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>>109883886
>debuts in January 2024
>discovers she doesn't like any of her genmates or co-workers in February 2024
>mutes all of them and stops communicating with them by May 2024
>talks shit about co-workers
>has no friends anymore
>begins to fully disassociate in early 2025
>graduates and blames everybody in Phase for everything, from her being a JP talent to blaming them for why she cut off lines of communication to her peers
>nobody shows up to give her the flowers she thinks she is owed during her graduation
you are here
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crazy to think she was the betting favorite to be the 6th phase talent to get a playbutton that is how hot she started.
she fizzled out with a whimper and never got there.
was supposed to be their 3d idol, but never got there.
she was supposed to be a lot of things to a lot of people, but never got there.
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Clara
>i didn't do anything wrong
>it's not my fault nobody in Phase liked me
>it;'s not my fault I muted all of the talents and isolated myself almost immediately
>they are the problem, not me
>I am normal
>I am not unprofessional
>I am the victim
also Clara
>picrel
she seems like well adjusted and professional middle aged white woman honestly
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>westerner applies to jp branch
>ends in disaster
hmmmmmmm
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>>109884255
Maybe so, from what I can tell no kawaii girl kept contact with her and few mention her if at all, only really heard Charlotte Suzu commenting something about Clara helping her with something streaming related the first year. There's also that little incident where kawaii deleted her VODs and everyone speculated it was because Nene asked this.
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>>109883886
i truly believed that she was controlled opposition to further sakanas weaponized propaganda but it seems she was just divisive for no reason other than some imagined slight or egomania idk. as far as my viewing experience with her she was extreme to an uncomfortable degree for sure as is jelly. in spite of it all i still think theyre secret accomplices. they both read the same news and listen to the same talking heads so they certainly arent immune to what im describing.
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>hire a literal whore
>no not even "she has a bf" but a legitimate whore
>she starts sperging out before even debuting
>can't help herself from making political posts and vague posting about how "shitty" her coworkers are
>the final nail in the coffin was promoting nigger shit
snow bunnies are truly the worst type of women, Kiara probably has the same opinions
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>>109884284
she should have shown her feet like a real Phase member
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>>109884197
>there are girls in phase who have the same beliefs as clara, yet they are respected
Lmao, phasesharts have already designated Eimi and Rie as their next victims and are just waiting for their first misstep to go for the jugular
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>>109884197
They realized Phase's /pol/ fanbase would stalk their rm/personal accounts to monitor what they say & doxx them if they said something the /pol/ fanbase didn't like. Clara thought they would behave like Hololive fans and respect the separation between Vtuber & RM accounts.
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>>109885021
eimi and rie are well loved enough that talents will back them
clara disliked every girl in phase starting as early as may 2024 and she said she isolated herself from them as much as possible because she didn't like them
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>>109885059
>Clara thought they would behave like Hololive fans and respect the separation between Vtuber & RM accounts.
why would she think they would respect vtuber culture when clara herself has no respect whatsoever for vtuber culture?
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>>109885083
>eimi and rie are well loved enough that talents will back them
As soon as the most notorious phasetards will start raising their pitchfork they will immediately fall silent, otherwise they will be next. The talents basically ended up hostage to the fanbase that, when it suited them, they had nurtured for years
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>>109885255
>they will immediately fall silent,
doubt
it can become a very delicate situation if they start attacking a talent that is well loved.
clara didn't have a voice, certain girls do and they would that will set the damn place on fire and are playing with house money and have have pull
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>>109885302
vtuber who respects vtuber culture btw
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>>109885319
>it can become a very delicate situation if they start attacking a talent that is well loved
Not anymore. They smelled blood after Clara's graduation, in the future if they think they'll have tha chance to drive someone they don't like away they will take it
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No different from NijiJP Mito's "Nazo no Mito" videos.
But in any case, this was only yesterday. What about the previous 2 years? What did Clara do, as Clara, on her Clara accounts, for the past 2 years that justifies Phase's /pol/ fanbase to not respect vtubing culture of separating vtuber & RM accounts?
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>>109883886
Nothing wrong with her desu
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>>109884634
You retards wanted her to apologize or something? Kek
She never bent the knee to your shit TVA narratives.
Also, it's funny how there's zero self-reflection regarding what drove her away from Phase. She's someone who made friend with Pippa, whom she definitely disagrees with on many things, so the whole "she can't stand differing views" TVA narrative doesn't work either.
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>>109885469
She still did collabs, events, and ka-ching??? It wasnt the whole comapny either retard, she clearly had friends who supported her. She just didn't want to take part with those that probably said slurs in the company chats.
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>>109885532
Them being together in close contact until graduation still supports the argument that she can stand people with differing views. Your character assassination of her falls completely apart under the closest scrutiny.
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>>109885339
She had a bunch of stuff she wanted to do which she addressed in her graduation, another one woman show hinted to be The Rocky Horror Picture Show, the return of Cwawa and which she had rigged custom assets for.
>>109885446
The thing that set it all off was the whole Amber Heard talk with Pippa which caused people to dox her for her non-Vtuber accounts so they could slander her.
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>>109885469
NTA. I've never taken on a job of being a charismatic figure, especially not with intent of making friends and collaborators, but I know about self-isolating and it can be punching yourself in the dick but you're compelled to creep away all the same.
I think what Clara did on the way out was immature and disrespectful and I don't like any of her batshit tranny politics either, but I can sympathize with her mental state before she did her graduation stunt.
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>>109885652
Nah fuck that, I've been in a workplace full of bullies and management that didn't want to step on any toes, that I put up with for far too long for the paycheck.
I'd have done the same thing as Clara on my way out if I could.
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>>109885727
>Who the fuck would go out of their way to DM her specifically?
The people with whom she continued to interact and collaborate during the year and a half between May 2024 and his graduation, you absolute buffoon?
It is clear that she had significant issues with certain individuals (it is unclear who, but it is easy to imagine), but to suggest that she completely isolated herself from the entire company she was working with, and with whom she admittedly planned to continue working until very recently, is idiotic
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everyone has political views, but you shouldnt even allude to them in any way, lest people judge you for it
lumi tweeted about being in favor of more middle eastern wars so i hope for her sake she doesnt end up like clara
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>>109884595
And the VOD rrat is so stupid. The likeliest answer is Big Culter Entertainment wasn't buying the IP for ex talents so they purged it. Agencies not torching their ex talent's channel is a relatively new policy in the industry.
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Even if the Phase girls don't have the best reputation, the fact that she didn't get along with those kind of co-workers really shows how bad she was to work alongside. Social connections are everything in this industry, and if you're just going to piss off a lot of them, you're not long for this gig.
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>>109885059
You hit the nail on the head, Phase fans merge RM with Vtuber and that's how they look at talents. Clara was playing by a different rule book. Not that I give her any pity, I knew the most annoying Beryl fan and I hate that bitch
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It feels like old internet culture vs. new internet culture is having a fight within vtubing, and you see it the most within Phase. Edgy and reckless teens could be pretty inappropriate but they weren't fundamentally hateful at their core. New internet culture is angry, hateful, overly political, combative and conformist. You can't truly ignore this clash because the latter is a spreading cancer, you see it even in the catalog. Yeah it sucks to address. But it's happening, whether you ignore it or not.
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>>109883886
She was always batshit crazy. If you knew her long before she ever joined phase, everything would be clear as day. But these leftoid retards (I hate both leftoids and rightoids btw) now pretend like "LE NAZIS!" pushed her out of phase.
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>>109886302
do these girls not do research about the company they sign up for?
the only phase girls that can have a gripe and be like "I didn't sign up for this how was i supposed to know the environment i was entering?" are pippa's genmates.
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>>109886302
it feels like there is a good section of the company that have this same complaint and there are heavy hitters in it that might lead to phase being rocked to its core if things got bad enough and girls were united, but it is tricky.
if clara acted a little bit differently, i think she could have been the thing that helped change phase. but because of how things went down, it got messy and a lot of grey area.
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>Breaking news:
Vtubers, despite claiming to be outsiders/outcasts of society, or otherwise somehow different, are actually political normies with mainstream political takes
Most if not all phase girls (even the "chud" ones)are "woke", meaning their political thinking extends to "we should all just be nice to each other, this is the most important thing"
The exception seems to be lumi, who tweeted today about being in favor with war in iran
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>>109884848
People are obsessed with Saba and ERB's singing, and I have no trouble believing they're sincere about it. But even Saba's fans are tired of her bullshit.
With Clara's fans, I think the singing is a smokescreen - they want to boost all of her bullshit, then pretend like all they really care about is her singing. It's the motte-and-bailey tactic. Because otherwise, what is so special about her voice?
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>>109887613
genuinely the only way you would ever see some potential crazy change or drastic bombshell is if it involved one of the 4 origins en girls and they snapped and had a selen moment, and really it is 3 because one of those is pippa.
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>>109887458
Vtubing doesn't exist outside our world and events, especially in the US have made culture warriors way more aggressive. Polfags have started drifting in and trying to push out people they don't approve of. So maybe Phase has just gotten worse since 2023.
>>109888052
>With Clara's fans, I think the singing is a smokescreen
>what is so special about her voice?
She has one of the best voices in EN, she's comparable to Roca or Liz and yes, Saba. You don't understand why that might matter because ultimately, you don't respect the culture. It's faggots like you who are drowning vtubing by normalizing drama, doxxing, and culture war shitfighting. Look at how much antis have damaged Hololive JP. You're doing exactly the same thing to EN. Do you not think toxic assholes like you discourage chuubas from streaming? Yet somehow you think you should own the culture due to your shitty politics when it was the people who were former idols, former utaites, VAs and artists, fluent in JP culture and NND, who made vtubing. It wasn't fucking chuds. You're cancer because you saw something you didn't build, and tried to plant your flag on it and take it. Do you really not see?
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>>109888250
Basically. Pippa, Tenma, Lia, Uruka have hammer power above any other talent in the company, and the first one of those four to swing that hammer can crush things if that hammer is swung in the right way.
those four know where all the bodies are buried.
if a founding talent who has given a half decade of their life to this group says "i dont care anymore. shit is fucked, here is why:" and they do it in a certain way (not the way clara did it), that would be catastrophic. then you factor in who some of their friends are outside of phase and what kind of platform they have, and they could help blow it up quickly.
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>>109888934
It's all more lies. Give it a rest
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>>109886302
Respect for Lia and Hime who are just as much of lib brained but held it back, even when they where bellow 100ccv streamers.
These two get handed 500 viewers as entry point and cant handle it.
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>>109888509
tenma could blow up the entire thing. When she talks, everybody listens for good reason. Would she? Maybe if ti got bad enough. she loves Phase to death, but sometimes in life you have to put down your dog you love so much.
uruka doesnt care (in a good way). She would never think about doing anything because she is oblivious and just wants to do her thing.
lia is tricky and possibly the most dangerous and I don't think she understands the power she has both on the performative surface level side of things (much of the companies history runs thru her, and h20sakana wants to protect that) but more importantly her friends in the industry. If she snapped and went full selen/doki, mint would probably get involved and speak out against Phase which would be a disaster. mint has been put into a position because of doing concerts with lia that it would warrant her making a "my experiences with Phase Connect" black stream
pippa won't ever because her hands are dirty and she has way too much money to lose. Her cultivating a following on fruit farms is the very reason there is a problem. Also she and sakana owe it all to that following it is what it is. It would be kamikaze.
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>>109889091
>Carly Rae Jepsen
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>>109888477
>She has one of the best voices in EN
She doesn't even have one of the best voices in Phase
She's similar to Liz in holo, some technique but zero passion, a little bit nasal and lacking resonance
She has never had a particularly successful song, other than the one Sakana spent a fortune advertising for her
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>>109889155
i simply dont think any of them would do anything wild. for better or worse and whatever it is worth, phase connect is their legacy. this place means something to them. imo if i was sakana i would offer them extremely small pieces of the company to ensure they never do anything crazy to be like "well, you have skin in the game now too."
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>>109889012
No, it was Pippa who sparked the line of conversation. The fact she spoke her mind is apparently enough ammunition to go scorched earth and dox when the appropriate response is to call her retarded for her views and leave it at that. People have no concept of proportionality at all and it fucking sucks because idiots aren't deterred or punished enough for causing harm.
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None of them are going to do anything bombastic because despite the absolute shithole of a community they have, sakana still wants his company to actually exist in a year and officially signing off on nonsensical culture wars (especially against your own members) is a great way to get your sponsors to flee and your girls blacklisted. That's both why Jelly and Phase publicly apologized after the minecraft nonsense and also why Tenma tells people to fuck off when they tell her to yell at Clara or Uruka or whatever.
Anons out here so deep in the trenches of their /pol/shit that they forget why normal people want nothing to do with them.
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>>109885600
>slander her
anon they merely reported what she herself said. wouldn't you want to know if the talent that you watch hates you and supports politics which destroy you?
i'm not defending harassment but there's this silly notion that these things should exist separately no matter what. not the way real life works, chuddy or not
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>>109886302
Runie confirmed literally perfect in every way.
I thought she was evil, she can't keep getting away with it.
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>>109890329
>anon they merely reported what she herself said.
Well, they reported on what she quoted from other people as if they were her words while leaving out her own unique sentences as context, but close enough I suppose.
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>>109890223
there's nothing funnier than /pol/tards getting mad at reality
everything you hate about muh leftists is what you've become, reeeeeing and crying the moment you're faced with the reality that normies don't like people who spend every second they're awake whining about m-muh charlie kirk! MIGA!!!
you people are bigger snowflakes than the trannies, it's hilarious
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>>109890381
Please tell me the hidden subcontext of her saying that killing law abiding American citizens for having differing opinions is what the second amendment is for. I'll wait, and yes, those are her words.
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>>109890419
Antis are not just misguided. They're lying, and they know it. They are evil people. The only thing that stops them from being worse is the fact they're afraid of being found out. You should start noticing. Or maybe people should start noticing you.
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>>109890466
they know this, they don't care
they want to pretend like clara is a demon for disliking charlie kirk
the funniest part is that if a talent had said "people who make fun of charlie kirks exploded neck deserve to die" they'd say it's based
rules only apply if they don't agree with them
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>>109890466
Why are you deflecting from the question tranny? What did she mean by this if not
>People I disagree with deserve to die
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>>109885451
You are on a Phase owned board in a falseflag catalogue thread filled with Phasedrone replies to control the narrative on and manage the opinion of uninvested drama tourists, why are you looking for self-reflection here?
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>>109890705
She meant that while violence is terrible, the left should probably prepare to defend themselves, rather than die without a squeak on the guns of the right. I wouldn't put murder past you. In fact I think you'd probably cheer it on yourself.
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>>109890389
You're so far detached from reality you don't understand why being so radicalized you wish death on your allied is bad for advertising.
I like how you make the argument that they are sucking up to advertisers then make the case that wishing death on people for not agreeing with you is something advertisers want their name attached to.
Yet another radical pretending they're a moderate. You could have just started the conversation off with "i'm a radical leftists and will support anything the right thinks is good and attack anything the right thinks is bad"
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>>109891397
i'm nta, don't care about advertisers
that's funny you say that, because you could have just started the conversation with "i'm a magacuck and will support anything the right thinks is good and the left thinks is bad"
case in point, you and retards like you itt don't care about what pippa said >>109890562
because you think she's a chud even when she's shown plenty of times in recent years that she isn't, but have a snowflake meltdown when clara says "all americans are entitled to their 2nd amendment rights"
you only hate her for saying it because you know she's a leftist
if any talent you think is a chud said the exact same thing, you'd call it based, but i don't expect someone with the rightoid mind virus to be able to understand what cognitive dissonance is
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>>109891583
The problem with idpol is it's hard to stay away from. People will deliberately pick fights on perceived identity. Something like "everybody is welcome here" becomes a point of controversy. Staying out of that kind of politics is impossible.
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Politics would disappear from vtubing if mutts were banned from the internet.
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>>109890705
>no rights were ever won without violence
this means she wants to use violence against those who take away the rights of all her favorite minority groups aka not white people.
white people are the ones who take away the rights according to her. she wants to use violence against white people who currently taking away the rights of non whites
it's simple and you pretend not to understand. you saw her sing lady gaga. she thinks shes a hero fighting against hitler.
you'd use violence against hitler... wouldn't you libtard..?
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>>109885451
mfw it's ´26 and half of /vt/ still thinks pippa is political
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>>109894739
i think this is a big reason why all the gen1 & gen2 talents are still around and fully intact, and you are seeing so many invaders wish onward girls being so careless and don't care if they leave and act entitled.
everyone in gen1/gen2 save for shiina & airi started as 2views with their characters and they have worked hard for every crumb they ever got. that is why they stick around and are not so easy to just want to give it all away.
life is so tough for invaders wish onwards girls who debuted to 5k+ people and all started as 4views boo fucking hoo poor babies.
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Clara wasn't American or from America tho
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All these broad generalizations about Phase because you know nothing about the community. But please listen to my uninformed opinions!
There has been 1 ohmie, 1 critical of Clara that have spoken the truth and the rest have no fucking clue at all especially political motivated ones except for the Eimi incident.
The fact is Clara has always had crazy takes if you watched her you would not take it seriously but if you did then you would be in the same cucoo boat as Clara.
Amber Heard did nothing wrong. How genes are passed on. Laughing at the irony of Charlie Kirk who got killed on a school a few weeks after saying school shootings are an inevitability for our country's great gun laws.
If you took anything she said seriously which people did you were honestly the problem. The reason why people stopped loving her is because not streaming means you get treated coldly over time. We can't all be brainwashed like Gura's army of simps.
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>>109896464
>If you took anything she said seriously which people did you were honestly the problem
news to clara. she took herself so seriously she quit her job over it and spent her farewell steam in full flesh cam dressed as a ninja braise black people and singing a trans rights anthem
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>>109896662
its in this fucking thread you clueless shits. the biggest problem with you stupid fucks is like i said. You know nothing about Phase in the first place and generalize.
You can't keep shit posting that Phase is Origins and forget everyone else for slander purposes.
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>>109896562
nta but do you have screenshots
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i think it's pretty obvious she has political views that cant coexist with others. despite memes and silly things said, she's an enemy to some. i think she has a beautiful voice and is a talented streamer, but she is my enemy, unironically. the way people deal with enemies is by destroying them. im not a dedicated anti btw
i do agree that people doing this gay ass christian moralizing are all fakers. "oh the humanity" about the assassination, definitely bullshit. this is just a tactic used. similarly when the opposite side calls phase talents racist grasping at the thinnest of straws.
yes, it's like your girlfriend saying things to you because she wants to hurt you, rather than those things being true. they used the things clara said about kirk to do as much damage as possible to her. this is normal human behavior
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>>109896815
god forbid I try to learn something. so one screenshot from a chatter? >>109886302
that is it? this is the whole "eimi incident"?
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>>109896867
they were all caught out on discord. clearly you should shut up before throwing accusations and learn in the first place.
>>109896842
Clara's problem is when she is told no she has a tantrum instead of being a professional. She honestly gets what she wants and thinks that is a strength at the demerit of others. No one had a problem with her out takes until she publicly tries to double or triple down on it. Then if you take it out on your audience who by the way have no fucking idea what you are going through just that you have vanished. It becomes a problem.
The reason why people didn't give her the benefit of the doubt for a break as well is because she was caught being active with her fans still during the break. So it becomes up in the air if she was taking time to recover health wise or not.
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>>109897067
>Clara's problem is when she is told no she has a tantrum instead of being a professional.
You are relating what she said about moving gens to one about self-isolating. You're trying very hard to argue using made up shit that never happened.
We don't know why she self-isolated except for a few talents.
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>>109889129
>Respect for Lia
Yes respect for clowning on Clara the next day w/ the Asmongold meme
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>>109896959
read what i wrote again retard
for example, if someone wants war and someone doesnt want war, only one of those things can happen. either one cancels the other out
clara is an mlk worshipper who hates white people. she wants society to become something that others dont want. some people hate her for this
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>>109897220
i do think there was an issue between lia and clara. how deep it was and what it was about? idk.
i just find it strange that clara was friends with lia's literal best friends in the company people lia helped get jobs in phase, but they were nothing to each other. lia does not trust many vtubers and keeps her circle small, and she did not allow herself to get to know clara for some reason.
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>>109897379
Try fucking with Phase members & find out what the Lia do
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>>109897379
>literally started the phase california lefty clique with uruka
>her best friends rie and eimi have clara's back
>but lia never fucked with clara, and instead is fully supportive of jelly
just when I think I have lia figured out and have the answers, she changes the question.
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>applying an on stream bit to have irl implications
you 2 sound retarded
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>>109898666
explain this satan!!!!
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>>109897102
Iran
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>>109890705
wtf this is actually a lot worse than I remember. god damn I can't even think of a worse pl post from a corpo vtuber
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what a rat, you purposely cut the post to hide what she said huh? are all clara fans like this?
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see >>109890938
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>>109900372
Also
t. Got these from twitter
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>>109900372
Clara... your damage control is pathetic
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>>109900372
i don't get it, either one is really bad to reply to especially after an assassination? ESL?
replying with a shrug to "political violeance feels so dangerous" is crazy to me.
I can't think of an on the face worst yab for a corpo than this, although I think 95% phase fans generally handled it a lot more privately and gracefully than nijisisters over #mcdonaldsgate. I rarely heard about this outside of /vt/ until the jelly fiasco
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>>109897220
>Tenma dropped the post mortem killshot on Yuri after she left
>Lia dropped the post mortem killshot on Clara after she left
when the daisenpais have spoken, they have spoken
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>>109900563
Nice arguments retards. She didn't backpedal on anything. She clarified her stance to discredit your shitty narratives that she is somehow this evil woman that celebrates death.
>>109900538
She's apathetic/doesn't care, but is telling the leftie celebrating to arm up in case things escalate.
> I rarely heard about this outside of /vt/ until the jelly fiasco
You must have avoid Twitter. TVA spammed the shit out of to cancel her.
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>>109900520
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>>109900563
>"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it" - Upton Sinclair
The more mundane reality is you're wrong. But your level of sunk cost fallacy makes you unable to back off your falsehoods without incurring significant damage to your ego. So you will twist yourselves into knots to feel better about yourselves. You need a certain amount of core inner strength to be able to admit fault, and many weak people are drawn to causes to feel stronger by proxy.
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>chuds trying to claim victory because of charlie kirk
charlie kirk shit is not the reason for any of this.
clara lost the support of people who mattered in the company once she started shit talking other talents. that was a fork in the road moment.
if she still had the unanimous support of her peers, she would be in phase still. she lost the room and she knew it. the isolation she put herself in was because of her own actions catching up to her.
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>>109900660
i don't even know how you could read that? that is beyond a charitiable reading, its outright lying. even in the follow damage control post she comes off unhinge talking about a guy who just got shot that same day.
I feel like you two
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>>109900660
have been fighting so long against whomever you are fighting that you can't even concede on the basics that she fucked up here. I can concede tva are fags but compared to everything else that goes viral on twitter, this really went under the radar and I feel like 95% of phase chuds decided to just ignore it and play nice until the jelly situation.
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>>109883886
You can't really just make bitch stop being a bitch. But maybe just maybe if this absolute moronic woman would learn how to hide her socipathic, deranged and unacceptable opinions, things would go better.
But obviously, this narcissistic fuck still believes that she can't do wrong so nothing will change. She will disappear for a while, then reappear as part of other company, then start doing the exact same shit and then graduate again while having a massive butthurt.
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>>109900865
How is it outright lying? What about her post had anything to do with Kirk? She said it herself, she didn't give a fuck about the guy.
Everything about that post addresses political violence and using the second amendment to defend yourself.
I'm not sure how you're reading it any other way unless you want to believe she's talking about killing more people... which she doesn't, per her second post. Damage control or not, those are her beliefs and you're a retard for trying to contradict her, making up shit she never said but that you inferred, and using that as an argument to shit on her, which is exactly what TVA did.
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>>109900865
There's nothing nice about them. They just had no opportunity to push their rrats on a bigger stage until they found the usual culture war garbage to piggyback onto, which was through Jelly's yab. Though you might have a point that it's only 5% of Phase fans, or whatever. But a very active minority can cause a lot of trouble if left unchecked.
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>>109900909
>maybe just maybe if this absolute moronic woman would learn how to hide her socipathic, deranged and unacceptable opinions, things would go better
You mean like posting them on her personal socials rather than on her corporate media or in her content? Funny thing about that.
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>>109901005
>innocent severely autistic woman
>finally thinks she's become friends with someone
>the person was using her for clout and is a piece of shit
>rinse and repeat
If you think the list ends at just Clara and Yuri I have news for you lmao.
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>>109900989
I mean, you can call it based but it kinda costed her an entire career and a lot of connections. That's pretty retarded, that's pretty cringe. She nuked herself just for the sake of the game and got absolutely nothing from it.
The reality is that she may even have problems finding new place on vtuber scene - she kind of shitted on rest of PC and they have friends and these friends work in other companies and probably everybody is already aware of her being a fucking cunt...
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>>109900941
she clearly says in the follow up post that you made yourself that SHE WAS MAKING FUN OF HIM because it was "ironic" bcof what he said about school or w/e.
yeah I don't care, desu you can make fun of whoever you want.
but I'm sick of clarafags trying to pretend like anyone in phase said anything as crazy as she had PL or otherwise. the worse we had was tenma saying fun hating fags get the rope.
>>109900993
I much rather these gatekeep fags than the redditors who cancel you over every little detail. they never got the company to an issue an apology unlike redditfags
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>>109901205
Clara should start a woke vtuber org with the troontubers on twitch. That's never bitten anyone in the ass before. She could even collab with the prolific pedophile faggot Taiga they/them are Canadian too.
Somehow most schizo vtuber are Canadian. Strange.
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>>109900989
>She knows who she is and she won't apologize for it.
and we know what she is too:
an unemployed, 4-time loser in vtubing, former jav model, middle aged failed idol who talked shit about her co-workers behind their backs and was so disliked that nobody showed up to her graduation and her own podcast co-host gave no fucks about it
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>>109901205
I'm sure other chuubas also know about the doxxing, harassment and stalking and they almost certainly have a very different opinion than you. For them, it's a major risk of this job and literally their worst nightmare. I think they probably have an enormous amount of sympathy for her. Because they'd be scared for it to happen to them. This is something antis will never understand, because if they did they wouldn't act like that in the first place. All chuubas have to navigate the perils of the industry and Clara stepped on a landmine. She might not be perfect, but then again, nobody is. I don't think they'd share your opinion at all.
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>>109901249
>SHE WAS MAKING FUN OF HIM
Where? The part where she found it ironic? That's not part of the first post we were interpreting.
My point is, TVAfaggots intentionally misunderstood and spread the message that she celebrated his death when it was mostly retards thinking the post she was replying to was her post. Her post isn't offensive in the slightest, it's a pretty mainstream leftist belief. The fact anyone got offended is honestly the funny part.
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>Lia making fun of Clara with "I got fired" stream - selling Woke Fries
>Pippa "you'd have to be pretty stupid to leave Phase" couple streams back
>Jelly is playing a game about throwing bananas in a hole - pretty sure that is also a Clara call out
Phase won.
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>>109901375
yeah they did exagerate and say she celebrated, but you also lied multiple time and posted a cropped image at first so meh you are one in the same as them to me honestly
many other vtubers have said way less nasty things then clara, and got much more trouble/virality. The phase chuds you got so much hatred were a lot nicer than most other fangroups. a shame you will never recognize how much worse it could have been if jelly posted a shrug emoji after the pelosi attack or something.
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>Jelly took Friday off so she can spend the whole day enjoying Clara's graduation
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>>109901980
this would have worked if jelly didn't get canceled for literally saying she wanted politics out of minecraft a couple of weeks ago.
yeah I'm thinking over-reacting to an assassination is way more forgivable than going ballastic for the most basic ass take imaginable.
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>>109897220
Lia standing by Jelly instead of going with Hime/Eimi in backing Clara is no small thing. It shows me the cliques in the company are not that far apart and there are blurred lines.
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>>109883886
Probably joining the JP branch of a company when she wanted to be EN (dumb desicion). Also, joining a corpo whose fanbase had a radically different political view than her while she cared too much about that type of topics (even dumber desicion).
She also mentioned some vague stuff in may 2024 that might be related to the company, her coworkers, phase-fans or god know who. I don't like to speculate about it because there is so little information that we can't formulate a coherent theory, only rrats.
Oh yeah and the constant doxxing from some racist Phasechuds who got offended because she didn't cared that much about Kirk's death, that was wild LOL
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>>109884197
Openly accepting diverse people, not caring about Kirk's death, etc
A part of Phase Connect's fanbase is really radically racist/homophobic/anythingnotwhitefobic (I don't like admiting it as someone who enjoys some Phase members' streams, but if some of the company fans heard my accent, they'll surely tell me how me and my future descendants deserve hell in life lol), so when they found out she was so openly leftist, they started attacking her
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>>109901005
People still expect Pippa to be the le Chud super based rightoid vchuuba but desu she changed a lot and it genuinely trying to be as much inoffensive and staying low as possible while still occasionally letting herself go wild when she's actually safe.
Kicking her ex-corpomates would be a very retarded thing to do and unnecessary drama. Obviously she's going to stay quiet and nice.
Same with PC as a whole. Sakana tardwrangling Jelly was less about forcing some opinions on her and more about bailing out of potential drama and having her swarmed by rancid leftists.
Ironically that probably what also happened to Clara but instead of accepting that she must sometimes just shut the fuck up, she doubled and tripled up.
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>>109890705
You are retarded. That text bubble about Kirk deserving it isn't Clara. That's the person Clara is replying to. Clara ignored that and just replied about political violence by giving an opinion that Charlie Kirk himself would've given.
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>>109884888
>Broke college student needing to make rent, stops that shit and doesn't go back.
>Trust fund kid who never needed money, but still ends up doing gravure, marries and divorces a Japanese man trying to get a visa, openly posting gross swinger shit on her alt
I'll eat my ban, people really don't emphasize the fact Clara has never had any financial hardship whatsoever and STILL ended up a fucking trainwreck.
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>>109885336
This is a shooped picture spammed by TVAfags. Go compare it to the original stream and it's picrel.
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>>109883886
Unwillingness to get off the soapbox to save her own career
There are other Phase girls who have similar beliefs to her, but they don't try to lecture their audience or talk shit about Phase members who don't share those beliefs
Same reason she refused to be a Phase citizen even though there are no downsides, she just had to get one last virtue signal in on her way out the door
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>>109886904
It was her Valentines stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-mzKRlogNk
She deleted the VOD because it had people saying slurs. The slurs were removed from the unarchived clip but a full copy exists somewhere. Eimi left for a vacation in Japan not long ago. I wouldn't be surprised if she's hanging out with Clara since the two are friends.
>>109896867
They're talking about another rrat. tl;dr: they're buttblasted that Gumbun was active in Eimi's server and have been trying to cancel her (for retweeting the Phase Connect statement immediately after it was made) and so they've been spreading this rrat that it's full of groomers and stuff. The only evidence was that
>Eimi did a Rance 1 stream and had massively inflated viewer numbers
>then partway into the stream she randomly started persistently asking people for hot takes and banned the few retards that said insane shit.
>then she ended the stream and said she wanted people who watch her for her and not people who watch because she's playing the rape man game
It was an admittedly weird stream (I was there) but I don't think the rrat holds water. There was only like one screenshot about this as "proof" that her discord were spamming her and they were the ones who made her end the stream but the screenshot is just one guy talking about it over a week after the stream while everyone else ignores them.
You can watch the Rance stream yourself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRqO4XbpY4s
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>>109897379
>but they were nothing to each other. lia does not trust many vtubers and keeps her circle small, and she did not allow herself to get to know clara for some reason.
This is false and you'd know it if you actually watched her streams.
https://youtu.be/mtPcsCeber4?t=5647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL1ImeCuR9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF37jGqSxHg
etc...
Clara was also there at all the Japan meet-ups whenever Lia flew down to Japan, so she was even there at events like when Phase Origins (Lia, Uruka, Pippa) met Bibi and when Shiina crashed Sakana's car and stuff.
>>109897220
It's just a coincidence. Making jokes about woke is Lia's bit in virtually every stream. She's gay and woke so she makes lots of jokes about being gay and being woke. Same as all the Mexican jokes.
>>109897441
You're reading too much into this. It's kind of been a running gag cause of the whole starknight vs liacon thing.
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>>109884674
I know that someone will be like "hurr durr phasecuck is trying to derail discussion into shitting on ex-VS member hurr durr" but Clara literally reminds me of Melody.
The same toxic pornstar attitude hidden behind the ditzy, retarded girl persona. Hell, even their designs are kind of similar. She's a fucking colorswap of Melody...
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>>109883886
Joining a chud corp while being a far-left polbrained tard has to be the biggest mismatch since Twisty the racist pedo-panderer joining Niji "kill all whites, communism now" sanji.
Cuck connect is a cancer, but she herself also seems like a really rotten personality.
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>>109904100
>then she ended the stream and said she wanted people who watch her for her and not people who watch because she's playing the rape man game
By that logic she should do just chatting streams in perpetuity.
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>>109905006
Exactly.
The issue is not her being left or right because everybody has political opinions. She's just a specific kind of person that can't shut the fuck up. The issue would still be the same if she would be right-leaning and as much retarded and vocal.
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>>109904957
I think she just misinterpreted the situation.
>She had created a twitter alt called hamsterposting where she had been banning chuds, mocking them, while also posting genuinely really funny stuff, so a lot of Phase fans that didn't watch her streams started to pay attention to her (in a positive way).
>Around the same time they'd had Phase awards where they awarded her Dead Hours Destoyer for jumping on when no one was is streaming
>Shortly after she jumped on during dead hours stream and a ton of new people joined her stream and it became the main discussion in /pcg/ and stuff
>During the stream she asked her viewers to vote on what to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwENd7JBfoc&t=850s
>The vote was between some thing she had started watching with her fans on the previous stream and Rance 1 (which in retrospect she might have offered as a joke)
>The chat overwhemlingly voted for Rance and she streamed it for like an hour until someone else went live and dead hours were over
>it kind of just went massively viral and brought in a lot of new viewers, then a few days later she did the part 2 stream that I linked above
I think she didn't realize why she suddenly had so many new viewers and just assumed it was because it's Rance (an old-school Japanese eroge series where the protag rapes a bunch of girls and acts like a dick). So it probably freaked her out and made her decide to purge people.
A few days later Lia streamed the same game but it didn't get nearly as much attention because people were already invested in watching Eimi play it and hoped she would continue.
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Clara didn't drive everyone away. I think people misunderstood what she said in the graduation stream.
>She joined because she wanted genmates.
>They put her in JP branch but as she developed a more EN audience it made it really difficult to collab with her JP genmates, so she felt isolated there and asked to switch to EN but they wouldn't allow it
>She was really active on Discord but "something happened" in May 2024 that led to her muting a bunch of discord channels
>By July 2025 things piled up and felt too mentally unwell to stream so she went on break
>On November 7 (5 days before her comeback stream) she had a conversation that led to her realizing things would never change and she left
She did do a bunch of collabs with a bunch of talents and you can find streams where many talents speak positively of her. She also went to all the meet-ups in Japan and gets mentioned in stories by other talents.
Ultimately, the complaint comes down to her effectively not having a gen and it being difficult for her to connect with other talents. We don't know what happened in May 2024, and it pre-dates every single rrat by so much time that basically no one has any clue. I was looking through a bunch of her collabs and stuff and I noticed that on her channel she initially starts having a bunch of collabs on her channel (including with EN talents like Lumi and Rie) but then after May 2024 she basically completely stops having collabs (on her channel) except for three game collabs where she also streams her POV (Cobblemon, ZORT, and REPO). From May 2024, every collab she does happens on someone else's channel (Pico, Rie, Uruka, Dizzy, Airi, Bonnie Barkswell, Obake Pam, etc..).
The way things played out and the fact it was known she was super active on the Phase discord prior to May 2024 (e.g., the AI Loki stuff) I kind of suspect management told her to stop engaging with EN so much or something.
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>>109905530
>celebrate
You lack reading comprehension. See >>109900372 >>109900397
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>>109905729
My rrat is she might have gotten preachy about some spicy joke someone made in a private section of the Discord.
Probably expecting to get tons of support for 'speaking up against internalized and normalized racism' or some other leftist garbage, instead she got pushback and doubled down.
By the end it was pretty much just Eimi and Pippa (and the JP members who weren't involved) that even really mentioned her.
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>>109905771
From what Pippa said about her on that one stream how they didn't like each other but got along better in person it really did sound like she had a tendency to get into arguments on discord over dumb shit
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>>109901980
>edgy joke about some faggy podcaster dying
>the edgy joke was advocating further violence after the moderate podcaster was assassinated by transgressive assassin
>no one has been debanked, depersoned or anything close to what the right has been suffering for suggesting that maybe mass immigration or covid shut downs are not good
It's so tiresome.
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>My rrat is she might have gotten preachy about some spicy joke someone made in a private section of the Discord.
This doesn't make sense though if you actually knew her sense of humor. Clara had a lot of edgy and dark humor on her streams and stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiJ6JyBAGCs
She had collabs with others until way later and was mentioned by others as well. Picrel is Lia and Eimi looking forward to the cancelled musical stream that Lia talks about in her graduation.
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/1921900471351927050
>>109905781
That was really early on.
https://youtu.be/mC1wR9Q7aTI?t=1631
You can find streams where Shiina and others said similar stuff about Clara when she first joined the company.
https://youtu.be/6GRq9GVXQH0?t=4251
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>>109905820
Because it wasn't doing that, you are just illiterate. See >>109900372 >>109900397
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>>109905939
No, you are illiterate.
>response to: "political violence scary"
>not advocating for it but it's the bedrock of everyone's rights and left in America need to remember the 2nd Amendment is good, actually.
She basically says a Charlie Kirk talking point.
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>>109906336
oh, the second person replying.
>I wish we could all recognize each other's humanity and live peacefully, but I've seen very few on the Right willing to accept people who are different.
>I agree and I always say it but to be clear every day people are not the ones to be angry at.
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It has nothing to do with Kirk. People in the company turned on Clara once she got caught shit talking people behind their backs. Clara showed who she was.
Clara was such a cunt that the usual mild mannered liberal gen1 girl destroyed her.
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>>109906649
chuds caught on, rightly or wrongly, when it became clear that clara hates white people and wants them to not exist anymore. she is an enemy and hates you, why wouldnt you try to do as much damage as possible?
imagine being such an obsessed wokeoid that you anonymously defend a GRADUATED talent in a 4chan pcg
it's funny just watching you writhe. look wokey, it's OVER. clara LOST, and will quietly sing to herself during her 15 minute breaks at mcdonalds from now on
jelly WON, the chud coalition WON, and ultimately as a whole, phase won.
or will you somehow spin this as a victory? go ahead, more laughs for me because i am better than you
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>>109906336
lol OK I think this is proof the guy you are arguing with is just making shit up
I am a forgiving person so she can say whatever she wants. It's just words. but I can't think of anyone else the company would be better off dropping.
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>>109906915
>hates white people and wants them to not exist anymore
Where do you even get your retarded talking points from. You wouldn't be able to convince anyone outside your gay grievance community "waah feminists waah black people waah the gays" in a million years. Are you going to be crying over shadows like some NPC for the next 60 years until you die?
>more laughs for me
I don't think you laugh much at anything, it explains a lot. Best of luck living your cursed existence. But maybe start realizing other people aren't your real problem.
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