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This has to be one of the worst focus tree layouts in a mainstream mod.

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>bit dot ly 3GPdwPD
General Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.

>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Modding
General article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.

>Text Editors/Coding
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
https://www.sublimetext.com/
https://code.visualstudio.com/

Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.

>https://github.com/
Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop.
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———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———
>Player Led Peace Conferences
Effectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944

>Toolpack
Gives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560

>Better AI
Swaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283

>Industrial Expansion
Adds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501

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And now, the news!
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Our first big drama of the year starts on YouTube, with one ‘Error Log’ publishing back-to-back videos criticizing TNO and GWR getting 50k+ views each. The GWR’s ‘cord ended up being raided apparently, and ‘Error Log’ was in kahoots with Loredad, other HOItuber to get his videos favored in the algorithm.

Oh, and TFR had a tiny update for Europe, too. Should’ve just been packaged with 1.1.
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>>2338263
>4 threads
how long to we get exiled to /vg/
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Please tell me the Lan Kir tree gets better because it's horribly generic thus far.
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>>2338312
I don't think so, and honestly I have no idea what EAW was thinking releasing something so plainly terrible. Granted, their mod development strategy really seems to be quantity over quality..
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>>2338270
>Should’ve just been packaged with 1.1.
No point in having us wait another year. Europe can always use more content, no matter how small. And on that note, if anyone hasn't checked out the mod Europunk yet, you should, it's pretty good even in its early stage, and finally makes it interesting to win the 1EW as the EU.
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>>2338326
I swear to god tfr has worse fanboys than TNO. You are insufferable faggot and you should go kill yourself if you seriously defend a buggy nothingburger that was the last update
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>>2338389
Ok Nicola.
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bros.. last year, Brandon Russell was sentenced to the maximum period of incarceration of 20 years for the single charge of conspiracy to damage an energy facility.. he's 30 right now, so he'll get out when he's 50 unless he's paroled (they won't let him get paroled). what do we do now that our based TFR leader has been imprisoned for much of his adult life? anyone thought to write him a letter about how much good he brought to the TFR movement? MSS fears us.. FSB won't even touch us..
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KR sucks off the KMT so much you almost forget how incompetent they were IRL.
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>having a focus tree that looks like THIS in 2026
I'm still standing by my statement that EAW is shit and only seems good because when you imagine "pony mod" you imagine something abysmal.
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>>2338499
EAW suffers from OWB in that most of its content is shallow as fuck. It has a few long routes, but unfortunately half(?) of those are communist routes.
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>>2338270
>Dramafag
My favorite part was when they discovered that his real account was talking to and praising his Error Log alt.

>>2338467
Can't tell if this is bait or genuine retardation.
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>tfr 1.1 comes out
>"BTW if you want to enjoy all of the content in 1.1, which includes approximately 50% of the content for each of the factions, you CANNOT touch the console button- cheater."
>"also you can't reload your save. ironman only."
get ready for serious gayness
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>>2338577
nobody said this, you are making arguments that never existed
>BUT MUH COGNOSCENTI GIMMICK
that wasn't the argument for that either, modded hoi4 achievements are arbitrary if you qualify or not
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>>2338577
That's not even how ironman of achievements works you baiting retard.
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>>2338605
>>2338607
i'm saying that tfr devs are going to require your games to be ironman "just because," like they did with cognoscenti.
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>>2338628
Oh my god you're so stupid. You don't know anything about this. That's not what they did. You can unlock a secret ending if you earned the achievement for winning the campaign. That's it. You can still do the normal full world conquest campaign and cheat as much as you want without it being restricted. They just said that to discourage you from locking yourself out of the secret ending. And again this isn't even how ironman or achievements work.
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>>2338633
they literally decided to FUCK people out of content just because those people like to use console. and the fanbase lapped it up. because the devs weren't stopped, next time they'll lock content behind forced ironman mode.
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>>2338638
Bruh it's a meme ending for your second campaign using magic and beating the campaign as the most powerful tag in the mod isn't even hard, stop seething because you can't win without using delall on Trump.
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>>2338661
it's actually pp 2000 for unlimited political points, because the political point system is stupid.
>meme ending
it's still content that they could have included without preventing people from using the console; instead, they PROHIBITED it, and next time they'll force everyone to use ironman.
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>>2338670
Skill issue.
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>>2338499
Actual horsefuckers have been saying this for ages.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1r0laoc/comment/o4jznnw/?context=3
More shitflinging about the TFR OST, and Deadrin responding to it.
>>2338526
>bait or genuine retardation.
The latter, though the idea of writing a letter to Brandon from the TFR dev team would be quite gemmy.
>>2338648
Gimme the catbox, I can't see jack.
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>>2338691
That's just because they're seething over Griffonia's existence, and Equestria not being so comically overpowered there's no point to playing it except for the power fantasy.
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>>2338694
>Equestria not being so comically overpowered there's no point to playing it except for the power fantasy.
You misspelled "getting no updates since god knows when"
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>>2338700
>The mod that just updated get no updates
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>>2338694
Yeah, I want Equestria's regular gameplay to be world domination. And?
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>>2338705
No updates for Equestria the country.
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>>2338389
wdym buggy? everything in it works exactly as it should, it's not a lot of content but it makes Germany's early game more interesting
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>>2338712
Fair enough.

>>2338714
Nayrt but it was buggy on release. Might have been hotfixed though.
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>>2338648
>Politically Correct Censorship
They literally did this, by the way. They did indeed censor at least one Dragon Ball Super episode.

>the rest of the tree
Spookier than a million Draculas
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I hope Dark MAGA Trump has a mini-game around figuring out who is a MAGA loyalist and who needs to go on the purge list, should feel distinct from the Judas mini-game though.
https://youtu.be/zd-X3m3fcX0?si=mE2PSfl13jLZrzPD
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>>2338648
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>>2338761
>Syndie mafia
Stability debuffs should only apply to non-PJ governments.
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>>2338648
>>2338761
Is this just a full-on TNOfication or will the South American countries be able to do anything meaningful?
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>>2338648
>>2338761
>Fernandez not only doesn't drop out of the ballots, he gets a second term
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>>2338700
That isn't what /mlp/ complains about doebeit.
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>>2338809
What are they saying? That nearly none of the toozed content (and there's a lot) made it into the update? That the Lan Kir tree, as bad as it is, apparently took years to develop?
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>>2338809
/mlp/ complains about that and fundamental problems.
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>>2338693
>muh plagiarism in muh hoi4 mod!
I'll be saving the current music list and will upload any songs they delete as a mod.
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>>2338855
Good and based.
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>>2338855
Patriot.
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>>2338859
>>2338874
btw if you want to just access the music yourself then it's just:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\394360\3350892196\music
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>>2338577
You forgot to attach the gigachad image
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>>2338855
>>>2338693
>>muh plagiarism in muh hoi4 mod!
>I'll be saving the current music list and will upload any songs they delete as a mod.
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Where you sitting?
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>>2338270
Any new TNO Yippie leaks get through the cracks yet?
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>>2339047
Eleven, I'll have no idea what they're saying. But it should be a fun time.
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>>2339047
Outside AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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>>2339047
I'll be skydiving without a parachute tyvm.

>>2339048
There's a few more leaked charts in the TNO thread. It's not releasing in at least a year though no matter what they say.
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>>2339047
1
I spend the entire flight showing him my collection of pringles memes
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>>2339047
Who are the guys at 8 supposed to be? Also 7 since I assume that's Luka.
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>>2339072
I think that's the two post-Medvedev communists introduced in Kaliningrad Animal. The Chekist and Stalinist.
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>>2338855
The 'plagiarism' issue isn't that the music itself is in the game, no one is saying that. Music mods use fuckin' major label music. Like you said, it's just a HOI4 mod.
The issue comes about because Deadrin SPECIFICALLY CLAIMED that the music is his, remixed, produced and made by him. The TFR devs not only credited Deadrin but also uploaded the tracks as the 'official TFR soundtrack', assuming that they were made for the mod.

It just makes the dev team look like jackasses for claiming that music made by other people is actually theirs.
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>>2339047
Idea guy here. As much as I love staring out the window, I'm taking 6 so that Sutter won't stab me to death when I go to take a piss at 3 am and accidentally step on his foot.
>>2339076
That's Klim Zhukov (stalinist) and Dmitry Puchkov (chekist).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klim_Zhukov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Puchkov
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>>2339087
A bit harsh it's not like they meant to, they were scammed by the guy.
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>>2339052
They're playing rock paper scissors. Lafayette won.
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>>2339094
>they were scammed by the guy.
My point exactly. I'm not blaming the TFR dev team for this, and when I said that the situation made them look like jackasses it was because of Deadrin, not them.
I'm just explaining why the drama is going on, and that it's not because TFR uses other peoples' music in their mod.

Also I'm pretty sure Deadrin is a Rusmonkey so no fucking wonder he scammed them.
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how's the latest EaW watch? is the OP image indicative of its quality?
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>>2338648
>>2338761
What submod is this?

>>2339047
Who's sitting next to Nr. 2
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>>2339103
Haven't played it yet, but from what I've heard and seen, it varies by country. Some are fine, good even, others not so much. With Lan Kir specifically, opinions usually lean towards the latter, but it's a very conquest-focused nation and has a bunch of mechanics, so there may still be fun to be had. Zongo seems to be the most liked country of the patch.
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>>2339103
It seems like it has its highs and lows. That one just stood out because of how 2016 it looked. An anon in the last thread said it was good though despite being ass ugly since it's utilitarian and let's you do fun stuff so it might not be as awful as it looks even (I doubt it but I haven't played it).

>>2339109
Looks like The Fire Redux.
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>>2339103
EAW went to shit long time ago
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>>2339103
So far I've only played Lan Kir, it's been a pretty fun ride. I do get the complaints about the focus tree, it is pretty clunky
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>>2339109
The guy next to 2 is Navalny
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>>2338751
It’ll be a minigame to find out who’s leaking the Epstein files
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>>2339125
At least since Path of Fire, the Kiria update. Which incidentally is the last time Kiria got anything.
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>>2339103
Zango is good. Lan Kir is shit, Aztlan is literally Celestial Resistance but worse.
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I just wanna thank the TFR soundtrack for indirectly introducing me to nightcored Rasputin
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coming back to tfr is such a hassle because you have to dig up which templates to use
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>>2339607
He may have been a fraud but he did have good taste. I like Fractured Timeline and Crimewave.
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>>2339650
Those songs do encapsulate the aesthetic of the entire mod really well. Not to mention that the scripted war songs are kino.
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>>2339656
Yeah I hope they keep those and just credit the real artist.
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>>2339659
IIRC they already properly credit some of the songs such as Crimewave and Schwazenflame. I don't know why plebbit decided to bring up a situation that had already been addressed.
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>>2339661
Wait they already addressed it and gave proper credit? Then why the fuck are they seething? Took the L, admitted fault, did right by the real artists. Fucking Reddit man.
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>>2339663
You literally have one of the guys Deadrin stole from saying that the entire thing has been resolved in private in the comments of that post.
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>>2338693
>So you're the guy who got the 1000 dollars?

>It was closer to 1500 but yes, spent most of it on my college tuition
>I am not redditor enough to play moral high ground nor justify my actions
Based.
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>>2338693
>This was an experiment that dates back to 2021, when I first entered the team. The basic premise was a 2 parter where the objectives were to see if 1: I could generate income into a sort of pot and 2: initiate a scavenger hunt for people to find the borderline lost media with a central theme for the Mod as a middleman of these songs. The person to find out the truth would receive the option to put the pot in either the charity of his choice or pocket it directly.
>so, you stole songs from people?
>NO, I created a SOCIAL EXPERIMENT EATER EGG HUNT THAT WOULD REWARD THE FIRST PERSON WHO FIGURED OUT THAT I """"""""""STOLE""""""""""" (heh I never actually stole) THE SONGS
What the fuck? Does this dude think we're fucking retarded? He literally stole it and is coming up with bullshit on the backend to try to minimize his actions.
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>>2339661
>>2339663
>>2339666
stfu deadrin
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>>2339607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6iO69b-49M
the best track
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>>2339797
That's not Atomrkieg.
JOIN US
OR PERISH WITH THE REST
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>>2339787
>>2339792
>What the fuck? Does this dude think we're fucking retarded?
I think it's pretty obvious, considering you took the most obvious bait of sympathizing with a plebbitor.
>>2339797
The Time Is Now is lots better.
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>>2339800
krieg? that's german, right? for war? HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN' SAY IT, SAY IT, SAY IT, OOOOHHH GOOD GOD Y'ALL
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>>2339797
Oops, wrong link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAeQ4O8QDuY&list=PLMj4C9AjAn3vGflXEjGk-j6vpCo89X-JH&index=34
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>>2339792
>Calls Deadrin a retarded thief and the issue resolved by admitting he's retarded and a thief
>"Obviously Deadrin"
Dawg, they're shitting on Deadrin for being a thief. If you want to accuse them of shilling anyone, it'd be the main team for trying to exonerate them.
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>>2338467
Okay, if we wrote a letter to Brandon, what should it be like? What about this bros?
>Dear Brandon,
>It sucks that you got 20 years jail, I'm sorry, that was unfair given that you didn't do anything except talk about an idea with your gf.
>I'm writing because I got really into the mod for Hearts of Iron 4, The Fire Rises, that's set in 2020 and has a second american civil war happen with like 58 factions splitting off from the United States, including AtomWaffen Division. The mod is actually really serious, the intelligence agency in china prosecuted the lead china modder for developing content for the mod, it's crazy..
>To explain more, there are 6 playable countries, including the U.S., but the U.S. has 6 playable factions, including AtomWaffen. I've played AtomWaffen so many times you have no idea. It's really fun and the hardest and most challenging faction in the game. I like being a Satanist the most, but your ideology of Accelerationism is fun too.
>Anyway, I hope you have supporters in prison. I've heard neo-nazis are in prison, so hopefully you've got people to back you. You did a really cool thing creating a popular group when you were 18, it just sucks that it got condemned as a terrorist organization.
>I post on 4chan, which you might know, and we like to talk about The Fire Rises, and a lot of people respect you and your AtomWaffen Division friends. Just because the feds hate you doesn't mean everyone does. Maybe you could write a book about your experiences while in jail like Hitler and get even more popular?
>That said, I'm going to start up another game and play as you, which is surreal in a way since now I'm writing to you. I hope you respond back. Thank you for reading this bro. Stay strong.
Thoughts?
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>>2339858
>Thoughts
You should never post again.
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3620612939

ERX beta is out, go text it, Reformists got new content
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>>2339868
>reformists
>new content
What a fucking surprise. No thanks, Zach. Go fuck yourself for what you did the purists.
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>>2339868
Please don't advertise your mod here.
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>>2339868
STOP GOONING TO LEGION SISSY HYPNO
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>>2339881
No.
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>>2339858
"Dear Slim, I wrote you but you still ain't calling" type shit
Being serious though, write formally and do it like this:
>Dear Mr. Russell,
>(50 words max of introduction)
>(75 words about TFR lore in-game and IRL drama)
>(150 words of AWD in-game lore, talk about the paths, econ, military tree, post-war)
>(closing paragraph, ask him for his thoughts and to write back when he can)
>Sincerely, Idea Guy
You can use Grammarly to check for any errors, it's pretty good. Or just pull out your old English tomes and use them.
DO NOT USE YOUR ADDRESS OR REAL NAME, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
DO NOT PESTER HIM IF HE DOESN'T SEND BACK ANYTHING.
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>>2339858
>>2339887
>>2338467
can you just kill yourself?
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>>2339887
Well at least this isn't total cancer.

>>2339888
Sadly, he won't see reason and blow his fucking brain out.
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>>2339881
not gonna happen dude
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mod osts can be so good
hoi4 mods came a long way, 5-6 years ago you only had tno basically, everything else was super barebones
now tno is in shambles and it's ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9PJQPLejBo
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>>2339901
Collapsing world's ost is 80% pure kino and 20% the worst shit you have ever heard
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>>2339901
Disagree. Kaiserreich, KX and others gave us plenty of good stuff before TNO came. Sure, TNO pushed the envelope on its release, but after retards like Mango and Lamounier killed it and TFR picked up the torch it's all well in my book. Modding is constantly evolving but let's not forget the fact that TFR's ancestors walked so that it could run.
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Hey, TFR devs. When Barky route?
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>>2339881
QRD on the ERX dev gooning to sissy porn?
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>>2340017
Could be completely wrong but I heard that the dev was discussing the enclave using gender changing machines on legion soldiers because they were mysoginistic.
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>>2339968
But I want it NOW! :(
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>>2339607
>>2339650
>>2339797
>Crossing the Styx
>Insurrection
>Rememberance
>Isolation
and most of all
>Pulchritudo Europae
Absolute kino. Bar none. I hate that the songs were stolen but I hope the TFR devs don't remove them.
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>>2340017
Zach (the actual modder) made an event where a Centurion was forcibly trannied. I believe it was removed/cut though I'm sure a few freaks in their fagcord thought it was funny or a good idea to include it despite it just being something weird and degenerate.
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>>2340029
>>2340076
Considering the amount of strong independent wahmen leaders in OWB, a submodder adding his barely disguised fetish is nothing new.
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>>2340076
No one could've predicted this.
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So how's that letter going?
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>>2340157
If you retards are actually making a letter may as well do it right.
https://americanfuturist.net/p-o-w-support/
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>>2340168
Nigga what the fuck are you people doing
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>>2340157
>>2340168
see >>2339888
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I can't for the life of me do well as the Baggers
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>>2340178
Sending a letter to Brandon Russell.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1qxghvk/proposal_for_new_content_for_russia/
Damn, he might actually be cooking. Especially with that Anton Vaino guy mentioned in the comments.
>Design of time! Capitalisation of future! Omnipresent survelliance! "Smart dust" big data harversters! Colonization of the noosphere! Superelites, guiding masses according to the capitalization protocols!
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>>2340056
Also the entire Japanese list
https://youtu.be/_sOKkON_UnQ?si=ytGc3QVqCxj2YQR5
I wish Ayden would actually put up all his tracks. The Seattle theme is just so perfect but you can't listen to it outside the game itself.
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>TNO still refuses to update the mod to work with the new dlc
>It's been unplayable for months
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>>2340331
I think the worst part about this MAGA TFR chudism that's been on the rise in the last several years is how much lying goes on. They see their "god emperor" Trump lying left and right, and they think lying is just an acceptable form of daily conversation. TNO is updated, as you can see in pic related.
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>>2340348
>Look at the workshop
>Still haven't updated
Cool story.
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>>2340361
Why isn't there an icon then?
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Bruh, I mostly always lurk but have to comment because you tfr faggots are the absolute worst retards and most childish gamers in all of strategy games, you are the worst even among the hoi4 fandom.

You don't actually care about the game, you have no respect to war, history, politics, nothing. It is all memes to you, it is all e-celeb worship, you are all like stupid fangirls celebrating your gunther loser who draws balkanized maps and your brandon and your nick fuentes and whatever other e celebs with paths in tfr.

You are not fans of strategy games or even hoi4, you are fans of e celebs on twitter and youtube. You are the actual "weak men" you criticize redditors to be.
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>>2340368
Butthurt TNOtard is butthurt.
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>>2340348
>>2340367
I, too, can revert HoI4 to an older version. TNO nudevs aren't sending their best
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>>2340368
literally anyone playing hoi cares about history more than the nu-tno devs obsessed with 3rd world shitholes
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>>2340389
I didn't revert to an older version.
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>>2340392
Pic related. Are the "LEL TNO DEVS HAVEN'T UPDATED IN MONTHS" group just stupid? It's compatible with the current version of HOI4.
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Alex Jones should be an advisor for Dark MAGA Trump or at least be mentioned as one of his talking heads.
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>>2339872
>Go fuck yourself for what you did the purists.
Did he ever get around to adding new endings for them or do they still have the one bad ending where they turn into inbred cannibal retards trapped in vaults?
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>Chudclave eternally cucked for being big meanie heads
>Meanwhile RotpurgerGODS get to commit total ghoul death free of charge

Lovely
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>>2338467
we have to save our boy!
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arent you people ashamed that the pedophile order still is the number one hoi4 mod in the workshop? and that its only competition is a right-reddit closeted magatard, Z-tard mod made by ruzzians?
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>>2340444
> that its only competition is a right-reddit closeted magatard, Z-tard mod made by ruzzians?
TFR needs to be an even bigger Z mod, they need to release Nazbol Russia and Libertarian Russia ASAP.
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>>2340444
I have proudly never played TNO and always destroy Russia in TFR
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>>2340445
no, we need more brands of putinism
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>>2340451
>always destroy Russia in TFR
This mf didn't get the Z-pill, shove barbed wire up his ass.
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>>2340445
no thanks
tfr devs turning noname regime stooges into edgy rightwingers is tfr equivalent of tno devs blowing irrelevant shitholes out of proportion
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Thinking about doing another Russia playthrough? Is it fixed? I recall several months ago that there was a fucked up patch that went through and the dev team according to anons here in /vst/ had to completely remake the patch from scratch. Checking back in to see whether that patch was ever successfully remade. What's the best newer Russian faction to play as?
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>>2340368
>Nick Fuentes path
Never even launched the mod award.

>>2340367
>>2340392
>>2340395
Stop seething about the fact that your retarded friends haven't updated since November last year.
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>>2340508
Why do little chuddies lie? Can't help themselves? What is it about it? Get FUCKED.
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>>2340368
>you have no respect to war, history, politics, nothing
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my honest reaction
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>>2340509
>December 2025
The publicly viewable Steam Workshop page disagrees with you. Try harder next time you want to scam us, nudev.
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>>2340509
Opened the dev build out of habit award.
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>>2340368
I agree to an extent. The hype doesn't make sense considering how little content there is. I played it when it first came out in 2024 and liked it, but since there was nothing else to do with it I left and didn't think about it much. To think that people would still talk about it after 2 YEARS OF NO NEW NATIONS ADDED doesn't make sense to me. It makes me depressed since I put in the effort and get much less bang for my buck, speaking of buck there's retards unironically paying for this shit. The world has gone insane I'm telling you.
>You don't actually care about the game, you have no respect to war, history, politics, nothing
Not only I have no respect for those things but I actively hate everyone who tries to take those things seriously in the context of a hoi4 mod
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>>2340569
You still haven't posted your mod.
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>>2340569
a-actually it's a y-y-year with no new countries added, because it was released in late 2024, not early 2024 :(
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>>2340569
What about France?
>"Doesn't count."
What about all the new routes in America and Russia?
>"Doesn't count."
What about all the new EU content?
>"Doesn't count."
We've had this discussion before and it's all so tiresome.
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>>2340596
>What about all the new EU content?
Like the new patch which added.... Um I don't even fucking know what it added actually
>What about France and Russia
Bruh
>America
I guess cia biden was transformative enough to warrant a separate playthrough but that's about it
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>>2340602
>Pretends WEF never happened
>"YEAH SO WHAT IF THEY ADDED ANOTHER COUNTRY AND MORE ROUTES TO A MAJOR IT DOESN'T COUNT I REFUSE TO ELABORATE!!!!!"
>O-OK so they added ONE thing I can't pretend doesn't exist BUT THAT'S IT!
You're so fucking hopeless.
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>>2340573
Why would I? If I do I have to stop act retarded like you. While I'm anonymous I can rude and obnoxious like all tfr fans. There's a certain charm to that, like when you faggots had a meltdown once Novo agreed with my take on lafayette.
>>2340616
You're genuinely retarded, I'm speaking about brussels project. The wef was also a nothingburger that didn't warrant a separate playthrough since it wasn't transformative enough
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>>2340619
Everyone, the man who killed TFR General and cut the cancer/rot from HOI4 Modding. He speaks the truth. TFR hasn't done SHIT in over a year.
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>>2340619
You said that there was no new EU content.
I pointed out that they added the most substantial route in western Europe.
Nice attempt at a deflection though, cope + seethe + get back to working on your mod and stop being jelly. If you hate the mod that's fine just say it but it's fucking embarrassing that you have to make shit up about how nothing new's been added and then backpedal/evade whenever called out on such a blatant lie. If you criticized things that were actually bad about the mod like how many routes are lacking in player freedom (EU in particular comes to mind) or how a lot of events are still placeholders people would agree with you, no doubt. But since you're just a shit-stirring nigger you ain't doing any of that.
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>>2340623
>1000 years of sucking on king dick gave peasants nothing
>30 years of socialist mega agitation gave the western world the 8-hr workday
Don't be a king dick sucker, peasant. Be like chad sir dunks-a-lot and fuck up the TFR devs. It's the only way to light a fire under their asses.
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>>2340626
Since you aren't even reading my posts and ignored the part about me criticizing the mod for its actual shortcomings instead of making shit up like you did I'm just going to ignore your dumb ass. Cope + seethe + dial 8.
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>>2340623
Dude I just asked what has been added in the newest eu patch? I'm genuinely curious and would like to know. How I'm deflecting if I'm the one who asked a question in the first place?
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So is it not possible to play OWB will the full map now? I tried to load up after not playing for months and just CTD when loading the main menu.
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>>2340632
nvm found the fix
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>>2340619
>All hoi4 mods are shit and only my mod is good
>Doesn't post his mod because he is scared people will say mean things to him
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>>2340658
It's probably just Nicola or someone seething incoherently again. Just saying, getting shit wrong that you'd know if you made it to 2021 in the game reeks of someone that never played it and is just crying over screenshots he found on 4chan/Reddit.
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>>2340660
it was specifically these threads
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>>2340662
It was literally from the current thread at the time since the dumb Polenigger can't resist shitting on anything that isn't TNO-tier libwank (KX's 50 monbol paths are fine though).
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>>2340660
Maskfag is not Nicola. Maskfag also hates KX and all other mods and keeps whining about how his mod doesn't get any attention. He is also scared to post his mod.
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>>2340669
IDK these posts don't read like maskfag. He's way more autistic and actually has some basic understanding of his mod. Nicola also refuses to post his mod because he can't defend anything except TNO/KX but knows he'd be mocked for the prior and caught red handed for the latter.
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>>2340658
>>All hoi4 mods are shit and only my mod is good
This but unironically.
>>Doesn't post his mod because he is scared people will say mean things to him
I don't throw marbles at the pigs.
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>>2340696
We all know your mod doesn't even exist
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>>2340669
>how his mod doesn't get any attention
It's not about attention, I get plenty of attention. I just don't know how to meaningfully transform it into money and engagement so it could continue to live on without me
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>>2340722
My mod will be the pinnacle of alt-history cybersteampunk with an attention to detail second to none. That's the only hint you're getting.
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>>2340696
>>2340729
>I'm really popular just take it on face value
Fuck off you attention whoring retard.
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>>2340734
It'll never even hit the toozer stage you lying nigger.
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>>2340734
>we have pax brit at home
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>>2340616
I NEED Post-Catharsis content, I hope they release it in pieces instead of trying to release all at once in a mega update.
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>>2340837
Depends on how involved it is. If it's just a quick epilogue and some fighting like TNO's post-Tabby content it'd be fine. Guess it depends on their scope.
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>>2340397
Last time I heard they are the next update and it will be militarists, scientists and some other path. We'll have to wait and see if they write in a mutant bleaching event.
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>>2340845
Thank fuck, don't get me wrong I like the mod and the Reformer stuff. But sometimes a guy just wants to commit Total Mutant Death and not get moralfagged into a singular bad ending.
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>>2340848
The Reformer stuff is good but I restrict myself to either Republic wastelanders or Authoritarian segregation, everything else just feels too tumblr for my taste. I think Granite is a far better character with some of the wackier stuff toned down, the most wild wasteland I take him is the Diana stuff which I think would fit him even as a segregationist. With Purity it depends, I think the Enclave being incestuous is trad and based but they do still have the goal of actually retaking America so the whole bunker plan doesn't really fit. Also Anderson gets a bit schizo which is why I think the new paths are all coup required. The moralfagging would be much more endurable if it referred to wiping out wastelanders and mutants to drop a GECK on their land for actual humans to use and colonize.
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>>2340837
Is it me or did they change catharsis's description?
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>>2340860
I'm 90% sure they did, I remember it being different. Did they change it in the Brussels update?
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>>2340859
>The Reformer stuff is good but I restrict myself to either Republic wastelanders or Authoritarian segregation,
That's understandable, I like the full 100% reformer stuff but it is very wholesome chungus.
>the Diana stuff
How do you get Granite to fuck Diana? Last time I played as the Reformers I never got the option.
>the whole bunker plan doesn't really fit.
I don't mind the bunker plan bad ending existing, but it being the only outcome is what irks me.
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>West Coast Enclave
>witnesses functioning civilizations being born there. >Shady Sands went from a handful of mudhuts to a real city, to a state-spanning government with a serious military and economy
>East Coast Enclave
>witnesses retarded w*stelanders building cities around nukes, unable to figure out how to filter water or establish a government that covers more than a single town, and sometimes not even then (admittedly in the Commonwealth this is because of Institute glowie-tier shenanigans but still)
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>>2340845
Need Enclave wife.
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>hey guys, you should totally play [Insert TFR submod]
>oh interesting, is it completed?
>no but it has 2 years of content
every submod is like this. they never complete shit, yet people post teasers and rec it...
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>>2340883
I hope the Army of God submod gets finished even if I have no faith in the writing.
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>>2340869
I believe you have to go full reformer, have the charismatic trait and have the EPA advisor. Personally I think a marriage with her would fit every form of Granite seeming as she is not a mutant and you could wing her being the perfect example of human technology. I doubt the actual modder will change that fact though, she would be perfect for my rabidly anti-communist Granite securing total power for himself, he is a big environmentalist.
>>2340876
The East Coast are actually the West Coast survivors so that explains why they thought the Capital needed the FEV purge when compared to the actual cities of California.
>>2340878
It is your American duty to make sure she stays pregnant for the next ten to twenty years.
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>>2340885
We'll repopulate the the United States together...
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>>2340569
these niggas have to lie just to feel mad about something
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>>2340696
Ok Wandal Skeletor
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>>2340925
Who's that rando?
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>>2340860
>>2340863
Yeah they did

Here’s the old description
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>>2338263
Haven't played HOI4 for a while. How do I prevent Hungar and Romania going to war on historical with the new German focus tree? There's no second Vienna award so my game as Germany just got derailed by Romania joining the Allies.
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>>2340660
>ignores the fact that part of the Schwab path is inspired by a left-wing writer's works
I find it hilarious that leftists will support a hypercapitalistic regime that sees human beings as chattel to deracinate and treat as nothing more than numbers on excel spreadsheets just because Right Wingers also oppose it.
"Goycattle" has never been a term so apt for those clowns.
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>>2340953
Aren't there custom country paths for vanilla? If you're dead set on having it work out one particular way you might be able to set it up via those.

>>2340968
I'll never get that screenshot. Being anti-WEF and groups like them used to be a very standard take on the left and I'm sure it still is once you move away from left-centrism. Painting out the whole thing as a right-wing ploy just seems bizarre to me. Total social media brain rot.
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>>2340968
>leftists will support a hypercapitalistic regime that sees human beings as chattel to deracinate
Bolsheviks were enthusiastically bankrolled by the literal Rothschilds. I wonder why?
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>>2340628
>dial 8
Nigger it's dilate.
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>>2341003
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>>2340860
>>2340947
Old version is much better, especially the last bit.
>>2341001
Same with the nazis, himmler was even quite friendly with one of them.
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>>2340928
the infamous killpeopleism/mod couper/serbian chud
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>>2341052
I don't get it, elaborate.
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>>2340860
>>2340947
>old TFR- holy shit, a second american civil war? with THREE nazi factions? great asian war that actually happens? china invades taiwan? russia invades europe, twice?! civil wars EVERYWHERE.. ~and unlike the system they're fighting, the people are far from tired~ cool as fuck. the future of this mod is amazing
>nuTFR- nontent, nontent, nontent, find le judas, toozers, toozers, toozers, fifth russian route anyone? btw it doesn't actually change anything. china rework for the third time! lol no more china. YOU JUST REALLY WANT TO BREAK YOUR OWN NOSE.
how did they drop the ball so fucking hard bros?
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>>2341076
>Old was a few months ago
>New is also a few months ago
You really need to stop trying to push this TNOfication meme.
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>>2341076
t.nigger with brainworms infesting his head
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>>2341109
It's just obvious that the devs are fucking up. Then there was that whole shitstorm with the Russian nontent update breaking everything...
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>>2341109
Zoomies trying to convince me that skibidi toilet is high art and that 67 is post modernist garbage.
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Remember when everyone thought 1.1 would be released by last fall by the latest?
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>>2341116
>Some bugs that were fixed a week later in one release
>IT'S JOEVER JUST LIKE TNO
Reaching.
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Holy shit, did all the niggers come out of the woodworks to shit on TFR? All came and posted at similar times, and whats with trying to push this "nontent" stuff?
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>>2341132
Everyone place your bets, the ones responsible for today's round of failed shilling and thread raiding are:

-TNOfags or the devs themselves
-Nicola
-Maskfag and whatever circlejerkers he managed to convince to do this
-Idea tranny
-Former devs who are unhappy with TFR (maybe that privatehazard guy, since one of the posters here mentioned that he was a control freak who doesnt like where the mod is going)
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>>2341132
It's probably just Cobble or Nicola seething again. He's been doing it all day. Suspicious that we got a hardcore TNO shill too.
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>>2341140
>>2340509
>>2340519
>>2340526
>TNO devs
I mean he (or at least one of them) did post something that might be using a dev build of TNO while claiming that it totally works (just not in the Steam version).
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>>2341142
Fuck, forgot about Cobble, can't believe hes still going on after pretty much a year of being ousted from the mod. Better hope he gets deported by ICE or arrested for being a drug dealer or something.
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>>2341151
ICE shooting Cobble in the head for resisting arrest while high on bath salts would be the funniest shit.
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>>2341140
>Idea tranny
Ain't me, I'm playing openfront.io. My bet is on maskfag.
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>>2341185
Kill yourself. Cheers to everyone else.
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>>2341189
Except nu-Tranny NO devnigges. Kill all yourselves as well.
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What's the tea on HOI4 Modding turning on Ideaguy? I thought he was beloved here awhile back ago
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>>2341197
He was never liked just sorta tolerated because he's a harmless but annoying autist. People just got more vocal about it because you can only reverse-signaturefag for so long before people lose their patience.
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Idea gal here, I was getting my bussy blasted by a black man. None of those posts were mine!
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>>2341202
Damn.. didn't TFR steal some of his ideas though?
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>>2341209
OK Idea Guy, you can stop pretending that anyone's ever liked your ideas.
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>>2341209
…run that by me again?
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If you had to expand Medvedev's content, how would you do it? He is in a pretty good place right now but there is some room for post 1 EW victory expansion in my opinion. The idea of an Authoritarian Conservative Warsaw Pact vs Ultra Liberal NATO is very interesting to me, I know there is not really enough time to explore the mini cold war fully but it feels like there could be more to that set up then there currently is. Perhaps expand on Medvedev's consolidation of power and political evolution after this complete victory allows him to do whatever he wants and have how Russia interacts with their new satellites reflect that change. As it currently stands you basically get two focuses each for technocrat, nationalist and socialist Medvedev. With how many Russian leaders you can get, I would like to see some of that creativity mixed with the effort put into Biden and his glowies.
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>>2341242
new route based around someone no one has heard of and that doesn't alter the core rus gameplay one iota
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>>2341209
>TFR steal some of his ideas though?
Elaborate this fucking instant.
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>>2341242
Off the top of my head...
>The possibility of other foes than Europe and redefining CSTO accordingly.
>More BRICS and alliance building; it's all very barebones and it'd be nice if you could make your allies matter. Some tags barely even function because of their post-war debt. Just simple actions like debt relief and building up tags like Romania would be nice.
>Actually have meaningful interactions with American unifiers. A Medvedev-Trump soft alliance against the Eurocrats would work great especially with how much Trump fucking loathes those guys. He probably hates some of them more than Medvedev does. Right now? Content's borderline non-existent. Free real estate, devs!
>Give me my Natalia route that I've wanted since 2014
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>>2341253
Just something I heard.. a dev was calling him ideabrah.
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>>2341275
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>>2341275
Screenshot. NOW.
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>>2341242
See
>>2340252
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>>2341260
>The possibility of other foes than Europe and redefining CSTO accordingly.
Giving content for russian involvement in the Arab-Israeli war would be a good idea, maybe you would be able to get all of the levant into the csto if you help cap israel and do a decision to prevent israel doing the samson option.
>More BRICS and alliance building;
They could more focuses for building up your new "allies" vs looting them to directly aid russia in the post ew tree might work plus a few events for specifically how much you help/loot each country.
For BRICS you could have a post 2ew faction created between russia and china if you went down the pro brics tree and if china is under xi/reformists.
>Actually have meaningful interactions with American unifiers.
Even just adding a mutual national spirit for the side you supported winning would be neat.
>Give me my Natalia route that I've wanted since 2014
Empress Natalia will become the enlightened despot of Eurasia.
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>>2341286
Never post like that again you mongoloid troglodyte.
pic unrelated I just like it.
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Vanguard of The Wild toozer when? Easily one of the 1.1 paths I'm looking forward to the most.
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It's paid toozer time, fork'em over.
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>>2341291
Some spirits and events would be nice. President Trump making his first overseas trip to Moscow to thank Medvedev for all his support for America's people during the war would send shockwaves across Europe. Conversely, a Democrat W propping up the Euros before the war would be felt in Moscow too. Even if the effects aren't big at the end of the day it'd go a long way to make the world feel more connected when right now the three major areas of the world often just do their own thing.

Picrel needs to be a thing in her route btw.
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>>2341291
Poklonskaya has some wild shit in her bio so I doubt it will be anything less than ” Kurgynian or roids". I saw a post talking about her being an ultra-monarchist neopagan with a Romanov cult like Tabby's, or something like that.
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>>2341295
Mb. Here's the link, check out the comments too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1qxghvk/proposal_for_new_content_for_russia/
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>>2341304
I don't think it was that extreme but she did have a framed picture of Nicholas II in her office back in the day at least. I remember that.
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Does anyone know what this means?
Clicking on it just moves the map to New Vegas but doesn't bring up and menus or anything.
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>>2341313
If you don't get an answer here it's probably best to ask on the discord.
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>>2341313
click on province, trade node level should be somewhere in there
also you need like 25 mana to level it up
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>>2341291
This is all subject to change of course if new content is added for these tags but I really like the idea of TFR having events that go beyond political in their consequences that actually alter the world more then "those ten years were kinda crazy". Were I to have a canon timeline of it all it would include
>India and Pakistan nuking each other
>Israel enacting the Samson option after being overrun by a new Arab Spring
>Sub-Saharan African civilisation breaking down due to complete dry up of foreign aid, nuclear fallout blowing in with the weather, droughts and famines with endless brutal civil wars further inducing societal collapse
>South American environmental disasters form the rivers choking and the jungles burning due to mass inflows of refugees and their required house along with industry rising unsustainably to fill the world's never ceasing demand for weapons and common goods. All of this in the backdrop of rising political extremism mirroring that of the United States.
>pollution of the Asian seas due to sunk ships, missiles, drones, planes and leaked radioactive material from downed projects used by increasingly desperate states
>American society never truly recovers with a nationwide Northern Ireland scenario paralysing them, the Canadian and Mexican territories are a constant foreign war and occupation that is mirrored domestically in the States themselves
>Europe in a never ending and constantly increasing cycle of violence from different parties rising and falling as resources end
Really create an end of the world feeling with the knowledge that it is all born from humanity's desire to destroy one another. This is not even accounting for future special projects, biological and the like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um-VF2Z5X3s
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>>2341316
Well jokes on me a little while later in-game a caps tutorial popped up. I just missed the button to expand the menu. PIC RELATED
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>>2341117
I don't even know what 67 means.
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>>2341317
As well as that because ww3 will happen in the mid 2030s they'll probably have some amount of space combat which could result in kessler syndrome.
https://files.catbox.moe/s4xk90.png
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>>2341323
it doesn't mean anything
like literally the joke is that it's just postmodernist nonsense
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>>2341329
I'll give that a read. Though I don't think it should automatically have to be awful, I really prefer TFR to just be completely depressing. Having every scientific and human achievement be corrupted for war really just puts the nail in the coffin for the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy0ALZfLcTI&list=PLlEW3b9xrbEnRWFiXnYXD3sEM7Qv4Y11R&index=5
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>>2341329
>because ww3 will happen in the mid 2030s they'll probably have some amount of space combat
I doubt it. Them 6th gen fighters started flying only very recently, and true space fighters are at least a generation beyond that, if not more.
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>>2340884
>even if I have no faith in the writing
QRD? What's wrong with the writing? Is it even out yet?
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>>2341329
Hey, I posted that here first.
>>2341317
Indian Summer: A Forever Winter Prologue
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>>2341323
>Doesn't get 67
NGMI
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Honestly considering that even reputable developers like Edmund McMillen are getting insane flak for including rather problematic people like Chris Chan or Ethan Klein in their game, kicking Otto out for wanting to do an interview with a neo nazi terrorist was a good call from the TFR team.
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>>2341359
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>>2341383
Hasan Piker interviewed Houthi terrorist and nothing happened. It's just incredibly pussy behavior on the tfr part
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>>2341378
I love these TFR AI pics. Post more.
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>>2341397
The fact that you're so dense that you think these are comparable really proves how retarded Otto is.
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how do the tfr guys and tfr submod guys make focus tree icons? i keep trying in microsoft copilot but this is the best i've been able to get, which isn't good enough.. i've got a really good idea for a submod but i'm starting from scratch on the programming and art side of it
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>>2341383
>ethan is considered problematic now
You get what you fucking deserve, jewboy
Also, do we think he'd flee to Israel in the TFR timeline? Could make for a funny event chain.
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>>2341559
there's a translated chinese guide on the discord in fan content guidelines
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>>2341593
It's 2021 and he's in California so APLA would still love jews. The event would be a goyim Jacobin that's completely servile protecting him towards LAX to allow him to escape while gunning down gangs. #NeverAgain
Atomwaffen HERO with a stinger shoots down his plane over the Everglades with a Stinger.

>>2341638
I don't have Doxcord please link.
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>>2341645
Wasn't he still seen as right wing back in 2021 who also owns a mansion in LA. Doubt the APLA would like him very much.
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>>2341646
He was always a libshit and if they owning mansions was an issue Hasan Piker wouldn't be their collective saint. He'd make it.
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>>2341645
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358345132814106756/1454277133147832330/TFR_Icon_Guide_CN_2.0_-_EN_TRANSLATION.pdf?ex=698fc89f&is=698e771f&hm=9be994b36dd9106874681b485da124924de4481b906ad12bf6d431c8e9846329&
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>>2341650
Discord doesn't let you hotlink dummy. Upload it to Catbox.
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>>2341655
https://files.catbox.moe/htmeub.pdf
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>>2341593
>flees to israel
>still gets vaporised when israel samsons itself to stop some inbred arabs (who still end up conquering the ruins anyways lmao)
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>>2341674
>Irradiated nuclear ruins of Is*ael
>Still a higher HDI than the countries Is*ael destroyed via proxy
Total Arab W all things considered.
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>>2341705
HDI is just a measurement of boomer lifespan tbqh
The longer boomer parasites live, the higher your HDI
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>>2341329
>freedom ship (haunted)
fucking kek
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test
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>>2341559
Your problem is using AI to take over making GFX fully.
You wont ever be able to reach the same level as any other mod.
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>Retards on the TFR discord voted for the devs to finish all of 1.1's post war content before releasing it instead of just adding post war content in later updates
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>>2341989
good, a responsible team releases an update with full playable content
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>>2341989
I'd rather not get blue balled at the end of a run.
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>>2341989
>liking "To Be Continued"
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>>2341989
I don't really care a ton since playing a normal Trump game right now is fun but there's nothing wrong about wanting the full experience right away.
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>>2341989
wish they'd at least release the special projects and SOF stuff
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>>2342025
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>>2341989
You realize this was an excuse for them to delay 1.1 even further, right? It's one of those "fake" polls in which the devs know what everyone will pick, so they offer it up and people lap it up, and now they have voter buy-in for a delayed 1.1 release.
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>>2342299
Why did you put quotation marks around fake?
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>>2342312
Because he's the same retard that was coping and seething for hours yesterday.
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>>2342326
And the day before that, and the day before that and so on and so forth. And he'll do it tomorrow, and the day after that, and so on, until TNO updates
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>>2342312
For emphasis.
>>2342326
Is what I said not true? Why would you dangle content in front of an audience and say "this could be yours if you're okay with us delaying further"?
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>>2342352
>Why would you dangle content in front of an audience and say "this could be yours if you're okay with us delaying further"?
I hear they call it 'teasers', and it's a very common thing to do in the modding scene. It's not exclusive to HoI4
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>>2342354
That's not a teaser, though. They didn't tease anything. They just basically asked whether they could delay 1.1 even further in a way that they knew everyone would say "yes" to.
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>>2342347
>Until TNO updates
Goddamn it guess we're stuck with him for months.

>>2342352
I genuinely do not understand what the issue even is. They asked if people wanted things released quicker in multiple stages or if they wanted everything at once. Why is this bad? You said yourself that the players are fine with it so if they're just going about it in a way that the majority of the players want then what's even the issue? You don't even like the mod by your own admission so you're completely unaffected either way.
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>>2342361
>why is this bad?
It's scummy, and it's obvious they had an intended outcome in mind when they made the poll- they knew what people would vote for. Reminds me of a university course during which the professor forgot to tell anyone of an assignment, and then asked for it on the "due date." Half the class had found the assignment on the syllabus page you had to access online and completed it. The other half didn't. After objections were raised, the professor decided to put it to a vote: have the assignment not be worth anything? - he only allowed people who had completed the assignment to vote. This was a bullshit vote. He knew what people would vote for. He just either wanted to fuck with the half who hadn't completed the assignment even further, or he didn't want to be the one to make the decision and instead put the decision to fuck over half the class in the hands of the other half. Either way, it was a vote that had a pre-planned desired outcome and was put in such a way that person who set up the vote would get the outcome he wanted.
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>>2342367
This is the most tortured, forced and conspiratorial analogy I've ever read. Dude it's a dev asking the community what they'd prefer on Discord not some Machiavellian scheme.
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>>2342390
It's a scheme to delay 1.1 even further, because they know their asses aren't even close to being done.
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>>2342391
Why would they need to scheme to delay something when they could just do it and be fine according to the results of f the poll (that they knew in advance)?
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>>2342394
Because it would piss people off. People are already angry over how long it's taken. This scheme gives the devs at least another 6 months to fuck around with 1.1 without there being TNO-level drama/complaints.
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>>2342396
>People are already angry over how long it's taken
So angry they voted to wait instead of having it released sooner?
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>>2342397
Most of the discord people are just lapdogs who'll vote for whatever the devs push them toward.
>OH YEAH MORE TIME IS ALWAYS BEST
Any disgruntlement about the delays is met with "well, we had the community vote on it... they preferred to wait. Sorry, chud."
Get it?
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>>2342423
So you'd have them go against the wishes of their base and release content that amounts to a demo now instead of the full release later.
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>>2342433
It's not against wishes of their player playerbase. No one was protesting against the release of 1.1 and to delay it even further for post-war content. Just because people voted for that doesn't mean it was or is a wish of the playerbase. You're arguing that if the devs set up a vote that says "do you want $5, yes/no," and then when people said "yes" you argue if they didn't give everyone $5 it would be going against the playerbase.
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>>2342439
Furthermore, 1.1 was always going to be war content. It was never planned, until now, for post-war content. They've decided to add post-war content right now because they need to delay shit even longer and are nervous about announcing that, so they're delaying it through vague promises of post-war content (which can mean anything btw, and be as minor as the old "post-war" content for Biden/Trump of reconstruction).
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We really just need to region lock south asia.
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>TFR sets up polls just to get excuses to be evil for the sake of being evil by doing what the community told them to
>The community is all lapdogs but people are also boiling over with rage
>Despite their community being nothing but sycophants the devs are terrified of their mounting rage over a possible delay so they asked them what they'd prefer just to fuck with people by doing what they wanted
>All of this deciphered from one (1) dev posting an informal poll on Discord
>All of by these truths were obtained by a Nicola-tier hater of the mod that doesn't even want to play any of the content being discussed
TFR derangement syndrome is real.
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>>2342514
>TFR devs set up a poll without anyone asking for it to delay 1.1, because the devs know they need to delay 1.1 anyway because their shit isn't finished
>arrange it in a way that people agree to delay 1.1
>now it's being cast as the "community's decision" and that the devs didn't create the poll, the community told the devs to do it
lmao do you actually hear yourself? You're so obsessed with the devs that you can't see what they're doing. They were going to delay 1.1 either way. Now they can tell anyone who complains about the 2027 release date "oh.. there was a poll, should have voted against adding more content ig"
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Can someone explain the new spy system of La Resistance to me?
It just seems worse than the old diplomacy options.
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>>2342517
>Can you hear yourself
>You're obsessed with the devs
t. TDS guy that's been crafting elaborate theories for days over a screenshot of a Discord strawpoll while feverishly trying to psycho analyze the dev of a mod he doesn't play and community he isn't in.
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>>2342535
outside of MP, it's something you can ignore
the only good thing from it is colab government
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>>2342556
>The capital is down there
Something really fucked must've happened.
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>>2342539
I literally have already done the analysis and see the golden path and can pick out their little sad ploy, because I'm INTJ and 6'2. What are you? You're blinded by rabid fanboyism. At least I can be neutral about this and correctly analyze scenarios.
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>>2342583
Fuck off you attention whoring, pretentious retard.
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>>2342583
Nigga listen to yourself. You sound like a clown right now.
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Over/under on TFR derangement syndrome guy being the TNO dev that posted his dev build? >>2340509
Pretty sure it isn't Cobble since he doesn't talk about CP 24/7. It's either that TNO dev or Nicola.
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it's actually updated to the latest update, for some reason they just typed dec 6 when they updated for nov 20th
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>>2342598
Ok devnigger.
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>>2342585
How am I either attention whoring or pretentious?
>make a point about shitty conduct by the devs
>get told I'm deranged
>then told I'm pretentious
I don't want you to have to play 1.1 in 2027, but the devs clearly have fucked up whatever is going on behind the scenes enough that it's what's going to happen. Now, however, they can (and will) blame the 2027 release on the community's vote for extra content, rather than do the right thing.
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>>2342605
You're deranged because you're freaking out this hard and making up grand conspiracy theories over a screenshot of a Discord strawpoll for several days you raving lunatic.
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>>2342605
Why do you even care?
Like, genuinely? Get back to work on your mod (that will never come out lmao you're projecting) and prove that a good HoI4 mod can exist rather than bitching about the one mod that actually tries.
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>>2342609
There were very likely German officers who knew the British cracked enigma and could see it through analysis, but they weren't believed. Just because something is a theory doesn't make it untrue.
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>>2342605
>blame the 2027 release on the community's vote for extra content,
My brother in retard, the only thing they'll blame is themselves. Did you see them blame the community when 1.0.8 came out buggy as fuck? No, they apologized, fixed it, and are currently working on adding content that wasn't added in that update.
So pipe. The fuck. Down.
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What is the most kino main Russian route? Not necessarily the most developed, but the most satisfying/interesting with head-cannon?
>Medvedev
>LDPR
>Communists
>Navalny
>Priggy
>Alikhanov
I'm trying Alik right now, and it just seems bland? I just got him though so I haven't read the focuses or anything yet.
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>>2342617
Didn't they say "it was team Russia at fault, don't worry.. we won't let them fuck things up again"?
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>>2342613
>It's real in my head, damn it!
>Soon it'll be for you as well!
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Rather a delay than having something like this EaW update.
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>>2342711
its a good update
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>>2342625
The TFR Russia devs are part of the TFR team you fucking dipshit.
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>>2342711
? Regular updates approximately every three months that add genuinr content to two new nations? Not just "skeleton content"?
Imagine a world where TFR was developed by a team that could release updates every three months to new countries, even just one. We'd have..
>Taiwan
>Korea
>Iran
>UK
>Italy
Completed by now, at least. Probably more.
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>>2342715
They are a silent workhorse scapegoat.
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>>2342716
>Why aren't they making content for bit players instead of adding mega routes for majors like WEF and cognoscenti?
>We need Czar's Iran tree NOW!
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>>2342716
>add genuinr content
The teaser:
>major Crystal Empire rework
>major Equestria (and offshoots) rework
>major rework for several Zebrica nations, including minor ones

The content:
>added a new general to Bumfuckistan
>changed GFX to Fuckknowswhere
>changed portraits
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>>2342717
They're literally the people that worked on the update you whined about being buggy are you fucking high? How the fuck are they the scapegoats?
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>>2342721
Have you not been following EAW's development over the past several updates? Each update, which comes approximately every three months, adds two new focus trees.
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>>2342722
It's a team effort. Leadership, collectively, is responsible for a poorly released update. The Russian team might have stumbled with some aspects of the patch, but the whole leadership/TFR team was responsible for the disaster. They, however, elected to publicly embarrass the Russian team and use them as a scapegoat for a failure that should have never happened under competent leadership.
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Christ this thread has so many redditors falling for bait, I'm going to bed.
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>>2342730
>Muh scapegoats
>The overall lead apologized on behalf of the entire team, explained what went wrong, and the hotfixes resolved everything a few weeks later
>The following year, anon is still seething about it as if it was a grand conspiracy to wreck the Russia team while the rest of the world moved on after the hotfixes resolved everything
It's been how many days of you blatantly lying to stir shit now?
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>>2342741
>it was rushed [by russia]
>it was uncoordinated [by russia]
>we're decentralized! (don't blame *us*, blame russia)
>blind faith [in russia] can lead to dark places
>1.08 serves as a proper lesson in that regard [not to trust russia]
>on behalf of the entire team, I would like to apologize for [russia failing you]
This is what that "apology" actually meant. It shits all over team Russia and tries to minimize overall leadership's responsibility. A real leader takes blames himself, not a loyal, hardworking underling.
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>>2341917
Kek tell that to Russia team...
>...
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>>2342743
>Got caught in a lie
>Moves goal posts
>"Yeah so he didn't scapegoat them but he still did!"
>They dindu nuffin despite working on the update
You're completely fucking hopeless. It's especially ridiculous how you try to pretend to care about the Russia devs when you don't even play the mod to begin with but whenever you talk about it you call Russia garbage with copy-paste routes. Fuck off, retard.
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How would Serbia work in TFR? I tag switched and there already seems to be a skeleton for power balance between east and west. Question is, what would happen to you if your preferred side lost? If EU loses, you can still sort of get a land connection with them but if Russia loses you are basically fucked. One interesting idea I saw in a thread was for Balkans to be their own separate war before the winner gets to join the main war.
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>>2342716
If you knew anything about how mod development goes, full content (so, about 10 years of content which is the standard for modern mods) for "two nations every three months" is outright impossible, unless you are actively paying a dev team to work for that kind of result, which you most likely AREN'T because HOI4 modding is a hobby, not a fucking corporate project.
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>>2342755
That's the problem and why a lot of countries will just never receive a meaningful update. Unless a country is isolated in its own lake, things are too railroaded around the world with major countries that prevents much/any unique routes that deviate beyond the railroad. A middle eastern country could see an update someday, maybe, but it's more likely that TFR just disbands/falls apart eventually because after awhile they'll realize they've written themselves narratively into a corner and only have a few more avenues to expand into.
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>>2342746
The patriot front focus tree is 90% ai and it looks pretty good (outside of that one focus with a soldier statue that looks awful). The main problem with ai is just faces, outside of that the icons are too small to notice the ai fucking up the little details.
I'm not saying that you should just add in the first thing you generate but if the result is good enough like >>2341559 then I see no problem with it.
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>>2342755
Dynamic foreign policy for joining europe/russia depending on your and their ideology. (Conservative serbia would join democratic eu instead of a duginist russia for example). Along with that you could add a small foreign policy branch for making your own faction if neither russia or western europe can be aligned (communist yugoslavia would make its own faction in a europe with schwab vs fascist russia).
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>>2342740
It's either bait or mental retardation.
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>>2342760
(September 2023) Kiria ->
(October 2024) Celestial Resistance & Yakyakistan & Jaki-Clan ->
(April 2025) Abyssinia & Bronzehill ->
(February 2026) Lan Kir & Zongo
And this doesn't include other content added (similar to things like Klaus, etc.), just new countries. So maybe not two every three months, but it still vastly beats TFR's pace. We're going on nearly two years, and no new countries. Just a handful of routes for already-existing countries and some reworks.
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>>2342768
Meanwhile, some of the older countries in the mod are almost untouched since release. Playing Crystal Empire is like being in a time machine to the earliest days of HoI4 modding. Most of the fanbase would rather have reworks for those countries than new ones.

Also, EaW dev team is massive.
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>>2342768
If you think it's better to rush releases of new countries, just so you can get content like the level of pic related, be my guest. I'd rather wait for the content to not be rushed instead.
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>>2342772
I wish it was rushed. Lan Kir update has been toozed since at least last year
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>>2342772
There's no indication that's a problem of being rushed. It's actually an extensive/lengthy focus tree, it just looks outdated. That's a design problem, not a rush problem. Look, I know TFR is proclaimed as the holy grail of /vst/'s HOI4 Modding community, but the fact remains that there are serious problems with productivity, not to mention leadership issues.
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>>2342777
TFR obviously is more focused on dropping less content that's higher quality, than just spamming shit. If you think that spamming mediocre content just to get stuff out is a better design philosophy, then you have unmedicated brainworms, and you need to check that out.
Also, your posts sound like they're written by AI, so try and sound more human next time you make shit bait. Kill yourself.
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>>2342777
Release a mod before you start bitching about other people's leadership and productivity.
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>>2342778
I can assure you, my posts are not. I invite you to have my posts checked by AI to determine whether they are written by AI. As for higher quality vs spamming shit, I disagree. Much of the Russian content consists of "spamming shit." World Economic Forum, too. China rework as well. Cognoscenti was done well, so I'll give TFR that. But one well-done route in almost two years does not bode well for future prospects. Remember, fancy looking focus trees do not make content "high quality." TFR's updates (which, mind you, merely account for approximately 6 routes if you count WEF as two, Kaliningrad as two, China rework, and Cognoscenti) certainly are flashy, but only one has substance.
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wahhh tfr this tfr that while the tno public build does not work, they are removing an entire continent of content (and more if you count germany), basically reducing it to a normal cold war mod but with failbound nazis in germany. tfr is THRIVING with content and the community, does not pander to tankies and democrats, railroads the story better than tnshit ever could and is more realistic by all metrics
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>>2342784
Actually, the Nazis have plot armour. This is arguably worse.
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>>2342772
Lan Kir is definitely not rushed. Its issues are far more fundamental. It is really boring to play. I feel no real connection to the characters. The story is boring. It is just a dev going: "akschually modern chinese millitarism is le bad". When it could have done so much with it by basing it in the actual imperial concepts of banner system or the western protectorate.
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"And then they sent a young scout from the battlements, bloody and loud
With the words of farewell from a garrison valiant and proud
Grieve not, little darling, my dying, if Texas is sovereign and free
We'll never surrender and ever with liberty be"

TFR PRESENTS:

Introducing the new warlord setup for the Texan Theatre during the Second American Civil War! Coming in Update 1.1: The American Experiment
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The new Texas setup in 1.1

RIP ATF Texas
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>>2342772
This isn't rushed, it just has a very amateurish design and layout. It feels like someone that's newer to modding (or just haven't messed around enough with more well-designed ones to know better) trying to create a focus tree and coming up short.

>>2342784
Germany has complete plot armor and cannot lose for story reasons. It started with Kiev being nuked by Germany if the rebels won the war and the resistance in Britain having massive debuffs that made it impossible for them to win if they went up against Germany. Even if they win, they lose because the story requires that of them. Meanwhile a normal mod like Kaiserreich would just have Germany eat a debuff for a while or deal with another opponent in 2WK.

A lot of this is the product of the radlibs over in the realism clique that took over the mod. They removed all of the "wacky" content that made Germany this cartoonishly evil regime but in a world where they're just a country like any other they get plot armor because it's suddenly a functional state and Hitler is the great emancipator of the Slavs. No, they don't understand that they whitewash the NSDAP harder than actual /pol/tards do.
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>>2342793
Interesting. About the only thing I'll miss is the ATF giving the Democrats some representation. I think that if that actually worked Texas could be a tag that might join any faction in the CW later on instead of it just being Abbott doing a sweep every single time. Hopefully they'll at least fix that.
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>>2342795
Maoist Texas has fallen, billions must self criticise.
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>>2342807
TRG is still there and one of their spirits seems to have a Mao bust in it so I'd say they're still around.
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>>2342556
which mod is this from?
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>>2342821
Extremis Ultimis
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>>2342829
where is the dead counter
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>>2342795
What's the faction below the Nationalist movement?
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>>2342829
Any more?
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>>2342829
That all the toozers? Or are you hiding something again?
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>>2342793
>>2342795
I wonder if you'll interactions with them as the LOS
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>>2342884
Depends on who wins I guess. I can imagine the nationalists being friendly with them since both are separatists that can align with the NF. Not so much any other Texan unifiers or a Klan-led LoS since they're a national unifier instead of a separatist.
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here is the ww1 mod loredad shilled
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>>2342895
So they just ripped off one of the paths that TGWR removed.
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>>2342895
>All that drama over this shit
Just why?
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>>2342895
Sooooo, what was the fucking point of all the drama then?
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im too shit to play tfr
i hate when mods deviate from vanilla unit types
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>>2342903
CAW!
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I found a pretty good video on russian cosmism if any of you guys were interested in it.
https://youtu.be/DYdcX0iNnAE
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>>2342947
6 ifv + 2 spg with an engineer support company.
I've literally just as france with that and won the 2ew using a single battleplan.
Also just use naval bombers and max stealth spotting subs instead of an actual navy.
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>>2342947
60-75% mechanized, the rest should be SPGs. Optional tank slot too. That's a good all-rounder that can push. APCs are a cheaper, lighter alternative that are alright for less intense operations.

Things vary more in the ACW since those are more infantry reliant but just putting some artillery and AT support in an infantry division can help it hold ground at least.

CAS is king so bring some MANPADs at least.
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>>2342770
>Also, EaW dev team is massive.
And yet they have a single person working on Equestria.
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>>2343052
So?
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>>2342947
Don't worry about it. TFR is shockingly easy once you "get" it. Just build the same tired old templates and click the same buttons for every country, set the same laws and so forth, and soon you'll have a booming military and economy. It's as wide as a puddle. Unlike some other mods with vastly more complex economy systems, TFR isn't difficult to feel out, it just looks difficult initially.
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>>2343099
Nah it's just annoying to play because AI is set to be super aggressive (It's in define) and every division is really fast and you have really small provinces that you can't see so if you leave some tile unchecked it'll get immediately swarmed and you get encircled. Also ai literally cheats with 50% buffs and divisions appearing from thin air. Coupled with the fact that you need to learn new division meta to win I understand why people find it hard. I personally don't like this "fuck you" approach since I believe that everyone should be able to experience the game from start to finish on their first try.
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>>2342793
Are those new tags in the Rockies?
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>>2343107
It's odd. The devs care so much about the "narrative," yet they don't bother to incorporate a storymode. Is it malice? I can't quite figure out the devteam on this one.
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>>2343115
it has ponies though. It is a pony mod.
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>>2343115
>the pony mod should stop pretending to be a pony mod.
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>>2343132
Ponies aren't isolated to Equestria doe
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>>2343132
sounds fun
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>>2342966
>>2342977
what about the us?
even as biden you don't have the industry to produce that shit in enough quantity
do you just spam whatever infantry you get?
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>>2343156
Buy equipment. National guard template. Tank division template, etc.
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Is anyone else concerned by the fact that the TFR devs haven't seemed to care enough to port special projects into TFR? It has been nearly two years since the DLC that introduced special projects was released.
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>>2343173
No, I've always thought that the special projects system is dogshit. Like most, if not all things they've added in recent years, it's a needless complication that doesn't even remotely tap into its potential.
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>>2343173
its coming with 1.1
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>>2343314
Really? So, 1.1 is going to have special projects (brand new system), five new American factions + post-war content for them (when thus far all that's been teased/shown is approximately 6-9 in-game months of content)? What else have they promised? This is crazy. Thinking about it, TFR is like ASoIaF, and the nudevs are like GRRM. They tease/released previews of all that they've already completed. Given that they now need to complete 5+ years of content for each of the five factions, there is roughly 7-8 years of content left to complete for each. It's definitely not coming out in 2026. It's probably not releasing in 2027.
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>>2343320
Get back to work on your mod you faggot
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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>>2343229
New nuke special project + old nuking system is so kino.
Rest of it I don't really care about besides flame tanks, they're also kino.
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>>2343320
>ASoIaF
>GRRM
What is bro even talking about?
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>>2343413
He's a retarded faggot that doesn't even play the mod and just copes and seethes about it. Just ignore his dumb ass.
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>thinking special projects are hard to "code"
you have never ever made a mod before
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>>2343413
GRRM (nuTFR devs) released previews (toozers) of Winds of Winter (1.1), the latest upcoming book (mod update) since December 28, 2011 (March 23, 2025). There were six Winds of Winter previews, with the last one appearing in 2016. There have been about six 1.1 toozers, with the last one appearing on October 16, 2025. Accordingly, if we assume that Winds of Winter will be released sometime in the next few years, then we can estimate given the timeline that 1.1 will be released no earlier than 2028.
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>>2343425
>coming up with the research for the scientists and coming up with accurate graphics for all of the scientists isn't time-intensive work.
Recall that Kaiserreich spent months doing it for the 200+ scientists they released for their special projects.
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new mod just dropped
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3666006236
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>>2343429
200 scientists for how many countries?
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>>2343436
131 scientists and 100+ generic for 34 countries (assuming that the five Second American Civil War factions all fall under one "United States"). Still takes time.
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>>2343440
Was legit impressed with the KR devs effort for it when I looked through the game files. Unique things for numerous tags and named scientists for several majors and minors. They seriously did a better job than Paradox who just gave some scoentists and projects to the majors and called it a day.

All I'm saying is, if the TFR devs deliver on their toozers and make something half as elaborate as KR I'll be pretty happy.
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>>2343427
>comparing Game of Thrones to TFR
This is the most schizophrenic theory I have ever seen, and I'm a supporter of the hyperstition theory.
I tip my hat to you.
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>>2343427
So TFR will have a live action series with highly rated first part, a mediocre middle and a disastrous end?
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>>2343578
No, that's ridiculous. It's just a HOI4 mod. The point is to compare timelines of how long things take given the times the project began, the times of released teasers, and the time when the project ended. You can extrapolate information from these data sets and use that information to reliably estimate when 1.1 likely will be completed.
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>>2343590
>if apples take this long, oranges will take this long
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>>2343594
It is not apples to oranges, it is that both are fruit, both grow slow, and neither care about deadlines.
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>>2343578
External media for TFR would be kino I think. Originally I wished someone would pick up a project set in the TNO timeline for a shooter game or something like that but
>TNO
lol, lmao
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>>2343599
TNO's Germany rework has taken longer than it's taken for TFR to go from concept to release.
Call us when it takes three fucking years for TFR to release an update.
>WELL ACKSHUALLY THE UPDATES TFR DID DON'T COUNT BECAUSE BLAH BLAH
TNO's updates don't count because unironically the only update since Guangdong has been integrated submods and Hart (libwank that sets the tone for VOOT PIG with current year hot button liberal issues like walkable cities and heckin trains)
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millennium dawn assets and framework being used by every new mod is pretty funny
they crawled so the others could walk
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>>2342795
Quick rundown on the guys and factions.
>>2342807
How would a Maoist Texas even look like?
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tried again, this time thinks went a little bit better, but i still barely push, trump shits out way too much militia and also detroit nazis are going to dow me soon
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Does anyone know what impacts the former Soviet Republics accepting or refusing your demands? Does it matter if you are Soviet, United Russia or LDMP?
>>2341242
I thought some more about it, what if with the ONF you have to deal with your own rising radicalism in response to the EU going insane? Since you now have the Communists and Fascists in government you could have Russian society getting increasingly worried, provoked and radicalised by the Neo-Nato threat to the West. Have people flock to either a Communist or Fascist response to the new world order capitalism in Brussels with Medvedev either immersing himself in either, both or standing alone with his Conservatism. This is assuming no coup or something which just sounds like bad writing to me given his position as victor of the first war.
>>2342888
Still, wouldn't regular non-Klan Confederates consider Texas their clay?
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>>2343735
if they accept, you get their whole army
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>>2343730
NSM are really easy to knock out early. Just make a defensive line along a river to hold Blumpf and move your tank/APC divisions to secure Detroit and capitulate Burger Burt.
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>>2343746
will i get a warning about patriot front + nsm attacking?
they still haven't attacked
trump sort of started to collapse after i finally took some supply hubs
also china lost the taiwan war
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>>2343735
IIRC the Texas nationalists can join the National Alliance. If that happens, they'd be fellow separatists when the national conference rolls around. Otherwise yes, I suppose they'd gobble up Texas.
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>>2343757
iirc you don't get a warning. Patriot front is the actual threat as nsm will fold from even reserves, just make sure to put a division or two on the northern michigan border at the peninsula bit.
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>>2343757
nope, didn't get a warning
this is such utter dogshit
trump just stalled me for way too much, i couldn't push because he flooded everything with militia and there were huge stretches of land without supply which made pushing basically impossible
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>>2343780
>I got no warning
You get a warning if your decryption is good enough to know what focus they're taking. You didn't so the game never gave you a warning about their focus declaring war on you because you have no idea what they're doing because you told the CIA to jerk off. Skill issue.
>Militias beat my mechanized death stacks
Skill issue.
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>>2343801
>Starts a shilling campaign together with his buddy on an alt account, while also stirring up drama within HOI4 just for a mod that looks like it got stuck in 2017 era modding
What was the gameplan here?
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>>2343823
News from the TNO thread. Apparently they're crunching to remove more content and drop a few skeletons that have been in dev hell for years due to purges and reworks. Also the German rework will just be a demo initially with two years of content. This is so awful that it's hard to believe even nuTNO would be this terrible on purpose.

>>2343801
This just looks like old KR content.
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>>2343793
what deathstacks
starting mechanized infantry has dogshit stats
trump shits out militia in retarded numbers, it's literally impossible to push
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>>2343916
Nigga you have the biggest airforce in the game and the largest armored reserve in America how the fuck are you getting BTFO'd by a bunch of QTard militiamen?
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>>2343916
Looks like you are spreading out too much, you can have a few non-militia holding strategic points but you really should use your actual soldiers in a schwerpunkt. Try to get some minor encirclements, ideally of the ACG's good stuff. I have no idea why you are pushing along the entire line, this is not Flanders.
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>country blew up because i didn't click on rural insurgency fast enough
great
btw microprovince fetishists deserve to get raped
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>>2343954
uh oh, you didn't do that on purpose right?
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>>2343954
Congrats, you just unlocked the best UOA path.
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>>2343928
Trve Pqtriots hold the line no matter the cost.
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Critical Collapse Demo is out!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3666006236

It's another GFL mod, now a total conversion, it's from a few members of the TNO submod who jumped ship after being annoyed with TNO spaghetti code, go check it out!
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>mfw something always happens in the big '26
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1r410w7/chudjack_memes_if_they_existed_in_the_tfr_universe/
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>>2343958
no, i wanted to do wholesome 100 bernie run

>>2343959
glowmerica sounds cool, but i feel like it's a bit much for the first run
where does the ng cognoscenti end anyway? is blobbing ng+ content?
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>>2343988
>is blobbing ng+ content?
no, ng+ is just a weapon that you can use in future runs that's it
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>>2342620
Push back against the west as Medvedev on elite difficulty has a cool narrative and an achievement. TFR has unique difficulty modifiers that make the game actually challenging.
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>>2343854
Are you illiterate? Do you even bother to read what youre linking?
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>>2343854
>doubling down on boring OTL Africa
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The odd thing about TFR is seeing leaders in a modern day mod die.
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>>2343988
I'd say just reload a save and play a normal run.
Don't play the Cognoscenti as your first game.
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>supply hubs have range in provinces
>mod devs put supply hubs in the center of a city broken into microprovinces to hurr durr simulate urban combat
>rural areas around those supply hubs end up having crippling supply because nobody bothered to account for this
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>>2344022
Craziest thing for me was seeing MSS arrest General Zhang Youxia because they played TFR and got spooked.
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>>2344031
Just push and hold with no supply.
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>>2344031
Just build supply hubs.
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>>2344018
>Boring OTL Africa
>Boring OTL America
>Boring Germany demo with the GCW replaced by a minigame
>200 years of Antarctica
We made jokes about them that were less bleak than what the actual reality ended up being.
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>>2344114
You know, if you take away the civil wars, GAW, EW1-3, ACW2, you'd be left with... what? Two African wars and a boring Indo-Pakistani war? OTL, indeed...
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>>2344224
The analogy falls apart since TNO is also removing all real wars in Africa too. You're just going to have some pointless border skirmishes that you can only interact with through minigames.
>Axis victory
>World is far more stable and peaceful
What did they mean by this?
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>>2344224
>if you take away everything from tfr you're left with not tfr
Wow...
Powerful...
Almost like the point is TNO is removing everything that made TNO TNO.
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>>2344227
>Axis victory
>nothing changes
What indeed.
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>>2344244
I'll never understand why they did that. Do they just hate their own mod and fans or something?
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>>2344252
>Do they just hate their own mod and fans or something
Yes. This is the one thing the nudevs inherited from the Panzer era: contempt for their audience.
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>>2344257
At least Panzer actually gave them something instead of just taking shit away. Shit's literally so bad that they got /vst/ to wish for the troons to return to a modding project.
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>>2344252
Maybe they want a mod where you're immersed in the stories to the point where it literally feels like you're in the universe, a horror show if you're Germany, or protecting the world if you're America, and don't want a bunch of silly nonsense like ROBOT BIDEN ROFL to ruin the immersion?
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>>2344314
The most popular and famous route in TNO was Tabby which Caligula ripped off and no one ever cared about your 600 events deep chain about trans rights in Antarctica, devfag.
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>>2344314
Except TNO can't even figure out what kind of universe it wants to be.
Germanwank?
Americawank?
At least TFR is just whatevercountryyou'replayingwank.
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>>2344322
>Germanywank
Actually accidental. Shit like their plot armor and abolishing slavery is just tone deaf muh slavery muh epic story gone wrong and the leads being echo chambered.
>Americawank
More like radlibwank. America either does irl establishment centrism or gets depicted as comically evil.
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How do you use the oligarchs in a UR playthrough? Using gas as a weapon versus utilizing connections in the West for example, is that more or less just for roleplay? Likewise, nationalizing or not, I remember nationalizing and I got Capitalism as an economic system but you get Corporatism if you don't which seems a little backwards even if you could maybe reason it out as being in cahoots with them. Still, it feels weird to put the government boot on their necks and not get corporatism, I think leaving them alone should either leave you with oligarchy or give you actual capitalism.
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>>2344314
Hard to be 'immersed in the stories' when you take them all out.
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>>2344390
But anon, what about my hecking valid life as a lesbian Jewess in Brazil described in 5000 events?
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>>2344314
>AI Biden ruined muh immersion
You stupid fucking liar, the AI can't even go down that route if you set it up in game rules.
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>>2344314
>a horror show if you're Germany, or protecting the world if you're America
I have not even played TNO and I can tell this writing is the most pretentious nonsense out there.
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>>2344314
the lafayette and radelsfurer bullshit are far more immersion breaking than AI biden simply because they're devs OC's and one of them is a leader of germany every time they go fascist. The tfrtrannies can be butthurt all they went but it's just a fact
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>>2344573
>Maskfag crawled out from his gooncave to seethe again
Suffer.
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>>2344576
I wonder if his mod will ever release.
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>>2344576
To be fair, he is right about Rdelsfuhrer being leader every time Germs go fash. There should be alternative leaders for fascist Germany. Because there are actual fascist that can fill in that role.
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>>2344580
There's plenty of other leaders for fascist Germany, no? It just requires Germany to purge extremist soldiers before the 1EW.
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>>2344580
Even if that was true this nigga has been shitting up threads with his constant seething for months now.
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>>2338263
What the things that your surprised that there's no mod of? I'll start start wars, star trek, Warhammer 40k, nor Ghost in the shell.
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>>2344604
There is a Star Wars one. I'd fucking kill for a OWB-tier 40K mod.
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>>2344604
>>2344606 (me)
Also there is a 40k one but only on a technicality since it takes place when the Emperor is uniting earth well before the stuff most people really care about happened.
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>>2344606
>OWB-tier 40K mod.
How would that even work?
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>>2344622
If I knew, I'd make one. I don't. But I think something like owb or eaw to track races and having a planetary campaign like the Dawn of War ones would perhaps be s good starting point. You could center it around Chaos, orkz and whatnot landing on a planet and have the overstretched Imperium be forced to hold as much ground as possible and eventually push them back.
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>>2344608
It is called 30k, Normalfag-kun-
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>>2344632
Yes and that's why I said it wasn't really 40k.
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>>2344580
He is the starting leader, unless you purge the extremists from the Army pre-First European War, and can be replaced by the guy larping as the Kaiser if you so choose
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>>2344573
>>2344580
In the defense of Radelsfuhrer, he is meant to be a representation of the KSK conspiracy to overthrow the German government that was a controversy like 10 years ago. The whole unit got disbanded for missing weapons and explosives before getting reinstated.
No one ever got found out or prosecuted for it though so we don't know who was organising it, hence TFR included Radelsfuhrer to stand in for whoever that was. The name translates to 'Ringleader'.

Lafayette is fully a donut steele though,
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>>2344657
They got disbanded for ALLOWING weapons and explosives to go missing*
It's very fucking obvious that they were stockpiling them.
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>>2344622
hoi4 mod needs a linear narrative
i think start post unification wars could work?
give terra/emperor a focus tree for collecting primarchs and founding legions, do some minor branching narrative, some fail states, heresy is the endgame
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>>2344682
Palpatine's Revenge tried to do HOI4 in space and it didn't do too well. Mostly because no one likes the navy mechanics.
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>>2344606
>OWB-tier 40K
I could see that working well if they keep things on a planetary scale
something set on a single planet à la Dark Crusade, guard/traitor guard operate like WW2 armies already with Space Marines being rare divisions which take up special forces cap
and the Communist/Fascist/Democracy ideology groups replaced with alignments similar to RT's alignments (Hereticus/Dogmatic/Iconoclast)

just make sure to throw naval gameplay out the window and not to bloat it with clunky attempts at shoving space combat into the WW2 game about frontlines of expendable soldiers
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>>2344657
The TFR devs have stated that Lafayette will be rewritten to start as a real life person, who then adopts the identity of Lafayette in his rise to power.
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>>2344692
I'd have space combat be represented with planes and orbital strikes. Only way to do it without angering everyone.

>>2344702
I hope we get a mask off moment with him once he's in power. I really am curious who they pick. Some anon a thread ago had some good guesses.
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in tfr when usa blows up, does every splinter get the same army doctrine as the us had?
i went with asymmetric warfare thinking to boost my militia, but that might have been a mistake
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>>2344314
Caligula Biden is kino.
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>>2344702
I'm really mixed on that, I know Lafayette has his detractors but personally I love him. I really hope they don't ruin him in the rework and keep the Frankish larp. Also hope they give him a 3EW victory super event preferably with this playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTevH2D8LQ
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didn't i tell you? didn't i warn you? that kaliningrad animal was the last content TFR actually had and that everything afterwards was going to be small sprinklings of teasers and maybe, if you're really lucky, a single focus tree for a single nation every couple of months. didn't i tell you? there was never any 1.1 and there'll never be a 1.1
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>>2344580
Frank Franz, Klaus Armstroff, and Heinrich XIII are other possible leaders for far-right Germany. However far-right Germany could use more leaders/paths.
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What's the chances that tfr devolvement team implodes?
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>>2344762
No doomposting, 1.1 is real and it will be kino, Post-Catharsis Europe is real and it will be kino, Lolbert and Nazbol Russia are real and they will be kino.
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>>2344769
Already happened once (sorta) and I doubt it'll happen again.
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>>2344772
What happened with tno?
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>>2344776
Nothing lately I don't think, if you mean in reference to that meme it's just a joke about Czar being a TNO sleeper agent embedded in the TFR team and was activated to kill the mod when it became a threat.
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>>2344769
Devs seem more united in what they want to do with the mod and as a previous anon said it already imploded.
For better or worse we will only know in the future but the entire czar drama def changed the mod's course permamently
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>>2342793
Why the change?
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>>2344791
Whole civil war is just getting a makeover/overhaul. You can see the Rockies area also got tweaked.
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>>2344769
i could see it, but not from the drama
basically what china did to the china team, but for the russian devs, doesn't really matter if actual arrests are done or just a complete internet blackout
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>>2344794
I doubt the FSB would come after TFR, but even if it did and the RUS team got wiped out the ENG team would still be around. Obviously this would be a disaster and slow down development of the mod a shit ton and indefinitely delay any future Russia content. But the mod wouldn't die.
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>Assorted posts from the TFR investor channel - circa today:
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>>2344794
Have China said why they did it?
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>>2344799
>That art of people being lynched
Yeah, I'm smelling kino.
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>>2344799
>Unconfirmed, but people are assuming the icon is in relation to the BLA NoI faction due to color-coding.
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>>2344806
>BLA
I really hope they get a Black Hebrew Israelite path in the future.
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>>2344799
>focus icon
Is this what I think it is?
MOLOCH DARK MAGA MOLOCH DARK MAGA
>>2344806
GIZA AUTISM ARRAY!?
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>>2344815
Only two that haven't been posted, the rest have been shown.
>It takes 4 days to get from St. Petersburg to Archangelsk via the canal (ingame that is)
And:
>Before/After
>The 2ACW should be more immersive, so we've been doing some writing touchups as well.
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>>2344821
So the new version of the 2ACW is where the american people WANT the civil war to happen
Thats a bit different from the first version definitely i wonder how its gonna pan out
>>2344799
Judging by this they do really want the player to be immersed more in the setting instead of just memes which i appreciate
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>>2344799
>everything is getting reworked
>nudevs are shitting on old devs
>deleting old content
TNOFAGS OH NONONONO
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>>2344799
That privatehazard comment alongside him posting on the hansen videos alongside the alleged former dev statement on the thread leads me to believe he got booted for a good reason
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>>2344761
Lowkey same. The larp was definitely real with that one and I understand why people don't like Coldsteel the Frenchman but I enjoyed the devs going all in on it. I think that if they made the other French Nationalist paths not underwhelming compared to him it would balance it out well.

I guess as a defence, Lafayette is meant to be young, like maybe in his mid-20s by the time you get him into power. Picking a real life person would be kinda meh considering they're gonna be a zoomer and extrapolating some French kid to be Bonaparte Reborn is arguably more of a LARP than just having a tacticool guy.
He's supposed to simply be a representation of a Far-Right, radicalised French Youth, not an actual person.
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>>2344863
Now dont act like APLA content is all that good
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>>2344776
>Devs are removing the African Reichskommisariats and the South African war
>They are replacing it with a bunch of OTL anti-colonialist leaders

>Devs are removing current German content, including all 4 paths and the GCW
>They are replacing it with a GUI minigame and a 3 year Bormann and Speer teaser

>Devs are removing the NPP in America as well as reworking all R-D presidents content
>They are replacing it with OTL cold war history which focuses on the civil rights movement and the dangers of Republican fascism

>Devs are removing Burgundy
>They are replacing it with... fucking nothing.

From the whispers of the TNO trannycord lurkers and dev insiders the next update is gonna be the Iberia rework, which will have a focus on teaching lessons about colonialism and the fall of Francoist fascism.
It was meant to release in September last year though so take that as you will.
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>>2344795
>delay any future Russia content
Oh no, we're not gonna get 20 years of content for President Dimitri Yolgobirishevsky, the governor for the Pissnoyarsk oblast (population: 3000)
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>>2344874
wild
i was just thinking that it's a miracle franco's wholesum democracy route survived to this day
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>>2344870
APLA content is just sinfully unfinished.
>Chinese influence mechanic that doesn't mean anything.
>Revolution Progress mechanic that doesn't do anything.
>Reactionary Resistance that barely causes a problem.
>Winning is a cakewalk because you secure the entirety of the West Coast, Rockies and Southwest before fighting any major faction
>Coring is trivial because PP is shat out like it's on a factory line
The whole concept of the APLA is good. The faction is meant to be a representation of the broad strokes of the modern American Left-Wing and catches the tone of it well.
The APLA update should focus on just how much infighting there is between the various left wing factions. I mean, if even anarchists bicker among themselves why do you think that they'd accept fighting alongside Tankies and CCP shills?

The way I would do it is that the APLA is only a united front for the time you are securing California. Once that is finished you will spend time dealing with factionalism until you either manage to wrangle and hamstring them enough to be unable to contest your position or you achieve a united vision by ridding the APLA of your ideological enemies.

AN INTERNAL APLA 'CIVIL WAR' SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE.
Not a failstate or a collapse, or a punishment of failing a decision tab minigame, just part of the playthrough for certain factions. It shouldn't necessarily be devastating to your campaign. It's simply something interesting for the player's APLA run and also a way for them to not be OP when coming to face the rest of the ACW factions.

Then when you move to secure Cascadia it should also play up the 'guerilla war' aspect of it, considering half the factions in the region are all about that. It shouldn't necessarily be a slog, mind you, considering that the coastal areas would likely be very willing to fight on the side of the APLA already.
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>>2344863
Dystopia and Cognoscenti proves that it isn't the case. They're if anything going wilder than before. They seem to be more about doing things right than just removing them outright. Also bruh they're not deleting the ACW they're making it into an even worse hellscape.
>But Caligula
Making him an opt in game rule isn't the same as deleting it. It's basically just we have Tabby at home anyway with most events being blank. If anything I hope they decide to give it a proper do-over like they are to NSM and other unfinished content that barely works.
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So the game seems to arbitrarily decide to kill my game (doesn't matter how far back I go in a save) by making the game lag/stutter every in-game hour/tick.
Online it says it's from the end-game having to many units but 2 years into a game isn't really end-game is it?
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>>2344806
NG+ content where the BLA revives Yakub.
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>>2344875
>we're not gonna get 20 years of content for President Dimitri Yolgobirishevsky, the governor for the Pissnoyarsk oblast (population: 3000)
We need it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2abmHwslk
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>>2344900
Okay fair enough, Russia does need the Nazbols and Svetov. Having to see Dugin and Navalny every time does get a bit boring
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>>2344799
Interesting, may you show us some more concerning events and future reworks?
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What exactly is the endgame of Anarcho-Nihilists, just endless chaos?
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>Space and HoI4
What if they did like Empire Earth did, and had space be just black water that required space ships to cross?
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>>2344799
>on pre-CW America
Damn, that's spooky. I like it. The CW needs to make you feel the moral decay and how there really, absolutely, was no other choice. It's nobody's fault, and it's everyone's fault, but both sides see the other as monsters that need to die.
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>>2344943
True 'do what you want' Anarchy.
Even the Anarcho-Communists of the APLA and GMAC have theoretical structures they are based upon, Anarchist thinkers, theorists and historical figures like Nestor Makhno.

The Nihilists have no such thing. It's a society without structure, but rabidly militarised against any nascent authority like white blood cells swarming a bacteria.
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Is there a mod where Hitler is the leader of Austria?
>>2344799
How would this even work?
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>>2344874
The devs aren’t removing all Germany content. It’s just a rework of the first 2 years.
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Speaking of OWB does anyone here play it, I woke up to continue a Enclave game today after not playing yesterday and half my focus tree is gone, apparently there was some faggot drama with the RBR devs and the part of the tree dealing with the Chicago Enclave got removed as "punishment", thing is 2/3 of the other trees depend on it so now my run is dead, I fucking hate troon modders.
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>not only does Loji get a pile of inherent stat buffs but its focus tree gives you 4 national spirits that are even more fucking cracked than its initial buffs
I would say the devs are just simping weebs but the anime avatar was a fan addition so I guess they really are just AI worshippers.
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>>2345001
Loji's an AI God that the AI can't go down naturally, no shit the path is gonna be OP as hell.
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>>2345000
>RBR finally updated
No shit? Took those fags long enough. Also is it RBR or ERX in general that deleted that content? Because I just loaded up my ERB Purist playthrough and that focus tree is still there.
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>>2344983
>Is there a mod where Hitler is the leader of Austria?
red flood
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>>2345003
No idea, I'm using this collection https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3474702961 and just swapped Map Filler for RBR, was working fine two days ago.
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>>2345005
There's a very specific order you have to load the mods in. RBR should be the 4th mod
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>>2345001
Fleshies are weak, cyberchads are stronk
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>TNO: warns about the dangers of authoritarianism and how extreme centralized power can corrupt and break societies.
>Red Flood: warns about the dangers of chaos and instability that can arise when the world doesn’t find a stable post-war peace.
>Pax Britannica warns about the dangers of imperial stagnation, technological hubris, and a world order frozen in time.
>Equestria at War warns about the dangers of the corruption of ideology and moral relativism in crisis.
>Old World Blues warns about the dangers of technology without wisdom and the cycle of the old world, history repeating itself.
>The Fire Rises warns about... nothing? It's a chud-fantasy alt-right mod that carries no positive message other than "wouldn't it be cool if literal ass nazis took over?" and radicalization is seen as the end-all be-all.
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>>2345019
>The Fire Rises warns about... nothing?
It's warning about the coming years you dumb fuck
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>>2345020
Except that's wrong? Humanity ultimately is good-natured, and not about le a-acceleration, bros!!! China is not invading Taiwan. Russia was defeated by Ukraine alone before the rest of Europe got involved. America won't collapse into a civil war; in fact, all of Trump's dirty dealings will be undone by the next president, a Democrat. Etc. etc.
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>>2345019
>on TNO
That applies to the modding team. The mod itself warns about the dangers of forgetting to add a game to your radlib visual novel

>KR: warns about letting the Chinese do anything, where most updates are "added a scientist to [country], (four pages of China changes), moved Lo Wang's testicles to its proper place
>KX: warns about running the game on anything other than a quantum supercomputer

>TFR: warns about letting radicalism poison the soul of a nation and its inhabitants, and about ignoring every sign that the world is heading towards a cataclysm

>>2345021
Not good, yet not terrible bait. Someone will bite.
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>>2345023
>>2345019
I don't think TFR is about warning the player in any regard, I personally think that TFR is about overcoming the forces of the status quo (Three Pillars), but also about how relentless radicalization and fury in order to change the status quo can harm your soul. I think that's the angle that the devs are going for with each new update
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>>2345027
>Three Pillars
What are the pillars.
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So why exactly does the rabid anti-TNO hater get two threads to shit up every day?
>has an entire thread to himself in which he exclusively creates the thread and replies to himself, drove everyone off /vst/ and to discord if they want to actually talk about TNO
>spends the other half of his time posting in the HOI4 Modding thread shitting on TNO obsessively
>literally the hate for TNO was generated and spurred on by ONE person this entire time, a one-man-war against what many once considered the holy grail of hoi4 modding
>an architect of hate, he single handedly has infiltrated the TNO devcommunity and releases leaks that he knows are mostly bullshit
Maybe in a year or two he'll give up, but he's gone on this way for at least 1.5 years at this point... remember when we used to be able to discuss TNO without him jumping down our throats, samefagging left and right?
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>>2345041
>Purity
The globalization and homigenization of cultures across national borders, and their replacement with engineered corporate products
>Order
Modern surveillance states which act above and outside the bounds of elected government
>Capital
Financialization of every aspect of life and the dominance of transnational corporations

The mod is saying that these tendencies within the modern world are not only detrimental to it, but hollow it out enough that it causes instability. However, those who seek to replace it often come up with systems which could be even worse. Remember that TFR takes place in a world where covid is only slightly worse than it was here and kills a couple important people which then causes a domino effect. It's supposed to look like a fun house mirror of this one.
TLDR: The current world order can't last, but make sure the new world order isn't worse than the old one.
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>>2345050
>One autistic man single handedly destroyed TNO and bullied everyone out of liking Mexico, Chilean Antarctica and otl Africa
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>>2345001
>monthly population +150%
What did they mean by this?
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>>2345101
Sex with Loji.
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>>2344799
Holy pretentiousness.
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>>2345101
AI optimised dating
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>>2345124
IDK, hardly pretentious to point out the obvious that the world kinda sucks right now. It's not like it's flowery or anything, it's just short-form despair and misery. If anything you might call it leaning into misanthropy and edginess but then again that lines up well with how a lot of the CW factions operate.
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>>2345021
>Humanity ultimately is good-natured
this HAS to be bait
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>>2345132
Cain and Abel is fiction. We followed Socrates/Plato, not Thrasymachus. Ayn Rand is mocked, not praised.
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>>2345000
>the tree dealing with the Chicago Enclave got removed as "punishment", thing is 2/3 of the other trees depend on it so now my run is dead, I fucking hate troon modders.
Do you have screenshots from the discord?
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>>2345128
Okay novo
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>>2345124
Is that going to be the new buzzword ever since the hansen video dropped?
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>>2345143
>Novo would call himself an edgy misanthrope

>>2345156
I guess so. Funny, considering him being a TNO shill.
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>>2345136
are you trying to trick me or something? blow smoke in my head?
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There is no difference between TNO and TFR.
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>>2345162
>There is no difference between the libwank vn without gameplay and an actual wargame
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>>2345159
Considering how triggered you are it's safe to say that I hit a nerve.
>Novo would call himself an edgy misanthrope
Yes because it's a self-deprecating joke that doesn't address any serious flaws. It's easier to call yourself edgy than call yourself a pretentious snob who watched too much tronime and thinks he's much smarter than he really is. I may be too rude since I never met the guy but he sounds like the type of person I would hate since he got no chill
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can tnodevs do damage control somewhere else
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>everyone I don't like is a tnodev!!!!
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>>2345168
>One line disagreement without name calling
>"T-triggered!"
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>>2345189
This. Can we finally accept that there is a healthy and abundant community of TNOenjoyers who participate and post in the HOI4 Modding community? Can we acknowledge that TFR is overrated and not as amazing as some people here seem to think it is? If the Godfather Pt. II insists upon itself, TFR certainly does as well.
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>>2345195
Fuck off, janny.
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It's bait but if you care so much for TNO then go talk about it in the TNO thread.
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>>2345201
That's a hate thread. You cannot have a normal conversation about TNO there.
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>>2345203
Everything outside your highly curated devcord is a hatethread/channel. The mod's popularity has collapsed.
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>>2345205
Untrue. When you ask a random person who hasn't been indoctrinated by the TFR community or 4chan about TNO, you'll find that they remember it to be a good mod.
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test
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>>2345206
Yeah, in 2021 before you retards deleted everything that made it popular in the first place.
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how's this for a focus tree icon? i'm still working on trying to perfect it to make it good. moya doctrine is like gerasimov doctrine but for africa
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>>2345243
do not generate an icon wholesale, looks garbage, you only really need the people, the flag and icons can just be grabbed from google
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>>2345243
>literal AI shit
You should just kill yourself. Either make gfx yourself or perish.
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>>2344943
Probably the end of the world
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>>2345258
how do you put the icons together though?
>>2345260
no, i have a good idea for a mod but i just don't know coding or graphics stuff. i've heard ai can code nowadays, and it's okay at art
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>>2345265
Layers, retard. If you'd only watched Shrek you'd know the answer.
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>>2345268
layers? here's another focus icon. how does this one look, good?
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Red Dusk Teaser
>Happy Lunar New Year Everyone! Let's us take a look at 3 possible PRC path after the 16th National Congress.
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>>2345277
retard, focus icons are MAX in a 150 x 150 pixel box with most normal ones being within 100 x 100.
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>>2345265
>i just don't know coding or graphics stuff.
time to learn, paradox has a decent series;
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6EAZcF5cWbg57Srq6BTVvguMl6YfP9pG
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6EAZcF5cWbiwdGsdZs-C3o6-uwgD4RKs
chinese tfr devs have translated guide on icons see >>2341669
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>>2345280
i can shrink it down
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>>2345277
anon that's probably the easiest icon to make yourself, grab some stock images and slap them together in GIMP, it isn't that hard
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>>2345277
Wrong size, aspect ratio and look.
Anyway layers are a feature in most image editing software that let you add, well, layers. This let's you add things behind or in front of other objects. Example: you have a stock image of a tank in the foreground, and then a flag in the background to denote the nationality. A very simple but effective edit. That's how you put the elements of an icon together, whether it's something more vanilla/KR-coded with frames or in any other style.

GIMP and Paint.NET are good freeware/open source image software that let you use this feature. Get either if you don't already.
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>>2345282
You can't just scale it. I've roughly edited into an actual icon here and the colours just mix too much and don't stand out enough when it's small.
Again like the other anons are saying it would be much better to avoid using ai and do it yourself with tutorials and gimp
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>>2345311
Jesus Christ that's hideous.
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>>2345265
>i have a good idea for a mod but i just don't know coding or graphics stuff
Then learn, put some effort in, you retarded monkey
i've heard ai can code nowadays, and it's okay at art
AI is worthless, and only techbro and corposhills are trying to gaslight people into thinking it is usefull.
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>>2345331
AI is pretty good at performing rudimentary busywork and can streamline things like repeated functions, but that might only work for more "proper" coding languages because there's a larger bas for it to learn from. It's going to create heaps of errors if you make something from scratch, and I wouldn't trust it at all with HOI4 without also causing heaps of problems you'll have to manually resolve.

It's a tool that can be helpful but just like any other aid you're fool if you think it'll just magically fix all your problems.
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>>2345265
>graphics
its piss easy, you are designing hoi4 focuses not the new mona lisa
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>>2345336
You say that like some of this shit isn't high art.
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>>2345331
this one is ok but it needs more work with the kidnapper i think..
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>>2345344
>this one is ok
No, it isn't. It is not ok in any way.
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>>2344983
Red Flood, Age of Imperialism.
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>>2345344
Never cook again. You poisoned the entire thread with that shit.
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>>2345277
>>2345291
in fact I did just that, not that hard anon
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>TFR, China
>hundreds of divisions
I know I'm playing a major nation, but this feels excessive
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>>2345376
>play china
>get decision
>"build 100 dockyards"
wtf..
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>>2345376
>I'm playing a major nation, but this feels excessive
I don't know if you know this, but China's army is that huge.
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>>2345376
What the fuck did you expect from the country with the world's largest population and industrial base?
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>>2345381
But it shouldn't be in-game. You have no challenge. You can do the Taiwan war easily with this amount of dudes, and any war, really.

>>2345383
A choice on what to get and when, which you don't get when you already have everything from the start. It's like playing with cheats, there's no buildup.
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>>2345384
>war against a small island country and a country that has had it's military heavily restricted is unfair
hmmm
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>>2345101
Loji assigns you a state mandated wife if you are 20 and still single. Baby making sex is mandatory in the next three months or you go to a concentration camp.
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>>2345386
A war that's basically impossible to lose, and yet you have to lose to get content.
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>>2345393
You can just buff Taiwan and Japan in gamerules.
>you have to lose to get content
Why would you want to get rid of Xi?
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>>2345386
>untested military
>got fucking raped by Vietnam in its last war
China's dogshit, and the devs made it overpowered as shit. Glad they got arrested.
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>>2345395
For Loji
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>actual double digit iq thirdworlder obsessed with aislop
can we get tnodevs back?
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>>2345384
>Why is it easier to play as a tag that's ten times larger than its opponents and has the largest army in the world and outproduces America in terms of ships and has the largest industry in the world
Yeah, Japan's the underdog in the first war. No shit.
>But I want a challenge! :(
Increase the difficulty level? IDK what to tell you. If you want a fair fight in the Taiwan war as China you might as well ask for Poland to be Germany's equal in vanilla. But guess what? That makes winning as Japan all the more fun and satisfying, so it works both ways. Everything can't be perfectly balanced and that's fine.
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>>2345396
>China's army of today is the same as the shit under Mao
Room temp IQ take.

>>2345398
I want them both to fucking die.
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>>2345396
>Untested military reeling from the pacifist constitution America imposed on them
>got fucking nuked by America in its last war
This strawman cuts both ways.
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>>2345384
>I played a massive country that goes to war with their much smaller and weaker neighbor, why is this so easy :(
I hate you fags. Take your underdog fetishism elsewhere and let strong countries be strong. You've already fucked up enough mods, don't ruin TFR.
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Why is Poland so easy to invade as Germany in Vanilla.
Did the devs not think about how unbalanced it is?
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>>2345406
>Underdog fetishism
The retarded part is that if you want a fun underdog fight... Tags like Japan are already there.
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>Germany can easily defeat Poland
But even that is a buildup for other wars, like France, the Allies and the Soviets.
What is China building up for with Taiwan? A cataclysmic war against who?
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The point of the Taiwan War is that it's supposed to be a miracle for Taiwan to win.
The only reason Xi gets couped if he loses IS the fact that it shouldn't have been possible.
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Gentlemen, we present the Roadmap, in which we will show you a list of content for the release of Eastern Conflict Beta 0.1
Content planned for the first version:
>USSR
>Russian Federation
>Ukraine
>Georgia
>Republic of Iraq
>Israel
>Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
>Federal Republic of Germany
>French Republic (Coming in 0.2)
>People's Republic of China (Coming in 0.2)
>United States of America
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>>2345424
Reads like a meme
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>>2345424
>redacted
you are not that cool
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>>2345424
I thought we left this "redacted" shit back in 2021
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>>2345424
>11 nations for first release
It died before it could even be born
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>>2345413
How fucking dumb are you? The war with Taiwan is the prelude to a continent spanning mega war. Why is Germany's vanilla preludes to fighting the Allies and Soviets valid but not China building up for a total war with Japan and India? God you're hopeless.
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>>2345424
What is it about?
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>>2345424
What's this meant to be exactly?
Cold War Iron Curtain but not shit?
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>>2345563
1991 start date mod
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>>2345571
Ah, so the parts of CWIC I want to play but know I'll never get because it's the most overscoped thing ever? Alright, could be fun.
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>>2345528
>China building up for a total war with Japan and India
NTA, but this war happens regardless of the result of the Taiwan war, right? Win or lose, China still gets declared by Japan and India?
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>Rustbelt Rising updated
Did all the submods that depend on it update too? Monarchs & Margaritas, Fountain of Dreams, NER, Cuba, etc?
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>>2345592
Yes there's always a GAW but the fate of Taiwan determines what it'll look like, with the future Korean and Japanese content fleshing it out.
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>>2345590
I want to have hope, but then I just see shit like this on the server.
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>>2345610
>movie Harry Potter quote
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>>2345610
embarassing lol
what's the point of 1991 millennium dawn anyway
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>>2345610
They support Ukraine? Well no biggie, there are sane people that do th-
>Full-on NAFO
>Harry Potter quotes
No fucking way he's literally a living caricature of Reddit. Hard pass, ain't no fucking way they'll make something that isn't TNO-levels of political sperging.
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>>2345564
Listanon, update that list. BTW, I have an idea on how to make it look cooler:
1. Take a toozer (I'm using the AOTF as an example)
2. Take the picture from the descriptions of the factions for every faction (if there are none, use the picture in the political ideology or grab one from the internet if that one doesn't fit)
3. Same thing for the tags, except use the pictures that appear when you pick the country on the starting screen (picrel is SOL's)
4. Darken them so that the text is visible and put them as background for each faction, use blur with neon frames to smoothly blend them with each other, repeat until all factions are done
5. Put scaled-down portraits of leaders and their ideology symbols next to each faction
And you're done.
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>>2345655
AOTF toozer:
https://static.wikitide.net/thefireriseswikiwiki/a/a9/BIG_AOF_TOOSER.png
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>>2345624
Plenty. 2000 was always kind of a bad start date for a game anyway since the powder kegs are all either complete fiction or America trying to dunk on countries 50000 miles away and it not working out like it should because of distances. Now 1991 on the other hand, now that's a proper fucking powderkeg full of possibilities to change things around all over the place so it lends itself much better to HOI4 gameplay. With all of the former USSR in flux there's no end to the possibilities there alone.

Anyway nevermind the devs are terminally online politards so it'll never be good either way. Sure hope I'm wrong or that it changes because the starting date has a lot of potential.
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>>2345655 (me)
>>2345669 (me)
Put this image somewhere too.
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>>2345685
>Kekistani flag
Brb vomiting from cringe.
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>>2345610
>that signoff
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>>2345687
You had to be there, zoomie
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>>2345278
I like Red Dusk but I've posted in this general before how I wish they took a few more divergences with history. I think it would interesting if they leaned a little into the wargame red dragon style scenarios with the set up a bit, with those mini alt hist campaigns. Something like the UK retaining Hong Kong at start date and with that being a possible conflict, anything to add some uniqueness to the setting compared to OTL. I'm just not completely sure what exactly you will be able to do as China with this update that makes them as interesting as the Soviets (or the US if they ever get actual content.)
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>>2345627
>TNO-levels of political sperging.
its unfortunate, because a 1991 is a really good idea
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>>2345685
It's a little offtopic, but what do some of the abbreviations stand for?
I can pick out
>Kekistani
>Anti Communist Action
>?
>?
>?
>Southern Nationalists(?)
>National Socialists
>Alt Right
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>>2345707
>Shadilay mein bruder amirite xDDD
I was there and I was even there for Chanology and all the other retarded shit everyone else eventually accepted was fake and gay. Just because you were too stupid to see something cringe for what it was as it unfolded before your eyes.

>>2345711
Why are there more redactions than the Epstein files???
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>>2345610
Imagine being a non-faggot Ukrainian and seeing that post, you'd think it was some FSB falseflag to make you all look bad.
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>>2345713
L is probably Latinists.
I is probably Identitarians.
Not sure what N is, that old American flag has a lot of potential uses.
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>>2345711
>its unfortunate, because a 1991 is a really good idea
Just play Red Dusk.
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>>2345684
Red Dusk does ok with that start date given the non-collapse of the USSR though I do find it hard to believe nothing happened in those nine years at all, not even the reconquest of the admittedly few breakaway states.
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>>2345717
I think they're well-acqainted with Redditors, in this case the military wing of Reddit and its consequences.
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>>2345720
Different setting and premise, wouldn't scratch the same itch.

>>2345721
2000 works well if you have an ongoing cold war and some creative leeway to work with. Early war on terror just doesn't work with HOI4 imo.
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>>2345711
>Gorbachev's success
Oxymoron. Also 1991 was comically too late for him to salvage anything of his rule. Whether the Soviets would have survived is questionable but his reign was dead.
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>>2345713
>>2345719
It might just be nationalists.
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>>2345744
I thought so too but went "nah that's too easy" but it's honestly the only one I can think of.
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im still getting btfo by trump
i don't remember what i did differently on that run where i managed to beat him, but lost to a minigame
btw trump did get my pre-civil war land doctrine of asymmetric warfare which boosts militia org and gives guerrilla tactics
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>>2345755
Might be because you're just doing one big push? Try to micro a bit with your best units and also make sure that your tanks are distributed more where you can afford the logistics, by just having a big line the AI often just clogs things up and it's harder to overrun stuff.
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>>2345755
From the looks of the other regions' conflicts you're still in the early days of the conflict. You're doing alright, just make sure you're pushing steadily in Kansas, Nebraska towards Colorado. Try to take Minneapolis if you can spare the men.
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>>2345759
on my good run i was basically clearing him up by the late 2022
i think i got a juicy encirclement around saint louis and trump sort of fell apart after that
now im just bruteforcing and it's grueling because trump shits out militia nonstop and his every division has like 300 defense
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these fags declared on me before even finishing their region
im just gonna restart from scratch, banging against the wall because i picked a wrong doctrine pre-war is dumb
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>>2345725
Red Dusk's manpower minigame with Afghanistan is probably the closet way to represent it but that doesn't feel particularly fun to me. The volunteer mechanic, however, at least gives some funny moments like pic rel.
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So if I wanted to fix New Vegas in OWB, all I have to do is open the
>New Vegas (VEG) Focus.txt
file and change every instance of
>cost = 60
to
>cost = 30
right?
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>>2345774
>Southern Federal Command dominating
>Patriot Front with their capital about to be taken
>I have to restart guys
Actual skill issue, also when will you learn to garrison your borders? There are two aggressively anti-you groups and you can't even spare any militia too slow them down because you are trying to Barbarossa Trump. Take Tulsa to Minneapolis and then hold until you have cleared Detroit and New York, stop trying to be Rommel because clearly you do not have it in you.
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i think this focus tree icon is better. thoughts? i just need to get better at my prompts i think. i added a description for this one, thought it could be one of those icons that appears when you're selecting the country
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>>2345781
Bruh PTF are getting their asses kicked, just reload an autosave, move some troops there to wreck them and Big Burt, go back to defeating Trump. It's not that hard. You literally have the best opportunity imaginable to beat them outside of having rolled Trump early.
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>>2345791
Nigga what are you doing
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>>2345795
south africa submod that i hope to get incorporated in the main tfr mod
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>>2345797
Bless your heart but it's not happening.
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>>2345781
The mythical 1k soft attack div!
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>>2345798
maybe not but if i can get it working then it would be good. coming up with 10 years of content and focus trees is kind of tough.. i think i should plan it out rather than wing it?
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>>2345808
Do you mean pre civil war content?
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>>2345811
pre, war, and post war. i only want to do fully fleshed out content for ANC though. the boers are incestuous assholes. don't know enough about the communists except for a few things like marxist thought and maybe child soldiers. and the military pro-western faction is weird.. seems like white leaders in charge of everything like a minor apartheid without the hardcore racism
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>>2345818
i could do skeleton content for zulu ig
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>>2345818
I cannot help you as I consider you scum, do not reply to me any further.
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>>2345822
dunno why i'm scum, but ok
got a new focus icon. this is one of the better looking ones i think
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>>2345824
NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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>>2345824
I genuinely can't tell if this is bait or if you are an actual retard.
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>>2345824
based, don't listen to the haters
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This thread should be harder to bait
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If Dark Maga will be Trump's Caligula, what do you think will be his Cognoscenti? Flynn's coup?
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>>2345839
I think some of these posters are just really fucking dumb.

>>2345841
Flynn coup was cut wasn't it? Doubt they'd bring it back.
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>>2345842
>Flynn coup was cut wasn't it? Doubt they'd bring it back.
It was in 1.0.5 when they reworked Trump a bit, but I think there's merit in bringing it back. A coupe path for a Trump that sells out the movement and hops in bed with bureaucrats could believably be couped if the conditions are right.
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>>2345844
Why? That's stupid. Then you'd just have a coup guy that does what establishment Trump does or something like that. Why not just go for militant MAGA and have Flynn be an actual successor and build on the strengths of what a military man at the helm could bring to the tag? The coup thing is just so dumb and boring if it's just going to loop you back to a shittier version of the Patriot branch.
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>>2345786
fuck off retard
guerrilla tactics + org boost + endless militia = aids
picking a pre-war doctrine which actually helps me made everything million times easier
managed to btfo nsm and patriot front easily too
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>>2345869
Bruh it's fucking militia how the fuck do your mechanized units with 500 times more attack than they have defense lose just because the militias have a few early game buffs??? Kudos on actually winning in the end I guess.
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>>2345870
>the militias have a few early game buffs
Buffs that make them Supermans.
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>>2345872
IT'S LITERALLY THE WEAKEST UNIT IN THE MOD YOU UTTER BUFFOON
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>>2345878
Second weakest unit in the mod, in fact, with the weakest unit being 'whatever the militias fight against, regardless of composition'. Could be basic bitch infantry, could be an armored division, the militias somehow roll them.
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>>2345881
SKILL
FUCKING
ISSUE
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>>2345889
Right, it totally is skill issue when my dudes' attack drops in the two digits for bullshit reasons and the militia has a defense in the thousands for equally bullshit reasons.
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>>2345744
>>2345747
given that its a old us flag it could be Nativism
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>>2345894
Yes it's a skill issue. Never post again.
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I love TFR but I hate to see the direction they are going
>Removing Caligula
>Removing Lafayette and Radelfuhrer
>Reworking the Civil War
>1.1 has continuously been pushed back and will most likely never release
It seems like they're going the same path as TNO. People defending this need to remember that TNO's removal of content also started with small things and eventually turned into death from a thousand cuts
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>>2338263
How does this game get consistently worse? I fear the next DLC slop, I'm still fucking seething that they replaced "Request Garrison Support" like you wouldn't believe.
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>>2345905
I get that everyone's afraid of it becoming total shit like TNO but all we have so far is:
>Caligula treated like Wagner in that it'll be made opt-in
>Lafayette will become an actual person instead of an OC donut steel
>A few non-unifiers swapped around on the map
What gives me faith is that Cognoscenti and WEF/Catharsis were if anything even more ambitious and destructive than any previous content, so they've earned my trust that they won't turn into TNO with that. With TNO they literally just deleted it and we know for a fact that their leads absolutely loathe everything they think is unrealistic while TFR instead adds a microchip zombie apocalypse and glowie world conquest route. There's ample reason to believe that they'll improve Caligula, flesh out Lafayette and add more ACW paths instead of the other way around.

On the other hand IF they fucking DELETE Caligula or do the shit you say though then we should definitely be wary of TNOfication.
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kwab
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attached is another focus icon for my submod. i think i'm getting better at prompts.. i think they're turning out good. the idea is that when covid hits south africa, ANC begins its repatriation plan of giving land back to the native farmers. this plan continues, and more conduct by ANC with a bad covid results in the civil war
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>>2345393
Play as Japan, mog the retarded AI, win, tag switch to China
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>>2345387
Non-dystopian version: the economy is automated and people barely have to work, allowing people the free time to actually raise more kids
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>>2345592
Its a roleplay thing. There's always a second war, but losing the first war means China wages the second one under new leadership and potentially a completely different kind of government.
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>>2346101
>>2346103
Shouldn't a player get to experience all content without gaming the system to force their own loss? In TNO, people don't need to "roleplay" their own defeat. They get to play the game naturally.
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>>2346172
They should, yes. Other than the railroading it's TFR's biggest fault.
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>>2346172
>TNO
Terrible example since it's the most railroaded mod out there and is aiming to be even worse to the point where they're doing shit like stripping out all the wars from Europe to protect Germany's narrative. And while TFR at least (unless you're the EU) gives you a choice in whether you want to fail or not to get a new route TNO just does shit like ignoring all your choices as Bormann only to railroad you into a failure at the end.

A much better example would be Kaiserreich which mostly gives the player the freedom to explore things without needing to lose wars. Where it occasionally does like with some old Bulgarian content or the Ottomans iirc, these things happen in 1937, meaning that you're at least not wasting time unlike TFR that needs you to sit around for the length of a full vanilla playthrough.

I can see why they'd lock cataclysmic changes behind a loss in what's basically ww3 since otherwise Nazi Europe would be a total asspull but shit like it taking place so far in and requiring shit like specific wartime opponents is just terrible. Just giving the EU the freedom to choose like Russia and having the wars take place earlier would at least ease these but I don't really see it happening. Or heck, maybe rework some of the win states to include at least elements of the other routes. Reformist China forming even if they win makes sense, and a democratizing China against militarist Japan would be a better narrative contrast than Xi's dictatorship.

to;dr agree with the problems, just disagree with your example when TFR can learn lessons from better mods.
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>>2346215
Regardless of your personal tastes, TNO doesn't give the players a situation where you have to lose a war intentionally, contrary to the mechanics of the war/game, simply to gain access to new content.
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>>2346222
No it's still a terrible example to use the mod that is removing or railroading all wars and they're even planning to double down on the bad shit that TFR does by having several post-Bormann routes in TNO 2 be locked behind you losing the wrw like socialist Germany with the game span being nearly a decade longer than losing 1EW would do. And while it doesn't outright force you to lose wars you were heavily incentivized to lose wars like the SAW (which is being deleted) to get the NPP content (also being deleted). So no, TNO is a terrible example unless you're looking at their Russian content, which was the main inspiration for the ACW. Funny how the best and most liked content in both mods is the least railroaded - almost like both need to get a freaking hint.
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>>2346222
>TNO doesn't give the players a situation where you have to lose a war intentionally, contrary to the mechanics of the war/game, simply to gain access to new content.
but it does??
see: the US extreme presidents
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>>2346236
nayrt but no it doesn't, like I said in my post you're just heavily incentivized to lose/drag out wars, but you don't NEED to go on a losing streak. Not that it matters, all that content is being removed soon anyway.
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>>2346222
They won't even have any actual wars of importance left to lose soon so it's a moot point to use them as an example.
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Would you guys prefer more paths or longer paths for a tag?
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>>2346247
few long paths that are engaging, like KX has a billion paths but most of them I don't give care about
it's funny because playing a liberal democracy in KX is boring as fuck, but playing liberal democratic Italy is really engaging because it's a dying ideology.
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>>2346247
I don't care as long as they're fun and well-made.
Lots of paths don't matter if you have them be pointless palette swaps like a lot of the worst examples from KX and TFR, and long paths don't matter if it's ten in-game years of doing nothing like in TNO's worst cases. Just make the content fun and meaningful.
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>>2346250
>ut playing liberal democratic Italy
in Red Flood, I meant to say.
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>>2346222
>TNO doesn't give the players a situation where you have to lose a war intentionally, contrary to the mechanics of the war/game, simply to gain access to new content.
Hey retard
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>>2345869
>picking a pre-war
>doing anything as pre-war US other then focuses at five speed
That aside, so you were able to actually learn to watch your flanks this time? Have you played Russia yet? I'll look forward to reading your posts about how you forgot Norway and Turkey are in NATO.
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>>2346280
I vaccinate and mask the areas I will spawn in.
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>>2346247
Longer paths, but not just "long" as in that communist EAW path in the Zebra continent or Cognescenti which honestly just kind of goes on and on and gets tiresome. A good example of a long path is America in TNO, which pits you against Nazi-Germany that won WW2 and is in position to be in charge of the world. It actually feels like you're alone in the fight and backed against a corner as you build up the Organization of Free Nations to counter Nazi power.
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The astroturfed drama whore, ErrorLog, is whining to his fans about being IP banned from the TFR and EAW discord.
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>>2346280
>forgot Norway and Turkey are in NATO
I remember the first time I played Russia and while I did remember to put 3 infantry guys on the border with Norway (all you need desu) I neglected to deal with Turkey but it somehow worked out because Armenia or whatever held them off in the mountains long enough for me to fix that because the AI is as stupid as me sometimes.
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>>2346311
well there IS no other ban other than a "IP ban" on discord
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>>2346311
KWAB
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>>2346311
Pics please. Also I can't wait for his inevitable TFR video where he seethes about this.
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>>2346280
winning libya and arabia wars is fun even if you don't get anything for it
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>>2346313
Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are Medvedev's greatest soldiers.
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>>2346336
You might be able to level up a general or two.
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>>2346336
Winning those wars should give you resource rights
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>>2346336
>ven if you don't get anything for it
But you do, it is literally a way to get early xp to improve your designs and doctrines, and you get ideologically aligned state that you can trade with, which is quite usefull especially since the embargoes are a thing
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>>2346348
It's funny how Azerbaijan and Armenia team up to fight Greece and Turkey.
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So it's basically confirmed that TFR is russian propaganda.
Then there's African Dawn.
Any other mod made by kremlin?
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>>2346434
>TFR is russian propaganda.
How?
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>>2346434
Fuck off retard.
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>>2346434
>mod lets you win as Russia
>in a game
>"Wow, this must be a Russian propaganda"
I know zoomers have intelligence below room´s tempeterature but this is seriously too low
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>>2346444
Daily reminder that the screenshot has NOTHING TO DO with immigration.
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>>2346445
It doesn't. It is a result of systemic work by elites to make people stupid, through simplifying education curricula, pushing social media, propaganda, and popular push to promote anti-intellectualism.
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>>2346434
Your source, sire?
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>>2346450
Don't need a source. It's obvious.
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>>2346458
So nothing is confirmed and it's just vibes, is that what you're saying?
You can literally play as any European country and kick Russia's ass.
The point of TFR is that it's literally everyone propaganda. You can succeed no matter who you play as.
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>>2346445
>>2346447
It's both, to pretend otherwise is ignorant.
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>TFR submod teaser
Dies irae, dies illa,
Solvet saeclum in favilla...
Vocamus te, Aeshma-Diva!
Agios o Vindex! Agios o Baphomet!

The new update for The Flavor Expansion - The Final Aeon is coming next week, on February 24, 2026!

We are proud to announce that this is the largest update in the history of The Flavor Expansion. We have put in a tremendous amount of work to immerse you in the darkest, most brutal, and profound aspects of esoteric fascism on the ruins of America.

What awaits you in The Final Aeon:

Over 200 new events for the O9A Satanists!

Over 100 new events for the starting Atomwaffen tree!
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>>2346472
teaser makes it seem overwritten as fuck.
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>>2346472
>Atomwaffen
Is it only for them? I never play them.
>>2346478
I understand setting the tone of the world but that might actually get the flavour mod struck down. The non-con sexual stuff has almost certainly crossed a Steam line. They've gone too heavy.
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>200 new events for a subfaction!
>100 new events for another!
god it's going to be worse than TNO isn't it? There can't be 100 events in an entire UOB playthrough..
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>>2346475
mfw the occultists use flowery language
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>>2346484
>angles
It's angels, dumbass modders.
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>>2346481
They seem to be working towards adding events for all the reformist ldpr paths (democracy, monarchy etc) as they already have them for the pre war and hardliner ldpr.
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>>2346490
What a useless waste of effort. Just more bullshit to skip over. Would be better to exert that energy into focusing on a great longterm development of a mid-tier country and hope to get it picked up by the TFR devs.
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>>2345905
They arent "removing" Lafayette or Radelsfuher, they're placing a real face for Lafa and (presumably) making the writing for Radels better than it is right now. Where do you people get these made-up nonsense from? Has TNO mindraped HOI4 fans so much that any semblance of redoing old content that isnt up to par immediately gets the retards to jump and say: "OMG DIS IS LEIK MUH TEE EN OH!"
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>>2346311
sad
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>>2346499
You were saying?
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>>2346488
Anon...
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>>2346488
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles
You're such a dumb, lazy motherfucker it's unreal.

>>2346514
>He made a joke about TNO after saying what they were actually going to do
>That means that it's becoming like TNO! For real!

>>2346499
I think it's justified to some extent. TNO is by far the worst downfall for a mod in HOI4 history so of course a lot of people will be hypersensitive to changes. The TNO devs really poisoned the well and have destroyed terms like "rework" and "facelift" for a lot of people.
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>>2346514
The text saying they're cut doesn't even look like the rest of the post.
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>>2346533
You're right, the font is different and it's too big to just be the command to make text smaller. Pretty weak troll.
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Whatever happened to that KX Austria update.
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>>2346584
The guy working on it(guneric) is mentally ill, he will take like a year long hiatus then shit out a bunch of content in the span of a few months.
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How do I get the Nazis back in Germany in TFR? I wish there were path guides for this, "purging the extremists in the army" is too ambiguous.
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>>2346604
>Purge the extremists in the army before the 1EW
>Lose the 1EW to CPRF Russia
>Pick Franz
>Go down the True to Form path
>Pick Sieg Heil in the final event of the tree
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>>2346609
Does that have a proper route?
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>>2346604
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Federal_Republic_of_Germany/German_People%27s_State
All routes are explained on the Wiki.
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>>2346490
>hardliner ldpr
Who has the best events or do they cover all the leaders on the hawk side?
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germany having basically a support playstyle is really cool
i don't remember seeing alliance-wide buffs as the main country gimmick in other mods
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>>2346499
Already addressed this in my first post, but yes this is how it began with TNO cutting and reworking small seemingly unimportant “memey” content like Globalplans and Order 44 and eventually we got to the point we are at now. I’m not saying TFR is going to get to that level, it’s more that mindset itself of this old content is bad and we need to fix it to be in accordance with our new vision instead of just leaving it be or at most allowing it to exist as a game rule like they are planning to do for Caligula
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>>2346336
France, Germany and Russia get temporary buffs (national spirits) for winning in Libya, Arabia and the Maghreb. iirc political power and some GDP-related buffs, though they slightly differ for each conflict. Supported sides are pre-set though, most notably for France in Arabia where you have to support the Republic even though the French focus tree lets you aid the Kingdom.
>>2346370
Unfortunately, embargoes in TFR are currently fucked as every nation in the world will embargo you for raising world tension as soon as they have the political power for it, regardless of alignment.
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>>2346717
But that whole thing falls apart when you consider the fact that TFR added more extreme and elaborate content by the same people you're tacitly accusing of being crypto-realismfags. The nudev clique has literally never created anything except for elaborate plans to rework things and they've exclusively torn things down. I don't think it's a fair comparison at all and it sounds like you've become paranoid just because TNO has had such a complete collapse.
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>>2346717
I feel like you are falling into a slippery slope mindset, a decent amount of older TFR content while decent, could be better. I mean have you looked at the APLA? The NeoSoc and Anarchist paths are basically parodying the very factions you play as.
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>>2346734
It always starts this way.
>ohh path X needs a rework
Then it's 205 reworks later...
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I hope GMC goes completely off the rails into Ace Combat territory
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>>2346735
Nigger TNO is the only mod of note that self destructed that way.
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TNO ptsd has truly been a disaster for hoi4 modding, now the people crying about Tnoification are almost as niggerish as the troons who ruined TNO
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>>2346746
Quite grim, isn't it? Hopefully these reworks end up being good and help quell the PTSD attacks.
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>>2346752
Hopefully updated Lafayette as an actual person will get new content. Same with Caligula. If they just give them some love and effort, that'll win over the doubters.

Either that or they'll be buckbroken over TNO forever I guess.
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>>2346746
>everyone should be le cheerful happy drone
no.
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socialism with latinx characteristics
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>>2346732
I don't think they're removing anything for realism, I understand how my posts came across but that's not what I was trying to say, I think they're looking to rework and remove content for not aligning with their new vision of the mod
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>>2346623
The mercenary guy for the LDPR party path was my favourite, you get an event chain for selling weapons to all the american warlords.
>>2346763
Could you tag switch to them to check their inflation rate
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>>2346775
venezuela somehow managed to rack up 12 trillions of debt
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>>2346772
So if they aren't removing anything for realism and just try to do things like removing placeholders and using real people in place of OCs, what's even the issue? So far there's nothing to point to a TNOfication of the mod. If they turn Caligula into something closer to their current 1.1 routes instead of just a Taboritsky ripoff or have Lafayette unmask to show a real guy, that's fine in my book. There's one major downside to it that I think we can all agree with though: it'd make maskfag stop seething uncontrollably and that'd be a great loss for these threads.
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>>2346780
And they say TFR is an unrealistic mod.
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Mods and how my gf would respond to them-
>KAISERREICH is an amazingly realistic portrayal that presupposes a difference in history: what if Germany won ww1, and all of the butterfly effects it has around the world, such as Germany intervening in Chiang Kai Shek's attack on Beijing, resulting in his death and the shattering of the KMT in the Sinosphere...
>wow, sounds fascinating and intellectual!
>KAISERREDUX is an offshoot of Kaiserreich, but it's more focused on raising unique people throughout history and placing them into positions of power, and seeing what would happen if they were in charge. Recall Cthulhu, its author, Lovecraft, is a possible leader..
>omg, that's so cool
>PAX BRITANNICA is a steampunk technological wonderworld that imagines a universe in which Queen Victoria never died, and Britain created an oasis project in the Sahara to stop desertification, unknowingly creating a desert in the Amazon rainforest...
>that's so cool and hot as fuck, I love technology
>THE NEW ORDER is about a scenario that depicts the fall of Europe and the conquest of it by Nazi Germany, and an America that stands up to it; it is the 1960s, and a chillish cold war exists between the two superpowers, along with Japan, and the mod is about depicting a fight of good versus evil, told through dark and well-written narratives
>books are good, sounds deeply cerebral
>THE FIRE RISES is mostly an alt-right power fantasy mod that imagines a world where Biden has dementia, Trump is a hero, Russia and China are uniting the world under BRICS, which it asserts is a good thing, and even the alt-right cryptobros' hero, Bukele, unites Central America, which is celebrated by the mod
>ew, that gives me the ick
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>>2346843
Your gf is actually a mentally ill dude.
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>>2346843
kys
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>>2346514
>poorly editing posts to try and justify your own schizophrenia
Holy shit lmao
You are a genuine lolcow
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>>2346974
It's real in his head, damn it!
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>>2346843
>Biden has dementia, Trump is a hero
This is true though.
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>>2346978
America is a nation that can be described in a single word:
asufuhsuhfuh... excuse me, the foothills of the Himalayas with Xi Jinping.
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Reminder that just because a mod might be well-received or liked by more people, does not mean it is the better mod. There is such a thing as quality work product, and internal discipline in creating something that has a lasting legacy. TFR won't have a legacy, because at it's core it is an immature project.
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>>2346984
Ultimately though, it is anti-art to actively work or defame a less mature form of art, especially as it trying to mature itself, you are just strangling a baby in it's crib for not acting like an adult.
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does posting braindead takes and aislop even count as bait
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>quality work product
TNO went from being one of the most popular and influential mods out there to catering to a tiny niche of Redditors that don't even like playing HoI4. That is its legacy.
I guess super events, too.
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>>2346984
>TNO devs
>Working
>Not just endlessly shitposting in Doki 24/7
Good one.
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>>2347151
It's Jude's head, a trophy. You should be happy for their success.
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>>2346984
>unironically using AI art in posts
4Chan truly is dead, there is no hope for the site, Mossad won
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>>2347160
Don't blame your kin, he's obviously the same TNO dev that accidentally posted his dev build earlier in the thread.
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Some interesting discoveries were made after glimpsing at the The Fire Rises Discord community. First, and this should come as no surprise, the community is rife with the "retard" slur. For 1 out of every 5 times that people in this community say "TFR," they're calling something "retarded" or otherwise using the word "retard." This speaks for itself. Second, the TFR Discord community seems obsessed with TNO. There have been 12,406 mentions of "TNO" in the TFR Discord, despite the TFR Discord being remade last year. Moreover, people in the TFR community have only said "TFR" 42,856 times. This is about 29%, or 3 out of every 10 TFR references are TNO references. Why does the TFR community feel the need to talk about TNO so much if it's such a flawed, terrible mod? Because people actually love to play it, including the vast majority of TFR players. And for TNO's haters, it's now clear that TNO lives rent-free in their head.
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>>2347195
Proof is attached.
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>>2347195
>retard who is seething about TFR all the time is complaining that TFR is seething about TNO
First, you should clean up in front of your doorstep.
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>>2346843
>>ew, that gives me the ick
Caligula Biden will roundhouse kick that foid.
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>>2347195
>>2347196
Thanks for the teaser for your upcoming video about TFR, Likgas AKA Error Log. Getting banned from the TFR server really must've struck a nerve with you if you're bringing out the big guns of bitching about your fellow retards getting called out like you did with GWR.
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Did the OWB mods that depend on Rustbelt Rising update? I want to play with the whole map
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>>2346843
>trannychaser on /vst/
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>Chiropterra has no content for conquering Equestria
What are we even doing
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>>2347245
You exist as a side piece to a faction that may not even appear. Good luck.
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>>2347247
game rules and set it up
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>>2347247
>>2347248
Chiropterra is fun even when no civil war breaks out doe
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>>2347245
Because the main story for Chiropterra is that they are a remnant of a failed cause. It is a very romantic idea. Not something a hylic like you could understand.
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By the by, I think the TFRdevs have some explaining to do.
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>>2347258
>These teasers were actually completely AI generated and none of them are real
Woah...
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>>2347261
to be fair, making a teaser is the easiest thing under the sun, that is literally what gave rise to the concept of a toozer mod
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>>2347263
It still shows work is being done since they did have to create those focus trees, the GFX, and write events. Also TFR actually releases updates so we have good reason to believe this is all real and not just smoke and mirrors.
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>>2347265
>>It still shows work is being done since they did have to create those focus trees
>newfag doesnt know about toozer mods making teasers for clout
>literally most famously Godspeed which then uploaded files after it died officially and we learned that the entire development didnt go anywhere after all those years
Newfag, please, educate yourself.
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>>2347267
>Toozer mods exist so TFR must be one despite us already knowing it's not one
When 1.1 releases please livestream your suicide.
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>>2347269
>>Toozer mods exist so TFR must be one despite us already knowing it's not one
That is not what I am saying at all.
My point was that
>>These teasers were actually completely AI generated and none of them are real
Your original point is a very stupid way to disprove anything, because toozer mods exist.
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TFR completely fucking mind broke this nigger.
>Edits screenshots of discord posts
>Whines about "slurs" in the gommcord
>Takes jokes seriously and pretends the mod doesn't exist
>He lurks on their Discord 24/7 with an alt in the hopes of finding one crumb of drama to make hay out of
Embarrassing.
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>>2347256
>Because the main story for Chiropterra is that they are a remnant of a failed cause
THAT'S LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY IN EAW YOU DUMB FUCK
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>>2347280
Not to the same extent as chiropterra. Did you miss the whole shtick they have?
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>newfags think that everyone is the same person
I am not this >>2347258 retard
I am just pointing out, using teasers as an argument of anything is stupid and retarded when toozer mods exist.
At least use the actual updates as an example next time.
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>>2347282
I didn't miss anything, I point out that it's a red herring that doesn't lead anywhere. It's like Griffonian Republic having no content after conquering the empire because their story is about being losers
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>>2347280
>THAT'S LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY IN EAW YOU DUMB FUCK
No, that is incorrect. Learn how to read themes.
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>>2347280
No. Some countries are trying to not become a failed cause (Kiria). some others have a failed cause, but aren't remnants (Changelings) and some are remnants of a cause that IS failing (all the Equestria offshoots after the Sisters War starts)
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>>2347284
>Multiple French routes
>WEF Germany
>Glowie America
>Large expansions to LDPR and CPRF
>"Uhm it's a toozer mod without content TNO is better also those updates don't count."
We've been here before.
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>>2347294
Yes, that is my point. If only you said that from the beginning.
This is why retarded trolls can plague these threads, because you can't even argue properly until someone tells you what to say.
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>>2347284
Please hire the guy who is making AI focus icons to work on your mod.
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>>2347295
You've been told this multiple times in this thread already and every time you come back a day later with some new form of pathetic concern trolling.
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>>2347297
>my mod
How do you know I made myself a mod adding Ouroboros for Austria?
>using AI shit
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>>2347300
You absolute nigger, I am not the TNOfag. I merely pointing out the flaw in your post >>2347261
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>>2347286
>>2347293
What a retarded pretentious faggots. It reminds me of the time I spent arguing with TNO devs back when it was infested with tno shills who tried to debate every single issue and misstook forest for the trees. Can you explain plainly why a nation solely focused on reclaiming equestria shouldn't have any content dedicated to accomplishing said goal?
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>>2347309
>it
meant tno general thread
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>>2347311
Actually now that I think of it chiropterra came out back when TNO was popular so it was inspired by their doomed to fail and "NO YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY DO THAT" design philosophy. It makes sense why former TNO dev would defend a content that is so similar to what they make
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>>2347313
nayrt but that might be it. You can see traces of that mentality in other content designed around the time. Thank God TNO is dead now and that we'll see way less of this shit in the future.
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tnodev getting btfo in tfr thread of all places has been very entertaining
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>>2347326
It's funny because a few days ago he bitched about /tno/ being a hate thread but his shilling here turned general into a TNO hate thread too.

If he wanted some positivity about TNO he could put out the Iberia update already. You know, the one we were promised would drop in December.
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What should I play as an almost first time player of EaW? I did a run as the Griffonian Republic, and it was alright, but it didn't live up to the hype the mod gets, it felt like older Kaiserreich content such as South America. What better options are there?
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>>2347410
Griffonian Empire, though its on the easy side is good. If you want something else in that region, try Yale's Grover II path.
Hippogriffia is pretty good. The Siren path is my favorite in it.
I really liked Lan Kir, though its a contraversial one.
Longsword is very fun. I would suggest Golden Morning's path.
Equestria has some fun breakaways in the civil war. Lunar Empire and Celestial State is great.
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>>2347417
That's quite a few suggestions. I've heard that EaW is mechanically impressive too, which of these picks would you say is best for that?
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Which TFR country has plenty of naval battles? Also, is the Japan tree all there is? Nothing look like it'll unlock more of the tree or anything.
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>>2347423
china and japan have actual naval battles rest don't. If you want an easy naval game then pick china and if you want to be the underdog pick japan.
Also you unlock more of your focus tree after the elections and then unlock another focus tree after the taiwan war.
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>>2347410
not lan kir, that's for sure :D
May as well do a schizo path, play as Colthage, fail preventing the civil war, when you get an event to peace out, agree to it. When Coltva rises up, switch to them, delete your army in advance if you don't want a needlessly long/difficult war. When you win, do literally nothing (maybe eхcept the first focus) and watch as your country collapses. You'll descend into a third civil war, choose the purple guys (the Ascendancy/Covenant/Hippone, forgot how they're called at the start)

Congrats, now you can enjoy an alchemy simulator with a lot of conquest that envolves conquering an entire continent and genociding all the disgusting avians.
>>2347421
Barrad has an RPG battle (with graphics and all) as the conclusion to its early game
The Celestial Resistance has a very unique path, but make sure to alter Equestria in the game rules to go Solarist. Then, side with your Solarists and do *not* stop daring do.
Sirens are another one of those mechanical paths IIRC
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>>2347423
Japan and China got the most. Russia is a distant third.
>Focus tree
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/State_of_Japan#Start_tree
Entire tree can be viewed on the Wiki.
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>>2347421
Hard to say. I typically dont like it when they overuse special mechanics. I guess Hippogriff siren path has a cool magic system while Celestial State has a very unique secret path.

Though if you want something with very unique mechanics, try Azir. You will need to wait like, 2-3 ingame years before you can finally do anything, and you need to get some event decisions right. Its sort of a secret path of sorts.
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>>2347430
Hmm, I think I'll save schizo paths and gamerules until later. I prefer to start new mods with simpler paths until I have some idea of what the fuck is going on. Admittedly that's why I mostly play 2 mods (Kaiserreich and TFR), I like knowing the structure of the mod and anything that might happen. But maybe EaW will make it a trinity, we'll see.
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>>2347440
In that case, if your doing Hippogriffia, Id suggest the siren path for later. If your going harmony, I would recommend setting it to historical so you can have a proper war.
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>>2347440
In that case, the Changelings are straightforward and pretty fun. After you win the war, you'll have a bunch of post-war content, some people really like it, others don't.
Equestria is one of the more outdated nations (though it can still be fun), but as another anon said, it can fall to a civil war, some of the breakaways are properly up to date. The Lunar Empire is fairly liked.
For Griffonia, you also have the Empire, Aquileia (I'd suggest going with the Republic path), and Wingbardy. Aside from the republic, those are the strongest powers that'll usually unify their region and go beyond it.
Griffonia has many weaker nations that have a lot of content. Yale and Longsword are a good introduction to that as the other anon mentioned.
For the last continent, you've got Colthage, Chiropterra, Hippogriffia, all participants of the North Zebrican War. Hippogriffia specifically has content even if it loses the war. Chiropterra can lead to two very different games depending on what Equestria does, and has eхpansive post-war content regardless. Colthage has many paths, so you can't really fuck it up.

For mechanics, alas, the countries that are the best eхamples of them also happen to be the more schizo/hidden routes. The Aquileian Republic has a parliament mechanic, guess there's that.
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>>2346243
post more MDIB
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>>2346320
this fucker has the whiniest voice I've ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7BSJ6bfqg&t=1161s
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>>2347313
>TNOhaters now blame any design decision in any mod they dislike on TNO
>their controllable seethe is unquenchable
Do you all even listen to yourselves?
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TNOenjoyers enjoy the books of the following:
>The Art of War, Sun Tzu
>On War, Clausewitz
>The Federalist Papers
>Democracy in America
>The Strategy of Conflict
>The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
TFRpeons, however, read the following:
>Art of War, Jomini
>The End of the World Is Just the Beginning
>Technological Slavery
>The Great Reset and the War for the World, Alex Jones
>BRICS and the Future of Global Order
>The Post-American World
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>>2347499
>TNO becomes popular
>People start to take inspiration from TNO, both good and bad parts
>People trace back these parts to TNO as an obvious source of inspiration
This is the most normal thing ever. Trends are a thing and sometimes it's only with a 20:20 hindsight that the broad majority realize that some of these didn't work out. Also please stop posting AI slop, it's embarrassing. It can't even get text right and looks awful.
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>>2347499
Because TNO did everything a mod could do to kill itself.
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>>2347525
To be fair only after 2022 when Mango took over the mod and he and Lamounier started to purge anyone that wanted actual gameplay. Before then TNO was popular and influential because they pioneered a lot of successful concepts as well.
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>>2344657
>Lafayette is fully a donut steele though
That's why we love him, same with Loji.

>>2344702
>The TFR devs have stated that Lafayette will be rewritten to start as a real life person...
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They killed Lafayette....
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>>2345612
Don't mention it to the trans fanbase.
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>>2347547
It’s Impossible for TFR to happen irl now, it’s over
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>>2347519
>AI slop
Fucking embarrassing.
You bring dishonour to your bloodline. Kill yourself, this instant.
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>TNOhaters spend years of their life on a crusade to kill TNO
>finally find an alt-right chud mod to hoist up and say "see play this instead" and convince a few people to join them
>now they complain whenever people talk positively about TNO
Is it not obvious what they've done to this community?
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Does anyone have the manifesto of that black white supremacist school shooter who said that mlp and tno drove him to the shooting.
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>>2347617
>crusade to kill TNO
Enough about the TNO devs, though.
BTW we're reworking this region again for the fifteenth time because the personal politics of one of the leads shifted.
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>gets told to stop making ai slop bullshit
>proceeds to make the worst I AM SILLY ms paint smuggie i have ever seen
Maybe you should just kill yourself, yeah?
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How much content do Chirpoterra and Lunar Empire have? I am currently torn on which one to play.
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>>2347624
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>>2347637
I don't do anything for you, because it's clear you're just a TFRdrone who hates on anything related to TNO. I do it for onlookers, who should know what you people do.
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>>2347617
This is so tone deaf that it has to be a dev or a troll.
Most TNO haters are just fans that hate the complete 180 that the mod took. That's why it garners so much more hate than the comparative indifference that Kalterkrieg, another nothing ever happens mod. They built up a huge fanbase and then told hundreds of thousands of people that significant portions of the content they liked was getting cut and that they were stupid for liking it in the first place. In almost every a-logging community no one will be more passionately hateful than scorned fans and team members and TNO's new leads created record amounts of both by not just changing out all content but then purging people and getting into political clique drama internally. For fucks sake, people just wish these people had added more Russian warlords or fixed Burgundy, not posted to replace all wars with minigames over the span of five years and deliver almost nothing in the end.
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>>2347617
TFR shills are former TNO fans that watched a mod with so much potential get raped to death. Like me.
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>>2347676
But it's a strawman. It has no relation to the reality situation, where TNO is slowly killing itself and TFR is just existing and siphoning players from TNO, which has been working on a Germany rework for longer than it took for TFR to go from concept to releasing its first version.
It's literally the
>does nothing
>wins
meme.
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>>2347685
Makes sense why tfr shills are as obnoxious as tno shills in 2022, you're the same person. You are cocksuckers with no personality besides sweeping for your team no matter what it does. You never think. You never analyse anything. You don't search. You could be malding about how tfr must have OCs only to backpedal and admit I was right about everything after tfr devs came out and decided to remove ocs. Pathetic
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tnodev falseflagging only happens in eastern european hours
i thought it was curious
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>>2347679
You act holier-than-thou despite the fact that you weren't forced to play TNO. If you don't like the reworks, that's fine; you don't have to pretend that the devs stabbed you in the back or committed some grave holocaust. There are plenty of people who do like the reworks. With any change, you're going to have the oldguard screaming and shouting and saying "no! no! no!" but that doesn't mean it's wrong. Ultimately, the TNOdevs care about its legacy and the messages it conveys. You might think le funny memes are great for longevity, but trust me- they aren't. Things needed to be stripped from the mod.
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>>2347694
>>2347699
You're clearly the anxious one since you're coming here and dishonestly shilling your dying mod instead of actually finishing the Iberia rework you were supposed to put out months ago.
>No one forced you to play it
Yeah no shit, people were intrigued by the mod in the first place and felt betrayed when the nudev clique you're part of decided to dismantle all of it.

>>2347698
He seems to go to bed sometime after midnight EST, it's been a constant pattern since he started to shit up the threads for several hours a day. Any excuse to not finish their fucking reworks.
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>>2347681
Have you thought about letting the TNOdevs cook? Give them time. It doesn't help when you have people trying to sabotage the development. Nobody goes around infiltrating the TFRdevteam to leak content and create non-stop TNOhate threads trying to recruit people into hating TNO, and bashing any positive mention of TNO and forcing people out of the /vst/ community. TNO didn't do that. The devs didn't do that. A few obsessed haters did that and are doing that.
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>>2347699
>You might think the [things people actually liked] are great for longevity, but trust me- they aren't
Reminder that not even the TNO leads believe this and that they're motivated by jealousy as they tear down what better people made.
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>>2347704
>>2347685
>Give them time
It's been half a decade and all we got out of it was Fiji, Mexico and Chilean Antarctica. People gave you devs years before the sentiment completely soured on everything you were doing (mostly shitposting in your devcord).
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>>2347705
You actually, unironically think TNOdevs remove and rework content because of "jealousy"? Wild.
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>>2347708
Picrel is literally a former Russia lead seething about the fact that no one gives a shit about any of the things he's made but like the things he wanted to rework while he was lead and greenlit Komi's rework, starting with Serov.
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>>2347617
>TNO is garbage lol
>Rofl stop playing TNO it sucks dick
>Fuck TNO
>Stop playing TNO and try out this new awesome mod, TFR it's so cool lmao you can be a chud and it's sweet
>Go TFR go
>Yea come on dude
>Stfu and stop harassing us and just play TFR and stop playing TNO
>TFR is so cool
>Wow TFR is based
>Fuck TNO it sucks
I say this.
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>>2347709
>>2347705
>taking a cherrypicked quote
Read through his xeets. He doesn't even know what he wants. One moment he's half-supporting TNO, the other moment he's seething about it, and the next moment he's wishing everyone could still be his friends. He's a lonely guy talking to the void, and TNOhaters decided a xeet he made was a "le epic pwn" on the current TNOdevs and decided to use it as ammunition that they constantly post in TNOhate arguments/threads. It is not some authority on the subject.
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>>2347719
Him blurting out unrelated shit over the course of several years doesn't exactly negate the fact that himself and others dislike the old content, which he says at several times even in your own screenshot though he obviously tries to cushion it by, say, pretending that their OTLism will be bold and innovative.
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>>2347720
Again, he's not authority. When you have a collaborative effort on a project, and leadership changes, so too does the direction of the project. Atlantropa was never going to remain. The three stooges Nazi boogeymen in Africa weren't going to remain, either. They're too comical, and frankly the TNOdevs are ballsy to get rid of it once and for all despite the problems it causes to the narrative and the unrealistic nature it has to the overall feel of the mod.
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>>2347722
>TNOdevs are ballsy to remove anything interesting the mod might've ever had
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>>2347722
Yeah, and how did that work out for you and your friends? Spoilers you went radio silent in your Mangobunker for a week and when your internal roundtables leaked it revealed that you were doing damage control and dealing with poor morale.
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>>2347722
They could've... I don't know... worked on Africa without throwing the baby out with the bathwater and implementing a 'submod' (made by friends of the devs) that just changes Africa into the most boring possible OTL parallelisms you've ever seen, breaking the lore of many other tags in the process. For the sake of SKELETON CONTENT.
I mean, look at this shit.
Imagine replacing the existential struggle of militant pan-Africanists fighting to unite West Africa, against the Free French, who are literally fighting to survive with a zero-stakes border conflict.
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>>2347722
TNO peaked with Guangdong, which was after Atlantropa was removed. There was still potential for Africa was it was, even with the Congo Lake, which is actually physically plausible unlike Atlantropa. All removed for the sake of historical post-colonial politics in a world where the Axis powers won WW2.
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>>2347733
Not only that but it makes no use of the setting either. I think that's what people hate the most about a lot of this OTList garbage. People wanted an Axis history mod and explore what that might entail. It'd be like if Kaiserreich threw away all monarchies and syndies in their world and turned it into a generic fascism VS communism struggle, and then for good measure had the Entente be a democracy only club instead of a free-for-all revenge party.
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Eawcord looking spicy these days
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>>2347733
>>2347735
At its best, TNO tells stories that are about the following:
>bureaucratic decay
>moral compromise
>systemic oppression
>ideological exhaustion
>slow reform vs violent collapse
etc. The old proxy war in South Africa was "cool" but leaned too heavily into Axis insanity. It clashes heavily with the tone that TNO is going toward: late-stage empire rot, not Saturday morning cartoons/boogeymen.
>Imagine replacing the existential struggle of militant pan-Africanists fighting to unite West Africa, against the Free French, who are literally fighting to survive with a zero-stakes border conflict.
Existential struggles don't require a big spectacle battle. You can still have that, or something similar to it. Or there'll be stories that are more interesting. Old Africa was...
>imagine Vietnam
>but nazis
>and three nazis
>and french vs natives
Now it's something more interesting; the new content serves to help create/bolster thematic throughlines, which btw is acknowledged in one of the xeets here >>2347719.
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>spicy
>just 1 faggot that's upset over not being able to understand 1 new country specific mechanic
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>we want more guangdong quality stuff that genuinely explores the setting
>NUH UH YOU WANT POOPENFARTEN AND LE FUNNY KILLPEOPLEISM
>LOOK YOU CAN NUKE HAITI AS WALLACE OR GOLDWATER ARE YOU HAPPY NOW
>FREE FRANCE WILL EXIST IN A GUI WHEN DV COMES OUT IN 10 YEARS ARE YOU HAPPY NOW
TNO devs are so insulated from everyone else in their echo chamber that they're comedically out of touch.
>>2347742
You can't even explain what these more interesting stories will be because they don't fucking exist. All you do is spew vaguely intelligent sounding word garbage in hopes to try and befuddle the absolutely tiny amount of people in this thread who don't hate what the nudevs have done to TNO.
Yeah, TNO is about bureaucratic rot. Because that's what the developer team is. Suffering from its own bureaucracy, unable to push out a fucking compatibility update for the latest version of HoI4.
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>>2347742
You're so far up your own ass it's unreal. It only clashes with the "tone of the mod" because you decided to rework everything from scratch. It clashes with your new PLANNED content just like it feels completely out of place in the mod you people decided to ruin.
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>we need 1-1 otl apartheid south africa because, uh
>we also need decolonisation to happen roughly the same way it did in real life which necessitates a crippled and occupied france holding onto its colonies till the 60s via the power of plot armour
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>>2347742
are you using chatgpt to generate bait
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>winners of WW2 don't get any colonies in Africa from the losers
>in fact, nobody gets any colonies in Africa. The countries release themselves somehow
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>>2347754
>ChatGPT, generate a post on 4chan defending this mod that's sure to be completely antithetical to what's popular on the board while also appearing completely out of touch
>OK, that's good, now reformulate it so that I sound really pretentious
>Remove any instances to referring to gameplay
>Bingo!
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>>2347749
>>2347751
Like I said, let the TNO devs cook. It would help things go a lot smoother/faster if you simply accepted that things are changing and stopped trying to actively disrupt/obstruct progress of TNO's development. The constant raids might be annoying, but TNO as a project is far stronger than some 4chan raid of a group of TNOhaters. Honestly, I think it's at a point where the TNOhaters by-and-large won't accept anything the TNOdevs release, but I think there's enough of you that still can be won over.
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>constant raids
the only raid that has happened in the past few years is a TNO tranny coming here to defend xer mod
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>>2347762
Really? You don't think people infiltrating the TNOdev community and the Discord/Reddit to sow seeds of hate against the mod, and the constant propaganda/indoctrination of anyone who might find the /vst/ HOI4 Modding community/that obsessive TNO thread, constitute as a raid? If anyone new to the mod comes to 4chan and looks around for discussion of TNO, they'll see just constant hate and slander and immediately be turned off. There was once a collection of devs that came from 4chan; if you ask around the HOI4 modding community how many devs have visited 4chan before, probably at least half if not most would say they have. Poisoning the well hurts not only the progress of TNO but also recruitment of future devs. Like I said though, it might hurt things by 5-10%, but TNO ultimately is a lot stronger than some people give it credit.
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>>2347761
Nah, we're going to keep call you and your fellow devs retarded for trying to remove all wars from a war game, as will most of the Internet that still cares about you. Almost no one here even plays your shitty mod any more. Why would we? You removed all wars from the wargame we like!
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>>2347763
>Make unpopular decisions
>Mod becomes less popular
>People make their unhappiness with the current direction known
>"INFILTRATORS AND PROPAGANDISTS SPREADING LIES!"
This is why TNO will never be good again.
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>>2347763
>people infiltrating the TNOdev community and the Discord/Reddit to sow seeds of hate
when has this happened in the last few years?
>If anyone new to the mod comes to 4chan and looks around for discussion of TNO, they'll see just constant hate and slander and immediately be turned off
so? make your own TNO positive vibes only thread then
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>>2347752
>>2347755
>we need three stooges in Africa
We can play this game 'round and 'round, but ultimately it comes down to vision, and it's not your vision in charge but the TNOdevs' vision. If they fumble and drop and 10 years from now we're looking at things and thinking yeah, it could have gone better, then okay. But give them time.
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>>2347766
Leaks and conversations from the TNOdev channels constantly get stolen and posted in the hate thread and sometimes here.
>so? make your own TNO positive vibes only thread then
It would immediately get swarmed by haters and le contrarianists.
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>>2347768
>I can't have a safe space anywhere that allows for free speech
Funny how every other mod except yours can achieve this. Almost as if you and you uniquely did something to garner a lot of resentment, don't you think?
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>>2347768
>leaks from former and current devs
what do you think is more likely?
>they infiltrated the dev team just to post leaks
or
>they got frustrated with something and this is one of the places they can freely post
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>>2347761
They've had close to a decade to cook. Nothing has happened since then, other than them removing content and adding nothing in return.

>>2347767
>three stooges in Africa
They were original and interesting. Same with Atlantropa and the Chad Lake.

>TNOdevs' vision
Namely, railroaded sanctimonious OTL boring bullshit with no gameplay.
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>>2347767
>Give me time to keep doing these wildly unpopular changes!
>Trust me, if you just let me finish my second five year plan of Antarctica content it'll be good!
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>>2347771
DV is not even the TNO team's vision, it's a dumb submod that people have called out for years
they already said it will release with skeleton content only as well
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We need Wagner Africa content so we can have a rival PMCs war between Wagner and Green Mountain Company.
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>>2347773
Removing the GCWs and replacing them with minigames, however, IS the TNOdevs' vision.
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>>2347776
Wagner VS GMC global corpo-PMC war in the shadows for the world's dwindling resources sounds like such a kino timeline.
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>>2347773
It kinda is though since it was only implemented post-hijack because lol nepotism.
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>>2347779
>Wagner fights with never ending hordes of Africans
>GMC fights with very limited numbers of Metal Gears and Gundams
Part of me thinks they should cut the Gundams from GMC and give them to a future Asia tag. Does anyone have the song that was posted alongside the Mech art? I remember it being good but I can't remember the name of the song, I think it was in a Metal Gear game before.
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DV has been in-dev for almost 3 years with a dedicated dev team.
It's integration will setback many major countries like Germany, Italy and USA to account for the new lore.
Is it really worth it?
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>>2347782
Not nepotism. That the devs adopted the idea doesn't make it nepotism; to prove nepotism, you need to prove that the devs wouldn't have adopted the idea but-for the relationship between them and the devs of DV. You can't prove that, because it's not true.
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>>2347788
Yes, but ultimately we'll all see. Just like we'll see if 1.1 ever gets released, yeah?
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>>2347722
If they were always meant to be removed, how come you were claiming the opposite on your dev server back in 2024?

I notice a trend with you TNO devs and claiming that something you know is obviously unpopular is never happening and then when you eventually ram it through anyway you claim it was inevitable and that there's no going back. Every single time.
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>>2347787
>GMC Metal Gears and a few western operators on the ground
>Wagner hordes of bought native militias with a few Russian advisors
>Capital just sending Gundams against both
This is the best MGS4 sequel ever holy shit
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>immediate "WHAT ABOUT TFR"
Italy has been in development longer than it took for TFR to go from conceptual stage to release.
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>>2347789
>They just decided to integrate a massively disruptive and widely disliked submod out of the goodness of their hearts because they liked it
vs
>Dev's a member of the lead's clique so his project was allowed to steamroll anything else after Mango took over the mod
Gee, I wonder which sounds the most likely when dealing with a group of terminally online people on Discord.
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>>2347793
>>GMC Metal Gears and a few western operators on the ground
I look forward to destabilizing third world nations for gold.
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>>2347796
>widely disliked
>[citation needed]
It's an extensive addition to the mod, whether you like it or not.
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>>2347773
It's a submod they constantly denied would be integrated until they suddenly did a complete 180.
Switching from saying DV would never be integrated because it would break the lore of multiple countries and necessitate even more reworks, as well as being uninspired as hell to glazing DV, claiming that it's totally unique and not 'Wow, I cant believe its not OTL!' and that Calph is such a smart and sexy person feels literally Orwellian.
I know the term is overused, but it gives off we have always been at war with Eurasia, Eastasia is our doubleplus plusgood ally, to we have always been at war with Eastasia, Eurasia is our doubleplus plusgood ally vibes.
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I just noticed the Vanguard of the Wild guy is wielding a pipe gun from Fallout 4.
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>>2347804
>It's a submod they constantly denied would be integrated until they suddenly did a complete 180.
Why do you keep lying about this? There was a post made in 2024 about how they weren't aware of any intention to integrate DV. The announcement of integration was made in summer of 2025. There is a lot of time between those two dates for the dev team to have changed their mind about integration. There wasn't a "sudden complete 180."
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>>2347802
See: >>2347764
The response to you doing this was overwhelmingly negative and the HOI4 Reddit clowned on your for a full month.
>It may be shit, but there's a lot of it!
It isn't really, it's all skeletons on release, lol. It's a literal downgrade in terms of playable content.

>>2347811
>Pipe gun
Kino. It'd be neat if you were given unique techs to fully embrace the anprim LARP.
>Pipe guns
>Bows
>IEDs
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>>2347812
Nice try doing damage control TNO dev but we have evidence of you people lying about this in 2025 too. Guess that doesn't count either?
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>>2347812
>yeah bro there was only one post bro
Why the fuck do you lie like this? In such a brazen way?
Like claiming DV wasn't widely disliked. Outside of places you can control like the TNO subreddit and the discord, the response to the announcement was universally negative. Because it turns out transplanting OTL Africa into an axis victory timeline doesn't make any fucking sense, especially when you're cutting content to replace it with skeleton shit, as well as ruining literally every other country that interacts with Africa's lore, especially France and Britain, considering the loss of their colonial empires being big parts of their lore prior to DV fucking everything over just so you can have a bunch of GUI minigames and zero stakes border conflicts in Africa, and how you can claim that you're a Very Smart Boy with a Degree in Truth for knowing this random obscure trivia about Africa.
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>>2347815
>Kino. It'd be neat if you were given unique techs to fully embrace the anprim LARP.
That would be sick, I also hope their production debuffs are horrible so the only real way to get new equipment is by buying it off the black market or some kinda unique mechanic where destroying factories/infrastructure/buildings either straight up gives you equipment or a resource you can use in decisions to turn into equipment. Hopefully they also synergize well with the guerilla warfare doctrine tree since you never really use that outside of playing as AWD.
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>>2347816
Mestrecker isn't a dev anymore. He actually has deleted his Reddit account, too. Probably is a TNOhater these days. I wouldn't believe anything he says/said.
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>>2347818
The loudest voices are the most negative. Just because a few (and yes, they were a few) oldguard who hadn't played TNO in years heard about the change and decided to Get Mad About It doesn't mean the overall feedback was negative. The TNO player who finds TNO in the mod list after buying HOI4 on sale and tries it out and falls in love with DV will inevitably prove you wrong.
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Also, it's not OTL Africa. You might argue it's more similar to OTL Africa than it is to the cartoony stuff that was in the mod previously, but it's not OTL. There are differences.
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>>2347821
>He hates us now and isn't a dev after DV fucked him over
>Therefore, anything he said before we alienated him doesn't count
lmao

>>2347822
Nah nigga well over 95% of the responses to your reveal Tweet were negative or just making fun of you, don't even fucking try.
>People who bought a wargame expecting a wargame will fall in love with our content that has no wars or gameplay
lmao
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The damage control shilling of this devnigger is just off the fucking charts.
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>>2347826
If you ever played TNO for the "HOI4-style wars" then you're a liar, because it never had those outside some very brief wars that weren't very fun.
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>>2347830
>GCW
>SAW
>All the Russian unification wars
There were plenty of them in TNO and they did a good job supplementing the political content. By throwing out all the interesting conflicts bit by bit and making it nothing but a shitty VN the mod has heavily degraded.
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>>2347834
Two. You've named two wars. Both of which didn't last very long. SAW was just sending 5-6 intervention units and encircling enemies all day for a year. GCW was, what, a year of war? Good riddance to both. They weren't very fun.
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>>2347824
>it's not otl the borders are slightly different
DV's alt history is so maudlin and uninspired that it passes for OTL. That should alarm you, the fact that the most common criticism, aside from you gouging out content to replace it with Denmark GUIs, is that it's OTL.
>>2347830
People play TNO because the setting is interesting. You people seem determined to remove everything interesting from the setting. America's planned content is just ridiculous libwank, where several Republican presidents can flip fascist because Drumpf and Nixon (the latter was out of office before Mango was even born btw) mindbroke Mango.
Africa is just by the numbers and comedically boring borderline OTL wikiscrape shit. The most effort they put towards changing Africa to TNOTL is using ctrl+f for the USSR whenever it was involved in Africa and replacing it with Japan. Now, pre-DV TNO Africa was also guilty of this, but there were also enough differences that nobody bothered to call it OTList.
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>>2347839
People like different things. I think DV is interesting and agree that it makes more sense with the direction TNO is headed. It's called subjectivity. You're not in charge. You can't make the decision. So we let those who are in charge carry out their vision and see how it looks. What we don't do is throw tantrums for years(!) across two /vst/ threads, constantly creating TNOhate threads.
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>>2347835
Why do you even work on a mod if you hate all the original content, don't want to engage in any of the gameplay for the game you're modding for and have to do absurd damage control campaigns every time you go outside your hugbox? I will never understand why you people are like but it's made you the laughingstock of the rest of the community.
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>>2347843
>You're not in charge
>You can't make the decision
>Just deal with it
Nah, we'll keep calling you and your dying mod dumb every time you venture outside your Discord server.
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>>2347839
Forgot Germany's plot armour and how it interacts with portions of the world claimed by other powerful members of the dev clique.
Germany can instantly defeat Britain if it tries to rebel, but Sweden can perform nuclear tests, harbor terrorists and fund insurgents that fight Germany despite being surrounded by Pakt nations, and the worst the Germans do is shoot the PM if he happens to be Jewish.
Germany can't do anything in DV!Africa despite being this supposedly unstoppable juggernaut.
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>>2347850
Someone claimed in TNO general that they'll apparently be able to be all-powerful against Russia too with Gorky (allegedly) being nuked after Hitler dies for daring to raid Moskowien. I also think Italy is a better example of the rework hell since they're going to have their enmity with Germany fully removed to preserve the plot armor.
>5 years of reworking
>No Red Italy, friendly rivalry with Germany
Bleak.
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>>2347844
There are lots of things to like about TNO than the two wars minor wars it had..
>>2347847
You seem like you're desperate to feel a sense of control. You want it one way, when it's the other way, and you can't stand that and feel this need to lash out at others.
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>>2347857
lmao retard, we can actually have it our way these days. If I want to play TNO again I'll just boot up RA and have fun with that for a few hours.
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>>2347864
>we
And, no one wants imitation crab. It leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.
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>>2347868
It beats having no crab at all
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>>2347857
>There are lots of things to like about TNO than the two wars minor wars it had.
And you fuckers want to remove it all. It isn't just about the wars, it's a perfect storm of shit, compounded by the fact the reworks are stuck in dev hell.
TNO has pissed away every ounce of goodwill outside of its sycophantic discord of yesmen, and that's the reason people like you have to come here and run damage control, blaming TFR for people hating TNO when the only reason there's a perceived hate for TNO (actually hate for the devs who murdered TNO and decided to wear it as a skinsuit for their own story about OTL decolonization movements, German invincibility and how Republicans and Dixiecrats are actually worse than the Nazis, look how they nuke poor Haiti, a country the US could defeat in a conventional war in a matter of hours) is the fucking TNO dev team itself's combination of incompetence and contempt for their audience they inherited from Panzer, the one thing from early TNO they don't want to rework away.
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>>2347868
>Imitation
>It's literally the original recipe with Atlantropa and all
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THIS you fucking retards is why we have a containment thread for tno, just ignore him.
>>2347793
If they add toned down gundams like Jaegers to the capital japan path it will be so kino.
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>>2347893
He refused to go back to his containment thread and just kept shitting up the thread for a week. If you scroll up you can see it's because he thinks it's a hate thread and simply refuses to acknowledge that the mod isn't popular here. It'd quite baffling.
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I'm really surprised there isnt a proper long-running Command and Conquer mod. Like, all 3 C&C setting would work very well for HOI4. In particular Red Alert 3 would be really cool because of the 3 factions.
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>>2347902
I'd love a Red Alert one. Any of them, really.
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>>2347893
Pretty sure if you turn on the April fool's mode then Japan can get gundams and pokemon as units.
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TFR should have a second Space Race to return to the Moon, which leads into a Moon war where moon marines of different nationalities fight over who gets to annex the Moon and its resources, and getting a tremendous head start on the path to Mars.
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>>2347934
>moon resources
Anon... its the moon.
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>>2347934
The moon has fuckall resources but I still think it'd be fun. Instead of having it be about resources on the moon itself, have it be securing the possibility to create space-based industrial platforms that basically just let you pay a premium to get offmap factories that are immune to bombings and other restrictions.

You know what is relevant to resource access though? The Arctics. You could use balance of power or something to represent the battle for Antarctica with the victor gaining access to underwater energy resources. TFR condenses its timeline so I think that could work with these resources actually being exploited ahead of 2EW, again for off-map resources. Also it could be kino like the KZ3 aesthetics.
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>>2347947
>Russia and NATO battling each other over rigs in the arctic using jetpack troops with Jin Roh looks to deal with the climate
There is indeed kino potential here.
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>>2347940
>>2347947
The moon most likely has meteorites aplenty. Some of those have to be valuable.
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The KR music team did not have to go this hard.
https://youtu.be/AL2fZjbEZB0
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People will hate and vilify DV and shit themselves whilst screaming in rage as they bounce from thread to thread in never ending TNOhate, but they'll cheer on gundams, jetpack infantry, AI Biden, etc. Sad to see, honestly.
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>Thee TNO dev is posting AI slop bait again
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I more or less figured out how to navy. I want naval battles!
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>>2348123
>KC
AL is better.
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>>2347948
>kaisercat
damn they've made a nice loophole to make money while modding at the side without triggering Johan's ire
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>>2347826
>sorry panzer but rhodesians never die
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>>2348123
Share your wisdom.
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>>2348082
Yeah?
Because TNO had out there elements too.
See: the Sun Gun, Glenn gearing the American economy towards putting a man on Mars to spite the Nazis, Indiana Josias, etc.
People will always think of that, just like how they'll think of the Ural and South African War demos, the latter of which are part of the the reason TNO got popular in the first place.
But you wouldn't know that. You're a newfag.
You only arrived after those faggots Mango and Lamounier and their buttbuddies hijacked the mod by voting for themselves in discord elections, and then abolishing elections.
Hell, why are TNO's internal politics more interesting than the politics they want to depict in their mod?
>Systemic slow burn purges
>Exclusively hire/promoting their friends
>Ran a spoiler candidate in the form of Corn to cuck Bassist
>Won
>Night of the Long Reworks to calcify the leadership for more than a year
>Stopped having elections because Mango is democracy manifest
All this over a HOI4 mod. But if you pitched that idea to them in relation to an actual position of power they'd all give you a lecture about realism in politics.
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>>2348249
>Hell, why are TNO's internal politics more interesting than the politics they want to depict in their mod?
They aren't. They're just interesting to people obsessed with TNOhate. It's simply a story of one devteam leaving and another taking its place and working on the mod, refining it to have a cohesive vision rather than being all over the place like an amateurish project. People are all nostalgic about the amateur slop they played when the mod first came out, but what draws people into the mod is the setting (Hitler won WW2, not Atlantropa/nazi Africa...), the economics, and the politics, not cartoons.
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>>2348123
>I want naval battles!
Well too bad, the AI sucks and it's piss easy to win them so there's no way to properly enjoy them. I think the AI still doesn't try to research naval techs or make ships with new components?
>>2348124
For jacking off, sure.
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Oh boy, the TNO janny woke up again and is shitting out more AI slop.

>>2348258
>It's simply a story of one devteam leaving and another taking its place
Yeah, we know that you and your friends are a parasitic infestation that hijacked a successful mod to turn it into your own garbage. And yes, a successful mod being hijacked by a bunch of talentless losers that proceeded to drive the entire project into the ground is more interesting than Chilean Antarctica, agricultural reforms in Mexico and minor border skirmishes in otl Africa.
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>>2348263
>hijacked
>talentless
>losers
>drive the entire project into the ground
>[citations needed]
Petty insults mean nothing, you realize? They are non-arguments.
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You haven't put out any real content since Guangdong, fuck off.
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>>2348271
Not true.
>"content" must conform to my specific heightened standards so as to bash TNO
TFR hasn't put out any real content since release. See? We both can play this game.
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>>2348271
Hey! TNO has integrated a submod and made 4 year demos!
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>>2348275
Yeah shit like Antarctica and Mexico demos are don't count as real content especially when that's the entirety of your output. If you'd put out content for Russia or Italy or something else people actually want to play and looked forward to they wouldn't say that you haven't put out anything since your clique took over the mod. People don't say that about KR, KX, EaW, OWB or any of the other big mods because they put out real, playable updates. You're the ones that release short demos for uninhabited wastelands and third world tags without conflicts and you're the only people receiving these complaints. Get a hint already.
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>>2348282
That you don't enjoy Antarctica/Mexico is fine. You can enjoy other things. I understand that. You, however, don't seem to understand that other people can enjoy Antarctica/Mexico. You seem to think that it's somehow not fine for people to enjoy Antarctica/Mexico. Your argument is an emotional appeal to subjectivity. "Antarctica is not content" is just showing your bias. It is content. Maybe it's not the content you like. That's fine. How about you go play elsewhere and let the people who do enjoy this content have fun with it, okay?
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>>2348291
We do play different mods you retard. No one here plays TNO any more after you did your full genre change away from being a wargame. YOU are the one insisting, on a strategy board, that we should read your VN and get mad when we tell you that we'd rather play TFR, KX or something else. You know, the things people actually get hyped for on this board?
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>>2348293
No, I'm insisting you stop obsessively post about it with TNOhate and try to discourage anyone from positively speaking about it, and bullying anyone who comes by to try it out. If you don't like it, don't post about it.
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wrong thread thoughbeit, but TFR loves rent free in your head
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>>2348296
Oh my God you fucking moron people shit on your mod because you not only stopped making the content people actually wanted but started to actively delete it. If you want people to stop hating you then stop shilling and actually add a new Russian unifier or something. If you really want the discourse around your mod to be more positive, actually give people a reason to be positive like ALL other major mods do except for you.
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>>2348258
Oh my god. You talk so much but say so fucking little. It's just empty words. Bloviation about how fucking smart and cool you are for liking the wikiscrape slop the Current Standards Realism team... I can't even say pumps out, because THEY HAVEN'T PUSHED AN UPDATE THAT WASN'T A CANNIBALISED SUBMOD FOR YEARS.
The Latin America team were submodders. The Antarctica team were submodders. They're the only people who have gotten anything done since fucking Guangdong, because Mango and Co are too busy reworking their reworks.
See:
>Lamounier having all wars in Europe removed to preserve German plot armor
>Mango replacing entire routes in America over personal politics and election butthurt
Both, years after the Germany and US reworks started.
But no, please go on about how we totally HATE TNO and not just the fuckers who killed and hijacked it so they could release demos at a snail's pace while removing the content that got people into TNO in the first place, pandering to pseudo-intellectuals like yourself, who are an absolutely tiny minority among the people who play HoI4 and its mods.
FUCKING SUZERAIN does politics better than nuTNO, because even if Suzerain's world is extremely derivative of our own in several ways, the people of Torpor Games aren't constrained by the wikiscraping phenomenon TNO's developer clique suffers from.
>Look at a previous dev's work
>Open up Wikipedia to skim a person's article
>Smugly declare that they act differently than they did IRL
>Doesn't understand that Germany winning WW2 might force people to adapt to this new reality
>Rework justified
I see this all the time from these people and it's just the laziest, most creatively bankrupt approach to alt history imaginable.
I want to like nuTNO. I really do. But they've both alienated the audience that got them big in the first place and release content at such a glacial pace despite it being the most creatively bankrupt shit I've ever seen. CHARACTER LIMIT.
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>>2348258
>Admit to replacing all the devs that made the content that made the mod popular with your own people
>Admit to wanting to replace all the content people liked with something completely different
>Still can't figure out why people hate his mod and think it's all some unprovoked conspiracy against them
Least insulated TNO janny.
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>>2348296
NIGGER
YOU WERE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP TNO IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH YOUR AI GENERATED SLOP PICTURES
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>>2348305
Calm down, Idea Guy. If he pisses you off just remember that he's a TNO dev and that he can't show his face outside of his devcord without being laughed at.
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>>2348309
I'm not even the idea nigger, I'm just angry, angry about this fucker pretending to be a victim.
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>>2348317
Fair enough, I mistook you for him because he flies off the handle a lot.
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Can someone repost the images summarizing all 1.1 TFR content? Thanks.
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>>2348074
i thought kaiser cat and kr devs are different people
i really like this menu theme from the older version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeWP1u0pzFA
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>>2348330
They are different people and afaik Vincent isn't on the team actual team.
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>>2348323
Only change is they could all potentially have unique post war content on release, but I hope not. I'd rather get the update sooner with only some of the paths having unique post war content on release than wait longer for all of them to have unique post war content on release.
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>>2348348
wonder what GMC post war will look like
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>>2348352
Doing mercenary shit in foreign countries with mechs for cash. I wonder Boogaloo post war content is going to look like?
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>>2348348
Thanks a lot!

>>2348352
MGS4.
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>>2338263
>Do you like hurting economists?
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>>2348383
No confirmation, but this is probably for the VOTW?
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>>2348385
God I hope uncle Ted's path let's me turn back the clock a thousand years on these fuckers
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>>2348385
Maybe Insurrectionary Anarchists?
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>>2348389
Oh yeah they have the same color scheme in their teaser right? I think the wording is similar too.
https://static.wikitide.net/thefireriseswikiwiki/8/88/Inssurectionary_anarchist_teaser.png
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>>2348392
Yeah the color scheme is similar to the Individualists, like you said the wording also comes across as very aggressive/hateful and nihilistic.
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>>2348239
Make big ship with big guns. Make lots of small ships with small guns. Make carrier with torpedo planes.
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>>2348259
>For jacking off
Maybe that's enough.
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>>2348400
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that the people paying premium prices for pngs of anime girls do indeed consider that a core selling point.
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>>2348392
>>2348393
Correct!
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>>2348408
>the people paying premium prices for pngs of anime girls
Oh, it's worse. They pay premium prices for the CHANCE of getting pngs of anime girls
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>>2348422
Another W, lads!
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>It is 1996, and the Cold War is officially over. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics managed to prevail over the United States of America, which dissolved in 1992. Now, the Soviets hold an iron grip on more than half of Europe and a third of the world. However, this fragile peace is only temporary. In London, the last bastion of democracy stands firm behind the global shield of the London Treaty Organization—a successor to the defunct North Atlantic Treaty Organization—, dedicated to containing the Red Menace. Meanwhile, a third force rises from the ashes of old oligarchic republics, the revolutionaries of the Commune of France and the People's Republic of Italy. As the tensions rise, the world teeters on the edge of a new, even more frantic and aggressive Second Cold War, emerging from the rotten corpse of the Soviet-American.
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>>2348354
>I wonder what Boogaloo post war content is going to look like?
Spreading the same model worldwide.
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>>2348453
Interesting. Look forward to see how that works out. Will it still be Putin in charge?

>>2348455
Red World attempt #2?
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>>2348456
No chud tag? Sad! Also what's going on with Hawaii here? Is it independent?
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>>2348456
>People's Socialist Republic of Amerika
>Amerika
Kek, I guess that's one way to further the cultural revolution.
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>>2348456
It's a bit uninspired to have so much of it just be splinters of the Republicans and such. Why fracture into a million pieces of so much of it's just going to be the old parties governing independent states? I guess though, since they have the same map color maybe they were going for how Austria and China work in KR. Legally one country, in practice it's more complicated.
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>>2348492
>It's a bit uninspired to have so much of it just be splinters of the Republicans and such
That's what I was thinking, maybe turn NYC into a full blown Lolbertarian utopia to spice things up a bit?
>I guess though, since they have the same map color maybe they were going for how Austria and China work in KR.
Possibly, given the Federation of American States doesn't really have a leader maybe they'll all break apart at some point in the mod and we'll see some diverse ideologies start popping up?
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>>2348494
If it's just the starting situation and I'm right about it being a way to convey more depth that's fine as long as they build upon it later.
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>>2348330
That specific song is in the music mod, no clue if they were the ones to actually make it or were just making a music video.
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I just come by to say we love TFR here
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>>2348309
Ain't me, but I get why he's hating. BTW, if the guy who made the fanmade path checklist is here, BH is now a unifier and the Hamiltonians are getting moved to a different faction (not ACG)
Source: (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1r67j5p/comment/o5q78lv/?context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1r84s7v/where_do_we_think_the_hamiltonians_will_be_moved/)
Also read >>2345655
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>>2348620
Do we have any more news on what that content from FMTW is actually supposed to play out? We haven't heard any news from them in a while and it's one of the mods I'm really hoping actually gets released.
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>>2348648
To be completely honest there's like a 50% chance it just completely dies and 30% chance is releases a demo before dying like XU.
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>>2348656
Nooooooo
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>>2348648
>Transphonic Order
I read that as Transphobic Order and was really confused.
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>>2348666
It's the faction referenced on the guy's shirt on the right.
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>>2348648
>We haven't heard any news from them in a while
Me when I'm not even on the hoi4 modding reddit

But yeah there has been progress lately, Central Asian warlord should be playable in demo release along side some american ones
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>>2348666
I also thought the same when seeing the toozer first time lol
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>>2348679
They give any indication as to when we can expect the demo to drop?
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>>2348679
That's awesome, hope they release it and that it's good. I expect it to be like Red Flood: Absolutely busted and completely fucking unplayable bum-ass broken premature release, but the concept is so interesting that it pulls through against the odds and becomes playable. Ideally it'll go better but eh, y'know, managed expectations.
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>>2348683
Possibly this year, if nothing bad happens

>>2348684
Since they purged Wandal/Skeletor from the admin things have looked pretty good
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>>2348702
Who's he and why were things bad under him?
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>>2348707
O thought he was know here
But basically Wandal is a serbian supremacist modder who goes around couping mods and turning them into killpeopleism slop
He did coup JD for a time for that matter, he was the guy who introduced Unruh and Panzram to the mod
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>>2348726
>who goes around couping mods
How the fuck does that even happen
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TFR literally is the same game played out over and over. There's really only three countries, given that ACW2 is the same no matter what country you play, EW1+2 is the same no matter what country you play, and Taiwan/GAW is the same no matter what country you play. And even then, the wars play largely the same in Europe and Asia.
>mass mechanized units with the same tired build over and over
>air superiority
>win
What about unique gameplay? What about a minigame in the middle of the war that decides which region falls to a faction?
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>>2348757
>What about a minigame in the middle of the war that decides which region falls to a faction?
They should just add a more scripted KR peacedeal system, ecpecially for the 2ew.
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got a new focus tree icon for my south africa submod for tfr, i think it's getting better? thoughts?
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>>2348757
>Minigames in the middle of a war
Not a fan, just have more of it be about map control maybe? Also they have something like that for Asia with you building up your alliance ahead of gaw. They should really flesh it out and make something similar for 2EW, and to a lesser extent 1EW. KR and especially KX are fun and have infinite replay value because of the many pre-war setups you can end up with. TFR can definitely learn from that. The war in Serbia actually mattering would be one thing off the top of my head.

>>2348808
They should add KRs system for letting you decide a country's fate once they're beaten. Puppet gov, balkanization, etc.

>>2348813
Stop.
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>>2348726
>But basically Wandal is a serbian supremacist modder who goes around couping mods and turning them into killpeopleism slop
All heroes don't wear capes...

>>2348731
larps and discord drama usually. Most mods are complete canceer because of both.
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>>2348831
You literally have all the files on your computer and if you created steam page and discord then you can do anything with them and there's no way anyone can take it away by force like irl
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>>2348885
Usually it's goofy shit like getting them to make you the head of the discord server or even some sort of autistic credentialism where you have the fanciest role. You only see it in small teams that are just glorified friend circles though, hardly ever in actual development teams. People often claim that TNO had this problem but really it was just a group of friends slowly just voting themselves into power as normal people slowly exit the team until they are the majority. If Mango and Lamounier had just randomly declared themselves the kings of the server they'd just get told to fuck off. Functional teams don't tolerate shit like claiming rights you don't have or overturning votes. I have no idea how some of these people can get so completely Discordbrained.
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Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes the leader of the Mexican Civil War tag Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación got acked.
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I just want a Medvedev Ultranationalist update so I can have my prophesied Third World War with a Cognoscenti US and an UltraLiberal EU. Alikhanov is good but something about the old order's clinging to life but radicalised with professional men in suits being the worst war criminals just appeals to me. Lean into the Modern Warfare/Black Ops flavour of TFR rather then the larping.
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>>2349020
>Modern Warfare/Black Ops flavour of TFR
Shame it's not possible for Makarov Navalny to fight Schwab EU.
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>>2349020
>Navalny does No Russian
>NATO (Cognoscenti/WEF by proximity) gets blamed
>Medvedev invades the EU
That timeline would be amazing.
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>>2348757
This is a war simulator game xir, leave your autistic mechanics to discord RP servers
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>>2349018
Came here to say this, the fire is spreading.
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>>2349068
nayrt but having say 2EW always play out along a fairly fixed style with the same participants often being railroaded in is lame. I prefer the KX approach where a lot of it's up to chance and 2WK can play out with its core players, but with all supporting tags varying greatly from playthrough to playthrough. Once you've seen one of these wars you've seen them all. At least 2ACW will be helped out a lot in this regard whenever 1.1 drops since it'll shake up the regional unifiers at least.
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>>2348624
I couldn't add the leader portraits, but I added the ideologies (some are missing due to not being shown yet or being released as a png).

I added in the backgrounds, I'm not sure if its quite what you meant but hopefully it isn't a complete eyesore.

Anyways, enjoy the updated image.
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>>2349118
Very nice work lad.
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>>2349089
Idea guy here, just checked /ptg/, guess the Cartel Wars are starting earlier than expected.
>Iran: soon to be invaded
>Mexico: collapsing
>Hyperstition: locally breached the noosphere
>N.E.H trannies: on suicide watch
Yep, it's accelerationism time. Better get a flight ticket to Switzerland and start learning Russian just in case.
>>2349118
Yeah this will do quite nicely, I meant to take all the banners from the faction descriptions (see picrel for SOL) and put them as background for each path, but your interpretation's not that bad. What about the other part? Will you add the shit that wasn't added in 1.0.8 now that the devs confirmed the leak?
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>>2349144
I tried putting images for every path but I felt it looked ugly, so I just decided to use 1 image per faction.

>Will you add the shit that wasn't added in 1.0.8 now that the devs confirmed the leak?

I saw. I don't think I'll update that other image though. I'm really not proud of it and its already pretty tedious updating this 1.1 checklist.
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>Faggots are now once again polluting the space with tfr nonsense
I genuinely hope something bad happens to you. This place was once interesting, there were things happening. Now it's a barren wasteland of empty shills sucking eachothers anuses in a human centipede. Into the hide you go
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>Being this mad because no one wants to talk about your dead mod
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>>2349174
>I tried putting images for every path but I felt it looked ugly
I'll be the judge of that, post it anyway.
>I don't think I'll update that other image though. I'm really not proud of it
Why?
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>>2349118
Damn, where'd you get the AoF ideology icons from?
Also, dunno if it's too low quality but you could grab the icon from this for the UN stuff?
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>>2347934
When are we getting Agartha and Hyperborea expeditions for the Pact of Steel?
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>>2338263
>we're going to turn so many third worlders into mush you don't even know
https://files.catbox.moe/ld3vdn.mp4
Lawyers, Guns, and Moneybros, it's never looked better!
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>>2349242
mockup or actual paid toozer?
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>>2349242
>>2349274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOkCO_iXYcQ
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>>2349274
It's real.
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>>2349242
So fucking kino.
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>>2349118
>>2349144
>>2349242
Ok I have a question. Do we know if the AoF factions (GMC, GMA, etc) have any leaders/routes besides the starting ones?
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>>2349179
Release an update for your mod if you want people to discuss things that aren't TNO. A substantial one. Not just adding skeleton content to random third world countries.
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>>2349118
whats a realistic timeframe for 1.1?
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>>2349403
Summer of love.
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>>2349395
>aren't TNO
*aren't TFR, I had a brainfart
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>>2349230
They put the AOF ideology icons on a bunch of reddit flairs, I got them from there.
I cropped out the UN icon, its on the list now.

>>2349213
I hope this is what you meant. I used a different method this time, its not as ugly as my first attempt.
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>>2349436
nayrt but I think this one >>2349118 is better because it's a lot more readable. You have one background with a consistent color theme and that's easy on the eyes and makes it easy to reac both the text as well as which faction is being relevant. The very rapid change in backgrounds makes it harder to read and turns it into more of a cluttered mess.

Not a huge deal it's not like it's completely unreadable but it is a downgrade imo.
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>>2347871
>the one thing from early TNO they don't want to rework away
Damn.
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>>2349436
Exactly what I meant, it's art. I kneel.
>>2349443
Gotta agree with you though, >>2349118 is easier on the eyes.
>>2349242
>it's real
TFRYANS CAN'T FUCKING STOP WINNING.
HAIL OUR GOD NOVO.
HAIL THE TFR HYPERSTITION.
SIEG FUCKING HEIL.
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>>2349242
why are merc paths so kino bros?
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>it's another episode of the TFR reddit mod leaking shit/talking with authority about TFR
it's all so tiresome..
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>>2349242

HOLY FUCKING KINO
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>>2349403
2026 Q2-Q3, expect July 4th to be the release date.
Expect some small delays due to all the happenings in the world as the hyperstition starts breaching the noosphere in multiple places, ev&oe this won't stop the development process one bit.
>>2349493
Because being a merc was shown as the most testosterone-laden job on earth. Also Metal Gear Solid.
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>>2349505
Is it really shit-talking to admit that the 1.0 release was rushed and full of errors? It's just him saying that they'll do right by the movement down the line instead of having the NRx crowd be represented as being part of the PF paleocon crowd.
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The Half-Life mod updated
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>>2349505
>Getting info about future plans for the mod is tiresome
What?
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>>2349276
Flashbang seeing that animation again. I like that Channel Awesome is included in the media section.
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>>2349522
>tfr is now a "movement"
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>>2349556
I think the movement he's referring to is the NRx crowd.
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>>2349556
NRx is an actual political movement in real life. It's currently represented in PF by having it's people there but very little of its nuances and politics are. The statement you're replying to does not refer to TFR as a movement.
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>>2349505
>complaining about receiving more information about 1.1
NGMI
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>>2349559
>>2349577
If you read between the lines, it does.
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>AI slop
oh hi idea gal
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>>2349584
>If I misinterpret the point on purpose I can win inside my own head

>>2349588
Isn't the TNO janny the AI slopper?
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>when the Movement hears of TNO
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>>2349603
mfw I keep blaming TFR for the self inflicted wounds TNO keeps amassing
Release content of equal value to the shit you're removing. That's all it takes. But instead, all you do is keep releasing demos for either irrelevant third world countries or literal uninhabitable wastelands like Antarctica.
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>>2349617
He'll never get it. Don't even bother.
The worst part is that if him and his friends had worked on a TCT spin-off or done their own thing some other way they wouldn't be getting a fraction of the hate they get. At no level did it ever occur to them that removing content people liked and occasionally replacing it with wildly unpopular slop is the reason why they're so despised by the community.
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>>2349527
What new things did they add?
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>>2349395
There's little to no correlation between the updates and the amount of shilling. It's all marketing and discord astroturfing. It's been two years and you are still regurtitating the same things and every update that came out since release is shallow as a puddle
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>>2349655
qhar
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>>2349655
The shilling correlates with how bored their janny is.
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>>2349617
antarctica shit is actually cool and in line with what tno should have been
no wonder it was done by a different submod team instead of the nu-tno devs
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>This
>Fun
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>it says TNO updated
>No change log posted on Reddit
Did they actually update or is it just a cope because people kept buckbreaking them for not updating since November?
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>>2349513
>expect July 4th to be the release date
I really really doubt this, devs said that 1.1 is sometime this year, but before GTA 6's release date (November 19th as of me typing this).
I personally think a more reasonable goal is sometime between end of summer and start of autumn
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>>2349878
MIDTERM MANIA
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>>2349878
July 4 is a reasonable guess, if the devs decide to skimp out on finishing post-war content
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>>2349878
Not now. Not after the discord vote of delaying 1.1 until it has post-war content completed (which btw was a fake vote so the devs could delay 1.1 and argue the community voted for it).
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>>2349912
Meds, now.
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>>2349926
Why even have the vote? There's no point in having a vote unless they can later use the vote to their benefit. They even worded it in a way that they knew a vast majority would vote yes for it.
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>>2349912
>>2349931
Oh my God are you still concern trolling about this you fucking retard?
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Russia, for all of its routes, seems the most boring. There's nothing new. While the other countries have crazy things happening, Russia is tame by comparison. The "craziest" you get is having a philosopher (Dugin) in power... what are some ideas for the devs to include of routes similar to AI Biden, Cognoscenti, WEF, Loji, etc.?
>Stalin, but he's back from the dead as a mentally competent zombie and ready to rule supreme once more.
>George Zhukov, but he's back from the dead as an AI robot and ready to rule through a military-statist regime.
>The Primarch, having arrived during the 1908 Tunguska Event, it has laid dormant, until now. The alien seizes control of Moscow and the Russian armed forces and is unstoppable.
What else?
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>>2349935
These are all fucking terrible ideas and I hope you're just trolling.
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>>2349931
>Why did they do the thing thats explained in the post I'm replying to?
It's a mystery.
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>>2349505
Dont disrespect Tota's old head dev like that bud
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>>2349935
that's the point
russia is intellectually bankrupt
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>>2349938
>people always say 100% the things they mean
What is subterfuge for $500, Alex.
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>>2349937
Do you have any better ideas? Maybe the lost Czech legion, having wandered Siberia for the past century, finds its way to Moscow and seizes power?
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>>2349943
Dude you're mentally ill. You've been making up elaborate conspiracy theories about that poll for a week. There are diehard flat earthers that are less fact resistant than you.

>>2349944
This feels more random and stupid than early KX.
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some ACTUAL ideas for more Russia paths:
- RCWP-CPSU following Stalinism, post defeat route for Medvedev and LDPR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Communist_Workers%27_Party_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union
- Club of Angry Patriots, following Ultranationalism, post defeat route for Medvedev and CPRF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Angry_Patriots
- An anarchist route that can come from any path. I would personally base this off of the 'Party of the Dead".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Dead
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Can't we get to Page 8 sooner? I want a new bake to be honest.
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>>2349984

New ‘toss just for you, anon
>>2350039
>>2350039
>>2350039

Threads getting cumbersome anyway
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>>2350069
Baking early is seen as ok if the thread is well over a thousand posts long. Like with everything else in life, blame the TNO dev for shitting up the thread with his shilling.

Migration tends to be slow anyway when it's like this.
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>>2350121
Retard what the fuck are you even talking about
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>>2350135
>Doesn't understand basic concepts
>Calls other people retarded
Gigantic post counts make thread slow. New thread warranted sooner.
Early bake even if warranted means that people migrate more slowly to new thread since there may still be ongoing conversations here.
Hopefully that was more comprehensible for you.
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>>2350161
why are you even still here? move to the new thread for fuck sake

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