>>2344418
this list is so soulless

Man, being a Crusader King is kinda boring. I basically just declare war on Fatimids and wait until the truce ends so I can declare another war on the Fatimids. I'm probably just gonna have to start conquering Sicily to make it less boring or something.

>>2344418
>QOL update is literally just copying mods again
It's better than nothing I suppose.

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Dev Diary #192 - Spring Cleaning
Previous Dev Diary 191 - 2025 in Review >>2298825
Realm Maintenance Update: Q2
Accolades Revamp
>Squires as a buff/debuff to Accolade successor, who is automatically selected
>Glory ranks are now spent on Attribute upgrades, rather than just being a passive increase to modifiers
>No glory loss if Accolade dies in battle
Ledger
>Artifacts, Characters, Ongoing Wars, Houses, etc
Spring Cleaning Session
>Thursday "Community Fix Day" -- submit a bug on Discord and see those forwarded into the game
>will run an Open Beta for the update to bugfix
Other
>some mapping screenshot
>not from this Dev Diary but from another discussion: a province size that unlocks District slots (to be added some time in 2026)

Not having to micro accolades is a plus, I don't even bother using it currently because the marginal benefits aren't worth the headache

>>2345275
oh yeah, forgot the link
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-192-spring-cleaning.1902372/
turns out that 2 months without a dev diary makes a man rusty

>>2344418
>>2345275
>adding more things that should have been in from the beginning

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>>2344418
mysterious attached image they later removed. Are they teasing us that roads will be included?

The Mani peninsula in southern Greece was majority Greco-Roman pagan until the 9th century AD, being the last known region to abandon the religion.
Paradox devs have known this for years but refuse to make the associated county Hellenic in the early start date just le because they want to make restoring Hellenism as hard as possible.
They could make a historically plausible Hellenic adventurer start based around this or something, but no, no fun allowed.
Putting their own desires before historical accuracy pisses me off!

We need an africa expansion

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what're the preferred map graphics? AuH looks too cheap and light
Yusseter's Better Map Graphics? It has a deep tone that I like for the summers, but its winter is just a blindly painted white without any patches https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3378722062
oGongzelin's UnderstatedEleganceInGraphics?
Gongzelin's almost as light as the base game, but its winter has very fine details and even absorbed a snowfall effect from a since-abandoned mod. It also has some bloat and a fontmod I don't like https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3656676664

I miss the classic IR Terrain and Snow with some Patches that have served me since 2021

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>>2345689sage
nvm, Gongzelin's was just light due to the startdate snow effect. It's summers are just as good as Yusseters
I just need to find a good fontpack

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>>2344418
Is it better than CK2 yet?

>>2345712
Has been since Tours & Tournaments

>>2345712
>no republics
>no trade
>no societies
no

Have there been significant changes since the landless DLC? Road to Power or whatever it was called. I last played then and it looked like only poorly received DLC and updates came out since then.

After years of waiting for the game to build up, I just bought CK3. What mods are recommended? QoL, Ruler Designer expander things. And are there any really good total conversions? I know there's a Warhammer Fantasy, LotR and TES ones, are they good?

>>2345712
It's good for one nomad and one landless run
Everything else in ck3 is shit tier

>>2345315
The only one that’s worth the upkeep right now is the legendary blademaster accolade. They teach you and your current heir blademaster every 3 years.

>>2345689
I play with Orthographic Perspective.

>>2345712
The problem is not a lack of features, the game is shit on a fundamental game design level

>>2346439
Elder Kings 2 is a great mod and more interesting than the base game

>>2346439
I want to recommend After the End but it's gotten very gay and very Jewish since the original guys abandoned the CK2 version. Maybe worth a look but YMMV.

>>2346439
Grab EK2 (that's the elder scrolls mod) + Systrean Restoration (fixes a retarded retcon EK2 devs did recently), CK3's mechanics work way better for that setting plus it fixes some of the mechanics (religions are way more detailed / nuanced for example; cultures are actually tied to specific regions where they spread more easily so there's less culture gore; etc). Although be aware that EK2 is currently for version 17 of CK3, not version 18, so you need to opt in to the older beta.

Also CK3 is actually a pretty good porn game, grab carnalitas off loverslab and all the degeneracy you want on top (but be aware as well that you need to grab the versions for the version of CK3 you're on, if you do use a total conversion that's on an older version, like EK2)

Just got Mandate of Heaven and Horse Lords 2.0 and need help choosing a first playthrough. I can't decide between

>Japanese Daimyo
>finally try Persia
>raise army as Finnish adventurer, travel to and subjugate Korea

>>2346439
>And are there any really good total conversions?
Princes of Darkness is a very easy recommendation for trying out, and they are up to date fast as fuck in relation to DLCs/patches. Very communicative too from what I've seen.
Might not work with some other mods though. It'll throw up a warning against Better Barbershop for instance last I checked. Something about it fucking with menus.

>>2346895
Japanese Daimyo is probably the most novel of the 3

I hope we get a dlc like Monks and Mystics for CK3.

what is wrong with china
i have sunk several thousands worth of influence into candidate score, gotten max confucian education, reached 4th merit rank and i'm still 94th in line for a county title

>>2344418
Apparently, WTWSMS for CK2 had some updates recently.

>>2347173
What did they update?

>>2347057
skill issue

>>2347057
>he thinks it's actually about merit

>>2347173
>>2347194
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/wtwsms-2025-interim-release.1853928/#post-31095593
Loved this mod back in the day.

>>2347057
You're also up against the rank 3s and up. If your candidate score is high enough you should spike to the top of whatever rank you enter

>>2346948
Did they fix the estate buildings? I remember something being funky with those at launch

>>2346948
I started as a minor noble house, played politics to make myself first in line for appointment to the governorship of my family's home district of Iyo, then leveraged what little influence I had to force the incompetent governor to retire. Now I'm trying to max out my income, be a good governor, and play more politics to increase my own family's influence while keeping the Saga bloc from becoming powerful enough to break the system. I was forced into the Saga bloc before I even got the governorship but switched over to supporting the Sugawara for balance and also because they paid me. It's almost a completely different game.

>>2347467
>Did they fix the estate buildings? I remember something being funky with those at launch

They seem fine to me.

>>2347485
This actually sounds interesting. Might start a game in Japan. Been almost a year since I played. Thanks anon.

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Randomly generated character with SIX personality traits. Married her to my courtier immediately just because I could barely believe it. Has anyone else seen this many before? How does this even happen?

>>2347578
I know chivalry events can give you brave

>>2347578
>How does this even happen
3 is default, +1 from ward interaction, +zealous or cynical from learning events, +brave from martial event, +greedy from coronation event, +eccentric from stress LV 3 event.
At least those are the ones I am aware of.

>Conquer china as Ghenghis Khan
>Achievement for being a dominant family in Byzantium fires
Well-deserved I guess

>>2347485
hope you like adultery arrest notifications if you ever become Kampaku as a Shugendo fellow

Is ck3 good now?

>>2348090
it's aight
though it's really in need of a touchup on the theocratic and by extent crusading end of things

>>2348090
It's fine, if you plan on playing it for 3 or 4 generations of one family. Anything beyond that and AI just gives up on trying to usurp your position in any way

>>2348088
I'm actually still here and I'm really enjoying this run, but I don't want to be Kampaku. The administrative government is kind of fucked because high turnover for the lesser houses lets a few established clans grab a bunch of offices then use their power to constantly start civil wars by forming claimant factions or making offices hereditary.

My galaxy brained six million layer keikaku is to grab all the administrative offices on Shikoku for my family, ask the Kampaku to become a Sōryō vassal legally, then Assert Regional Dominion without a fight because the other offices in the duchy are held by my family members. After that I'll either try to become the shogun and restore order or overthrow the regency and help the actual Emperor unfuck the administrative system.

Also it's retarded that I have to go to Chang'an to get Silk Road Innovations. China is literally right there, why do I have to walk to the far side of it?

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>Today, however, I’m not here to talk about anything that’s part of the next chapter. Instead, I want to talk about something else-

Honestly what brings you back to ck3? After I don't know how many hours playing both ck3 and the agot mod for years everything just feels the same playing it, I did fuck around with that elf destiny mod but that just made me wish that was a standalone game rather than a mod

ate related
i have seen a few posts mentioning "turncoat" as a term for canadians when the redcoats arrive
what does it mean? do they get a event to help out the redcoats?

>>2348412
>Honestly what brings you back to ck3?
I played it for a month after launch and then dropped it. Haven’t touched it since.

man event spam is so obnoxious
i want to strangle tards at paradox whose kpi is tied to player engagement

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How the fuck do I deal with this?

I've been raiding as much as possible and stacking gold because mercenaries are my only chance, right?

>>2348461
Honestly you haven't missed too much. The last few expansions are generously described as bloat and garbage.

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>have succession
>treasury income collapses for no reason
>update budget 45-45 when the event comes up
>everyone get -200 opinion for no reason
>treasury income recovers right after you take the hit
>forcing budget update only gives +30 opinion for salary increase
broken dog shit, why did people even praise byzantine dlc

>>2348628
Swear tributary before its too late
Or swear vassalage and join the first strong faction revolt

>>2348685
Treasury was an All Under Heaven addition; It was never balanced for the Byzantines and never will be

>>2345712
I really miss the fantasy elements from ck2. you could actually become a fucking warlock

>>2344418
Is it normal that all feudal kingdoms change succession to elective? I don't know if it's how AI acts now or some mod fucks with it

>>2346439
There is no warhammer fantasy, they would be sued to oblivion by GW

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>>2348851
Nah
There is no Warhammer Fantasy CK 3 mod because the team working on it is slow and probably mismanaged

so what are you using for province names in 3?
more cultural names is still not updated, immersive toponyms is kinda ehh with it's names for me and nomina culturlia maxima is full of bugs

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>got scammed by a traveling jew
i seize this opportunity to condemn one more time from the bottom of my soul and of my visceras the state of israel

>>2349004
>cultural names
You guys really like this?

>>2349032
yeah? nothing annoys me more than provinces controlled by slavs with german names

>>2349004
in true Alexandrine fashion I rename every county I take after the ruler at the time

>>2349032
Hell no. Not a big fan of muh cultural names for maas either.

>>2349046
>mfw 270 cities all named Alexandria-on-the-River

>>2349062
>yfw 270 cities all named Fag-on-the-Bend

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idk if it's me or that new innovation UI is unreadable

since northmen are being turned into boers in next ek2 update going to have to check if they snuck Die Antwoord into any of those courts
really doubt it but it'd be funny I guess
>>2349076
It feels like I'll start getting a headache if I look at it too long, if that counts

>>2349082
are there any ek2 news? like they stopped dilating and started working on the mod for example

>>2349076
is it
so few useful information

>>2349082
Are they renaming them to northfolk too?

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>>2349084
One of the devs implied it was looking like the update was going to drop two weeks ago but they decided it needed more polish/bugfix/loca(?) work. They've been saying soon for about a week and a half now. If that gives you an idea of about how close it is to being released. I'm personally assuming it should be out before March, unless shit happens.
that aside, they dropped Breton namelist teaser about 16 hours ago. Pic is that, alongside a somewhat older teaser that felt relevant.
As of the time of posting, there are no mpreg emoji reactions to the namelist post.

>>2349105
nah, but from ctrl+fing to see what a "Reachman Breton" was, just found out Reachmen don't have Nedic(/North Nedic?) heritage anymore, so I guess they're Breton heritage in the next update
Bjoule won't get hybridized out of existence every single game if that's the case, which is nice

What do you hope we will get in chapter 5?

>>2349304
Something to make Europe less boring.

>>2349084
they literally just posted patch notes
so it's going up shortly

New EK2 update is up

>>2349534
hope the graphical stuff gets fixed soon, I feel like I'm getting snow blindness looking at skyrim

>>2349304
anything that makes Catholic feudal monarchs not the most boring thing to play in a game that is nominally about Catholic feudal monarchies

Is the China DLC fun If I want to play a viking and go on a marco-polo style adventure in Asia?

>>2346439
fuck elder kings and its awful setting play lotr realms in exile

>>2350007
someones having a melty

Playing EK2, have Heartlanders always been so dark-skinned? Like, half of them are straight up black

OK chud

>>2350064
if you wanna lighten them up a little as a workaround you could go up to Skyrim in the winter zoom in and stare at the snow for a few minutes

>>2350064
Well they blacked up the Systres (which are canonically Breton, in fact they're so Breton that in the Oblivion remaster you can pick between High Rock and Systres subraces when making a Breton character) and then seethed and banned people when anyone complained, so seems unsurprising.

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>>2349534
Is marriage broken in this mod? I keep seeing kings marrying their sons to foreigners
Like this guy, heir to Wayrest but he was married off to the now queen of Daggerfall matrilineally

>>2350309
Marriage has always been broken as fuck in EK2 because for whatever reason the devs insist on every culture/religion having equal gender laws and the CK3 AI is just not designed to handle that

>>2350313
Yeah I figured it's some woke retardation. Any way to fix it or revert the marriage laws to default?
Oh and look at this west Skyrim now has a vampire high king.... who's a Meridia cultist
I feel like vampirism is way too lenient, nobody seems to care really

>>2345712
>events every 35 seconds but they are all identical
>go have a feast and see every single possible event in two of them and get stuck doing them again, and again, and again
No. Events make this game a fucking slog to go through.

>>2349004
>not just doing it manually
ngmi

>>2350322
>Any way to fix it or revert the marriage laws to default?
There should be a setting for it, and I think It's in the EK2 game rules section.

>>2350322
There are a few submods that fix the gender laws as far as I’m aware

>>2350313
muh orcs
>>2350309
Can you check when the marriage was arranged, in relation to who the then-current ruler was? My first thought was that they got married while the boy was still a grandchild to the then-King. That's usually where basegame and EK2 fuck up, they seem to have no concept of grandchildren being important. It's usually most noticeable on elves since they live for ages.

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>>2345712
>>2344418
As someone who tried CKIII during a free weekend and has never played CKII (but still have it on Steam because of an official giveaway), which do you seriously recommend I get into.
I liked CKIII from what I saw and I wished to try out more stuff, but again, never compared it to CKII.

>>2350719
I will strongly recommend CK2, if you actually care about the strategy part of the strategy game.
Obviously the game itself is still very good at the larp aspects, but it rewards you more the more you engage with the dynasty management/realm building/intrigue systems.
The map is also a lot more textured because of how different the religions/governments are and the regional mechanics (merchant republics, trade roads, nomads in the steppes)

>>2350719
CK2 + creamapi + HIP is the best experience rn

>>2350539
Sorry, I gave up on that mod already since I couldn't find a working submod for default marriage law but yes it was the grandson and daughter of the starting characters of the earliest bookmark

>>2350736
To add to this there's definitely something fucked up with the marriage system in that mod because I had to stop myself from easily marrying into every kings family because everyone was alright accepting a matrilineal marriage with my daughter with their first born sons and heirs and I was just an adventurer turned count

>>2350737
>I had to stop myself from easily marrying into every kings family because everyone was alright accepting a matrilineal marriage with my daughter with their first born sons and heirs and I was just an adventurer turned count
if that's the case with no absolutely no other mod in use, and especially not some art mod since those are supposedly gremlins when it comes to introducing issues, then yeah that sounds like odd as fuck behavior coming from playing it prior to AuH release
I haven't gotten landed yet so I hadn't really had a chance to see it firsthand. Be lucky if I can see shit as bright as the snow is.

>>2349304
Transgender characters

>>2349974
well that seems to be all anyone is doing with it so presumably

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Im just made this meme some year ago

ayo hol up
since nativity regions can get tacked onto existing cultures in ek2 now, it should be possible to entirely subsume the summerset isles into some autistic ilniviri offshoot without it all being some migratory culture
or maybe straight-up "we have akavir at home" ilniviri with a few imported baandari and imga
all without being fucking blinded by snow
I know what I'm doing now

>>2350951
ooh actually to add to that, since Ilniviri have that female dominated/warrior queens shit, that could alleviate equal succession marriage bullshit since they'd favor matrilineal by default
OK yeah akavir at home it is

>>2350953
not ilniviri I'm retarded, I meant Tsaeci

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>gain Unyielding from war focus
>+2 martial from worshipping the Suomenusko god of war and another +1 from being a devout follower
>gain Sturdy from a ritual sacrifice to the ancestors
>gain Brave from warrior lodge

So this is the power of the Old Gods huh?

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>>2350940

>>2347173
wow, shocked it's still getting worked on
last time I played it was 4 years ago, restored (pagan) Western Rome as Soissons. wanted to go further but the glitches had gotten so extreme that it was impossible

Wish they'd just make a CK like game but fantasy

>>2351715
just mod the game nigga

>>2351722
Yeah but it's jank on top of jank
They should just use their vampire ip to make a proper game instead of anal raping vtmb

>>2351781
not him but I'd be willing to buy a standalone Princes of Darkness game if it meant they wouldn't get devastating anal rape from a Paradox DLC the instant after jerry rigging something that could be called a Mage

Does anyone know if they actually got payed by the Chinese government for the propaganda? It's either that or they got infiltrated.
>>2349974
It's irredeemable ahistorical trash. The best thing they added for years is "hard" difficulty which apparently doesn't do anything except stop the AI realms from breaking up.

>>2352187
>Does anyone know if they actually got payed by the Chinese government for the propaganda? It's either that or they got infiltrated.
Why do they need to get paid or be infiltrated for Paradox to want some Yuans in their wallet?

>>2352208
The propaganda is so extreme it's like a parody. They didn't feel the need to pretend Britain was the centre of the world to get British players.

>>2350064
>Blacks the Systres
>Uber Whites up the Reach
Wtf are the Ek2 team doing.

>>2352354
Reach was always white though? I think they were already broadly celtic back in the daggerfall lore

>get into the game again after nearly a year
>play as Japanese noble family, unlanded initially
>get a province
>civil war breaks out months later, years of peace beforehand
>insurrectionists always occupy my province first
>quit
I hate the AI in these games, EU4 does the same shit. You can be the most irrelevant co-belligerent in a war, the AI will walk past their war target to siege you. Immersion-breaking nonsense.

>>2352426
Whine some moar

>>2352426
>throw your entire army directly into the heartland of the enemy, where they will be waiting for you
>effortlessly pick off the frontier where there will be no resistance
the hardest choices require the strongest wills

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>>2352187
What propaganda? That it always collapses and, when it stands, is a bureaucratic mess of warlords vying for power while governors steal as much from the treasury as possible?

>>2352549
They're the highest power in the world, emperors of emperors, recognized by Icelandic lords as something to "kowtow" to, the only place in the world that values education and a source of tech that for some reason doesn't propagate through Europe. In CK3 world the rational Icelandic lord would go on pilgrimage to the holiest holy mecca of China over any other place. It's almost definitely Chinese state propaganda. In reality they were just another empire, less interesting than Persia except they didn't get fucked by Islam.
In hard they never collapse and the Mongols don't touch them.

>>2352549
the "Activate Windows" watermark really makes it

>>2352370
Always thought they were more on the caveman tan white side, still definitely white but years in the sun made them a caveman tan.

Iirc the reason they turned them back into normal-ish Bretons and shit was because "original" lore basically made them Nordic/Breton colonists and settlers who were just kinda celtic and independent from the rest back in PGE. Newer lore basically made them a mongrel race bred from Orcs, Nords, Bretons and whatever nedes were still in the area and practiced worship of Daedra.

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>>2352586
>highest power in the world
Quite comparable, yes
>Emperor of Emperors
Gameplay mechanic because the scope of Empire in the East isn't the same as Empire in the west. There is only one Middle Kingdom, the same as there only being one Roman Empire
>recognized by Icelandic lords as something to "kowtow" to
It was common across East Asia to kowtow to China for benefits, yes. It's not something westerners need to do.
>the only place in the world that values education and a source of tech that for some reason doesn't propagate through Europe
There were certain technologies and techniques that were unique to China and propagated outwards, but that they stop at Byzantium and Cairo is inaccurate--the same that Japan and SEA are cut out of it, too, for gamey reasons. The dumb "travel to silk road market" activity is fucking dogshit, just like Bloody Weddings and Cat-apults.
There should certainly be more unique Innovations to different regions but Paradox says it's a sandbox so Africans are the same as Norwegians (which isn't wrong)
>In CK3 world the rational Icelandic lord would go on pilgrimage to the holiest holy mecca of China over any other place
You certainly aren't punished for not doing it, given how the AI can't manage to actually use any of its benefits
>In hard they never collapse and the Mongols don't touch them.
Tang always collapses but the Song is a different story, particularly because the AI always chooses the path of least resistance and never fights and equal or larger foe. It is a CK3 problem more than just Chinese

>>2352745
You're not saying anything. Why is a Swedish company pushing Chinese propaganda?

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>>2352782
The truth isn't propaganda, hakgwei

>>2352782
They don't want another game B& from one of the largest paypig markets.

>>2352782
>you're not saying anything
is this some slang for "I want to have a polmonkey chimpdown please become agitated while I double down"

>>2352811
It means you're not saying anything. You just listed a bunch of points I know that confirm CK3 is ahistorical propaganda while acting like you're saying the opposite.

>play chinaman for the first time
>hardstuck in 8th rank of civil career
>have to complete local examination to go higher
>go to activities and attempt to start a local examination
>can't go through with it because of "You have not passed the local examination"
So to conduct a local examination I need to have passed a local examination but I can't pass the local examination without conducting one
What do?

the historical thing would be to topple the dynasty over your personal inability to advance

The fall of the Ming to those Manchu savages has got to be one of the biggest tragedies in the history of China.

Steppe nomads are subhumans who should have been all genocided 1000 years ago for the greater good of humanity.

>>2352850
This but the other way around, Genghis Khan (Praise Be Upon Him) should have completely exterminated the h*n and turned China into one giant pasture for his herds.

>>2352837
I think you have to find one being hosted, you can't proctor your own exam

After playing CK3 in China I finally understand the peninsula of Asia meme. If euros hadn’t conquered the world they would probably just be considered a subcontinent like jeets.

>>2350719
>pic related
she is in my game and now I have no idea if it's some mod or they added another meme to ck3

>>2350313
It's like that because it's like that in TES.

>>2352928
"Asia" is just Turkey. China is the less notable farmer sibling of the Tibetan culture.

>>2345275
honestly the fact that it took them this long to just incorporate the knight manager mod is appalling
literally unplayable without it

if i conquer china, am i forced to adopt chinese government? can i form the chinese hegemony without going admin if i'm playing as an unwashed tribal barbarian or something?

>>2352837
I found the solution. To participate in the exam I needed to not be an active governor so I quit my job, went back to school and got that higher degree. Then applied for higher paying jobs than before (in chinese)
Weird system and the game does an awful job at explaining it

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What would be his playstyle starting as Baldwin?

>>2353273
Sending gold to the muslims so they can afford to attack and he can call in all his allies without prestige loss.

>>2353273
blackmail - demand money combo on other kingdoms

>>2353273
intriguemaxx and let the byzantine golem do all the dirty work for him

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I have bought the most important CK3 DLCs and i'm wondering if i should buy the CK2 subscription. I'm craving and old school paraslop game but EU3 and Vic2 look a bit dated to me. I think CK2 is the sweet spot in what i'm looking. What do you think

>>2353292
>Buy
Nigga, just pirate that shit

>>2353292
Cs.rin.ru has good discounts on the dlc

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Realms in Exile's upcoming update is going to add some much needed black people.

>>2353455
based
ytboi gondorians will pay reparations

I was thinking about developing a free, open source clone for ck2.
It looks like a good idea, so if you want to excuse me i'll have to withdraw in my ivory tower and spend at least six months studying c++ manuals 24/7.

>>2344418
I went back to Imperator and got so much more enjoyment from it.
It funny how high contrast it is.
In Imperator, recovering from a battle takes decades.
In CK3 it takes months.

>>2353798
Took me months to recover from the last time I tried that busted piece of shit game.

>>2353814
Levies I suppose?

>>2353048
>Weird system and the game does an awful job at explaining it
the ancient chinese probably felt the same about the real system

>>2345712
If governance wasn't so heavily restricted by tech, it'd be great. Fucking retarded you have to wait til the late game to get normal ass inheritance laws, like primogeniture.

Landless is fun, however, especially if you play as a brigand or you lose your territory. The most fun I ever had was being a Norse Duke of Normandy under France, having the king start a revocation war, lose to him, have my guy die, then watch as my eight-year old son is made to wander with a camp for twelve years, rebuilding. He eventually took Lotharingia, most of the Netherlands, Burgundy, Normandy, and half of France, all in revenge wars with claims. A real Return of the King moment. That was peak gaming. But moments like that are incredibly few in CK3.

>>2353798
I want to like Imperator, but the problem is I like playing no name kingdoms and building them up. And you can't do that because Rome just stomps right up to you with giga armies. If only they gave a scenario BEFORE the ascendancy of Rome so you had time to build up first.

>>2353857
I see Rome as the final boss

>>2353857
>>2353858
but that being said, I do agree start date is bizarre. I have no idea why they picked 304 BCE. Seleucus shouldn't even be landed in 304.
I guess the start date was always going to suck

>>2353857
if you're playing outside of Italy or Greece, you can usually get away with ignoring Rome for a bit while building up a power base
if you're playing in Italy/Greece, then unless you're playing as one of their initial subjects you can generally rush them before they begin rolling

just make sure you save up enough for a decently-sized merc stack and assault the shit out of everything, targeting Rome itself especially
>>2353860
>Seleucus shouldn't even be landed in 304.
Huh? Are you confusing 304 with 314?
His exile ended in either 312 or 311

>>2353861
>Huh? Are you confusing 304 with 314?
yeah my bad

Picking a start date was always going to be difficult.
Between Alexander's death and Ipsu,s shit is messy.
During Achcmenids there is no point because the Achaemenids would be overpowered.
I feel the latest viable start date would have been 626 BC. Which was the beginning of Neo-Babylonian revolt against Neo-Assyria.

>declare war with the eradicate house CB
>house has 3 members, one landed ruler and his two children
>win
>kill the ruler and his wife, both his kids are still alive
??????

>play anywhere in Persia
>Seljuk spawns
>fun ruined
inherited special event troops are so fucking gay

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>>2353995
That's how I feel playing anywhere near pic related.

Assuming it is the same in CK3 at least event troops never regenerate manpower so even if you lose one or two wars you can still bounce back as long as you inflict great losses on them.

>>2354089
The only special troops worth mentioning in ck3 are crusader heavy infantry and assorted bandits from adventurer. Bandits being pretty much player only and only because they're both free and you can get insane numbers of them. But those order heavy infantry and all other special troops can't be stationed so base stats and can't refill while not being immune to attrition or siege attrition. So, former means you can kill mongol horse archers 50:1 with basic ass MAAs since ai is dumb as shit and will attack you in mountains and latter means you need battles not wars to attrition him. Of note all special troops disband on succession so if you're a single county or something when 7 gorillion horsefags come a knocking you can still assassinate the khan or the like and remove them from the game with no questions asked.

In short don't be fooled by random whining.

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>>2353995
>play anywhere in Persia
>Seljuk spawns
In CK2 there's Sabuktigin Ghaznavid, then Seljuk a few decades later, then Genghis Khan in the early 1200s and finally Timur around 1350.

It's certainly the toughest region to keep a hold of in the game because of great conquerors always wanting a piece (or all) of it. I wonder why everyone wanted this mountainous, difficult terrain.

>>2354195
>I wonder why everyone wanted this mountainous, difficult terrain.
The main silkroad goes through Persia.
Trade routes connecting East and West print money.

>>2354195
Tin and cedar, then incense and sandalwood, then silk and spices and now oil. Think of it as you would of india, as long as you don't consider pajeets the land is both very habitable and rich.

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>>2353273
>mfw greed is a sin in CK3 Judaism

I don't think Seljuk ever recovered in CK2 with whatever changes accompanied the map getting extended east to the Tarim Basin/India, he either died to something random(/in battle as a commander?) before getting land or his initial army ate so much shit in his first war that he was little different from another random ducal shitter
I forgot Ghaznavid could even spawn

>>2354294
I've never seen him not conquer Persia.

>>2354294
Seljuk has the problem that his initial force is scaled based on who controls Merv. So he can easily lose if some puny shitter has the target area and has allies. But then he if he wins he gets a doomstack like Sabuktigin and his descendants can even get resurgence for more troops.

I hate how most Total Conversion mods for this game are in the "develop irrelevant shit nobody cares about now and put 0 thought into mechanics people care for". Realms in Exile had finally added more invaders after spending all their time focusing on some dumbass nigger cultures nobody plays, and EK2 niggas actively kill submods while cutting out cultures out of their mod. What the fuck are these retards doing?

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>>2354524
>AGOT for CK3 still hasn't added a pre-Conquest or War of the Five Kings bookmark and keeps trying to piggyback off the new shows instead

>>2354524
Does Realms in Exile even have Fellowship events right now?

>>2354294
I haven't seen Seljuk conquer Persia or acquire the conqueror trait in any of my campaigns.
He usually consolidates his realm in northern Persia while the Abbablob takes over.

>3 Brown Hegemonies (India, Arabia, Rome)
>2 Yellow Hegemonies (Mongols, China)
>0 huWhite Hegemonies
>0 Black Hegemonies
Whitebros… Blackbros…

I legitimately do not understand why they did not add in Africa as a hegemony
yeah it would be a shitty meme title but there's literally a decision called "Unite Africa", why do you not let me unite it?

>>2355083
Good, whites don't deserve good things
Shame about blacks though
>>2355088
Apparently all hegemonies are supposed to be historical. As in existing previously.
But by that metric India shouldn't be a hegemony as well, as it was never united before brits came

I wish I wasn't revolted by nord/falmer hybrids as much as I am, I'd rather focus on anything else than keeping Nords out of my vassal's pants

>>2354534
I think the former is mostly because king's landing wasn't a thing before Aegon and since you can't replace terrain with the current engine the devs just gave up on that. I heard they're not making the War of the Five Kings because they "need" to implement the white walkers correctly, even though a submod already did good enough on that front.
Btw wich agot hoe you fuckin? I'm rebuilding Harrenhal and giving Danelle Lothston a son for each tower repaired.

>>2355100
>But by that metric India shouldn't be a hegemony as well, as it was never united before brits came
Wasn't there that ashoka bauvragati fella that killed a bunch of jeets then went "boohoo i'm sad ill become buddhist now"?

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Here's your White Hegemony.

>>2355083
>>2355088
>>2355100
I just don't get why you're not allowed to form a custom hegemon if you hold three or more empire titles. Yeah yeah they want the hegemon titles to have historical 'flavor' or whatever, but in that case just add a rule that you can't do it when two or more of the empire titles already belong to a de jure hegemony.

>>2355313
but that's the Roman Empire

Marrying outside of the culture group ticks my autism more than I'd like to admit.

>>2355352
my favourite historical instance of this sort of thing is that Henry I of France (the king just before Philip, the king in 1066) took Anne of Kiev as his wife solely because Kiev was the closest place with a viable candidate which wouldn't be incestuous by church standards

>>2355359
I'm sure her reportedly enormous dowry had nothing to do with it.

>>2355370
Enormous enough that not a single detail was ever recorded beyond "big", yes

>>2355192
not that anon but dornish and valyrian girls are my all time favourite

>>2355372
And the Reims Gospel so insignificant and valueless french kings did their coronation with it, among other equally worthless manuscripts, and enough gold, jewels and furs to outfit several abbeys including but not limiting to Abbey of Notre Dame at Laon or Abbey of Saint Vincent in Senlis. The bitch was rich, 18 years younger than Henry, had ties to Bohemia and Poland and the Pope was happy because he got to stick it to the byzanmemes.

Do a google search deeper than wikipedia my man. It's a fairly interesting story.

>>2355405
Not sure what the Reims Gospel has to do with Anne of Kiev, considering it only enters France 500 years after she does, but good to know all the same

>>2355410
Right? It's not like it was called Bible of Anna Yaroslavna or anything before some Hussite wiped his ass with the original. To be fair probably something Peter the Great capitalized on and pulled out his ass but again, interesting story not fully covered by zoompedia.

>>2355413
Or much of the Anglophone internet in general outside of like two Ukrainian websites, one of which explicitly refers to the origin with Anna Yaroslavna as a "legend".
Regardless, if the part that came with Anna was the big deal, surely you can name any French monarchs who used it in their coronation before the Caroline half showed up?

>>2355414
>capitalizing the F in french
I can deal with you being a passive aggressive douchebag desperately trying to get a one up on some random in a pissing match that only exists in your own head. I read up on a topic you brought up, and thanks for that by the way. Fun read. But this is just... barbaric. I cannot abide with faggotry this uncivilized. Treating them bowlegged chainsmoking cheese munchers as... people. Ew.

Seriously nigga. Dislodge that stick from your ass and have a normal chat if you're capable. You don't find it amusing that actual kings swore their coronation oaths on muh lost language that could just as easily have been a polish recipe for kielbasa?

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>"My name is Constantin, Emperor of Romans in Constantinople:
Look on my works, ye Gr**koids, and despair!"

>>2355192
>Btw wich agot hoe you fuckin?
for me, it's Arianne Martell

>>2355460
I am looking at the big Erbia and Eljuks.

>>2352354
One of the devs was having a melty at white people for ... some reason and decided to remove the canon Bretons from the Systres and add Redgaurds just because (even though the sea is already full of Redguards). Was just bizarre.

>>2355580
I don't recall seeing anything about wypeppo melty prior to Systres getting the axe myself and I sit in there harmlessly. I think the stated reasoning was that it was never intended to be in a release build to begin with and in their infinite wisdom decided to shitcan it in favor of something supposedly more suitable for the time period. At least one dev stated it was intended to give Bretons a decision to form the culture on holding the islands, but I never had access to it myself when I tried having a go at it after seeing that statement, so I assume they had some internal disagreement or the guy who wanted to do it lost interest and fucked off.
fuck knows what contentious autism has been going on in their dev channels lately

>>2355196
Yes. Although, as the comparison in ck2 goes, Alexander’s empire could be seen as a hegemon as well. Perhaps they didn’t do that because it fell apart immediately when he died.

EK2 is literally unplayable without using the male preference mod not because of bigotry but because the AI can't handle equal succession

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>>2355783
works in my realm of ticcing the isolationist button while exclusively landing children after ensuring they won't be able to make goofy-ass children with goofy-ass nords. Deaths are infrequent enough I can just tank tyranny/legitimacy hits to fix up stray internal border shenanigans. Those cadet dynasties are going to fucking die though
also, turns out an elf with herculean can easily push 350+

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>>2350735
Ok, so, I creampied the game.
What is this HIP stuff? A mod overhaul I get it? How does it change the game, and shold I use it for a first playthrough?

>>2355826
HIP is a mod that supposedly makes the map and some mechanics more historically accurate and also balance the game to make it more difficult.
I liked most of the changes but I disliked the smaller map (it removes India and a chunk of the eastern map) and dropped a campaign when I found out you can't raid anymore after reforming a pagan religion and converting to feudal.

Play the vanilla game (with all de DLC) on your first playthrough. If you like it, try HIP afterwards.

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>>2348727
Still standing. After not playing for many days I was pleasantly surprised to go back to the campaign and immediately see Khazaria split after the Khagan's death. My old ruler died and I immediately attacked my brothers for my lost counties and launched a subjugation on Novgorod.

I CONFESS though, I cheesed for gold by inviting everyone I could with 20+ and abusing imprison + banishment. I was afraid to be attacked by nomads and not have gold to hire enough mercenary bands to survive and I really don't want to start another campaign.
When I was done uh, collecting everyone's donations, I had to basically imprison, revoke and kick out all of my vassals + my courtiers because everyone had -3000 opinion of me from the tyranny.

It's for the greater good though, for the survival of the Suomenusko faith and the finno-ugric peoples, I'm sure they'll understand.

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>5 modder dlc's by Q2 and no Chapter 5 info

>>2355864
Getting the new map is optional during HIP install

China never existed. The great wall was built by Hyperboreans to protect from southern jungle cannibals.

>>2356104
they have to expand on asia please understand. australia dlc and no merchant republics please understand

>>2356104
the more clothing and hairs they add the more I wish they'd implement a means to adopt "court clothes" from another culture without outright hybridizing
or maybe at least implement a means to vary some of that shit by climate

>>2355864
>>2356107
Alright. I think I'll avoid it for now and try it later.
Anything else I could use? I noticed the UI is pretty small and not easily readable so I was wondering if there was something for that, maybe any other QoL mod.

>can generate same-culture/faith character by using culture ambassador travel option
woo adventuring with people that aren't immediately plotting to kill one another

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ck3
I just started a new playtrough as some buttfuck nowhere Sami tribal nation and got two children boy and a girl as twins, both intelligent and Giant, and now I want them to go full Cersei and Jaime and make babies, but how to force it?

>>2357231
reform your religion to allow divine marriage

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>>2355083
>>2355100
>>2355317
Rome has always been the "Hegemony of Europe." The title of "Roman Emperor" is synonymous with "The Ruler of Europe / Western Civilization." Any European empire that would have succeeded in conquering most of Europe would have naturally evolved into being "The Roman Empire." Even as late as the 19th century, Napoleon Bonaparte tried to style himself as a "Roman Emperor." You could even argue that Nazi Germany in the 20th century was trying to roleplay as a "Roman Empire."

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>An error occurred while parsing the configuration file!

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Anyone else got a bug where hunting deers,stags and the like, just give you a shit quality skull or hide with 0.001 prestige and the artifact doesn't mention it was from a deer like other hunting artifacts do? Seems only one other guy on the plaza got this but no fix in sight. I spent more than 2 hours patching the hunting events but nothing to show for it. What do?

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I haven't tried out the asia DLC, so I started a save in Korea as a vassal to try it out.
>ruler dies early, now I'm a baby
>spend 30+ years helping others' examinations to boost my merit
>finally get some governorship
>keep getting moved around, there's nothing to do in the long term other than developing my state
>can't declare wars unless I'm in a military region
>die early again
>I'm a baby again so I'll have to spend another 30 years doing nothing only to get another governorship to keep doing nothing
Epic gameplay. I'm assuming China is more of the same but with more cancer because merit goes all the way to 1st.

>>2358052
yeah I have that but I assumed it's a mod problem

>can't usurp title of hostile faith
Fucking why?

ek2
>sponsor invade a little under Balfiera as a glenumbran
>flip to witchman by conquering duchy of Evermore, hand it off to a daughter then fuck off to Systres and get independence
>Balfiera/daughter expand into the western Reach and I wind up culture head with two provinces, both in Abecce region
>decide to make weebwitch knights since I have some ilniviri on hand, wait ages as that sets up, make some clones and bully crowns to pass the time
>migratory
reload into divergence it is
>nativity regions imported 1:1 from witchman, not considered native to abecce despite only having land south of Betony(? island off south coast of Daggerfall)
guess I'll save edit or delete it tomorrow, maybe check in debug if culture heads diverging in particular fucks with how it checks nativity shit

also a late-20s non-conqueror Godlike(piety) Mane had tributized most of Nibenay including Imperial isle about 10 years prior to that

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>>2357270
>Rome is around
>Everybody and their mother hates the Romans, including the Romans
>Rome collapses
>Everybody and their mother wants to pretend to be Romans, including the Italians
Make it make sense

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>>2358384
>Make it make sense

>>2358384
We'll see brownoids larping as Europeans in 200-ish years.

unironically partition is more fun than primogeniture

>>2358618
I like primogeniture because it allows me to land my sons appropriately without creating future inheritance gore, as well as make them beneficiaries in crusades

>>2358381
>ek2
Is the snow texture fucked up for everyone else? It's so bright and ugly

>>2358618
True unless it affects counties. They should get duke tier and upwards but leave my main counties alone you brats!

>>2358644
Unironically this. Even if they create a new title of equal or one lower rank if one is otherwise unavailable I could deal with it. I mean I only got myself to blame for running partition. But they'll do that already AND take my landmark county on the other side of the empire.

Greedy fucks.

>>2358643
yeah it's still bad, especially zoomed in far enough that realm colours disappear
It used to be significantly worse IIRC, overrode realm colours to the point of having no distinguishing tint to know who owned what, I think it was brighter too
hopefully they can get it fixed soon, from what I gather (hearsay) they aren't the only ones having trouble with snow

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>>2350729
>>2350735
Sorry, I tried playing CKII, but the UI is so unintuitive it's hard to figure out what exactly is everything or what to do next. I'm currently trying again CKIII with all DLCs and it's so much easy to figure out where is stuff and how to make it work, great QoL improvement.
Is there no way to bring 3 to the level of 2 or beyond it using mods?

>>2358817
>Is there no way to bring 3 to the level of 2 or beyond it using mods?
The focus is too different, so most of the mods are RP shit

>>2358381
mod updated, nativity should work now
I deleted my save already lmfao
also they bolded text in the update post that the next update "won't be savegame compatible ! ! !", whatever that implies they're fucking with

So why does CK3 treat witchcraft as a universal constant that exist everywhere?
In the first place, shouldn't witchcraft basically be the character secretly converting to some pagan religion?

>>2358974
>In the first place, shouldn't witchcraft basically be the character secretly converting to some pagan religion?
no
Plenty of proper Catholics, at least, practiced witchcraft during the medieval era, though IIRC it was mostly starting in the 1200s

>>2358975
What? That's blatantly false
Sure, there were plenty of degrees of non-standardized practices due to the difficulties of maintining church orthodoxy, particularly across the whole of Christendom when you had expanding/shrinking frontiers, localized sycreticism, and cultural exchange, but never "practicing" witchcraft. It would be subtle things, often traditions that were created over the conversion practices--spin a maypole, celebrate the midsommar, etc, but they're overwritten with christian teachings and cultural normals of the time because people are still people and enjoy a festivity and the seasons/celestial events are literally in front of their eyes. To seek out a wizened woodswoman for herbs wasn't witchcraft, for after all, they were all part of God's creation, too
As you mention about the 1200's, that's when the Dominicans were created to combat unorthodoxy, particularly amongst the Cathars and other splinter groups, who were eager to crack down on anything too unorthodox or syncretic, but, then again, it's not like the noblemen and women were gathering in cabals to sacrifice goats to secure the summer's eve--they were people going to a local esoteric for hopes of some help that could offer; nothing different than the Japanese getting a "good luck" charm from their local shrine to pass entrance exams--it's not like they're actively begging and sacrificing to the Kami, it's a cultural positivity.
Sure, there are cases of people actively trying to curse and ruin other people, which was a part of mysticism, but it's also in the same context as trying to hire an assassin--a means to an end

>>2359066
For one example please consult the University of Paris' Condemnation of 1277.
You don't issue a denunciation of "the books, scrolls, and leaflets dealing with necromancy, or containing experiments in fortunetelling, invocations of devils or incantations endangering lives, or in which these and similar things evidently contrary to the orthodox faith and good morals are treated", nor do you "pronounce the sentence of excommunication against those who shall have taught the said scrolls, books, and leaflets, or listened to
them, unless they reveal themselves... within seven days in the manner described" unless there are people actually doing that among your ranks.

>>2358975
Anon... Not even a catholcuck and I know you're full of shit.

>>2359095
Not sure why you're trying to imply the need for Catholic apologetics? It's not like I singled out Catholicism because I perceive it as a religion of demon-worshippers, just because A: it's Crusader Kings so the emphasis is (ostensibly) on the guys doing the Crusades and B: it's the one I'm most familiar with sources for in the time period
the point is that you can believe everything Catholicism teaches, to the letter, and still decide that "yeah, actually, I'm gonna talk with Satan instead." Or any other sect of Christianity. Or the equivalent for any other religion. Suggesting that witchcraft should change your religion is some hardcore no-true-Scotsman shit

>>2359093
That is a correct assumption, but that isn't proof that "Plenty of proper Catholics... practiced witchcraft during the medieval era"
As I said, the Dominicans were hunting Cathars and aware of any idiosyncrasies in the 1200's. The condemnation itself was a trial against Aristotlian beliefs, a repeat of previous condemnations. That there were people were attempting fortunetelling or seeking scrolls of the necromancy are, as a mentioned, an outlier. I am not familiar with the sources for the Condemnation, but, in my interpretation, it's the same kind of warning of a company mass email--one guy suffered an injury not wearing his safety gloves, that doesn't mean that everyone leaves their gloves in a truck. Some churchmen found one or two localized instances, or even a group of people together--it wasn't a whole village in romping Saturnalia or a cabal of nobles abducting children.
It's like saying "Plenty of proper gsg players are trans" because HoI4 exists. They are a tremendously extreme, though vocal, minority, not "plenty."

>>2359107
Bruh... you might legitimately be brain damaged.

>>2359109
>>2359111
I will concede that "plenty" may not have been the best word but I stand by my point - at least in the minds of the elites, there was a very real threat of some of the educated and elite, the two groups that make up the majority of characters in this game and which include the clergy, taking up black magic.
The addition of witchcraft as a serious mechanic is a shitty meme in general though and it was in 2 as well. Big problem is that before the inquisitions of the 1200s, nobody took any of this shit seriously. Saying that witchcraft should make you a pagan because they would denounce you as such doesn't hold up as well when for the majority of the game's timeframe, you'd get that treatment merely for believing that they existed at all.
But "lmao you discovered someone else's witch secret, guess YOU'RE gonna get fucked in the ass by the Pope" isn't really a fun gameplay mechanic

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>>2359129
Your loss.

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>>2359129
Yeah, I'll agree that's all reasonable

>>2359146
But it's perfectly reasonable. He got filtered, is too dumb to find buy pardon button and now he's venting.

why the fuck is Serana asexual in ek2

>>2359353
probably so nerds don't hyperventilate when she shows up in court with ticklebritch and about 6 orcish bastards

>>2359359
but in seriousness, if she was willing to sex, she would wind up with an assortment of bastards and at least one STI, CK3 AI is in permahorny mode. Really, her and her mother should probably both be in "disappeared without a trace" death mode.

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When's the Regula Magistri update?

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Feels like so much of the semi-recent stuff in this game is just a complete mystery with little to no documentation.
Like this decision for example. It's been over a year since the DLC released yet there's nothing about this anywhere. It's not in the dev diaries, it's not on the wiki. Shouldn't some autist have written something about this there by now?

It seems to default to asking the Pope which depends on his opinion of you and he can give you 4500 special soldiers for the war only which is very cool but I have no idea what triggers it to cause a crusade or how that crusade involves you if it does at all

>>2359353
In the original mod, she was celibate. It's what the other guy said + the fact she refuses to marry in Skyrim, as a result of Molag Bal rape trauma.

the fuck they did to ek2? mannimarco seems to be missing, blacked systres, hlaalu is now 2 duchies, removed some cool theocratic realms I liked to vassalize
what gives?

>>2359916
I haven't played it in a while so I couldn't say I know they did some weird shit to the systres that people seethed about heavily but they refused to change

>>2359916
>mannimarco seems to be missing
he's tucked inside of a mountain range now, I think about southwest of thunder falls or w/e it's called
>blacked systres
they doubled down on the weird decision to axe that culture from the mod, but considering all the shit they've dumped into Bretons recently particularly Witchman, I'm hopeful that they'll compensate. I know diddly shit about how the Systres was depicted in ESO but what little I did hear was like what, witch knights? Druidy fucks? It seems absolutely baffling that they wouldn't give them something exotic at some point with their own little namelist. If we're going with meme tier names like with the fucking Northman digivolving into Boers, I'd say give them some Manx names alongside Jamaican because FUCK IT.
>Hlaalu is now 2 duchies
rip
>removed some cool theocratic realms I liked to vassalize
I've never played in Morrowind proper, can you circle where they were roughly on the map?

>>2359929
I meant the ones in cyrodiil like zenithar's abbey near leywaiin or that knights of the eight near skingrad

>>2359929
also as for systres there was druid controlled island and there was breton one, which they weren't really that much special from what I recall just more knightly/feudal (though that could be just comparing release eso and late eso which added systres)
there was also prison island but that one didn't had much settled presence

speaking of druuds though IDK if it's actually related to druuds
>...bretons will be getting new faith to represent religion before Empire and Divines
>That's why next update won't be compatible
quoting one of the ek2 devs in their ck3 channel
so that's happening, hadn't seen hide or hair of further information about that myself though beyond it being next patch
>>2359962
ah, shit I didn't even know knights of the eight existed

>>2359353
>character famously refuses to enter relationships
>mod devs take steps to prevent her from entering relationships
what are you, some kind of jokester?

speaking of, what is that mythical mod that stops all realms in EK being equal? I can't find it myself

>>2359976
this one?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454493791
also pretty funny the AI shits itself when women are the main heirs.

JAMS MOD FOR EK2 DISAPPEARD!!!! IM GONA ZERO SUM MYSELF!!!!!!

>>2360116
Does Steam auto deletes the mod from your PC when this happens?

>>2360124
seems so. i tried installing it from the nexus but it doesnt seem to work

>>2360126
nvm got it to work, was missing a path in the descriptor mod

>>2345712
No.

If you want a historical strategy experience CK2 blows CK3 out of water. If you want feudal or government dynamics CK2 blows CK3 out the water. Even if you just want to do a boring tall game that CK3 players are so fond of CK2 tall play blows CK3 tall play out the water too. Nothing added to CK3 over the last 6 years has moved the game any closer to any kind of meaningful strategy or historical realism.

CK3 is a wish fulfilment sandbox game with a medieval theme. You're meant to play it more like the sims, where you just use all the surface level shallow mechanics to achieve whatever stupid outcomes you desire.

>AGOT update
>le dragon bonus is now instant
great another targwank update

>>2359613
There are many things not documented well or on the wiki. Like that syrian nestorian kingdom the dev diaries mentioned last year gives a house or dynasty modifier (cant recall which) witj different options but it still isn’t on the wiki.

>new patch released yesterday
>first update since january
>only notes are for 3 paid mods being added
>no bugfixes, balance changes etc

>>2345712
ck3 byzantines are far better even if most certainly not perfect

my favorite realm in ck2 is the HRE because I like the realm color and the CoA
if I'm playing in Europe and I'm NOT the HRE, then it's my goal to become it, usually followed by taking Rome from the pope and making it my capital

>>2360426
I hear the china expansion messed up the byz government by adding the new treasury system to it which should be good in theory but is broken currently since the byz system wasn’t built with that in mind.

>>2360528
You heard right

>>2360528
I'm gonna be honest idk what's broken with it it seems fine to me
but I don't actually know how it works on a deeper level
I like it conceptually since it's closer to how the byzantines worked since government salaries were super important

>>2360571
Someone earlier in the thread was saying the treasury salary allocation was broken on inheritance

>>2360588
haven't experienced that personally it's not too hard to change it whenever anyway

>>2360588
Among other ways it being broken. My favorite probably involves AI compulsively embezzling and since that is crime killing their own heir.

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Decided to launch a good old Barristan Selmy campaign in CK2 AGOT. Initially the goal was to create a kingdom of the Dornish Marches, but I got caught up in an early revival of dragons and eternal war between an independant Stormland who dragon conquest a lot in Essos, the Iron Throne, and one of my heir getting a child of destiny event but abandonning me to launch an adventurer conquest of Ghis.

Eventually the Baratheon storm king murdered my character because he was at war with my character's mother, and my new character enacted the TOTAL BARATHEON DEATH protocol on the Stormlands, killing 5 of his relative in the field and getting 9 more in his dungeon.

Now that the Iron Thrones lost its dragons I'm just going to fix this bordergore and then moving on to another campaign.

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>>2359353
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>>2359972
>you will never stick your cock in Serana's vampussy, while she sticks her fangs in your neck

>>2360892
what's that from

Are outdated mods still working since the update was just cosmetic shit?

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>the treasure hunt quest that lets you choose a location can be repeated indefinitely as a loot pinata so long as you never send the artifact back
lol
>>2360954
I can vouch EK2 works at least

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>>2360991
should've posted this image instead, clarifying
7 alessian weapons so far
also for some weird reason captcha kept saying "expired" despite just clicking it, had to navigate to banned page and that let me solve some penguin-crossing-a-road captcha, came back and it let captchas solve again. In case anyone else gets that shit.

>>2361000
also, you can reroll quest locations for it
>enter planning
>see shit destination through pestilence and filth
>exit planning, reenter
>destination regenned, could be as close as directly next province over from camp
apparently it'll slip artifacts to you without flare too, I have two daedric armors idk where the fuck I got them

>>2361031
aight just got handed "75 gold" and checking inventory it handed off Mehrune's Razor because of course it did

>>2360926
vanitas

Also the war CBs for duchies that the latins and byzantines are supposed to get after the 4th crusade shown in the dev diary is just not there at all. I don't know if that's a bug on my end for some reason or if it just doesn't exist. Nobody ever talks about it.

I hate nomads

when the fuck are they releasing ACOK and AFFC start dates for AGOT

>>2361373
I can release ACOK for you right now bby

>>2359353
>>2360892
Convert to a religion that allows concubines, abduct her -> make concubine. This causes her to lose the celibate trait. You can then marry her. You can't seduce her, because she's asexual, but you should still be able to get her pregnant over time especially if you give her fertility boosting items (Lamae Bal is also a vampire and has similar fertility penalties and gets pregnant extremely easily).

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>>2360892
>not making your vampire gf beg to suck on your bloody fingers instead
ngmi

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I'll be dumping my AAR today, so filter me if you want to avoid my wordvomit

{Count Eudes Robertine of Anjou}
Eudes, son of Robert the Strong, was the count of Anjou, Samur, and Chartres. Only 10 years old, he had received his counties when his father had been slain by the viking warlord Hæsteinn the previous year at Brissarthe, one that had given the Norsemen the mouth the the Loire while maintaining Brenton control of Anjou's western borders. While it was Frankish custom to succeed the appointments of one's father, Eudes (or Odo) was underage and so his duchy had been confirmed to Hugo Welf, his half-brother through their mother Adelaide, with Eudes and his brother Robert being the Strong's immediate children. Having been confirmed to his father's lands in the Argengau, Hugo would remain mostly in the east, in Auxerre and Nevers, more preferable to the Yonne than the Loire. Thus, Eudes would be under the wardship of his elder half-sister, Bertha, who had some political sense in her: while the Robertines had done well for themselves and Neustria, Eudes was not the cream of Frankish nobility. Amongst possible matches in the realm, there were few eligible maidens who could serve Anjou, but for a low courtier in the Bellacin court of Prince Louis, whom would, at least, provide Eudes an entrance into the future-king's companions. Meanwhile, Bertha was not idle herself, having taken a husband in a miles by the name of Angelbert, that, while common-born, was a decent soldier: one who could teach Eudes what his deceased father could not. Squiring for many years while Roi Charles feuded with his kinsmen in Lotharingia, Eudes was excited when he heard that a great horde of Norsemen had invaded Flanders. Whilst they were unsure if Hæsteinn was amongst their number, the chance to learn what it was to fight the northmen would be valuable experience indeed.

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>>2361785
Instead of cleaning half-uncle Angelbert’s sword of blood, Eudes would merely clean it of rust: Roi Charles was more interested in Lotharingia, and so Eudes would come of age and receive the honor of Hugo’s council without any pagan blood. He would also take his wife, Heloise, who, while 7 years his senior, was appreciative enough of him and his manners.
It wouldn’t be until the winter of 873 that the Frankish armies would finally finish their petty squabbles and make for Flanders, which had already been ravaged by the invading host. Roi Charles’ host would be accompanied by the King of Alba, Causantin Ailpin, who took Eudes under his wing, for this was his first time truly leading the Angevin men. In some way, the delay had proved fruitful: the Norsemen had been starved by the winter, and the swamps of Flanders hadn’t contributed to their supply. They had been forced to Lille, whose castle along the Leie was well stockpiled and defended. Lead by the miles from Bourbon, an excited cavalry charge took the enemy by surprise, and the force was destroyed with few issues--besides half-uncle Angelbert, whose maile now needed to be cleaned of his own blood.

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>>2361786
With parting words from the King of Alba, passing sympathies and prayers unto Bertha, Eudes return to Anjou came with the displeasing news that Hæsteinn had been sighted in Wales, apparently seizing a large portion of its northern lands. Fearing his return with veteran forces, the summer of 874 was spent drilling the Angevin army, for there was much that Eudes had learned from Causantin about fighting the Norsemen. However, by All Saints' Day, it turned out he had another reason to celebrate: Hæsteinn‘s armies had been vanquished the warlord had been forced to flee the field, all but his closest allies abandoning him--or dead!
His lands driven into anarchy, Eudes was eager to test his new forces in Montaigu, seizing advantage over Hæsteinn’s former servants, but also contesting, and overpowering, the Duke of Poitiers, who had also attempted to steal Robert the Strong’s lands. Though suffering a gash across the face, Eudes would overcome Barthelemi and the remaining Norsemen, returning Montaigu into his domain.
With that accounted for, Eudes could then look at other affairs, such as that of his brother, Robert, whom had been in the care of his other half-brother, Konrad Welf of Savoy. Indeed, one of Eudes’ ideas was that he could form an alliance with the King of Alba by betrothing Robert to one of the many daughters that Causantin had talked about. But that arrangement could wait for another day, for Heloise’s pregnancy had been premature, once again, and, to recover her spirits, Eudes sought to give her a comforting feast with all of her friends.
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>>2361788
However, it would be a different kind of feast to remember, for Eudes’ wine had been spiked--cursed with some poison, no doubt planted by that gutless coward, Hæsteinn. How it had happened would be debated by many historians, for it was highly improbable that a viking servant would be able to infiltrate Anjou and deliver such a stealthy blow to his rival’s son, but the undisputed fact was that all blame, and anger, was directed towards the landless Norseman.
{Count Ruprecht Robertine II of Anjou; r.877 - [878]}
Robert, or Ruprecht as Konrad called him, tried to understand the news of his brother’s passing, for he had never met his brother in Savoy. It had only been a few times that he had met Eudes in Auxerre, for Konrad had been attending to some business with Hugo and had brought him along. He had never anticipated becoming the Count of Anjou, but, receiving its honors and appointments from his eldest half-brother, and, while Bertha would remain in control over the house over the Loire, and Konrad would teach Robert to rule his house, to lead men in war, and to hate the man who had killed both his father and his brother.
At least there was one last gift that had been left by Eudes: a betrothal to Der-Ilei MacCausantin, and, with her hand, the armies of the King of Alba, whom would prove worthwhile allies in the years to come.
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More will come later but I have to finish editing

>>2361373
probably after the rest of essos