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What is your honest and unfiltered opinion on VAllure?
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>>109902197
Strange and awkward middle ground where their porn content doesn’t go far enough to be sexy but gives them all the debuffs of being coomtubers. They should look at what JP vtubers are doing and have sex with eachother.
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Models and designs are hit or miss.
Stream times are absolutely dogshit if you're NA because it's a case of either always watching VODs because the one you picked streams during the day or they stream at midnight and you're forcing yourself into a weird sleep schedule. They're way too afraid of just embracing overlapping each other and streaming during NA primetime
Tend to be overdesigned
They're mostly nice and seem to understand their niche and pic related
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Based no homocollab company policy ruined by being flesh posting whores.
It sucks there's no agency that doesn't either go full shipfagging (Nijisanji) or full whore (Phase Connect) or both (VShojo). When an agency that's in the middle of the road (tard wrangles whore behavior and bans all male interactions) they'll finally give hololive a run for its money.
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besides the redit invasion, vtubing in general isn't conducive to normal 4chan discussion via catalog because vtuber fans disproportionately tend to be hugboxers who cry bitch treats if you point out kawaii-tan who they enjoy watching is a whore who has a bf and grifts. Some fanbases are more extreme than others in this mentality, even retreating totally to secret groomer discords when the heat gets to high in the kitchen.
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>>109902197
As others have said, most people have moved elsewhere, like e*ght and t*wer, as well as other more secluded places like discords.
I think VAllure wanted to be EN's emoechi, but didn't really succeed. It didn't fail either, at least not yet, but I wonder what will happen when Investor-san's money inevitably runs dry.
For instance, I'm supposed to be in the target demographics (male, straight but single and weird, into vtubers and cute girls and chuuni RP, somewhat of a coomer, and I can pay for any of these things if I want) and I'm not subbed to any of them. I was at first (in 2024) but they lost me along the way.
I like the characters and I like some of the girls, but I dislike the company's... artistic direction, or lack thereof, for lack of a better word.
To start with, the models were designed by somebody who doesn't understand anime aesthetics and also commissioned by somebody who doesn't understand anime aesthetics, and that's one of VAllure's original sins.
As far as the girls go, they range from a literal wh*re who barely knew what vtubing was, to a NEET fujoshi who would have felt more at ease in a Brave-owned corpo, and everything in between. And that's the second big problem, a corpo like this is supposed to walk a VERY fine line between all the extremes, but in their case this was left entirely to the streamer. I'm not talking about rules, but direction. (Rules too, in some cases. A candle that burns too brightly will burn out sooner, which is exactly what happened in one case)
Third issue I personally have (but that's just me) is with the professionally produced ASMR on Patreon. They feel very fake. There's a reason I'm into live streaming: even when the girl is clearly putting on a character, she's still doing improv with chat and with the game or topic at hand, which I enjoy more than acting off a script. Otherwise I'd just watch anime. Again, not a fault of the girls (they mostly work hard) but of the company direction.
I'm also restricted on which ones I can watch live, by timezone and circumstances, so my palette was limited to begin with.
Another thing that probably cannot be helped, but affected VAllure more than other corpos, is that the more unseiso quirks you let through, the more you alienate those viewers who are not into it. This is why Holo, the most restrictive environment (they can't even show ungloved hands now) also has the most viewers. For example, I like Stronny's personality, but I'm turned off by burping. And so on.
Hope this helps. You did ask for honest and unfiltered.
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Never followed gen2, but gen1 has been kind of eh. Icey went insane several times and does nothing lewd. Mercy hasn't gone insane and has done nothing lewd. Immy was godlike but stopped months ago. Stronny is stretched thin between her 90 different accounts. Shibi idk last I had seen her IRL photos of her sucking her bf's dick leaked and I was pretty much done with her then.
Oh and you don't see the general here anymore because it moved to the other chan where they have IDs and also discord for small groups of people.
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problem with Vallure is that if you make a company with 15 unknown girls out ouf the blue it looks cheap, like a you want me to support a bunch of random girls who decided they wanted to get money from lonely men.
The 2nd wave rollout was totatally unwarranted imagining "it looks good in my head" move while not realising you made a small company dilute itself into an even smaller company
You need to have strong foundations to introduce new waves, not just give your online friends a contract to sign
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>>109907242
Mercy always seems ready to crash out on Blue Sky. I’m not sure why Stronny picked her as she seems like an awful fit for the agency. It’s like she applied everywhere and settled for the whore corpo. My theory is her random health problems are stress related and she would be better off graduating.
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Remember when Shibi claimed there was a random male voice in her bathroom stream because her neighbor tried to snoop on her? Very obvious she’s lived with her boyfriend for some time and just been trying to hide it from her fans
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Excellent analysis anon
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Immy was great and delivered in every aspect until she entered her e-girl/gamer arc. It led to a dip in her content both stream and video wise. Streams got slightly better after time, but she drank in nearly all of them which made it feel like she didn't care. Videos became repeats of previous ones or something you'd watch once and never again. She used to be good at script writing, it was disappointing to see the slow decline. Her art skills didn't take much of a hit, however she started cutting corners in places which I found upsetting since I know she has the skill to do it right, NSFW content from her became non-existent outside of Patreon, which at the very least I found consistently good even if the script was something I wasn't into. Her normal and alt Twitter turned into mostly Marvel Rivals and Overwatch discussion. It looks like she still posts outfit pictures, but they're primarily SFW and won't do much for you unless you're infatuated with her. Besides that it's meme retweets and occasionally something that could be replied to without coming off as a reply-guy. That's just my experience though. I'll miss her astonishing ass and marvelous moans.
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Immy seems to know what she's doing and she's quite smart and savvy
Stronny is too flesh for me but she also seems to know what she wants to do
Dunno the other ones
Willo was kinda hot voice wise but she was apparently too menhera or something and quit
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>>109902197
I appreciate that they're sort of bridging a gap and proving that lewdtubers can coexist peacefully in the broader small/excorpo circles I frequent. The lewd stuff stays behind closed doors where it belongs, and you can engage with that part as you choose. Outside of that they're just normal girls.
As for not doing more hardcore content, I don't think it's really necessary to compete in a race to the degenerate bottom. You can get any kind of hardcore fetish material you could ever want for free in 3 clicks. It's not a profitable endeavor to debase yourself so.
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I see it in the same way I see super horny "sfw" games like Senran Kagura or these days gacha like Girls Frontline 2, either give me porn or don't.
But there is apparently a market for that so whatever.
What I actively dislike though is that they basically just use the models as front to promote their real bodies on other platforms, kayfabe might be dead in the west already but they spit on it.
I rather watch some vtuber camgirl on a free cam site that gets actually naked as the anime girl where you can hear she probably doesn't cut it in the flesh.
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This is 4chan, if you think being a reddit hugboxer is the norm anywhere on this website rather than brutal honesty/some schizophrenia and autism then you're not just a reddit tourist you're literally a raider from another site trying to change this one to suit your needs. Fuck off and die forever, white knight simpoid faggot. And while I don't know what ho you're simping for, you can take her with you back to your hugbox where insulting your favorite skank is against da roos.
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Phase fans man... pretending to be le ebin oldfags when they aren't even old enough to know Tortanic wasn't an instruction manual or how blue boatds work.
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I'm in love with mine even though shes autistic
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>You need to have strong foundations
I'm not defending Vallure at all, because I don't watch these girls, but it seemed to me that Vallure was financially successful.
In 2024 many people thought, "oh, menhera girls acting lewd on purpose, this company is toast in 3 months". And then they had donothons and made a ton of money in a short time, being able to get new models for everybody, and also sponsor small things. They seem to be doing okay in their niche?
Has that changed? I don't watch them but my impression these past two years was, "they are fine, they may actually survive for a long time, unlike other small corpos that pop up"
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