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What are the best ways for someone with ADHD to learn Japanese?

I'd like to learn Japanese and move to Japan when I graduate college but no tool so far has worked. Can you please help me anon? What programs, courses, or apps do you use?
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>>1558151
Have you tried taking a Japanese language course? It probably gets easier to learn something when you are forced to.
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>>1558151
>I'd like to move to Japan
no you don't. Anime isn't real life and you will learn why Japan has such a high suicide rate.
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>>1558151
>ADHD
for starters you can quit it with that made up bullshit
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>>1558151
Depends on what particularly didn't work for you. In general try recommendations from /int/ DJT or /jp/ DJT.

The rule of thumb is that you need a lot of input, starting as early in the learning process as you can, but the road until you can actually use input effectively is different for everyone.

Some people can just start reading with a dictionary while learning kanji through new learned words. I envy those people, because immersion really is the optimal method if it works for you. I was the other extreme, I had to go through a kanji deck in Anki (Kanjidamage in my case though I ignored their silly mnemonics in favor of my own), Core vocab decks (CorePlus or Core10K), Tae Kim's grammar guides (was good enough for starting out at the time, but now there are better options apparently), and only then I could start reading without endless suffering and migraines. In general, start reading and listening (and writing if that helps you) as soon as possible, usually slightly before you think that you're ready.

ADHD-wise, taking courses or working with a private teacher may help you with accountability and getting some speaking practice, but most of your actual learning and practice will still have to be done on your own, so I guess rely on meds? It's gonna be tough. I don't have a diagnosed ADHD but I have similar enough symptoms and it didn't make the process easy. I don't think there's any trick that works for Japanese in particular that isn't in the generic list of ADHD-related tricks.

But also what >>1558158 said. I have a few friends who don't care and love Japan regardless, but they found high-paying high skill jobs in foreigner-friendly or foreigner-managed companies. Those who tried working in actual Japanese companies or JET or whatever gave up and came back after a few months or a year. You'll also have to be prepared to live a lonely life because Japanese people are pretty darn racist under all of their outward politeness.
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>>1558181
Thank you anon! I'm gonna try more vocab stuff since I already have Tae Kims guide but I haven't read it yet. Do you recommend any apps?
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>>1558198
I'd recommend just googling around and seeing what sticks. In my case it was the good old Anki, it's a bit old-fashioned and "power user"-ish but it works and has a crapton of pre-made decks (and you can easily roll your own decks, which you will have to do sooner or later). You'll have to be careful not to fall into the trap of "just grinding flashcards = learning the language", but this is not a problem you'll have for the first year or two...
Also, for what it's worth textbooks like Genki and whatnot might be worth checking out too, for exercises more than anything. Been learning Finnish recently for reasons and good old textbook exercises helped me a lot. Granted, Japanese grammar is simpler and much of that functionality is in the stupidly huge vocabulary instead, so mileage varies.
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>>1558151
Check Fluent in three months, by Benny Lewis (book)
And Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

God bless
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>>1558151
I can recommend Renshuu. My suggestion, get yourself an otaku nakama and do it with them as a social activity. Even if you only do it with them once a week, it can be a good motivator for the rest of the week.
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>>1558225
This made me think that although my moon isn't that great, I'd consider trying to be something like that to someone to get out of my own rut and depression and start reading/watching/practicing shit again more regularly. But the apprehension of talking to people from 4chan is still there, although I do have a few good offline and online mates I met on /a/ and /m/.
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>>1558228
I feel you, I met my friend IRL. Now you mention it, I think Renshuu has begun adding things like social groups so people can meet on there. Haven't tried it. Could be shit. Your call.
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>>1558213
I'll look into that!
>>1558225
I'm gonna try Renshuu. I can't get a nakama but ty though :3
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People have been talking about this lately to get some kind of a head start
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2701720/Wagotabi_A_Japanese_Journey/

Also anecdotally my first steps into Japanese were made with My Japanese Coach for the Nintendo DS. You're unlikely to learn anything beyond kana and some basic words with it, but it's a decent gamified start too.

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