When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s I read stories about giant skeletons, orphan trains, incubators at world fairs, and other fantastical shit from the 1800s.

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>>41982170
The "Civil War" wasn't even really a war either...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwDzLkwtGaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9RON_--Qc4&t=30s

Picrel is from the civil war and they want you to believe these buildings were destroyed by "fires and cannons"...

Also very peculiar how the Carrington event happened just a couple years before the war kicked off, which makes one believe that both narratives were created to cover-up a cataclysmic event and the raping/pillaging afterwards.

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>>41982189
>orphan trains

Mind Unveiled has great pieces on the orphan trains and "cabbage patch kids"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9CPEyw98g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CnPFjlciLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkpH2_MqGG4

>>41982162
>Tartaria
We wuzz kangs for Russian Boomer

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>>41982247
Exactly why I don't like using the term; clearly not only misused but highly weaponized...

Likely is a glowing and seething faggot.

>>41982247
Yes dude i work for the cia mossad and another shit, suck my foreskin or something retard

>>41982170
doin't yall go dying for jeff bezos or any other bill/trillionaire.
the last civil war was about replacing you with free labor too don't forget it.

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>>41982272

There used to be a mega Russian civilization made of cardboard and plaster, but the evil Westerners flooded it with mud.

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>>41982162
Finally a good thread. The mud flood is one of my favorite theories.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0U02KXJ2Fo

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>>41982313
>mud flood

Here's a mainstream source for the unenlightened and glowfags out there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9P_q3Ocenc

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Here is some of their bullshit I personally came across myself.

On the left is a Getty copyrighted image from 1929 of the GE building and on the right is from Wikipedia itself -- explaining how the building "wasn't completed until 1931".

>>41982268
A conspiracy by Amy other name is just as retarded. Do you have anything going for it other than your "uhhhh, my lack of expertise intuition just tells me that's not right"?

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>>41982566
>by Amy other name
Not addressing you directly, since you actually are retarded, but those who are new/confused by the term.

The various eras of the old world get labelled as "Tartaria" often, which is a related time and civilization, but should be referenced as an overall blanket term.

I believe it was intentionally convoluted, because while Tartaria was part of the old world and likely a massive civilization, it should NOT a single reference case for ALL civilization(s) lost/reset throughout time.

Picrel is of a Star Fort, definitely recommend looking into these and dismantling the bullshit narrative we are told... "Designed by Europeans" yet found all over the fucking world, including India, Japan, the Netherlands, Americas, and even heavily buried/repurposed throughout China.

List of star forts world-wide:

http://www.starforts.com/list.html

Reference media:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvCzaB8bvFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5fwLBjSHX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFDF22dHARM

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>>41982633
>but should NOT be referenced as an overall blanket term***

>>41982633
>India, Japan
No fucking way!!! India, which was ruled by the United Kingdom, and Japan, which copied the West in the 19th century, have European buildings. They must have been the super Russians of Tartaria

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>>41982777
>copied the West in the 19th century

Except the forts in India were said to be built (by Sultans) in the 18th century.. all while your "United Kingdom" was at war with the French, who allegedly first designed these things.

And where did the French supposedly learn how to build them? From their enemies of course, the Italians! lmao

I can understand why Eurofags hate anything against nationalistic narratives, especially considering how insecure the individual themselves must be as well.

For the actual critical thinkers out there, do you notice a reoccurring theme here?

>designed by said peoples who were influenced by said peoples that were inspired by said peoples

"Neoclassical" bullshit at it's finest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqjXbuaGifY

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I always found it ironic how the Cuban capital buildings look exactly the same as every American capital building myself.

>>41982162
Careful these threads being out the c most obvious shills.

>>41982162
CHARLS. CHARLS. STOP WATCHING

THIS

>>41982162
>I don't like referring to it all as "Tartaria"
I like to refer to it as the "Victorian Era", which is an English creation

>and perhaps other countries mimicking them as well, for short periods of time, almost like a fakery, like China does to the U.S.

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>>41983087
Clearly, but that's a good indicator that it's worthwhile.

>>41983164
>30's documenting another world fair from 1915.
>they pan through a scene featuring dilapidated pillars

You have the same shit you will find with any "construction" photos or footage back then... A bunch of men and shit equipment rolling around, but no actual footage of them building anything... other than facades they bring up, which clearly look like shit, so they can make an excuse to finish demolishing whatever they find possible.

Where is the footage of them actually in the process of CONSTRUCTING anything? Scenes of half built (or half destroyed) shit can certainly shed light on either narrative.

P.S. the world's fairs could very well have also been a thing that was part of the old world and salvaged as well. It would certainly make a great facade in itself and give credence towards the reverse engineering that was occurring under the guise of "the industrial revolution".

>>41982223
Oh yeah, my old friend (born 1930) told me about these. A lot of starving farmers put kids up for adoption during the Dust Bowl, others lots parents in WWII. Either way, trains came full of orphans and some kind families took in one or two, and then the train went to the next town

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Examples of salvaged and reverse engineered tech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7EgI-OS-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmOzGxMxis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xej9pHBq-Qs


Tearing apart the repeating narrative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCickAQLyk8

The ultimate AI pill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Myb03TCo4

Speaking of San Francisco, have (You) seen the first (alleged) panoramic photo of the city?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NMVcLdTCBw

Maybe it's me, but that's a shit ton of housing and structures for a population of ~200,000...

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>>41983294
>P.S. the world's fairs could very well have also been a thing that was part of the old world and salvaged as well. It would certainly make a great facade in itself and give credence towards the reverse engineering that was occurring under the guise of "industrial revolutions".

You seemed to completely disregard that point as well, dumbass.

It's likely these fairs were just huge fronts to depict "technological advancements" and "a utopian future" of which everything was taken literally from the past.

The Chicago World's Fair specifically is sus on many levels, considering it happened right in the middle of the great fucking depression... not to mention it was all allegedly concocted by a serial killing con-man? lmao

>muh white gloves and cum-stained apron

That and/or you are still paying off your student loan with nothing to show for it but shit-posting on 4chan.

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>>41983358
You're out of gas and seem to be hung up on world's fairs, so I'll throw you a lifeline... Let's just focus on the most popular fair, that of Chicago 1893.

NO DEFINITIVE Construction date, just stated as 1891 (so to be fair we’ll say 1st January 1891).
Opening date: 1st May 1893
Closing date: 30th October 1893
Total days open: 183

27 million visitors [!!!] equivalent of 147,540 visitors each day

27 million guests over 6 months would require a large amount of hotel/lodging rooms, on site food, toilet facilities, etc, yet at that time many people in cities preferred to live in lodgings or hotel rooms rather than buy their own house, it being far cheaper, so one must question the availability of so many 'spare', or 'empty' lodging/hotel rooms.

Not only that, travel was expensive at that time, it was often slow and laborious, crossing the Atlantic alone could take up to 5 days, then the only other transport was either by train or stagecoach, although they did have trams in the city (likely salvaged as well)..

>Construction "data"
40,000 employees
690 acres, including area along the city’s south lakefront area
150 buildings (14 main buildings)-total floor space of 63 million square feet
Subway total length 6,195ft (1,888m)
75 million board feet of lumber
18,000 tons of iron and steel
120,000 incandescent lights

All works to be completed in just 28 months, of which 9.5 months would have been in the snowy winter period, ground frozen and/or water logged, leaving 18.5 months of, HOPEFULLY, good dry, non windy weather.. in Chicago.
Also, with an average of 58 people per acre, how are we not even seeing more than 5-10 in any given photo?

And where are the blueprints? Not one single fucking blueprint?

Seems to me these (few) "construction" photos are likely depicting deconstruction and include layering models (a technique often used for effects in the 1800s)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXjUzm_EB-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJ4eyuh5ho

>>41983479
>shit wasn't perfectly documented, and I don't work in a field whereby these old, insufficient records of construction and logitics can be adequately assessed therefore muh retardtaria
Are you out of your mind?

>>41983479
Dude it's over, it's all here: https://worldsfairchicago1893.com

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>>41983508
>>41983513
>The Columbian Exposition remains alive today through research and reprints;

Lmao ok

Find me one single blueprint.

Just one.

And not a map, jackass.. but an actual blueprint of ANYTHING.

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>>41982162
>tardaria thread
what exactly are we supposed to see on these images?
all of these looks normal, what incredible are we supposed to see there?

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>>41982162
You’re literally a moron.
btw "the old world", the past civilizations did exist (their remains still exist) but were not technological. In fact, they could have an analogue of modern technology but did not want to. Technologically, they have always been at the pre-industrial level. But they had secret powers of their minds and bodies.

>>41983610
Any architecture from a century ago or before that is ornamental is beyond the ability of current humanity to construct. It was created by a far more advanced civilization a long time ago and has been repurposed or given a facade to hide the truth. A mudflood may also be involved, depends on the poster.
That’s it.
That’s the larp.

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>>41983618
>secret powers of their minds and bodies.

Die tulpa-fag

>>41983628
>Any architecture from a century ago or before that is ornamental is beyond the ability of current humanity to construct.
>A mudflood
>That’s the larp.
holy shit, guys, this larp has to be even more retarded than "space is fake".
we have an actual revelation now that the elites are soul sucking satanists, and for some reason we still have retards saying aliens built the white house.

>>41983628
>That’s the larp.
No, you have too good an opinion of them. They really believe it, they’re just very stupid.

>>41983645
Nailed it.

>>41983645
yup.

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>>41983618
>>41983628
>>41983642
>samefagging this hard

>>41983656((You)

>>41983656
thanks for the bump.

>>41982335
>cathedral = cathode

>>41983666
Unironically should be thanking you! Believe it or not, you are helping quite a bit.

>>41983656
Meds.

>>41983676
i love bumping tardaria and flat earth threads - best entertainment on the whole board.
stupid people make me laugh, i cant help it.

So what does anybody gain out of lying about this "Tartaria" thing?
It can't be cheap to keep everybody in the know silent about it, so what is there to gain out of wasting all that money?

>>41983711
?
silent about what?

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>>41983711
>Old world exists, has insane technology, spiritual knowledge, important information in general
>Old world comes to an end (judgment?)
>Destroy anything and everything of old world, repurpose some things, claim that you made it yourself, etc.
>Make up world history to say whatever you want, now the entire narrative is yours and you can control the population much easier, also they won't question the nature of how things really used to be as well
>Elite glowie plans will now run exactly how you want
Its simple

>>41983726
>it came to me in a dream
k cool.
what amazing and incredible are we supposed to see on that image of a normal building?

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>>41983679
>picrel

>>41983711
The Tartaria shit can be a good introduction to old-world eras and resets, but it’s more of a trap than anything. Like OP says it’s a blanket term these days and convoluted with the world fairs, which is a huge cluster fuck in itself. So yes, it does pay to push the Tartarian narrative to help distract and detract from the real bombshell, which is a completely distorted and fabricated world history.

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>>41983726
This guy gets it and it really doesn’t get any simpler than that.

What organization were the founding fathers of from the major nations? They literally “built” the “new world order” of the “ages”…

>>41983726
>>Make up world history to say whatever you want
Making up 1000+ years of fake history for 5 continents, each with hundreds of countries, each with thousands of towns, cities and villages and making it all make some chronological sense (not to mention writing believable stories for millions of historical figures) sounds like more work than just building all that infrastructure yourself.

>>41983739
there is nothing convoluted in any of this, tardaria is a made up meme.

Is there a definitive, or at least a consistent resource on this topic? Preferably either cited books or documentaries. It’s a gap in my knowledge and I’d like to get at least a thorough foundation before going any deeper.

Also, what’s the end goal here, and for whom? I’m assuming the usual suspects, but to what end? Simply maintaining power over the people? Was the reasoning that the population reached an apex (maybe too close to figuring out the truth) and was then torn back down to ground level to rebuild again until the cycle starts anew? Are there any theories that these eras just fell to natural disasters or are they, presumably all doubtable? If it is a too-close-to-the-truth angle, what’s the over under that we’re heading towards the next one in the wake of the population slowly realising what the fuck the ruling classes have been doing on that island?

Cool topic, suspiciously glowing replies and at least two genuine ESL schizos.

>>41983787
>Is there a definitive, or at least a consistent resource on this topic? Preferably either cited books or documentaries.
nah, its a meme created on reddit, there are no sources or anything to actually read on the subject.
same with flat earth.

>>41983787
>All roads lead to Rome

Myself personally, I believe there were both “natural” and unnatural (forced) resets that wiped out a number of civilizations/eras — with a group of benefactors (so you will) that assume control each time and likely have a connection to the benefactors/rulers before them.

I believe this is the true purpose and meaning behind these so called secret societies we know so well… which coincides with their connections to the Phoenix and rebirth. This is also why we find ritualized death in the catacombs, which is likely where these groups (and others) would seek refuge during said events.

Basically they’d go underground, survive/wait everything out, then return up top to rape and reap the spoils of the cataclysm.

I can’t point to one specific source to this theory, but there is no doubt that Tartaria/Mudflood/Melted-Buildings/Phoenix/Biblical narratives all point to a “reset” in some form or another…

…which seems eerily familiar to the “great reset” bullshit we are hearing and seeing today — what with DUMBs and billionaire underground bunkers being a very real thing.

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>>41983764
I feel like it's mainly for America. The history of the north American continent is very shady, even native Americans will tell a slightly different tale of their history than what the official "history" wardens claim. (pic related)

>>41983787
FWIW — Lucius Aurelian, despite using the term “Tartaria” as a reference point in his videos, is a great source for books and media. He actually was a college history professor who basically got reprimanded one too many times for questioning many academic narratives.

He doesn’t scrutinize with opinions or points, which is why I enjoy him, and just asks questions that I also find myself conjuring during my research.

Jared Boosters is an absolute gem for historical photos all together, that you may not come across through “conventional sources”.

>>41983865
allowing retards to put videos on youtube was the worst thing that could happen to the schizo world.

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>>41983781
>See above about Star forts

Again, you will literally find these all across the planet — with ridiculously contradicting stories — and not one shred of evidence depicting how they were built.

You will even find them repurposed many times over in plain sight.

>>41983880
>but the gov only lies sometimes
>muh gloves and apron
>shiny frontal lobe
>shaIom

Which one is it? Or could it be all four?

>>41983894
>>41983907
>no evidence how X was built
are you sure?
did you actually check?
or just watched a retarded youtube video filled with made up dogshit?

>>41983894
https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/places_creating_statue.htm

And how exactly is this evidence for Tartaria? It's a statue sitting on top of a structure shaped after well known decorative (formerly utilitarian) geometey, and we know exactly how it was put together.

>>41983948
whoa, the tardarian was lying about everything?
gee wiz, who couldve seen this coming.

>>41983856
Ancient white presence in the region is no secret, but that has nothing to do with the concept of Tartaria. Even the very text you quoted says they disappeared, so they couldn't have been arround to build the statue of liberty and the train stations...

>>41983280
that is such a charitable and modern view of it. surely that is what was happening at the tail end. but all reports of the 19th c orphan trains seems to be more like poor mothers, single mothers, people deemed "crazy" and sent to assylum all got their kids stripped of them and sold. It wasn't kind farmers just adopting, the bought those children from ads, they were shipped to them via train, and the kids were used as farm hands not as adopted children to the family. This was slavery by another name and almost as many children were sold this way as africans sold as slaves in the US.

>>41983738
that you see it as a normal building means you are incapable of "getting" it even if interested, which you are not. you are just here to poke fun which only emboldens the belief this is something being hidden. enjoy your shill role, it is more pathetic and transparent to others than you think.

>>41983764
good thing some mediveal monk took care of it, Scaliger, would be a shame if he jammed some extra time in there and repeated some popes and kings..

>>41983946
show is the star fort contrusction then.. show us the plans and the photos. surely its so very easy to find even you could show us. its not like we had to reinvent a type of concrete in modernity to try to repair one of these things in the keys... that would be normal if we built something and then lost the concrete recipe, makes total sense too, right?

what do you think north korea is?
some retarded backwards nation that somehow has nukes but also its population consists of 10th century peasants plowing fields?
not only that but google maps obscures half of it if you zoom too much.
they are the next in line for entering the new world order after they scrub all the remnants of old era's buildings and tech. when every building they can't rewrite the history of is destroyed they will commence some retarded attack on their neighbors and will fight until last man standing (who remembers what was actually happeing) is fucking dead and the country is just miles of scorched earth.
same as american civil war, the great war, ww2...
after that they'll reintegrate into our new world and no one will question those massive parisian style gardens nor red brick roof towns

>>41982162
Well what are we supposed to do about it? Just sit around talking about how things used to be better to demoralize ourselves?

>>41984209
>show me give me show me give me show me give me
motherfucker do at least some work for yourself.
HINT:
>dont use youtube

>>41984209
>that you see it as a normal building means you are incapable of "getting" it
which hallucinogenic drugs i need to take to start "getting it" and start "seeing something" on these normal buildings?
weed? LSD?
or just a ton of vodka?

>>41984234
There are two ways towards beating them; one is to never join them and the other is to prove them wrong…

If there are enough exceptions to the rule, the rule itself becomes invalid.

Prove that you are more than a complacent, self-centered, indentured servant and do something virtuous — or ultimately redeemable — with the power of your wisdom.

>>41984254
You need an iq of 75 or lower. This is out of reach for normal whites.

>>41984234
>>41984266
>Well what are we supposed to do about it?
make actually interesting threads about actually old structures, like pyramids etc.
>NO! IM A FUCKING RETARD AND I WILL INSIST THAT THIS BUILDING FROM 1950 NEW YORK WAS BUILT BY ANCIENT STAR TREK TARDARIANS!
and THAT is called "well poisoning".
its what jews like to do.
>all discussions about actually old civilisations is now a joke, because of these few tardarian fucking RETARDS
thanks rabbi.

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>>41984300
>normal
>white

Wow the shills really hate this topic huh? I've been casually following it for years. Didn't know they were so freaked out about some people noticing.

If you want to have some fun ask the shills how Big Ben and the other large clocks operated before getting "upgrade" to electricity movements. They actually claim some faggots had to reset large weights in those until the 1960s and of course no one has blueprints to show how the original movements would have worked. They expect you to believe they were just over sized grandfather clocks lol.

>>41984427
God have mercy on this poor retard, and grant me the strength to better handle my ever increasing frustration with reddit larp.

>>41984442
>I have no argument
Okay

>>41984427
>>41984452
argument about what?

>>41982162
The before times
I swear they got out off a space craft or time machine then began erasing as much as they could to herd us into pods

>>41984452
There's no argument against deliberate denial.of reality.

>>41984427
Augustus Pugin did the drawings and designs for Big Ben. “Blueprints” did not exist at the time.
The clock workings were a double three-legged gravity escapement.
All of this is well known and documented.
Meds. Take them. Reset that large weight in your head.

>>41984459
You need to get in the pod and not leave it.

>>41984247
nope, the onus is on you, you claimed it.

>>41984254
show us the blueprints, construction photos of any. hell do the math and show how 10k people can build a city out of stone with horses, buggies and hand tools in a couple years. start with the brick math, i'll wait.

>>41984461
well there is, it should be so easy for you. prove reality then.

>>41984462
architectural drawings have been a thing since like forever in modern times https://www.anticstore.art/49376P https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/388701 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/752025

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>>41982162
How many times do you have to be told that it was the millenial kingdom of christ
>REEEE CHRISTIANITY!!!!
I'm not a christian and never will be, it's all saturn demiurge worship, but the time period was the millenial kingdom, that's a fact, jesus was factually ruling as king of the world over a bunch of other monarchies, truth hurts i know poor babies.
>>41983981
>Even the very text you quoted says they disappeared, so they couldn't have been arround to build the statue of liberty and the train stations...
What is this comment?! They had already built up infrastructure around the whole country before leaving
>statue of liberty
that was built by the current group. It's a statue of apollyon.

>>41984462
>>41984461
>>41984456
>we've been winding 4 ton weights by hand that hang from ropes
Sure. I totally believe you.

>>41984487
>architectural drawings have been a thing since like forever in modern times
Yes as I said.
But this idiot said blueprints.>>41984427
>>41984497
No one asked you to. You can simply look up how large clock escapements work instead of claiming Big Ben was built thousands of years ago by advanced super ancestors before they got flooded by mud.

>>41984487
>>41984497
>here is a list of my demands
are we supposed to care.

>>41984494
Absolutely not one single event of everything the bible says would happen in the millennial kingdom has transpired at all.

>>41984535
>>41984544
How does it make you feel knowing that no one falls for your bullshit and everyone can see you for what you are?

>>41984535
There used to be a handful of very interesting documentaries out there on the history of the clock where the inner works of Big Ben get covered fairly extensively. They were (still are?) accessible from youtube, but even if you find the links, they'd immediately say it's ai or s
flat out call it propaganda. It's a losing battle against inferior genetics.

>>41984569
How does it make you feel knowing that no one falls for your bullshit and everyone can see you for what you are?

>>41984606
>shill has resorted to copy/paste
They never send their best.

>>41984600
Ah yes these well known youtube videos. Hosted on that website you fags always claim isn't a valid source because "any schizo can upload videos". Suddenly it's a valid source again if you link to state issued propaganda.

Funny there are extensive documentaries all of the sudden when there is not one picture of the original ropes used to hold those massive 4-ton weights. Or any pictures at all of the inside before about the year 1986 after the "re-model". Of those none of them show the weights. Just the top.

But you expect me to believe they just upsized a grandfather clock movement and it all worked out and ran find for over 100 years. I guess some guy was using horses to wind it every 5 days (assuming it's the same 5 day movement used in most every Grandfather clock). It's almost like I know how Grandfather clocks work because I own more than one and work on them often. Where you're talking out of your ass. Probably why I know upsizing such a movement is fucking retarded and would never work in the real world.

Funny how it recently got "remodeled" again isn't it? They always claim this shit got slapped together in a couple of years but any time they want to change a small part of it they need millions of dollars and years and years of it being offline to do something as simple as changing the light bulbs.

Man you faggots really hate anyone looking into this don't you?

What's your opinion on all the buried floors they keep finding under existing buildings. Or the catacombs and extensive tunnel networks?

I haven't even gotten into the good stuff and you're freaking out because I pointed out the official story on the clock towers is horseshit.

Do you happen to work for Donkeys Incorporated or Shills & Sons?

I'm sick of you annoying faggots ruining every last board. I bet there are only like 5 real people here now.

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>>41984548
>pilgrimage coins for the feast of tabernacles found in rivers all over the world
UH OH
>old maps with a 3 timezone wide continent between russia, hokkaido, and alaska called Terre de Iesso on them
UH OH
>old buildings dated with an I in front of a 3 digit number with the I meaning "in the year of our lord iesso" and the dating acting as a countdown to the end of the millenium
UH OH
>nations that did not attend the feast of tabernacles would be hit with droughts. Hm, which nations are desert nations? Oh! nearly all the muslim ones
UH OH
>countless stories and pieces of art dedicated to saints with superpowers. There's the hagiography which literally documents the saints and their powers
UH OH
Sorry christcuck, looks like the millenial reign of christ already happened, and YOU missed out bahahaha!

>>41984634
None of these things are promised for the millennial reign. Read the bible you animal.

>>41984664
Oh? Please enlighten me on what the bible says on the millenial reign. Because I certainly addressed the pilgramage, the droughts, and the ruling saints in glorified bodies.

>>41984686
>Because I certainly addressed the pilgramage
No you haven't. Let's see the receipts.

>the droughts
A drought is not the same as a perpetual desolation like the deserts are. And all non-christian nations today would be desolations if that was the standard.

>and the ruling saints in glorified bodies.
Extrabiblical depictions of a promised event is not the same as proof of the actual event.

>>41982633
>Star Fort
Like with pyramids, effective structural shapes are commonly found in different civilizations.

>>41984715
You said
>None of these things are promised for the millennial reign.
That was factually incorrect. I showed you examples of things that are in fact in the bible. The pilgrimage, the droughts, and ruling saints ARE in the FUCKING bible. You said they are NOT. Maybe YOU need to read the bible. I don't care if you disagree with the veracity of my claims, the fact stands that you said those things are NOT in the bible when they in fact ARE.

>>41984623
when people see a link to a youtube video instead of a simple reply, you can be 100% sure that this youtube video is just some cringe idiotic dogshit.
its always the case with any/all tardaria or pizza earth.

>brown people still think that white peoples architecture is magic
god damn it feels great to be white.

>>41983787
>suspiciously glowing replies
Ah yes, the response to people not agreeing with you.

>>41984769
No, you weren't originally arguing the veracity of my claims. You were saying that those things weren't mentioned in the bible. They are. You're now trying to deflect by making it seem like this argument was always about the veracity of my claims. Also, your line here
>Extrabiblical depictions of a promised event is not the same as proof of the actual event.
Wow, you're right. If it's not in the bible, it's not true lolol. But I suppose you're okay with twisting the words of jesus when he said that the 7 seals and beast system would happen in "this" generation(the one he was talking too) to actually mean our current time.

>>41984305
this.
tardaria is just jewish well poisoning so actual topics like pyramids will be considered schizo.

>>41984487
>start with the brick math
wut?

>>41984623
>They always claim this shit got slapped together in a couple of years
I suppose 13 years is just a couple of years, yeah.
>any time they want to change a small part of it they need millions of dollars and years and years of it being offline to do something as simple as changing the light bulbs
Except they also replaced most of the masonry, the whole roof, completely replace the paint, fixed a lot of ww2 era damage they didn't even know existed until halfway through the project and added an elevator.
>I guess some guy was using horses to wind it every 5 days
Until electricity was a thing you had people whose job was to wander the streets in the afternoon and light up all the streetlights by hand and then extinguish them in the morning. There were also people whose job was to knock on the windows of workers to wake them up for work in the morning. Why would this be weird?
>Man you faggots really hate anyone looking into this don't you?
Nah, I just hate anyone who are overly misanthropic for no real reason other than their own stupidity (or maybe some form of projection)
>lol you guys, we would never be able to build anything like that, we are just too dumb and stupid for it!

>>41984623
>guys this 1950's building in america was actually built by aliens or something
..........what?

>>41982427
China is building 30 story apartments in 1 day. Your point?

>>41982633
wouldn't that water be stagnant?

>>41984889
>the bible doesn't support what you're implying here at all.
>In Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32, Jesus stated, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place"
>If it contradicts the biblical narrative, it's bullshit. Big difference.
In what world would depictions of saints ruling in glorified bodies contradict the biblical narrative? It's literally what the bible said would happen in the millenial reign.
>Nope, it is about the veracity of your claims. If you cannot substantiate them, then they are not to be taken seriously.
It wasn't in the context you were arguing. I don't mind debating these claims. But you were making false claims and then jumping onto other things.
>You said shit like "old maps with a 3 timezone wide continent between russia, hokkaido, and alaska called Terre de Iesso on them", wtf is that even supposed to mean? Not a millennial promise
Fair, but I specifically mentioned the things that are mentioned in the bible when addressing your claim.
>You also misunderstood drought for desert, which's not a millennial promise either.
What do you think happens to a region that receives no rainfall for 1000 years?

>>41984810
brick

math

did i stutter?

>>41985000
>brick math
lmao

>>41982832
There are always practical limits to the influence of war on trade and tradespeople. Nothing precludes knowledge from having been exchanged among artisans or the educated elite of different nations at the time.

>>41985036
so you can't do it? can't entertain the idea even? ok.. who is the retard now?

these buildings are so explainable, do the fucking brick math pleb.

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>>41983838
>Basically they’d go underground, survive/wait everything out, then return up top to rape and reap the spoils of the cataclysm.
You wanna talk underground cities? The old city of Derinkiyu in Turkey is fucking wild. Archaeologists say it's from the 8th century BC and could support not just 20,000 people, but their livestock and everything else too. And it's not the only underground city in Turkey, or even the biggest. Özkonak could supposedly house up to 60,000 people.

>>41985120
>do the fucking brick math pleb.
>(average bricks per building) x (number of buildings) / (number of bricks 10k people can move with horses) = (days needed to build the city)
Honestly, though the idea that you'd put numbers to it is hilarious I don't think the answer would be unrealistic.

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>>41985649
Yep and don't forget Malta, which was likely an elite refugee island at one point.

>>41985804
yep, so put the numbers there, you end up with some crazy speed needed, or more hands, or machines. these buildings weren't built over decades but founded in mere years sometimes less.

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>>41984427
Should be painfully obvious why it's targeted and hit so hard every time it comes up; it connects everything.

>history
>science
>religion
>geography
>nationalities
>wealthy elites
>the ruling powers
>our very fucking existence

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>>41985988
Yep.. the GE building is a great example and said to have been completed in just 2 years lmao

Like the post earlier in the thread shows, there is a Getty image literally copyrighted before it's "planning date"!

>>41982427

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DONT LET IT SLIDE BOYS

>>41985988
So what numbers do you have?

Anyone see Steamboy? It gets really good after the first fifteen minutes.

real thread bump

>>41984822
when you don’t know jack you can make shit up. he’d be laughed out of a sophomore architecture classroom immediately for ignoring causal chains and history that are obvious to those with passing knowledge. but this is the delusion board

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Map Of The Caribbean 1578.

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>Reinando el senor don fernando vii
>siedno presidente y gobernador
>don francisco dionisio vives
>la fidelisima habana religiosa y pacifica
>erigio este sencillo monumento
>decorando el sitio donde el ano de 1519
>se celebro la primera misa y cabildo
>el obispodon juan jose diaz de espada
>solemnizo el mismo augusto sacrificio
>el dia 19 de marzo de 1828
Reigning Don Fernando VII
Siedno President and Governor Mr. Francisco Dionisio Vives
The most faithful religious and peaceful Havana
erected this simple monument decorating the site where the year 1519
The first mass and chapter was celebrated
Bishop Juan José Díaz de Espada solemnized the same august sacrifice on March 19, 1828

>>41985991
Your greentext is unrelated as none of that connects,

>>41984822
>shit he didn't say
>>41988086
>he's get laughed out of adult day care!
LMAO they REALLY hate this topic don't they?

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USS Maine National Monument

>>41982189
you reminded me of Jules Verne being depressed and a friend of his dragged him to the Paris world fair... it practically re-launched his career with all the inspiration he found there

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2026/01/35.03-MU-Podcast-The-Short-Season/
This was an interesting topic. Not to say I necessarily believe any of it.

>>41988202
Topic gets replies
>the one world super order who are hiding the ancient civilization are angry!
Make it make sense schizo anon.
>>41988096
>>41988216
And? What is the point posting these? What’s parnormal about them?

>>41988096
cool map

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>>41983894
Yup. Starforts are definitely old-world stuff too.

>>41988940
>white architecture
god damn it feels great to be white.

>>41988940
Originating to 1593 and we know the construction was ordered by William 1st of Orange and why he built it.
Nothing very strange going on here.

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>>41989067
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>>41989075
white people are so awesome.

>>41989088
respecting contracts being a norm, and paying taxes directly to the Emperor/King/Prince instead of some shady "yeah bro we'll remember you paid ;)" does wonders for investing your time and sweat to making your fellow humans have a better life... because you know they do the same
that got eroded with Napoleon and then WW1 (not even to mention WW2) and we're practically "asian" now (which was used as an insult for people relying on intimidation and financial shenanigans)

>>41983246
When was this mud flood supposed to have happened? My dad grew up surrounded by family members that were alive during the civil war and nobody remembered any mud flood…

If old world was so badass why did it die and get subverted to jewish bankers ?

>>41989342
nobody even knows what a mud flood is, its some imaginary cataclysm that never happened.

>>41989357
I figured as much. I have oak trees around here that are 400+ years old and you can clearly see where they start. They’re not buried under feet of mud/ dirt. The roots start right where they have probably been since the tree first started growing

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>>41988975
You are talking to people that are looking for excuses to believe a fantasy, not for any truth.

>>41988975
>>41989439
Some of those were made in america at alleged times where there was no reason for them to exist...

>>41992078
There was no time in America when ballistics were not part of war.
America did not exist until after star forts were invented.

modern buildings are shitty scam boxes and most educated professional people are poorer and worse off than a medieval peasant

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>>41982205
Yes squat, artillery barrages and the accompanying conflagrations would fit nicely in the bad thing category.

>>41982427
Which is more likely, that every cited reference for the wiki article is wrong or that the photo shilling company fucked up the date?

>>41983525
https://www.hydeparkhistory.org/blog/2020/11/17/from-swamps-to-parks-building-chicagos-public-spaces

>>41984427
Not available to the public =/= doesn't exist, assuming they were even saved.

>>41984487
Ok smart guy, how many courses of brick over a given area can a crew lay in a day?

old world blues

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>shitposting on a magic rectangle that's filled with millions of tiny molecular cityscapes directing energy flow about how modern humanity doesn't have the capability to build a pretty building anymore

w

>>41997969
We can't build roads any more either

geopolymer

Tartaria shit is pure cringe. Tartaria is just a term for asiatic shitholes. There is no mystery.

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>>42001258
>relevant thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9im8To6KGOg

>>41982162
Tartaria is a psy-op to bury rational recentism in particular Anatoli Fomenko.

>>42008645
Agreed and to cover-up the old-world eras.

See how clever they are? They drop some truths convoluted with a bunch of bullshit and weaponize it with a word such as "Tartaria". Unfortunately, many of the sources these days covering the Old World are falling for the "Tartaria" op.

Fomenko definitely has a lot of great theories as well... and just as he claims, all of mainstream history is a complete lie.

>>42008686
Take your meds and stop your disinformation. You are the actual glowing object.

>>41982162
Tartaria is basically an Atlantis like conspiracy that someone created 1300 years after a global nuclear apocalypse and is literally true, except it happened a hundred years ago and you can ask some old guy about his great-grandfather etc and there is documentation everywhere.

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I miss the late 1800s, all the coke you could see everywhere
also peak time for early earth mysteries schools

If only the tartaria movement had chosen a different name. Instead of seeing how it's fundamentally a study into the historical natrratives on old world architecture, the average retard just gets filtered by the term "Tartaria", dismisses all of the research, and goes no further than that.

>>42009892
tartaria (the name) is a well poisoning by glowniggers. why else would they photoshop century old photos removing any moonlight tower in them for any other reason then scrubbing it from minds of plebs?

>>41982162
Man, this just makes me miserable. Euro empires were peak culture and globe spanning, and now we've fallen so far that people don't believe our ancestors could've managed it, and it must've been done by someone else.

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>>41983894
> > And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
>
> The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
>
> -Romans 13:11-12

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>>41982205
It was theater. They mocked it by killing Abe in one. Lincoln was an actor who played both presidents. See Jefferson Davis

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Jon Levi is a freemason and Tartaria isn't real.

The irony of these people will claim history isn't real yet will insist that 200 years ago people were being cloned and that the Earth was ruled by a global empire that despite lasting for thousands of years and not going away until the early 1900's, we find absolutely no evidence for existence besides a few maps of mis-naming Asia .

Truthers are schizophrenic-narcissist.

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>>41982162
It's endemic to a larger issue. Civilization has reached the high water mark over and over again, perhaps industrializing dozens or hundreds of times over the last few hundred thousand years. Due to the volatility of the Earth's surface it's very difficult to say exactly how many times this has happened and for how long.
I'd argue the main reason this is suppressed is simply because many of these civilizations are still around in some form; perhaps hidden as breakaways, embedded in elite society, or around other stars. It's far easier for the narrative to label them all as 'aliens' and align them under that disinfo campaign.

>>42012332
>Tartaria isn't real
It's all evidence of the millenial kingdom, not a christian btw, but it just is what it is
>Jon Levi is a freemason
Is he? Evidence? I've never liked his videos, think he's only popular because of his voice. His videos are always extremely lazy and lead nowhere.

t

Should have looked for to the East for clues

>>42012332
>absolutely no evidence for
There are identical structures with.their architecture all over the entire planet you absolute silly billy.

>>41983819
shut up glowie

>>42018912
He’s right though.
Making up fake history? Mud flood that never happened? Now that’s actually glowing.

>>41989088
50% are below average

>>42019564
Did you flush a toilet today? You're welcome.

>>42019569
you didn't do that

>>42019578
You couldn't.

>>41989088
havana? so spaniards->swarthy mediterraneans->white?

>>42019583
you didn't invent anything how would i thank you

>>41982162
I love the idea, but glowies and bad schizos (as opposed to the good ones) already ruined the thread
I don't care if this is boomer conspiracy, it's comfy, and I love history

>>42020041
>this is fake and I enjoy it
You could just read some fictional novels bro. Inconsistent larp battles are not comfy.

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>>42022348
>akshually you must believe history is 100% as we understand it and that nobody has ever lied about the technological level of conquered empires
>I will now dictate this position to strangers on 4chan vehemently

There's enormous amounts of evidence that classical and ancient civilizations had advancements far beyond what the record shows. There's so much evidence that your behavior is highly suspect in light of the facts.
Glow harder.

>>42022597
>askhooooaly you must believe what I say when I say there is MASSIVE EVIDENCE.
You can’t be a glowie. You would not meet the tests.
Enormous amounts of evidence you say? Strange that you can’t supply even one tiny bit.
Give up larper. You are fucking dumb.

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>>42022658
>you can’t supply even one tiny bit
The image I replied with is a Peruvian warrior skull of a man who suffered a massive cranial fracture and survived thanks to the metallic surgical implant.
This was done over 2,000 years ago.
The next time in recorded history we would repair a cranial fracture using a metal implant was in the late 1960s.
Plenty of other examples; like Old Kingdom Egyptian medical texts describing spinal surgeries where they knew which specific nerve fibers within the spinal bundle led to which parts of the body.
Now, will you admit you were blatantly and demonstrably wrong with your accusation or will you become even more emotional?

>>42022720
So you are telling me that cranial surgery, which is known to have happened for thousands of years, is somehow a lost technology. It’s been done for thousands of years? It’s known. It’s been done for thousands of years.
It has been done at other times. Pre-Colombian societies did it - they sometimes used gold.
It happened in Victorian era. They even tried aluminium.
It never went away. It’s not lost.
You are not even talking about the same topic anymore.
You are lost. You are without substance. Give up bro.
You have no evidence that classical and ancient societies have advancements far beyond what the record shows.
You have evidence they have stuff that is exactly what the records shows.

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>>42022743
Trepination is not remotely the same as intervention to resolve massive cranial trauma.
The Incan empire began in the mid 15th century. What I shared is over 2,000 years old.
>It happened in Victorian era. They even tried aluminium.
Please show some evidence for your claim.
>You are not even talking about the same topic anymore.
Oh, I certainly am. And we both know it.
Lying is indicative of intentions.

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>>42022348
>>42022658
>>42022743
>trying this hard getting this upset and lying this much to push a narrative you shouldn't care about at all if you thought the idea was actually fake

>>42022759
Please give more evidence that this stuff that happened is a lost technology bro.
Please provide more evidence bro.
Maybe you want to stop bro.
These things happened bro.
>>42022769
I am enjoying his idiocy to be honest.
It’s got to the point where things that age documented as having happened are now claimed as….evidence of things that are lost!

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>>42022786
> or will you become even more emotional?
It's ok to be wrong. Unless you have an agenda. Then every incorrect claim must necessarily devolve into increasingly bombastic self-reports.

>>42022759
https://thejns.org/focus/view/journals/neurosurg-focus/36/4/article-pE20.pdf

>>42022786
Nobody said the technology is "lost." Weird behavior from someone who's sure the official narrative doesn't need to be questioned, anon

>>42022796
>appealing to emotion
You are just avoiding the fact that criminal surgery has happened for thousands of years.
Bizarrely you supply evidence that it’s happened for thousands of years.

>>42022802
So what are you saying?
You don’t even know.
It seems to be skull surgery happened once. Then happened again.
What does this even have to do with OP.

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>>42022798
Again, all instances refer to repair of birth defects, not massive cranial trauma, and all in the past 400 years at most.
Proved my point. And your need to scramble and give multiple replies, none of which support your claims or refute mine, is a telling degree of desperation.

>>42022803
>criminal surgery
Whoops I mean cranial.
Sorrry. Must be my emotions oh god lmao.

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>>42022810
We aren't talking about "cranial surgery." I gave the example of metallic implants used in cranial trauma intervention. You're strawmanning.

>>42022809
Woooah there bro.
Hold up.
Skull surgery is skull surgery,
You are deflecting.
400 years ago isn’t 1960 either.
Your claim is still
>skull surgery happened a long time ago
Ok.
That’s amazing bro.
And we know about it.
So what’s your claim.
We forgot?
How could we?
We remember it. Even got evidence.

>>42022814
>we aren’t talking about cranial surgery
>but we are talking about our cranial surgery!
Interesting. Did you have cranial surgery when you were young?
Maybe fell off a building we can no longer build?
Did the mudflood cushion the fall?

>>42022806
Nta buddy. I'm saying its weird that you care so much about something if its so obviously false
Maybe you should ask people what their point is before you make up arguments about unrelated stuff like an angry child

>>42022815
>Your claim is still
>skull surgery happened a long time ago
No it's not, obviously. I don't debate illiterates and the emotionally stunted.

>>42022820
>you dare to discuss a topic!
>in a way I don’t like!
Holy shit. I thought this was a discussion board. I’m sorry, I didn’t realise spreading lies was the goal. I’m just not like you bro. You glow in the dark and it’s blinding.

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>>42022815
>>42022819
Every single time

>>42022822
You can stop posting any time.
I think you might have some metal stuck in your head.

>>42022824
>maybe if I call the people acting normally a fed my unhinged behavior will seem more palatable
Man I would hate to be like you and go into these fits of rage every time I get proven wrong. Must be exhausting

>>42022825
>it’s upset
Sorry anon, I just don’t see the need to make up shit like you.

>>42022828
That has never happened.
I’ve been right every time.
I can’t really see hoe you think I’m mad. I’m enjoying this. It’s fun to laugh at you.

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>>42022827
>>42022830
>gets proven wrong
>melts down
Doesn't seem worth it

>>42022658
>Enormous amounts of evidence you say? Strange that you can’t supply even one tiny bit.

You said he can't provide evidence and he did. Whether it was valid or not is irrelevant.
You were wrong.

>>42022836
What is it I’m proven wrong about?
Can you even tell?
This thread has jumped from typical architecture Tartarian (we forgot how to make it) to bogus claims about a whole bunch of things that clearly were not lost.
You can’t even stick to your agenda for the larp.
You’ve got to the point where it’s just
>h-hes a glowie
>h-hes wrong
Give up. You lost. Go find a recent building and get confused about how it is simply impossible for us to build it. Kek.

>>42022840
>he provided irrelevant evidence!
Holy shit my sides.
You might actually be from a lost civilization of retards.

>>42022846
You said he can't provide evidence and he did. Full stop. You were wrong. There's no debate, you lost your head over it and now you're throwing a tantrum

>tardaria
dumbest fucking threads on this entire board.
what the hell is wrong with you people?

>>42022851
>>42022855
Acting this way is taking time off your life. Think about it.

>>42022859
>Acting this way
what way?

>>42022855
Conspiracies are fun,
But this one is not good because most of the stuff posted is just well known building from the last couple of centuries. It’s also generally just an insult to people with skills who can do stuff.
>>41984427 for example building clocks is apparently beyond human comprehension.

>>42022867
conspiracies are awesome, but some things are just too retarded to even be a concept.
like tardaria, or DVD earth.

>>42022859
>please stop posting stuff I don’t like
It’s true I could be designing buildings that are not feasible with our limited human knowledge but somehow seem to be everywhere.

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>>42022867
>Conspiracies are fun,
>>42022869
>conspiracies are awesome,
Glow harder

>>42022873
?

>>42022871
>please argue about this strawman so I can forget that I was just proven wrong

Lol feds having another aneurism over their bullshit timeline being questioned
You lost

>>42022873
>>42022880
Federal Secret Agent John Epstein here, shalom.
It is super important for the Secret Jewish Illimunati Cabal to hide Tardaria from the goyim.
We are sending a squad of mossad to your house right now.
Do not leave your premises.

>>42022873
Different poster anon.
Different words and stuff.
I think it’s fun.
It’s just a shame it’s retarded. But you aren’t exactly contributing to it are you.
>>42022879
I was proved right though,
Every single time.
Watch out bro, the aliens might still be asleep beneath the mighty neo-classical structures that they build just a decades ago.

>>42022880
Please tell me more of the alternative timeline laprman. Which millennium did the old world get MUDDED?
You may need to make many different extinction events. It’s hard. You might not be up to it.

>tartaria
>aliens built the pyramids
Feds really have no cards do they

>>42022890
I can’t tell if you are making those claims or laughing at them anymore. Best thread. Worst subject.

>>42022880
whats a "mud flood"?
>its raining mud
?????????

>>42022890
Nope. And they're scared, more so than usual

>>42022898
Why would anyone be scared of something that you can’t even define and has no agreement on?
There is no defined Tartarian larp. It’s a bunch of schizos claiming different things.
It seems to be
>old stuff impossible!
For things that are clearly possible.

>>42022898
CIA glowie here, shalom.
Yes, its terrifying, the goyim will thanks to you find out about the mud rains and the Tardarian technological empire.
Oy vey, our illuminati cabal is in danger!

>>41983618
into the gaschamber, schlomo

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>the tardaria schizo actually ran away because he thinks real CIA glowies:
>>42022884
>>42022915
are monitoring this thread.

>people won't reply to my childish spergout
>they ran away!!
Living a life without purpose direction or values must be quite an experience

>>42022786
>gets proven wrong
>flips the fuck out
Lel

>>42024596
Your green text is the opposite of what happened.
I enjoy this general of lies.
You must be mad to think I am mad.
Be at peace like me. I don’t need to larp.

>>42024705
Nobody said you were mad I said you were proven wrong, schizophrenic-anon

>>42022720
>>42022759
Completely owned him.
Don't even get me started on Peru. The anthropological narrative around the Paracas is so nonsensical it can't even agree with itself. Similar situation as Malaysia

>>42024705
>inadvertently gets proven wrong again about his own statement
Lmao

>there used to be a mega star trek russian civilization but evil western mud flood destroy it
Yeah

>>42025719
>I can't argue about the obvious problems in the historical narrative so I'll make up strawmen
Yeah

>>41984427
Fuck off glowie, tartaria is boring and 2ez to debunk

>>42026084
>OP explicitly says this thread isn't about "tartaria"
>I love deboonking (but I won't ever argue about anything objective)
You're losing and everyone knows it

>>41983726
That building is fucking beautiful.

>>42012509
Kinda like the 4th Reich under Antarctica?

Can anyone rec any specific /lit/ on this topic?

>>42024755
You owned yourself by bringing Peru and Malaysia into it. Turdtarians always have to bring in more and more unrelated shit rather than sticking to one thing,

Humanity simply CANNOT build clock towers and there was not an American Civil war. Most of the world is covered in mud which hides some buildings. Anything that is star shaped is produced by an ancient super powered world spanning country, cranial implants were impossible for old civilisations even though they happened.
Also Peru or something and basically any decorative building was not built by us.
Holy meds. Take them.

>>42026226
No, they are kicking your ass, and it is obvious your "hurrr dey said not tartaria' just means you want to talk it without all the counter evidence already destroying it.

You want to say otherwise?
Go ahead and describe in your words all the ways Tartaria' is bullshit.

>>41982832
Star forts would have passed along from the Ottoman experience with them over the centuries. Part of the reason the empire failed was it never really innovated after certain points.

>>42027485
>>42027598
>>42027627
>72 hour emotional meltdown over a topic he "doesn't care about"
You were proven wrong multiple times and that's OK. The only reason someone would continue in this manner is because they have an agenda.

>>42027627
I will just leave it to >>42027598
Tartaria is cancer.
>>42027953
I love it. Schizos are funny,

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>>42027309
Depends on what part of the world and time period you're interested in. How familiar are you with the related topics in general? Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings is a good starting point, as is Hamlet's Mill.
If you're more interested in the specifics of the Central Asian traditions and already familiar with the ancient alternative theories, a good selection is Beasts Men and Gods by Ossendowski.
All above titles are on the internet archive.

Fulcanelli's various works are classic on deeper investigation on European architecture but it's highly semantic and academic.
Keith Hamilton also has some very enlightening studies of Egyptian architecture from a highly practical surveyor's standpoint. He has documented most sites and his work is available in academic journals. John Anthony West's Serpent in the Sky is also a foundational work that deals with the many anomalies of Egyptian civilizational knowledge.

A more generalist work on architecture throughout the epochs is The Temple in Man by Lubicz.
For large scope and brevity with good introductory information, there's Secrets of Lost Empires by Barnes, Brightwell, Hagen, Lehner and Page.
Another interesting treatment of the intersection between technology and these empires is Anti Gravity and the World Grid by Childress.

>>42027627
>>42027956
Nobody cares. You're emotional, you can't argue, you repeat yourself for days without ever making a point. Get a job

>>42028027
Stop being emotional sis.
You are raging and seething out of control.
You can’t even define what Tartaria is.
Here’s a point
>Humans built all the buildings in this thread during the timeframe that is mainstream
>humans can build clock towers
Take your meds.

>>41983087
>Careful these threads being out the c most obvious shills.
This aged well.

>>42028027
If you reply you care.

>>42028036
>muh glowies
Anyone pushing Tartaria is the real glowie.

>>42028033
>Humans built all the buildings in this thread during the timeframe that is mainstream
Point to any post in this thread that claims otherwise.
>>42028037
Stop samefagging

>>42028039
Nobody is pushing anything but you. We're having a discussion you're having an emotional meltdown.
Shilling doesn't definitively mean you're a fed.

Another 2 things you were wrong about. The list is getting long.

>>42028040
Are you fucking nuts? The buildings being from a different era is the main point.
>>41988940 - claimed to be an “old world starfort”. We know when it was built.
All the other star forts are allegedly “old world” too
>>41989067
>>41986007 - date disputed on this.
>>41985649- an entire fucking city date disputed.
I came even be bothered to look at the rest. What thread are you even in? What version of Tartaria are you larping?
I can’t link any more as 4chan won’t let me.

>>42028045
You are not discussing, you are just pushing that anyone who questions Tartaria must be shut down. Most glowing behaviour possible.
>we
So you are an organised group now. How do you sleep at night when you glow this bright?

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>>42028052
>The buildings being from a different era is the main point.
No post anywhere in the entire thread claims these buildings are from a different time period

>date disputed on this.
But not a different timeframe.
>an entire fucking city date disputed.
His words were:
>Archaeologists say it's from the 8th century BC and could support not just 20,000 people, but their livestock and everything else too.
That is not a refutation at all.

It's like you're being wrong intentionally. Or is it a literacy issue?

>>42028056
>gets proven wrong repeatedly

>>42028062
Every post about a building here is claiming it was built at a different time to the mainstream claim.
I am right every time, you are out of control wrong on all of this.
Your replies are just meme tier and an excuse to try insults.
>>42028065
Right every time.
Provide a single bit of proof of Tartaria/old world - at this point you don’t even have a cohesive larp and I have to combine both because you might pull out a map with Tartaria on it. Those exist but they aren’t your larp.
Go for it.
Burden of proof is on you with the absurd claim.

>>42028062
That old world is not your old world.
Your old world is a mighty
civilisation with powerful tech.The Bronze Age is not your larp. That happened.
This is an attempt to derail.

>>42028079
>Humans built all the buildings in this thread during the timeframe that is mainstream
>The buildings being from a different era is the main point.
>timeframe that is mainstream
>different era

They're your words.
"Different time" is not the same thing as "timeframe" or "era." 30 seconds is a "different time." Eras are defined by lifetimes of people and institutions.
You have no idea what you're arguing about. I'm not insulting you in any way, so you're also wrong about that. Objectively.

>>42028081
The "old world" is defined as the entirety of human civilization prior to the European conquest of the Americas and after the bronze age.

Being wrong about something so simple. Very discouraging.

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guys, if you want to discuss OLD WORLD and ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS, how bout you post something ACTUALLY FUCKING OLD, like..... the pyramids? or the fucking..... i dunno..... easter island heads? stonehenge?

>NO!
>I AM POSTING A PICTURE OF A BUILDING FROM 1940 SAYING ANCIENT KLINGONS BUILT IT USING SUPER GAZOOMBA QUANTUM TECHNOLOGY

then dont cry when people call you a retard.

>>42028087
>>42028092
You aren’t even discussing the paranormal anymore. You are actually trying to avoid the central claims of the Tartaria larp.
The definition of old world is agreed on.
The old world being a mighty civilization with wonders hidden below a mud flood or whatever is the larp and the mainstream narrative is wrong.
So you agree with that or not?
It seems you will go out of your way to argue about anything other than the topic now. You are scared. You are like the flat earth threads. Constantly shifting due to nothing,

>>42028121
I'm correcting you for being wrong, on the topic.
You said people were reframing the era of construction of buildings posted in this thread. That was wrong.
You were wrong about the meaning of a very simple term that the discussion hinges on.
You just conceded you don't understand the premise of the thread in a new (third) way:
>or whatever is the larp
So you have no idea what this thread is about and are arguing with your own lack of awareness.