>2348384
not like he can ban any of the new civs either cuz microslop is funding the prizepool and would nuke his shit if he ever dared criticize them

>>2348433
He's been saying time and time again they don't get paid for their opinions but he did replace saying stuff is OVERPOWERED or BROKEN by saying it's STRONG so yea.

>>2348435
yeah but you don't get rehired if you're a malcontent

The champi run animation really enhances the comedy of 3+ ugly bastards wearing burlap sacks and wielding wooden clubs wreaking havoc on your economy

Who's a good youtuber to watch for a let's play of the new campaigns? The only campaign content creator I know is Ornlu and his gameplay is insufferable. I'm not interested in giving any of my money to MS and Cysion

>>2348467
>Who's a good youtuber to watch for a let's play of the new campaigns?
Have you instead considered playing them yourself?
>t. Boomer

>>2348482
read the entire post before replying

>>2348467
I started replaying Alexander on Legendary and reminding myself of how stupid Ornlu's gameplay is.

>>2348489
>The only campaign content creator I know is Ornlu and his gameplay is insufferable. I'm not interested in giving any of my money to MS and Cysion
Again, have you instead considered playing the campaigns yourself? Why do you need to watch someone play them?
It's not like a tournament where you have to be highest level of skill, the campaigns can accomidate 7 year olds (like when I played AoK back in the day)

>>2348501
>I'm not interested in giving any of my money to MS and Cysion
means I'm not buying the fucking DLC you illiterate

I own the DLC, currently playing Lautaro. Campaign is ok, not the best neither the worst. But seriously, i dont understand why pro-players dont even fucking consider playing the campaigns for their youtube content. Its like free clicks and subs for your channel.
Theres literally zero competence in that space besides fucking Ornlu that is charming but fucking suck at gameplay.

so...did men de sa just not return in mission 3 of Arariboia ? his timer ended and he just not back

>>2348539
Viper has done campaign content in the past. But I think he does it when he feels like it, not necessarily when the campaign has just released.

>>2348546

Viper hasnt played a campaign in years, and when he did, he literally didnt gave a fuck about the campaign themselves, like it was a chore to do.

>>2348467
>check ornlu campaign
>first mission is a survive for x minutes slog
>pedro is 80's boomertoon saturday morning cartoon villain tier
>everything you do results in a cringe one liner quip from him you will listen one hundred times be the time you are done
I wouldn't even bother to be fair. Go work on your backlogged anime instead.

Considering the amount of custom campaigns and mods for all the games and versions of games in this series, and considering the amount of people who mostly play AoE for the single player, it's indeed weird we don't have more youtubers doing this kind of content. How's it just Ornlu?

>>2348541
alright redid the mission , do not capture the fortress back before Men de sa is back or else his script just get fucked and he dont spawn and durand will just destroy the fortress which might break the script further if thats not what break it

>>2348572
I doubt it's just him, but it's just that I have been subscribed to him for years and I don't see why I would search for another dude playing the exact same thing. I imagine most of the anons here are the same.

>>2348574
So, one mission gets fucked if you challenge yourself, and they gave everyone all cheevos for free?
Come on devs.

>>2348578
well it does make the mission more challenging as you bassicaly now alone for the whole mission but yeah that script breaking shouldnt happen

>>2348549
Viper isn't at all charismatic, all his videos suck.
He's funner to watch playing though.

I used to enjoy Twest's pacifism runs but I never watched a legit campaign run by him.

>>2348589
>Twest's pacifism runs
I miss them. Only one kill was left right? The mounted dude?

>>2348377
Yes and most players are banning the new civs, Mapuche and Tupi aren't really a problem, Incas can instant drush, Muisca get cheaper settlements and melee armor so you can't just make scouts to counter them, I have beat Incans with Mayans so I know what I am talking about and yes they do need to be nerfed (in Dark Age).
>>2348549
I don't think the newer campaigns get a lot of views, classics like Joan and Genghis Khan have a lot of views

done araiboia in legendary , was better than lautaro in my opinion

>>2348066
Microjeet nepotism, seriously 75% of the company is now jeet, from the CEO to the "independent" "advisors"
Saaaar superpower by 2030 saaaaar

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>>2348066
PAJEETA! RESUME SUPPORT FOR AGE OF EMPIRES III AND MY GIFT CARD'S CODE IS YOURS!

>>2348066
>jeets fire whites and hire other jeets
TheGhostmaster is about to become AoE2's director and you're crying? This is great news

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>>2348664
I blame this on you, jeet shitposter
You shitposted so much about indians you made this happen

This is all your fault

>>2348665
I have no doubt you will do great things for this game, starting with hindustani spleet to include your dalit tribe

>>2348673
No I'm pretty sure you are the one getting hired, only an Indian would be happy at these news, and you're the only one happy about it

>>2348625
I'm in the middle of araiboia right now and I'm finding the huge amounts of enemy units spammed at you to be really tedious.
I can admire the scripting from a technical perspective, but there's a bit too much going on for my tastes.

Pajeet civs will be made overpowered until the needful is done.

>>2348686
Make onagers

>>2348501
ESL or retard?

>>2348504
I really thought MS and Cysion were some streamers I never heard about
>t. Boomer

>>2348504
>means I'm not buying the fucking DLC you illiterate
Why would you want to spend your precious time on something that isn't worth your money? If the DLC isn't worth buying, then why do you want to watch someone else play it for you on Youtube? What the fuck is going on with you kids?

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I thought there was an achievement for stopping Santiago from being built. Meh, it was fun.
Overall, as a chilean, i hate the story they went. Valdivia should have at least died in the narration after the third scenario or at least the 4th. And the final battle should have been a fight that ended with the spanish asking for a truce, like it happened in real life between 1598-1602 where the mapuche and the spanish army agreed to a common frontier.
Old campaigns sometimes would include ridiculous changes to history, but the endings would be somewhat related to what really happened.
Anyways i rate Lautaro as B+, because Mapuche late game really sucks balls and playing against post imp power units is awful, and the ending of the campaign sucks too.
Also... why the fort is shaped like this?

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I'm honestly surprised at how poorly recieved this DLC was by the community, I just checked the steam store page and it's sitting at 48% Mixed reviews
for context this is the same score Three Kingdoms has

>>2348782

seeing the reviews most of them are: 1.history is not accurate at all, 2.Is too hard on Legendary or 3.Bugs
2 is complete retarded. Why the fuck are you playing a campaign in Legendary if you dont have skills to do it? and then you go complain on Steam? the fuck is wrong with you
I agree with 1 thought, theres a big difference between taking narrative liberties and straight up chaging history.

done with all three in legendary final verdic :
Arariboia > El Dorado > Lautaro

>>2347558
>So this is how the other countries feel when FE makes fanfics out of their history...
Now imagine how it feels to be a Celt
>1.75 actual scenarios
>Fanfic campaign ending
>Relegated to showing up as roadbumps in almost all campaigns appearances outside the Longshanks campaign
>No chance of ever getting an actual campaign, can’t even show up as protagonists in shit like V&V
>Also pure campaign focused DLCs are kill due to V&V despite it being a scenario pack and not a campaign focused DLC

>>2348782
A lot of peope just got the achievement bug and voted negative, or saw the open mic thing and voted negative, or got dark age champi rushed and voted negative. People are retarded

>>2348751
MicroSoft and Cysion is the lead dev on all these expansions since the HD days and the man responsible for all the retarded bullshit they shove into the game