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TFR teaser edition, DOWN with the NWO
Now with baking!
——-MODDING RESOURCES———
>bit dot ly 3GPdwPD
General Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.
>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Modding
General article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.
>Text Editors/Coding
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
https://www.sublimetext.com/
https://code.visualstudio.com/
Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.
>https://github.com/
Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop
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———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———
>Player Led Peace Conferences
Effectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944
>Toolpack
Gives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560
>Better AI
Swaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283
>Industrial Expansion
Adds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501
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News time!
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The China mod got updated, eight years of resistance bros are you here?
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GENERAL, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST
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>>2367798
Wasn't TNO the mod that inspired a terrorist attack IRL?
By a black white supremacist?
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>Finally a bake without that retard nigger bumping his thread from last year
Bless.
>>2367805
Pretty sure that guy was just bullshitting.
Can't rule out that Mango personally trained him and have more school shooters ready for the midterms though. Alas, he trains innocent children to kill in the name of neoliberalism, so the feds just let him do it. Crazy.
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Dark MAGA update when?
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>TFR
Well the first guy that replied to you is 25% right and 75% a lying faggot.
TFR is closer to KR than TNO, but sadly has its fair share of railroading, waiting and other issues. It depends on where in the world you play and there are definitely parts of the mod that are better than others. Playing in the US means constant action and focuses pretty much exclusively on a huge war, if you just want to have fun and play out a bigger and badder version of KR's ACW you can play there and have a blast. Asia and Europe however will have you wait around until ~2025 for the big fight to happen, and unless you're proactive it can be a pretty shitty waiting game. There's also railroading based on the war outcomes, paths being locked behind who won/who you lost to, and more in both Europe and Asia. Those parts are the most TNO-like.
Where I disagree with the above posted is that there are tons of wars you can get involved in while you wait since the world is burning, so you can easily spend that waiting time grinding generals with volunteer conflicts. Unlike TNO, the mod gives you complete freedom in that regard to fight all over Africa, the Americas and Asia. There's even a world conquest route for one US tag, and the devs seem to have listened to the players when they said they wanted less railroading.
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>>2368011
Post your campaign results if you do anon, too few people post their campaigns.
You might also want to give Red Dusk a try while you're at it. It's another modern mod but focuses on a Soviet VS NATO conflict in a timeline where the Soviets didn't collapse in 1991. It's pretty good.
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>>2368036
About as retarded and reductive as saying that KR is railroaded and pointless as Germany because you always play with the Kaiser in charge and always fight France a few years in. The way it railroads you is that you're locked into certain paths depending on a lot of factors that can be out of your control or require you to do certain things that suck like throwing a war. Not saying TFR doesn't have big issues especially with replayability because holy shit they do but saying that it's more railroaded than the mod that's cutting its last major war and only has politics outside of that (unless you're in Russia) is just objectively wrong.
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>>2367798
>Canada's government posts this
>LikGas AKA Error Log AKA samefagging drama whore instantly changes the title on his anti-TFR hit piece to reflect this
Imagine being this butthurt that you got banned from their Discord.
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>>2368062
I told you niggers this already. They ban anyone that upsets the hugbox. Rightoids have this infuriating psychosis where they pretend their opinions arent political, only people who disgaree with them are, hence why they can spew rightoid garbage unchalleneged but anyone who disgarees is banned for "being political". Same with the subreddit. Its disingenuous egotistical hypocrisy and these scum will be gulaged with the rest of the reactionaries if its ever up to me.
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Is it feasible that Red Dusk could get rebuilt off of TFR? I know the UI submod exists but I'm replaying Red Dusk right now and it is very vanilla in many ways and I think it could benefit from TFR's set up and aesthetics. The economy, the techs, the political tab and the models for example stand out to me after playing TFR, especially with the gfx submod. The tech trees are particularly cluttered with redundant gear which serves no purpose, pic rel is the armour trees compared. It is likewise just as fucked in the air and naval trees, with subs being split into three different variants.
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>if its ever up to me
It never will be.
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>>2368071
>Dying for Likga's horror
Nigga he was banned for being a samefagging drama whore that threatened to dox people and you admitted in the last thread >>2366764 that you were banned for telling someone to die. Bitch, ANY community would ban your asses.
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>>2368071
>/pol/tard thinks he can act like he does on /pol/ outside of 4chan
>finds out
Many such cases
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>>2368080
Total Imperialist Death
Total Capitalist Death
I throw slurs around because anything weaker than that might as well be baby talk on 4chinz, and I have genocidal fantasies because people who presume to have the right to kill innocent people so infuriate and disgust me I feel no reason they should be shown any mercy.
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>>2368103
>I throw slurs around because anything weaker than that might as well be baby talk on 4chinz
I see, naruhodo, so you are an atomwaffen chud.
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>>2368048
I meant railroading as in the overall content is the same and can't really be effected much.
For example it doesn't really matter who wins in the nile river war, the Saudi civil war or the iraqi civil war to any country with content.
In kaiserreich for comparison if the ottomans win the middle eastern war it will absolutely fuck up russia if germany supported them while if the socialists win in america the entente is basically dead.
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>>2368456
>Anything that doesn't propagate my country's state ideology uncritically 24/7 is an extremist outlet that should get shut down
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>>2368406
I don't necessarily think the TFR tech trees are perfect but compared to Red Dusk's it's like comparing a Lexus to a Lada. There really is no valid reason for having seven different tanks producible when the setting is Russia from 2000-2010. It vastly overcomplicates things compared to TFR's "Gen" system. I do think TFR has an issue of some tech being there just to be there but that looks like it will be expanded upon with more futuristic content later in development when the early game is filled out more.
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>>2368456
>155 extremist games
Besides ethnic cleansing and KZ simulator I can't think of any actual fascist games so they probably just have a load of games that just mention fascists like TFR.
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>>2368502
Ethnic cleansing is unironically the absolute worst fps I have ever played. Literal 10 fps for graphics worse than quake, shitty controls and a render distance of 15 feet.
The moon man mod works better as a propaganda piece and that's literally just a shitpost.
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>Charlie Kirk
I hope his assassination gets included in TFR, either as an event before the 2ACW that further divides the nation and fuels tension. Or as something that pushes Trump towards his Dark Mandate path.
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>>2368520
It would make more sense pre 2ACW as OTL trump didn't really care that much and if America was in an active civil a random pundit getting shot wouldn't even be noteworthy.
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The Tombs of Egypt are hiding something magnificent.
https://x.com/Daily_MailUS/status/2037184283631071735
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>>2368569
Of course it says that, it was in Donetsk when the war started and the oblasts broke off from the government in the west. The owner couldn't operate an anime store in a literal war zone and ended up fleeing west. Lots of people ended up being displaced in the war, hardly controversial or outlandish of a story. Don't know if it survived the outbreak of the full scale war, I think it was called Pulse Anime or something so maybe you can look up if it still exists.
ngl if true it'd be funny if you took Kiev as Russia and got an event where a soldier found the anime store that corrupted him as a child.
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yeah im a larpah, what yo gonna do huh?
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>>2368645
When they add content for Ukraine and the Donbass republics they better address this issue. I want to be able to slowly return anime merch to the region. This is what the war is about.
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>>2368682
>collaboration mechanic for Japan involves blanketing the Chinese countryside with top-tier mangas dropped from Kawasaki P-1s
Kino
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>>2368103
>I throw slurs around because anything weaker than that might as well be baby talk on 4chinz
Why didn't we gatekeep and rape your kind back to twitter/tumblr/instagram back in 2016? Newfags are too annoying
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Hello again, TNO: Rises Again is still looking for unpaid art slaves. If you are interested, sign up here: kiw1 (f)arms.st/threads/r-tnomod-and-the-reddit-hoi4-modding-community.8051 6
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>>2368835
Modern "technocrats" in america are basically just reagan era neoliberals with the nationalism filed off. They mainly want mass privatisation and cutting of spending to deal with the national debt.
Sadly the genuine scientific management technocrat movement is basically dead and has been for decades.
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>>2368906
American Technate in TFR WHEN
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Triple T in 1.1, trust
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>>2368906
Howard Scott save us
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Howard Scott, I beg you, come back to life and save us
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>>2367795
FEB26 - MAR26
26th of the Month. Here's a spreadsheet update:
Noteworthy changes:
>BIGGEST GAIN: The Fire Rises with +18 515
>BIGGEST LOSS: Cold War Iron Curtain with -1 420
>Added The Great War Redux to the list as I honestly didn't even know it was still being developed.
>Generally, the bleed of most mods has been stymied. TNO and TGW were both losing subscribers but have managed to gain some this month
>Pax Britannica needs to update ASAP if they want to stop losing subscribers. This is the sixth month in a row they are running a loss
Pretty boring month overall. People are subscribing to mods more often.
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>>2369002
90% of people even if they dislike a mod can't be bothered to uninstall it. The fact that it was losing subs at all while being one of the most well known mods is bad enough.
>>2369030
>be left wing accelerationist
>implement anarcho capitalism
>country collapses into barbarism
>The capitalist state will have withered away and socialism will finally be achieved.
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I NEED NO CREDIT CARD TO BAIT THIS THREAD
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>>2369002
Apathy on the side of the people subscribing to it and people subscribing because it's well known. Honestly the gain amounts to a rounding error in that anons statistics and its positively insane that the joke last year of TFR hitting 600K before TNO might actually happen. When people started saying that TFR was at 480K and TNO was at 685-95K.
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LoL, tfr faggots your game is getting banned in all western nations lalalala
And I am happy! Because your fandom is about e celeb worship in it's totality. You only care about your e personalities, you only care about nick fuentes and Gunther retard balkanmapping, you were never true hoi4 players or even people respectful of history. You gonna get sent to prison now HAHAHAHAH.
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>Wishes that HOI4 will get banned in Canada because of how mad he is about being banned from TFR's Discord server
>TNO being equally unplayable isn't an issue
More proof that TNO shills don't actually play HOI4 and just want to talk about their politics.
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Assuming they ever get it I wonder what post 2ACW NTI content would look like since they complete their main goal by just creating their White ethnostate.
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Who reunites America in this scenario?
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Germany shouldn't be the one to annex France into the EU, it should be the other way around. It's Kraut delusions of grandeur. The French have the nukes, they have the actual hard power, if anyone's doing the annexing it's them.
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>>2369732
That's not how it works, dummy.
Technically it's Belgium annexing both. Obviously, this isn't what actually happens, nor are any of your scenarios since it's not about country A annexing country B (outside of gameplay and player convenience). It's a union both countries are in becoming a federal superstate.
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Please help me remember this mod. It was about a modern-day American civil war scenario like TFR, but most of the mod team was communist, trans, or both, so there were a lot more communist factions than in TFR. I specifically remember there being a communist state in Ann Arbor as well as an Atomwaffen chapter somewhere in the western US (maybe Colorado). The mod was mostly developed in 2020 and suddenly got canceled because the creator kept receiving death threats from nazis or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhb_hIstBpM
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>>2370155
>More Dark Maga
Fucking finally, I need this so bad.
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>>2370153
Probably not. There's no Ann Arbor People's Republic there. Also, the vibes are completely different; what I'm thinking of was a commie mod through and through. There was an obvious bias towards the left-wing tags in terms of (teased) content and portrayal, which is probably part of why nazis harassed the mod team. The mod was canceled before any actual content was released. It was always a more writer-heavy mod to begin with so I doubt there was any code worth salvaging. I haven't cared about HOI4 mods since ~2021, so I thought about asking the Krasnacht people if they knew anything, but apparently that mod's dead too.
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>>2370155
The middle one might be meant to be a dark horse candidate. But who?
All wings of the party sound fun though. They read like they fit thematically. All make sense too within the universe. I hope the update actually delivers when it drops.
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>>2370249
Eldritch Trumpism as the NG+ path...
"I have met some very bad people. None as bad as Trump"
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New TFR update when? I wanna play the mod but I've been waiting for a new update to drop before playing it again.
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>>2370635
1.1 or the Dark MAGA update?
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>>2370640
nta but I'm calling DARK MAGA to be out in late May while 1.1 will be on the 4th of July.
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>>2370643
>DARK MAGA to be out in late May
I could see that happening.
>1.1 will be on the 4th of July.
Would love to see that, but I'm pretty pessimistic when it comes to 1.1's release date. I don't think it'll be out until around the end of the year, would love to be wrong though.
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>>2370640
AYRT.
1.1 has been said would be likely for a summer release. I don't personally believe it's likely, but it's not impossible.
DQRK MQGQ might release before 1.1. This was said be devs in the past at least, take that for what you will.
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I apologize in advance if I anoy anyone by using this thread as bug report area but has anyone else have nato never reforming after the american civil war starts in TFR?
Europe just stays put even after russia ends ukraine due to the euros never intervening.; and then my game crashes.
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Did we ever get an update on TFR's China development situation, have they formed a new China dev team yet?
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Race to 600K monthly update!
TNO has recovered a portion of its lost subs but still hasn't gotten its comp patch out and the Iberia update is completely MIA after being delayed for at least three full months.
TFR makes big gains, netting well over ten times more, many being from Isorrow now making videos about it.
So to recap: last year people started to joke about TFR reaching 600K before TNO. By then TNO had almost 590K and a lead of over 100K on TFR. Somehow, TNO might actually lose this one. No, I didn't believe that they'd actually fuck up a lead like that either for this meme to still be ongoing.
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Can't wait to play as Italyin 2029
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>Neo Libertarian Falangism is coming to TFR
Finally the mod will be playable.
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New AWD general just dropped.
https://x.com/bx_on_x/status/2039021503753154717
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PEPSIMAN!!!!
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Gem
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>>2371485
They also finally added the Hungary rework
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Assuming that AWD rework happens, how much nazi terroorist orgs should be added to the path? Assuming south Florida had a meating of the accelerationist schizos and decided to unite, it ould be more believable, and ISIS got created like this IRL so maybe a bunch of accelrationists uniting isnt impossible
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>>2371708
Their Steam page says that they updated today but I don't see anything on their Reddit about any actual updates. They did update twice last year though. One Antarctica demo and two routes for Brazil. We were supposed to be getting an Iberian rework four months ago but it was heavily delayed.
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That's what we know that they're doing. ayrt is talking about a hypothetical rework.
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>>2371806
PF seems like the most airtight, clean optics, least fed of the nationalist groups especially considering ATW, the militias, blood tribe, etc are openly violent thugs while PF just exists to help people and bring unity IRL as well as in game.
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>>2371706
My issue with the National Front and PF in game is there is no reason why all the factions wouldn't consider ATW hostis humani generis.
The biggest mechanical problem ATW has right now is you can waste all your PP building Legitimacy only for the other factions to declare war on you.
If both of these things were addressed somehow, maybe in different ATW paths, then their inclusion would seem reasonable. But the Accelerationist and Satanist paths seem canonically impossible to coexist in the National Front or the continental united states without being stomped like a bug.
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>The biggest mechanical problem ATW has right now is you can waste all your PP building Legitimacy only for the other factions to declare war on you.
I do think they should change it so if you don't have enough Legitmacy they'll kick you out of the NF and declare war on you like normal, but if you have more than the other members you get a buff during the war and maybe some of their divisions defect to your side as well.
>But the Accelerationist and Satanist paths seem canonically impossible to coexist in the National Front
The enemy of my enemy is my 'friend', it's pure headcanon but I imagine the majority of the AWD members (and especially upper echelon) are executed/imprisoned after the war with maybe only a few exceptions in a Hitlerist NSM America.
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>>2371822
Wars make for odd bedfellows. I can see why others would ally with them out of convenience if nothing else. It's a rabid dog, but one you can dispatch at your opponents. I agree that having a path that isn't suicidal might be a good idea though. I can see a Christian AWD that doesn't nuke the world at least function, although I'm being very liberal in my application of the term there. Accelerationists and Satanists make sense as a definitive hard mode though.
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Personally I cannot wait to kill them all as the KKK.
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Where the fuck is the April Fools update
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>>2371888
yu rike?
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>>2371890
>TFR releases TNO's US update before TNO does
>Except they actually added cool shit and the leaders we want and Emperor Nixon is actually written intentionally based
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>>2371822
The social democratic republican government allied with the mad baron in the russian civil war OTL so it isn't that far off.
>>2371876
They were extremely irrelevant OTL and I'd rather them flesh out a single KKK path than cut it up.
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>>2372054
>Agent S electable in Russia after completing his mission of sending Ukraine's entire male population to their death
>Event about him campaigning for United Russia with his parents who are unironic Putinists in Russia
The TFR Russia team would totally add this.
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Modders got so much lazier, its crazy how any big mod with up to a hundred developers needs an entire year to add a single country's worth of content, smaller mods don't even come out anymore, is HOI4 modding just dead?
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1. they are doing it for free, it's volunteer work
2. standards are way higher than in 2016 where a simple focus tree with 10 events was considered a top tier mod
3. no mod has a hundred "developers"
4. HOI4 is stuck on a shit engine, the newer paradox engine offers way better modding
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>>2372128
>2. standards are way higher than in 2016 where a simple focus tree with 10 events was considered a top tier mod
simple focus tree would be much better than a focus tree that will forever eixst just in the modder´s head. Just how Sons of Mobius will never come out or how EAW stalled and releases at most one update a year or how Collapsing World with its simple focus trees is more fun than any big mod these days.
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>>2372130
While I disagree hard with the post that started this conversation, this point in particular is true and underappreciated. I don't think you need to choose one or the other though you can balance these things out without being like TNO. Several mods have managed to find a balance between quality and actual functionality not to mention being playable at all.
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No retard, they just didn't get a new icon.
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>April 2nd
>Still no TFR April Fools update
Dang, but I guess it's a good thing that they're focused on working on actual content.
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>they're focused on working on actual content.
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>>2372418
Let a nigga have some hope.
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>tried to micro 400 divisions at once
>backfired
>can't keep track of everything
>lost the entire Middle East, half of Africa. half of Asia and a quarter of my army
>forced to battleplan grind my way back
I almost want to commit seppuku for nearly throwing the whole game, but it seems they can't out-meatgrinder me and I've destroyed most of the VKS so I will win, eventually. It'll be an ugly one though. Maybe the ugliest win I've ever gotten. I've never had a game where I nearly lost then salvaged it, it's always either a steamroll or I pick a bad fight and get steamrolled.
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Because it's not a totalitarian dictatorship and even if they wanted to piracy is their national sport so it wouldn't even have any real impact especially since Roskomnadzor or whatever body ends up governing it would be completely inept and stupid and could never even come close to doing what the MSS does. And people like the FSB frankly have better things to do.
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>>2372513
Unlike Bugmen which have been tamed ever since the Qing dynasty, russians have the vile habit of protesting (just like Frenchies), so having distractions is key.
Non ironically, pirate CS servers is what keeps gopniks for killing gov officials in broad daylight
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>>2372628
>russians have the vile habit of protesting
Not really true, if you have ever read any russian literature, all the authors point out how the big issue of russian society and nature is that even if they see what is wrong with the state and society, they will do nothing and rather hide their head into the sand or escape through alcohol.
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Russians stood pretty idle while yeltsin raped them and openly ignored democracy.
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>over a hundred people died in the riot over this
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>just fight the army lol
there were clashes in the streets and in key locations, but yeltsyn had media and the army on his side
desu i feel like trump might pull the same thing in the near future
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>male life expectancy
This is actually where the government priorities lie right now. This is also why they sperged otu about isekai and anime and gays.
The government knows just how big of an issue the population crisis is.
HOI4 is not even close to the level of an issue, compared to the dropping rates of population.
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>desu i feel like trump might pull the same thing in the near future
I don't think the actual military is that curropt as a lot of the top brass have repeatedly expressed concern and distrust over hegseth's management. There will probably be something more low level like a repeat of J6 but I don't think he'd be brazen enough to start killing congressmen.
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Genuinely what the fuck are you even talking about
We are getting fairly off topic though so I'd like to ask which china path did you guys find the most fun in kr (outside of LKMT)
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>>2372723
Liangguang Federalists were pretty good, I wish you didn't have to take Beijing to access the second part of their tree though, why can't I establish a provisional government and start elections when I own both Guangzong and Nanjing?
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>>2372723
I like Tibet. Not because it's good, but because right now I just want a comfy little defensive underdog campaign in the mountains. There are many tags that ar "better", this weird thing just happens to scratch that particular itch right now.
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>>2372775
They patched one of their many unfixed ctd bugs. No, they still haven't fixed most ctds from last year's dlc, but the game no longer crashes when you click on a navy.
Both reduxes fixed all these months ago btw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1s9lw7e/did_we_just_recieved_ an_update/
Even the Reddit is fucking buckbroken.
The joke is that the mod is dead, lel.
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>steam is getting blocked this year
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>>2372807
you actually believe the justification lmao?
it will follow the same pattern of nonsensical demands for data storage to be physically in russia being used a pretense for absurd fees
and when valve obviously refuses to pay gorillion dollars for no reason, steam will get blocked
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>>2372806
>It might be blocked in the future, therefore the statement I pulled out of my ass is right
God that's an insufferable deflection. Just be a normal person and say that you expect it to eventually be blocked, not that you know for sure that it's being blocked at a specific time.
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Are the Collapsing World devs retarded? They put an exclamation mark next to Eastern Karelia, saying it has "a lot of content". I try it out, beat the Soviet military district, get a new tree to fix my economy and army, as well as an annoying mechanic to spend PP (of which I gain almost 0) to integrate one province... and then, after around 3 years, I do the final focus, and it... annexes me into Finland, which doesn't even have content, ending my game.
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>>2372919
>make a game about an event that, historically, went until 1945
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>>2372918
Older versions of OWB had very little of this because it's a smaller world, you have fewer divisions, the divisions contain fewer things, and there are also way fewer people, ideas, resources and other performance hogs. Late game inevitably gets laggy on anything huge like a globe-spanning war with millions of soldiers in the field because of how HOI4 is coded. So the solution has already been found: create scenarios that aren't as likely to cause things to slow down, or download a mod that limits divisions and other thing that makes the game perform thousands of hourly checks.
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>>2372924
Something the AI does if you spectate them is constantly split up armies into as many generals as possible, repeatedly.
AI is always swapping generals which makes no sense because of how the game works and that also creates lag.
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>tfw the main faction of the only mod I can't fucking talk about here got a complete overhaul as an april fools day joke
>an april fools day joke that has has more depth than most mods get before getting thrown in to teaser hell
how the fuck is this possible? just look at this starting treat of a secret april fools day joke path
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>depth
The entire tree is shit. Daybreaker and NMM would never even entertain idea of working with commies.
It is a waste of a perfectly good idea that should have been used in the exile path,where they embrace these alters as last ditch effort to reclaim the homeland. The entire tree is just dev seethe about people wanting that path because it would be fun.
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And some dynamic localization for the first Russian focus, there are more for Serov, Alexander Men, and other special unifiers by the way. National focus loc is being worked on, it'll be followed by event localization and then actual focus effects.
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>2024+2
>Still no Imperial Nippon content in TFR
Owari da.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA0Hm8lp1lk&list=RDyA0Hm8lp1lk&start_r adio=1
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>>2373176
This might be bullshit, but in the aftermath one guy who claimed to be an affected dev said it was over the revanchist content. Having China invade Taiwan and then get beat seems like a contributing factor too, personally. Simply acknowledging that Taiwan exists and is separate from China alone is touchy, though I don't think that caused the team to be disbanded.
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>it was over the revanchist content
>Xi saw the event of him crying in a run down apartment and immediately proceeded to shut the team down
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>>2373192
Another theory which has no hard proof but FEELS right is that it was over the general that coups him. He was literally purged shortly after the China team was disbanded. It could be a coincidence because Xi and Xi but the timing man...
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>>2373389
Looking forward to playing the Total CraKKKa Death content when 1.1 drops in seven years.
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Possibly the best icon ever.
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>>2373388
I quite enjoyed tard wrangling as schleicher to turn germany into a military powerhouse. Admittedly though I did use the wiki as a guide for event chains to get the best outcome.
>>2373389
Phoneposting but I really love the entire stalin tree for kavkas in red flood. Just the entire agitprop style is such a vibe. I found a page that's filled with it too https://thecharnelhouse.org/tag/vladimir-mayakovsky/
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>>2373389
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>>2373477
Literally the only good thing to come postpanzer besides Tabby and Guandong.
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>>2373536
Both the Aryan Brotherhood and Tabby were in the mod on release and the nudevs hate them. They've tried and failed for years to sabotage them but all they achieved was deleting the unique ideologies for AB and neutering some Tabby events. They're as incompetent as they're vile.
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>>2373577
It really captures what the nudevs are about especially after they achieved total power within a year of Guangdong being released. It should serve as a warning to other mods never to let people as awful as Lamounier and Mango get anywhere near a project.
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>>2373485
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Happy Easter, hope the October 16th path ends up being good.
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Good things indeed.
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And the KdN menu, currently under construction.
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>>2373797
Not jokes, the plan is if Germany wins the 2WRW but doesn't push up to the Urals, Putin will appear in charge as the leader of a post collapse warlord state in Beloretsk as a nod to the IRL Mt. Yamantau complex which is just north of the city of Beloretsk. The Black league one is if the Black League collapses, the Nazi one is if the Aryan Brotherhood collapses with an appropriately Deytschified name.
Currently, he's the only character planned to change based on the warlord who unified Russia, as the collapse will be a generic scenario with a mishmash of warlords and ideologies. There are more portraits on the way such as a Hyperborean one and a Holy Russian Imperial one. It's mainly as a jab pointed at Pacifica having Putin's parents die and thus him never be born.
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>>2373791
Seeing as we're getting gorbachev nazism will we be getting yeltsin nazism?
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>>2371036
In case anyone cares, there's another flood of leaks over in /tno/.
No, almost nothing is going to be playable. Yes, for some reason parts of Russia get nuked before the warlord unification wars even happen because fuck you. Yes, Iberia confirmed to be stalled. Yes, it's mostly just skeletons that sit around and do nothing. Yes, thousands of man hours went into this. Yes, the mod is dead.
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>>2373944
They're not from /vst/. They sound like purged ex-devs that want to fuck over their old cliques. It's pretty common with TNO devs. They're a sad and pathetic lot. This is also why all their shit leaks. You just know some shit went down on Discord that left someone butthurt and vengeful.
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>Absolutely fucking everything from TNO leaks including a full Git branch
>This happens several times a year
Ever notice how this happens to literally no one else? Seriously, how do you fuck up so much, make so many people hate you, that people on your team just constantly leak everything as part of ongoing clique disputes?
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Same but I also care about OWB and want TFR to release more Russia content. Give me lolbert, cyberpunk, and NazBol Russia.
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>>2374050
The Rapture shit looks kino.
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>>2374074
Whichever aligns itself best with China and possibly Russia would be likely. Doesn't have to be Octoberists IRL. Anyone except the anarchists at least have a decent shot. Jacobins might be the most likely since there are people in that faction that can work well with several Russian and Chinese factions and both countries might see them as a more stable puppet. You can make a good case for the other two paths too, I think.
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>>2373990
When mods explode, they usually lack proper content built or said content will be pushed out eventually.
TNO is a weird case because they keep bleeding coders who make playable content, then force them redo it again and again, most of the leaked content had playable builds, most which never saw light
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>>2374097
American civil war sounds fun, but the amount of tags seems bloated. Do we really need like 10 tags fighting over one (1) state
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>>2374098
They also have a unique problem in that they can't get new coders because people who like to code for HOI4 actually like HOI4. Crazy, right? Meanwhile TNO is deleting all wars and gameplay and then ask coders to make elaborate games within games about tax policies.
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>>2374146
Yeah, if we take the "ideal" figure of Bolsonaro, the devs can cook some pretty interesting things, specially if the coup and the purges end up happening instead of being state propaganda
Milei building his ancap utopia and buying the whole continent seems cool as fuck too. Throw Paraguay there and make it a merc/smuggler nation who can use money to lobby for action
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>>2374099
Yes. A second American war has to be a shitshow because that's what it'd be in real life. You need to account for regional political differences, rural vs urban, ethnic differences, cultural differences, and so on. The US is 50 countries in a trench coat, and most large states are 3 countries in a trenchcoat as well.
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>>2374153
>has to be a shitshow because that's what it'd be in real life. You need to account for regional political differences, rural vs urban, ethnic differences, cultural differences, and so on.
this all applies to brazil, add in rampant government corruption and cartels having access to military hardware
Brazil has around 200m people I think.
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>>2374092
>amazonian native uncontacted tribes get 3 tags in a TFR civil war before GTA 6
Stupid jungle injuns wielding bows + arrows IRL would NEVER organize and overthrow the huemonkey government. They don't even know what the brazilian government IS.
Those redskins need to have 6 debuffs on education, industry, attack/defense, GDP, research, that take 10 70 day focuses MINIMUM to un-fuck.
That's before they are ALLOWED to start their government tree.
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>economy of the uncontacted amazonian tribes
We're talking about a combined $500,000 2020 USD and that's being super generous. Literal hunter gatherer societies with 0 cultural history, 0 diplomatic influence, 0 wealth, 0 strength, somehow own vast swaths of the country of brazil. In your fucking dreams dude.
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>Stupid jungle injuns wielding bows + arrows IRL would NEVER organize and overthrow the huemonkey government. They don't even know what the brazilian government IS.
They actually know. A huge issue with your natives/Índios, is that they want technology, they want liberty to sell and build on their land, and more, since they have internet, frequent visits, and whenever the gov fucks up and people start to encroach on their land, burning all up, they go to a random toll station, and start raiding cargo.
90% of our natives ride on huge pick-ups, way more expensive than your average bruzillian shitbox car, they even post their lives on Instagram and whatnot. They are literally stuck in their reserves because the gov has this twisted view on them and pushes for the human zoo shtick. You are right on the economy though. A good chunk of our north is a wild-west, final frontier typa shit, with private armies, ownership of the land based on force, and a huge influx of cartel guns through Colombia and Venezuela
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Kino, anyone complaining about getting extra content is a tranny with a shit pc
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>>2374219
You might as well get hyped about TNO toozers if that's your attitude about it. Given what the team's produced so far, that thing in the toozer will either never release or be a highly watered down experience where a lot of the bloat tags don't matter at all. We're simply asking that they manage their scope a bit better and have the tags that exist on the map be more consequential. Happy to be proven wrong but I've been through this song and dance before and it rarely ends well.
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>>2374299 (me)
correction: it's the chinks and 2 Brazil mods
TFX, Southern Giant and Arde O Sul coming together to bring LATAM content.
Southern Giant has had a demo out for a while on the workshop.
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>>2374136
Ironically, 2018-era Kalterkrieg had a really fun set up for South America
>Brazil is going to collapse
>Anarchist Argentina and Syndie Chile being the last remnants of the Internationale, with Lib Uruguay in their alliance
>Greater Colombia seized Venezuela
>Peru-Bolivia exists
>Paraguay wants to seize the opportunity to do shenanigans again
>Ecuador is torn between submitting to Argentina to avoid being conquered by Colombia, and also eyeing to take over their lands taken by Peru
Of course, they threw that away for just OTL borders and ideologies with switched leaders, nothing ever happens.
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Am I the only one that wants to play Boogaloo Boys in 1.1?
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>no Virginia Spring 2020 event
I don't understand why this was retconned from OTL lore either.
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>Am I the only one that wants to play Boogaloo Boys in 1.1?
No I'm looking forward to playing as them as well. My play order is probably going to be
>Mike Ma
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I'm writing a story for a fallout esque first person action adventure rpg shooter game set in the TFR timeline but have been the laziest piece of shit imaginable with finishing it.
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>>2374376
An RPG set in Catharsis Europe would be kino.
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>>2374306
No, some of them probably do, but a huge chunk of them want the freedom to travel and enjoy the modern life. A chunk of them do, in a way, since they have acess to internet and whatnot.
Since our cartel problem is getting out of hand, some criminal syndicates started to cut deals with the Índios to set up training grounds and rally points in their villages, often ending with the sub 30 pop joining said cartels due to the prospects of an easier life (and whores). We have literally narco natives militias and I wonder why no one made a tag with it yet
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Anon, are you actually retarded or something? Rio de Janeiro is the name of a city AND a state, what is shown in the toozer is that the state been partitioned into a bunch of cartels and militias, those are multiple cities, ranging from Santos to Petropolis, if you cross reference the teaser to a map of RJ, you will see where each super-region fits
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>This is the future OTL trump wants for Iran
kek
2nd European Civil War took until 2032 to pop off.
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>China warlord content delayed indefinitely because Xi is a fag
It's over.
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>Entire europe loses their right to have a focus tree, becomes russian puppet/client state
This outcome is so fucking boring.
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>>2374537
Sorry if this is stupid but could you turn on tdebug and get the tag of one of the breakaway states. I just want to find the event for that peace deal to fire it myself.
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>>2374655
It's planned but not in, they're gonna have Military Junta, Communist, and Capital paths. They also originally had a civil war (there's even a super event for it), but I don't know if that's still going to be implemented or if it's perma scrapped.
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>>Entire europe loses their right to have a focus tree, becomes russian puppet/client state
They just got curbstomped and conquered by Russia, no shit they'd lose their autonomy. That was the winner takes all war and they lost.
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>>2374050
Yep
It was in the leak tg channel but Putinist Svetov and Libertarian conscription are genuinely hilarious. Former is also kino in a way. You can see the light dead in his eyes. No reforms for Russia, eveyr road leads to Putinism
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I was trying to find the event myself but I couldn't find it.
>Persian Reconstruction Government
PER
>Balochistan Liberation Army
BAL
>Arabistan Republic
QEM
>Hormuz Protection Zone
ZET
>Republic of Lorestan
RIF
>Revolutionary Army of National Redemption
AFA
>Republic of Southern Azerbaijan
AOI
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Alright, did more digging.
It's not in the event folder. It's in the "on_actions" folder.
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Oh so that's why they call it the "Rubble"
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>>2374943
Honestly my favorites for those kinds of setups are ones where I set myself up to be surrounded and attacked from all sides. Any tag where you face overwhelming odds at the start and have to grind down an enemy works. I find that mods that try to specifically go for these things often miss the mark. The only ones that really seem to work are the Endsieg style of mods that start you out as Germany when shit's about to completely die.
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>>2374970
nayrt but in KR I found that Georgia and being pitted against Savinkov was a rough match-up. Another you might want to go for is NatPop Finland (who have no natural allies, can purge all non-Finns from the army and will go to war with Russia). Sweden can also hit that sweet spot if you join the RP and set up Germany to fail against syndies from all sides. Then you're beset on all sides and have to be the lone torchbearer for European monarchies. It's similar to the Ukraine experience but you have much less manpower and resources to work with. Another fun one imo is Tibet and going up against all of China. You have no industry, very little manpower, are backwards, but you have a good mountainous starting position.
I can't really remember which, but there are some EaW paths that are good underdog scenarios too. If you can put up with the subject matter, I think they have their own thread on the Ponyfag containment board. You might find some helpful answers there too.
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>>2374970
One hard mode tag I enjoyed in KR that's quite unique is the Caribbeans as syndies. You're surrounded by major naval powers and your allies are across the world and likely won't be able to help you at all. You have very little manpower and a lot of it feels like having to help a distant ally hold down as many enemy troops as possible.
Two tags that might scratch the same itch are Trump in TFR and Atomwaffen in the same mod. Trump starts out as an underdog in the CW (especially if you lost the election) and has a fury mechanic that strengthens his forces the more of the midwest gets gobbled up by Biden's liberal hordes. It's at least built with the comeback kid factor in mind. Atomwaffen on the other hand is the weakest playable faction in America. Their army's weak, their manpower is bad, their economy is horrible, their industry is awful, everything about them just sucks because they're Neo Nazi ISIS and just want to burn the country down. All your allies - if you even got any - will inevitably turn on you too. It's definitely an uphill struggle and you can easily find yourself in a situation where you're facing overwhelming odds even late in the war.
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>>2375001
>Trump starts out as an underdog in the CW (especially if you lost the election) and has a fury mechanic that strengthens his forces the more of the midwest gets gobbled up by Biden's liberal hordes.
You're also racing against the clock a bit since you've got to try and take out Biden and the NF asap before the APLA consolidates its power in the West and comes after you. If you get tag teamed by the APLA and UoA/NF you're fucked.
>Atomwaffen on the other hand is the weakest playable faction in America
They're the hardest tag in the mod as a whole, doubt that'll ever change as well with the exception of maybe the Aeonic Revanchists if they ever get content.
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>>2374992
I am still disappointed by how bad the Quiskling tree was. They even refferened his unique ideology. But then they didn't even give him option to actually unite the Germanics like he wanted. And just gave him the viking vinland memes just like PDX. It is weird that only Ragnarok Circle can unite Germanics, when Quisling literally wanted to do that as well.
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>>2375006
You can defeat APLA and NF desu but it's only relatively easy if you took out Biden first and without PF gaining lots of ground there because then you can pick off NSM/AWD/LOS while mounting defensive campaigns against the others.
I like that the race against time with Trump is a double edged sword because on one hand soloing Biden is hard, but if you wait for the NF to invade him and divert all forces then you risk being in for a tough multi-front war against a stronger NF. Overall, it's a very fun campaign, definitely my favorite tag in TFR in terms of gameplay.
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>>2374969
Hmm might try that.
Think in Red Flood Ill try to get the AI for USA to join the Entente and attack Britain a year after attacking Germany to mimic Barbarossa and let Yugoslavia join the Rotfront. Also Israel starts off like that too no?
And for OWB there is TV Town? And maybe the legion if you let Caesar die of brain tumor and having the civil war while you fight the NCR? I did like the Mojave BOS for this. Cause you will have to fight the Legion and NCR even though its a bit lacking in flavor.
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My issue with AWD is that the National Front carries the war HARD. And then PF and NSM will just be so overmanned from overproducing divisions that they'll steamroll you in the National Confrence if you play on Veteran or Elite. Especially Elite since the debuffs are so bad you'll have over -100% factory production meaning you cant even produce PA Luttys or Garrison anything to handle resistance so you'll have no way to core occupied areas. That means manpower dries up real quick. Basically impossible.
UoA is so Braindead and nerfed that the positioning in the middle doesnt matter as ACG you'll sweep up Biden before you even have to worry about a 2 front war from the APLA and NF. Especially since Abbotts Texas always wins so you dont need to worry about Red Texad or Nationalist Texas attacking from the South. You also get the Western Army to join too and the Chicanos dont do anything once they win their region. In fact most of the time New Mexico wins and they'll join you. So thats 3 allies to cover your flank by the time the NF and APLA attack.
I will say this tho. The 1EW does scratch this itch ever since Italy got that massive buff in their focus tree. Now they do a ton of Naval Invasions. But again all it takes is to cap one of the Baltic countries and its a free ride to Poland.
China SHOULD be like this especially if the entire PDTO gobbled every potential ally, but your so OP that it doesnt matter.
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>>2374983
>I can't really remember which, but there are some EaW paths that are good underdog scenarios too.
Expansionist Our Town comes to mind. Also Velvet Olenia vs the Changelings without Equestrian intervention and then there's Harmonist Crystal Empire with Serovian Stalliongrad, first in the Great War, then against a Lunar/Solar Empire.
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>>2375053
>China
Here's an idea: make a personal mod that gives at least India but possibly all of the PDTO massive increases in ai aggressiveness. Then you'll constantly get pressured by hundreds of millions of infsntrymen 24/7. I'm sure you can think of other use cases too.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention but RF Churchill IS GREAT for this itch but ONLY if the AI for Britain declares war and you have OBJECTIVE:SURVIVE scenario where the entire Entente naval invades you and you have to hold out for a certain number of days before Britain signs a white peace and recognizes the Raj
I havent tried EaW yet so if theres a tag anyone wants to recommend for that comeback miracle id also appreciate that.
Same with:
Iron Curtain
Pax Britannica
Road to 56
Thousand Week Reich
Millennium Dawn(though I hear this is just economy numbers autism and theres no real action cept maybe Saddamist Iraq)
TNO there is the Russian Warlords i guess. Hardest ones i remember was Amur and Komi the rest dont really have to worry and are linear in their unification. Dirlewanger is the obvious choice but you'll be railroaded into getting eaten by the larger unifier because he dies unless the game bugs out and he is immortal like what happened in my game. But even then like with AWD in TFR you are just so weak and undermanned that you'll get steamrolled by Zhukov.
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>>2374831
I played multiple games where they do though.
What triggers it usually is Iran intervening in Iraq's civil war and winning.
In my most recent game, Germany attacked Iran and Iran held out so long that Russia got involved and dragged them into the BTO.
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In case anyone wonders what the current status of TNO is: their Ukraine lead was either purged or left and their head janny is now reworking Ukraine, the fifth tag he's been put in charge of. This is part of the reason for the Iberia update not being out yet as the Ukraine content will be bolted on to it.
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>>2375171
So far that's given us shit like Hitler cucking to Swedish leftists and telling them that he welcomes them protecting their welfare state from German aggression with nuclear weapons so I don't know if that's a plus.
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>>2375149
Let me guess:
>Ukranny must survive and overthrow the N*zi menace by secretly subverting the occupation just enough to not get caught and suddenly overnight turn into a liberal social democracy similar to OTL
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>>2375180
Dunno. The old plans for the minigame being introduced wasn't meant to lead to anything. You'd still end up being railroaded into a German win state because the Germany lead can't tolerate dents in the plot armor. It's possible that might change now but no one knows how cringe it'll be.
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>>2375180
Why do russians and ukrainians even hate each other that much when they're basically the same race and both live in shitholes ran by oligarchs.
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Do we know how the secessionists are going to work yet? Like does the NWTI and CSA just need to hold out long enough and inflict enough damage on whatever unifier is left until they just leave them alone and reunify America without them?
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>>2375224
Didn't think I'd live to see the day when I'd miss Corn.
>>2375226
It's more one-sided on the ethnic side. Some Ukrainians convinced themselves that their Russian accent with Polish loan words is actually a Germanic language and think that the other guys are subhumans. It's just retarded-ass Balkan-tier nationalism. The more widespread hatred is more political and driven by more comprehensible ideals. I'm sure a lot of that's stupid and disagreeable too, but I don't think most of them actually believe in the race LARP shit.
Also no I don't root for any side I want them to stop killing each other.
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>>2375246Yeah, I'm 99% sure that's the Mojave Outpost. Every NV location is ingrained in my brain.
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>APLA "Anarchists" support a state
Do the devs know what the fucking word "anarchy" means?
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The Jacobins would be a non-starter realistically. The minute they start seeing Russia backing the National Front their credibility is donezo - hell, everyone except the NeoSocs would probably want them shot as 5th columnists.
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>>2375256
KEEP
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>>2375258
>KEEP
>AMERICA
>BURNINGIt's kinda odd only LDPR Russia can have this policy towards the 2ACW, you'd think more of America's enemies would also just want to see the nation burning for as long as possible.
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>>2375260
The difference stems from the fact that all of America's big enemies have a faction or two that they'd probably want to support - whereas the LDPR is just actively anti-Americanist, though I do think if said faction fell, or didn't win the battle for influence - a lot of them would indeed just want to extend the bloodbath.
Iran has the NoI in the BBR, China/Norks have the APLA, Russia has the isolationists, ect.
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>>2375286
They're not strong. You probably had good templates but were grinding against bad terrain + too many divisions. Usually the thing a good frontline needs is a shit ton of fodder so the tanks and larger divisions can push easier.
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>>2375295
well they put out good numbers, austria really helped to hold russia while i was dealing with france and spain
i followed this guide with holding infantry and a stupid expensive SP arty for pushing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McMOvxxTVf0
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>>2375484
If you used those templates in that video you have a really solid base to work with.
You probably didnt concentrate your tanks well enough.
Other than that, you could probably cut down the SPA slightly and produce more of those units since 1000 soft attack is ludicrous in single player.
It's been a while since I've played KR though so maybe things have changed. That card mini game looks retarded tbqh.
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>>2375576
The card game is a leftover from the time when TNO was popular. You can see its influences down to the campaign jingles and it's made the path age poorly. Not really their fault though, I don't think this type of content would've aged as poorly if TNO hadn't become a joke.
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The reds in fact, did not know what hit them
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>>2375639
I think you'd like this mod. It adds actual damage to another country when you bomb the shit out of them.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319664808
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I just saw this in /tno/ and it makes me want to kill myself.
TFR devs, if you're reading this: I'll fucking slit your throats if you go down the same road as this chucklefucks.
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>>2376068
erm the american civil war seems a bit UNREALISTIC because nazis would NEVER take over New England and Michigan and Florida and stuff
we need to make sure that can NEVER happen or else they get locked into an inescapable fail state because fascism always loses and love wins just like drumpf in 2020
mkay folkx?
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>>2376094
So trve bestie.
Delete 2ACW.
Replace it with a deep, cutting J6 minigame that educates the chuds on democracy.
That's how you make Barbarossa sims fun. Not with gameplay, but with preaching about mainstream politics.
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>>2376160
Can you shut up? No one cares. These posts have zero value. It's been two fucking years and each time I go see what's up it's always nonsense like this >>2376119. This dude is actually clinically retarded and I'm tired of pretending it's okay to flood threads with this shit. It makes so angry I want to either go kill somebody or just commit suicide since nothing is going to get better for me anyway and I'll can't go back to the fun we used to have
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>>2376163
Commit suicide then. If you get so mad that you cry and scream over someone disagreeing with you on /vst/ then you might as well call it quits instead of raising the post count even further to tell us how sick you are of your own life.
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>>2375249
How does anarchy make sense. If you established anarchy in a state wouldn’t a centralized real state just come in and take over or are all the lazy tranny anarchists supposed to form militias and beat a real organized disciplined army lol
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>>2376385
Eehhhh
The wars of unification and fighting Japan are entertaining enough, if you can deal with awful terrain, no industry and shit templates for 2/3s of the game.
The politicking is dependent on what tag you’re playing. All tags have some form of opaque event chain that determines what ideology you go down, but with newer tags it’s easier (in comparison) to see who’ll you be going with. But if you have a specific guy in mind you want in charge and don’t know the tag like the back of your hand, checking the path guides every 5 minutes is going to be annoying.
Only the recently updated tags (LKMT, liangguang, yunnan, shanxi) have any unique post-war content. Even the unique content is pretty short, only lasting for 3 years or so. The generic tree the rest get is even shorter.
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>>2375226
>why do people hate each other when they are basically the same race that live in equal shitholes
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>>2375226
yeah, i wonder who could be behind it
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>>2375249
There is still certainly a degree of organisation even in an anarchic state. That has been a thing ever since the beginning. Go read about how the actual CNT-FAI organised Barcelona during the spanish civil war. There is plenty of manifestos and literature on this. Spoiler, it usually works on the mutualism.
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>>2376649
currently playing hungary, picrel is the paths
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>>2376804
>TFR died the day kaliningrad animal was released.
They released the Cognoscenti update afterwards which was kino tho. There's also the Brussels update which wasn't major, but added some nice stuff to early game Germany/France/Russia.
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>Burt Colucci is now an Aryan beast
It's time TFR devs, add the weight change mechanic to Colucci's NSM. We talked about it in the thread before and now there's an IRL incentive to add it to the mod.
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>>2376818
>Burt implemented the /fit/ Burt mechanic IRL before the TFR devs did
You lazy fucks aren't releasing 1.1 before this core feature is added. Get to fucking work!
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>>2376829
Probably not 4chan, but online discourse definitely affected him. He's online a lot and has a media presence, but he seems pretty boomer-coded and doesn't really seem like the type that'd go here. IIRC he's barely aware of TFR. He knows about it, but he just reacted by saying that it sounded cool and moved on with his life by the sound of things. Undoubtedly, to continue lifting weights and not let nerdy fucking videogames played by limp-writsted faggots who can't bench even a tenth of what he can get in the way of his quest for the Aryan ideal.
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As one of the most important player in Asia theater. Japan will receive new skeleton content in RAD as well.
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God I love killing chuds. I specifically love isolating and killing every single unit before taking the last VP to maximize the death count. I'm not interested in prisoners.
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>>2375149
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>>2375214
His Ukraine mini rework leaked. None of the mechanics being added in the next update will matter. Germany will still always be railroaded to win. They don't mention the nuke so it's possible that Germany will just get cheats like in Britain because people made fun of them for nuking their own breadbasket to save it. Only major new addition is that one of the old CW leaders has been brought back as a post-CW leader.
No refunds, chuds.
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>>2377130
Bruh how fucking retarded are you? The Texas national guard and local army is going to overwhelmingly be immigrants that wanted the army to pay for all their shit and didn't expect to fight a day in their lives. Stop LARPing, retard.
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cognoscenti is basically what p*tin and his kgb deathcult imagine themselves to be
including the stab in the back from party/establishment
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>>2377129
How would ukraine even win a war against germany, the absolute best they could do is try to negotiate an end to the worst parts of slavery in exchange for submission.
Also the flowchart shows how a rosenbergite ukraine can get independence.
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>>2377165
>How do you win
By winning.
>Noooooo you aren't supposed to a weaker country can never beat a stronger country
TNO devnigger mentality.
>Uhm but you can become an independent ally of Germany, chud
Yeah so the civil war is largely useless and you have no reason to play anyone except for the RK because all roads lead to them winning because the TNO devs have no idea what they're doing.
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>>2377168
>By winning
Winning against germany required exploits like buffing heydrich pregame to make the other warlords weaker and reinforcement memes.
>TNO devnigger mentality.
Tibet had a better chance against the PRC than Ukraine does against Germany. I think it's fair for the devs to make german victory an inevitable outcome.
>the civil war is largely useless
They should probably give ukraine a nat spirit and a couple of news events for partisans controlling large parts of the country after a german invasion. Requim could also make it so ukraine has an uprising during the 2wrw if they won the ucw.
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>>2377210
>Just call them the Deep State
They aren't the deep state. It's not just a group of bureaucrats.
>Illuminati
I for one am OK with the fact that they aren't just making a Deus Ex knockoff which is what the literal Illuminati likely would've been. Instead you have rivaling ultraglobalists like them and the WEF. I think it's a neat touch.
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>>2377224
>I can't win
Sounds like you're bad at the game. Besides, if what you're telling us is true, why did the TNO devs have to let Germany cheat to win? They literally gave them an instant win button in case they were losing. I don't want to sound too mean but c'mon you should know that this is wrong. Plus people love underdog fights. The things you say applies to countries like Poland and Finland in vanilla too but people still like those challenge runs.
>Requiem should add an uprising
That's actually a good idea. Then the CW would matter and would impact the really big conflict later. Of course TNO itself will never add that war and you won't even be able to reach Ukraine in their planned version so they just shoot themselves in the foot again.
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>>2377280
been broken in TFR too for years since it got rewoooooorked, broken in vanilla, broken in TNO, I can't even name a single mod that fixes croatia. Maybe road to 56 but I haven't checked. not a croatian nationalist they just have interesting geography but good luck playing around it.
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tfr could use some reactivity desu
china got raped twice before i even started to do anything, but narrative stuff still mentions them
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>>2377349
i did win pretty fast, but i still had to go through the entire focus tree and new minigames
also is cognoscenti supposed to get embargoed by everyone?
i somehow created 110% world tension, 50%+ of which were from declaring on a bunch of mexican cartels
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>>2377633
not him but: speaking from 2000 hours experience, 5 factories on motorized is overkill in 99% of playthroughs.
Even when I use motorized in my units 2 factories from game start is enough since the AI rarely has enough soft attack to dent moto defense.
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Why don't MIOs transfer to "break away" nations?
Can someone explain this interaction in HOI4 to me?
>Play [x] nation
>Set up MIOs, gain meaningful progress
>alternate history path spawns [xy] variant of [x] nation
>all MIO progress is wiped on tag switch
Why does technology transfer and not MIOs?
Same thing happens with Intel Agency upgrades.
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>>2377736
Depends in what you build your army around but yeah unless you're shitting out motorized divisions and going hard into a speed tactic then you don't need too many factories on motorized. Another reason beyond just their cheapness and relative resilience is that any tag that surrenders to you is going to have a billion of them in their stockpile for you to steal.
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All the flowcharts and guides are outdated.
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>three (3) steps in the guide
>still fucks it up
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>>2377891
I hope they don't ruin Lafayette in his rework, the stuff they teased looks promising. But I like him as is a lot (minus the God awful debuffs you can't get rid of and no 3EW victory super event, but this goes for all the 3EW paths).
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I saw that and I have mixed feelings about it, I like the idea of Lafayette representing the disgruntled French youth and how any young Frenchman can be under the mask. Hopefully the guy they pick to be Lafayette at least is inline with that idea and still wears the mask and goes by the name 90% of the time.
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>not even a month after the April fools update
>Storm Kingdom finally gets actual content
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>>2378072
That's a given if you've played the mod for 3 seconds. The entire premise of the mod is "oh man what if corona was extra extra bad" when every sane american knows we got locked up for what was literally the flu that made you sleepy for a week and that 99.9% of the deaths were from nurses following the CDC guidelines which said to give anyone with a pre existing lung condition coming into the hospital Remdesivir and then to ventilate them.
When you give anyone Remdesivir (which is an antibiotic) they will have trouble breathing. Remdesivir's #1 side effect is shortness of breath. When you ventilate someone the intention is to have them wean on and off of it so that they can regain control of their breathing. Giving someone Remdesivir and then putting them on a ventilator would prevent them from weaning off of the ventilator at all, which is a death sentence. Every medical professional at every hospital in the USA declared they were "Just following the CDC guidelines".
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At the same time the CDC declared they "Just set the guidelines." and that it was up to the individual hospitals whether or not they were going to follow those guidelines, thereby absolving them of all responsibility.
In 2024 President Joe Biden gave Anthony Fauci a blanket pardon for murdering through medical malpractice 1.2 million Americans.
All of that is to say that any mod team that goes "oh man what if covid was REALLY EXTRA BAD" when the death toll had nothing to do with the sickness in the first place. The entire premise hinges on insane authoritarian lockups resulting in total economic freefall (which Trump has not fixed and cannot fix) being justified somehow, because they're authortarian fucktrash.
>>2378039
So I say to this anon, wtf are you doing in their insane authoritarian space? Discords generally don't even work as a wiki now. Try github. Why are you wasting your time talking to the mentally ill?
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>>2378105
Point me to the wiki.
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/United_States_of_America
Oh, you meant this one? You meant the wiki that doesn't detail what each branch of focuses does for any american unifier nation? The one where you would have to go into the discord to ask for more detail?
>inb4 "erm erm erm erm erm erm erm erm but you said github"
Their github isn't public? Great. Copy the mod directory to a git like program and make your own instance and then when it gets updated on the steam workshop you can compare changes between the two directories with a program like Meld. Compare the sparknotes of the change that can be found in the mod and on the steam workshop page with the actual changes in the files and you can see every single major change which functions like a wiki and very much still uses the git software. This works for any mod including TFR.
Brainlets like you should be shot and killed on sight
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>>2378121
How about instead the mod devs just tell me the ones that actually impact the nation in any way when 99/100 focuses in a tree do absolutely nothing (except slightly change 1 modifier) and 1 focus in 100 declares war on your former allies or removes you from a faction or annexes a nation? Especially in a branching focus tree with an entire novels worth of flavor text.
>It explains in detail what every focus does you literal insane person.
no it doesn't look at the image I posted where I show that is not the case with unexplained modifiers and advisors.
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This one page is the length of a very short paperback novel. This is not including events, this is the localization and effects of the focus tree only.
I would bet that within this focus tree there are give or take 6 focuses that matter the most, 2 of which you would probably need to do within a certain length of time or risk totally fucking up your nation, 1 of which declares war on trumps america, and 1 of which declares war on bidens america. another 2 or so would probably remove crippling modifiers or add substantial buffs to your nation. ALL you would need is a screenshot of the focus tree with big red arrows pointed at some screenshots that say "do this one early :)" and "do this one later unless you like a challenge >:)".
That would be the hypothetical purpose of a wiki for a mod like this, telling you what routes you actually need to go to play the game instead of just "here is the txt dump of the entire focus tree and no we won't explain the modifiers." Instead of dickscord.
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>>2378129
Yes. I agree a community wiki is the best way (for an individual) to contribute to what's actually known about a mod or game and how to play it. Version control with github so that you know when releases were and where you can log the changes they said they made from the steam workshop by just copypasting those descriptions into a readme file and so you can have all their stuff uploaded to the cloud where it doesn't have to sit on your hard drive. Meld for specific file changes, then log the actual major changes into the wiki.
However we all know that ANY mod or games devs have almost certainly taken control of community wikis and will control discourse there in exactly the same way as they do on the discord which reintroduces the identical issue and the need for decentralization in the first place. It begs the very same question, why waste your time trying to contribute to mentally ill authoritarian platforms? This is exact same reason discord isn't a perfect wiki anyways.
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>>2378091
>when every sane american knows we got locked up for what was literally the flu that made you sleepy for a week and that 99.9% of the deaths were from nurses following the CDC guidelines
That is not true, Covid was and still is a lab-made stronger flu, that was specifically made to kill off old and weaker people in an attempt to lower the world population. And the most deaths, were not caused by the CDC guidelines but by the actual vaccine (especially Pfizer) and that one I have directly from people I and my family know personally who got themselves vaxxed because they had to and have continuing health issues from that, or had relatives die.
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>>2378195
Seems pretty efficient to me, it achieved everything it was designed to achieve.A lot of old people died, which means that state doesnt have to pay them pensions, and poiticians have more money to steal for themselves.
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>>2378207
That was only a small part of what the coof was designed to do. The real immediate objective was to get Trump out, and the more long term objective was to see how much power could unelected officials exert on governments and their populace
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>>2378184
Whether you directly agree with what I say or not you still agree that overall covid was a psyop by the people in control and (((they))) used it to kill many, and you agree the authorities who claimed to be stopping it were using covid as bioweapon- a narrative that TFR disagrees with and inversely bases it's plot upon. You, probably, also agree that different groups of modders and game developers will ban you at a moments notice for saying so or mentioning any related politics. The specifics are irrelevant to the point of my first posts where I question why anon is bothering to post in a discord with a controlled narrative which largely supports an insane genocidal government.
For the record I think it's entirely possible for covid to be a nothingburger AND a bioweapon AND for the vaccine to be a bioweapon, and for the hospitals to have killed primarily through ventilation+Remdesivir. In my opinion none of that is contradictory. But it's not relevant to my argument at all.
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>>2378216
How could you be deep enough in conspiracy theory's to think that covid was completely intentional but not deep enough to know that trump is a pedophile.
>>2378232
The WEF path openly says that covid was engineered and that the Saudi King was assassinated by the WEF.
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>>2378273
He's right that the wiki SHOULD be the bible for any game but unfortunately that anon has literally never played a videogame before and has subsequently never had to use a wiki that has been edited to be wrong by hordes of the mentally unstable.
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>>2378295
Wikis and discords are gay. You would know if you spent any amount of time trying to use them.
The only thing that matters is the raw information, something that you can extract yourself without a centralized wiki or gaylord internet group.
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>>2378279
>they could only managed to kill a meager 7 million in five years. It's demographically insignificant
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>>2378099
NTA
I joined just to ask for tips and strats. But yeah general is just full of underage posting random ironic braintrot with a historical and political coat of paint and leftist intellectuals that either show off screenshots of
>Heckin wholesome APLA and NATO beat the chuds
Or talking about how unrealistic it is for AWD, PF or NSM to be included in the war.
I mean its to be expected but I do see the seeds of the same cancerous mentality that ruined TNO
>Ummm why does Burgundy always win their war?
>Ummm How is the Reichspakt a thing? This is competency washing
>Umm im a demsoc and its totally unrealistic for the DSA to align with the APLA
Hope devs dont listen to em personally if it were up to me there would be no channel outside of discussing in game tactics, teasers and announcements.
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Forgot pic, this is what was spammed.
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Oh look its the memelord himself
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I don't understand, why can't I take this focus?
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>>2374736
He's struck again.
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>>2378503
>6 of the 10 members are also members of the New Democrat Coalition, who for the most part hold socially liberal views
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>>2378493
Not the hero we deserved, but the hero we need.
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>>2378345
>China in the allies
>Soviet:Axis 1:2 deaths
>China getting slaughtered by an order of nearly 7x more deaths than Japan
>Poland the laughing stock of Europe
>Indonesia no military deaths, the laughing stock of SEA
>Indian population somehow dying as a result of WW2
>France losing more population overseas than at home
>UK and US no non military casualties
>Lithuania somehow managing to get ethnically cleansed
>Greece no military casualties
>Canada almost 0 casualties
>Japan meat grinding 4x more than Italy
>Italy contributing almost none of the overall deaths
Amazing graph. So extremely factual and true.
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I'm gonna have to do another APLA run, this time with more thought into what wars I send volunteers to. I was too caught up in having fun fighting Dugin in Tajikistan or whatever and not whether they would actually do that. And I'm still not decided on what wars pre-CW Trump would fight in. Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia definitely, but Somalia, Libya and Yemen I'm not sure. Because Term 1 Trump wouldn't, but Term1 Trump also didn't start a civil war, which is more in line with Term2 Trump. So do I act as if it's still Term 1 Trump, or do I presume this is Term 2 Trump in the making due to how bad things are and intervene in all of them purely because the Iranians are on the other team?
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If you want to go realistic I can honestly only see Saudi Arabia as interventions for term 1 Trump. Yemen is an edge case since you're messing with Iran and that's in line with him too. The others I just don't see. Also I don't think Afghanistan is something he'd do either since he wanted to withdraw from the place. Honestly haven't tried though. Can you actually win that war and what happens if you kick out the Taliban? I gotta try that out sometime.
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Played NSM again after not touching it since release, honestly had a lot more fun than I thought it would. It's a fairly fun difficult tag, however that rework is still desperately needed.
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>>2378896
It's mechanically a pretty fun and satisfying tag but you can really tell that it was undercooked and needed at least another month of work before it could be released. Don't think I'll play it until they fix up the tag. It's just too janky. Which sucks because I want to like it.
By the way given how fucked the tag is it really speaks volumes that Burt's still one of the most memed on guys in the mod. Goes to show that a bit of aura, humor and fun gameplay goes a long way.
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>>2378900
Yeah it definitely needs more work, it has almost no loc, the political parts of the focus tree are pretty barebones, it's basically impossible to fix your economy post reunification, and there's only two paths. However despite all that it is a surprisingly fun tag.
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>>2378904
>it's basically impossible to fix your economy post reunification
Kinda scratch that since I'm now making money, but by the time I'd be able to get a good of enough of a GDP to allow me to have a functioning industry/economy the game would be over.
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>>2378905
>adopt previous 40T debt from collapse regime
>spend 5 years building Civs and 6 years doing focuses before positive liquidity economy
>don't adopt debt
>cant trade with anyone because the world hates you for not paying jew denbts
Post CW America is miserable no matter what government you pick
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>>2378916
Office parks don't just generate GDP they also give boosts to your business value factor which becomes a soft multiplier for your tax revenue. I think civs are better in general but plopping a few office parks down in your major cities isn't a bad idea. Although if you're just playing casually you can honestly just spam civs and eventually achieve good enough results.
They should expand the buildings system. I liked the idea of what TNO did by having you build things to improve your country but ultimately the execution was pretty bad and the planned expansions apparently died after they got rid of most devs that cared about gameplay. At least the unique buildings they teased on their anniversary looked interesting even if that was mostly about tech.
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>>2379208
Helloooooo I'm the Nostalgia Critic, and I'm going to reunify America under the banner of Kickassia so you don't have to!It took me 5+ minutes to post this, jannies please fix the fucking connection error issue.
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>Race to 600K
Two weeks later: TFR maintains a ~10X growth compared to TNO which has now wasted its 100+K head start. Will TFR score a meme win, or will TNO score a Pyrrhic victory?
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I tried collapsing world and it sucked so much ass. I completed the Croatian tree and there was nothing happening for years so I dropped, it said I had to win a war against serbia but they only went to war with bulgaria and albania. The economic tree also sucked ass since there was impossible to complete missions like build a railway while having 100% consumer goods.
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Ok I think this works RP wise:
>preCW Trump intervenes in Afghanistan to force the ceasefire (realistically, there would already be troops there) and in Saudi Arabia on the side of the Arabian Republic because theyre who Israel backs
>preCW Biden would finish the Saudi intervention and also intervene in Yemen just like he did IRL, just with ground troops this time since the situation is more dire
For the APLA postCW, in-lore both the Jacobins and NeoSocs are isolationist, so in general they wouldnt intervene even to help fellow communists. The Octoberists will consider it, which basically just means they back China, but I dont think theyd sign on to help China in a blatantly offensive war. However, I do think if China loses the GAW and collapses, theyd send volunteers to back the communist factions like the Red Army to try and keep China communist (and most importantly, not run by Nick Land). The Anarchists are listed as interventionist, but there's almost no anarchist factions, so the only intervention Id see them sending volunteers to is to help the Zapatistas.
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>>2379331
Mike Ma, but Ted K. will def be my second playthrough. I hope they don't tease who his successors are, I wanna discover them when I play his path.
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>>2379308
Even if they don't get a full tree, I'd like for them to get at least some basic skeleton content where they change up a bit so that it's not the same leader and government type every time.
>>2379331
Uncle Ted. There are a lot of tags I want to play like the KKK, AcCaps and InsAns but he's pretty high up there. Ma too obviously, I just rate Ted higher.
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>>2379564
So much for predicting the future... huh TFR chuddies fufufufufu
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>>2379564
>If you get Dark MAGA while the BoP is at Hero of the People you get American Juche Isolationism
>If you get Dark MAGA while the BoP is at In Bed with Bureaucrats you get Neo Conservatism Interventionism
Kino.
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>>2379565
Honestly that was always there, and I think the BoP idea would just be a more extreme version of People VS Bureaucrats that we have now. Because the extreme neocon shit we have now isn't that different from what we have for the bureaucrat side: caving to the PACs, bailing out big business, supporting the MIC, rehabilitating the intelligence agencies. So it fits, really.
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>>2379715
>projecting so hard
I am neither trans or liberal, anon. I am a hardline monarchist reactionary. Trump is literally a nepo baby serving the exact same jewish and military-industrial interests as all other presidents before him.
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>>2379715
Trump bankrupted a casino he ran, he is a retard.
>>2379716
You're also a retard.
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Ayy, they added built in adblock
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CAL-I-FORN-IA REST IN PEACE
SI-MUL-TAN-E-OUS RE-LEASE
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>>2379963
In the future they should add a hidden path to the APLA where if you let Chinese influence get too high the APLA becomes a Chinese puppet/satellite state.
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>>2379963
>Republic of California (under Gavin Newsom) wins their regional civil war
>Anthony Kiedis - right libertarian - is voted leader in a snap election
>Super Event pops and Dani California plays
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>star of Chaos
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In case anyone cares: fucking everything leaked again over at /tno/ for the second time this month, Italy team has been purged and replaced with the lead dev's friends and there are more charts for unplayable African skeletons that are more elaborate than their majors.