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/loa/ — Law of Assumption & Subjective Reality Manifestation General 02/21/26(Sat)18:21:43 No.42005212
/loa/ — Law of Assumption & Subjective Reality Manifestation General 02/21/26(Sat)18:21:43 No.42005212
/loa/ — Law of Assumption & Subjective Reality Manifestation General Anonymous 02/21/26(Sat)18:21:43 No.42005212 [Reply]▶
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Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.
The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.
Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.
The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)
> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.
> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6
> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms
> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.
Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q
> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM [Embed] [Embed]
> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds [Embed] [Embed]
—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S
> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf
> /one/ - Oneiromancer
https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0
> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg
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>>42005212
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys
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>>42005235
you're not doing something you are assuming it into being you assume it's not working or hasn't worked it won't
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>>42005235
triumphantgeorge, who wrote the 2 glasses method, said it's meant for very unlikely things still within the realm of probability, not time-alteration. Realistically, you'd would need to find a way to detach from the subconscious "this shit isn't gonna work/this is fantastical" feeling that's been nailed into you since childhood. It's the forced resignation feeling you felt when you tried asking your mom for something after she said no twice, or the feeling desperately wishing for school to suddenly be cancelled the day before some test.
Also don't throw around the term revision relating to past manifests, there's a thread schizo who derails talking about how Neville never meant for it to actually change the past and its just a limiting belief thing, which may be true but you can't say Neville didn't believe in supernatural manifests since he literally did bilocation and claimed others saw him.
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>>42005654
That makes more sense. So, if I assume that it will happen or has already happened, it simply happens?
>>42005670
What are some ways to detach from this subconscious feeling of forced resignation?
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Why don't most men manifest sex if they think and fantasize about it a lot? I've also noticed that 90% of posts where someone manifests a special person or love interest is made by women. Do you think that men could actually manifest a woman lusting after him and taking initiative the same way women do for men to ask them out?
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>>42005773
because they don't feel that it's real and assume that it is and will always be a fantasy. Pornography also conditions men into viewing their fantasies in third person. I guarantee you if any guy here uses sats to find a women to have sex with and they truly feel it is real it will manifest itself in the physical.
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>>42005679
what this anon said
>>42005670
is exactly correct. You cannot manifest that which you believe to be impossible. If you imagine and feel that something is impossible, it will be. Breaking the conditioning is the most crucial part of all of this and it is typically what holds people back. I personally subscribe to the idea that it's not that complicated and to get what you want you just assume you have it. A quote from one of Neville's lectures I hear in my head often times when I feel myself falling off or doubting is "dare to believe that which reason denies and that which your senes deny." remember, your reality is your imagination and your inner talking pushed out.
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>>42005773
>manifestation communities outside of 4Chan are 90% female
>women care more about love/romance than men
>women have an easier time with love/romance in general
>men have lots of complexes around sex/women and are worse at dealing with emotional blocks
>the men who have healthy views of sex DO manifest it, hence the other 10% of posts
take your pick
also what the other guy said
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>>42005212
how do you guys not chalk this up to survivorship bias or just world fallacy? I have had some minor successes in the past but i'm starting to think it was just chance. More recent attempts haven't been very consistent even for stuff as basic as a paperclip on the floor. A lot of success stories i've seen are stuff like "i got a job" and "my ex came back" which I feel like happens pretty commonly regardless. Not trying to troll but genuinely asking as this has kind of destroyed my faith recently, especially after an incident where i was really upset and this gameshow playing in a restaurant kept having captions saying shit like "if you believe it you achieve it" as if it was mocking me.
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>>42006723
it has happened too much, unironically every time it hasn't worked there was a limiting belief or misunderstanding. There's patterns in reality, they are subjective, and some of them appear to reproducibly affect causality. Surviorship is definitionally worked into LoA, if it didn't work change your beliefs until it does, if the right beliefs really did change, and it still didn't happen then fine the principle can be dismissed. Just world is a bias not a fallacy, if somebody had reasons for believing in karma of course it'd make sense to apply that to events, it's like calling appeal to nature a fallacy when really it only CAN be a fallacy. Also, in the end manifesting is just the idea that synchronicities can be controlled, so if you don't believe in those go read jung.
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>>42006575
So to manifest sex you need to have "healthy views" ? Can't you manifest a Asian girl because you have a thing for asians? Can't you manifest fetishes? I didn't know there is a moral problem for manifestations. Also what kind of emotional blocks men have women don't?
>>42005962
Why are there so little good stories from men tho? It's weird.
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>>42005773
I look at it like you have intelligences beyond the seen, mostly inhabiting the unseen and unless your in your I am presence (God mode) they can basically fuck you over.
I've had it happen a few times, and I hate it
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>>42009677
Manifest means to disclose.
You have perturbations in higher dimensions which you can influence through the longitudinal wave conjured by intention.
You basically either send a request to the unseen and hope it shows up, or you go God mode and make it happen.
Either way it can be thwarted, and for whatever reason, as a man, I haven't been able to procure a mate.
That's what I meant, maybe the materialist explanation will work for you.
Cheers.
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Finally after almost 2 years i got a bj from a woman and one more
Fuck this really works you just need to assume and feel it don't think about possibilities or probabilities.
Even if you get second thoughts just keep assuming doesn't matter if it seems impossible.
This is real because i have no job un m fat and ugly and got a bj without paying from a married woman. And a single woman after that one.
Assume persist etc. Don't listen to your inner voice
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>>42007825
>So to manifest sex you need to have "healthy views" ?
Yeah pretty much like >>42008092 said, it's how you relate the idea of sex to your image of yourself
Examples:
>you believe all women are whores who only want Millionaire Chad + you believe you're a sub-8 loser = no sex
>you believe all women are whores who only want Millionaire Chad + you believe you're Chad = you get pussy
>you believe women want genuine connection and looks don't matter + you are comfortable with yourself and women = you get pussy
>you believe women want genuine connection and looks don't matter + you get neurotic/thirsty around women = probably no pussy
by no means an ironclad example but I think it illustrates the point.
> Also what kind of emotional blocks men have women don't?
look at the prominence of male incel communities and the discourse men have regarding women online in general. Lots of men see women as a reward only reserved for the most "deserving" (even if "deserving" just means knowing how to manipulate them).
Contrast that with how many women see as men: a product that's in such abundance that male attention becomes a nuisance. All you have to do is sit back and pick your favorite.
Again not ironclad but it illustrates the point.
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>>42010049
What do you mean assume in this case? Did you do SATs scenes every night or affirmations or something else? Teach us how anon? What was the bridge that led these women to you and how did you end up in that situation ?
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>>42008092
Interesting. Do you guys have any material or tips on how to change self concept or even stories of success on the pursuit of sex for a man? I would really like to know more.
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>>42010194
>Do you guys have any material or tips on how to change self concept or even stories of success on the pursuit of sex for a man?
"Power of Now" helped me stay in the present and observe any kind of negative thought patterns that come up regarding women, and "Letting Go" is another good one. You can also look up videos regarding these. I found this pretty small channel "Carter Weber" on YouTube who talks exactly about that. He kinda repeats the same point in most videos but I guess there's only so much you can talk about.
As somebody who's identity was very firmly rooted in being a "loser" and negative/self loathing, I gotta say, working on self concept is the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm not living my full sexual or romantic dream life yet, but I did notice a consistent trail of breadcrumbs when I am able to embody the light, positive mental state, stay in the moment, etc. I'm getting more positive interactions with women, I even had sex with two recently after years of nothing (they were so-so, but still). Also oddly enough on days where I am able to persist, more beautiful women just happen to appear around me (cashiers, coworkers, dating apps, etc).
I guess my biggest tip I can give, if you're like me and used to self loathing and rejection, is don't try to go straight for believing that you are God's gift to women, you have too much resistance and you'll create too much tension. Instead focus on letting go of the ideas that women hate you, and try to cultivate positive feelings inside regardless of circumstances.
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>>42010194
i tried to find another screencap specifically about manifesting sex, but i couldn't, so i'll paraphrase the gist to you:
manifesting sex is about feeling sexy. find the beliefs you hold that stop you from feeling sexy and change them until you can feel like a sexy person at will.
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>>42005670
>said it's meant for very unlikely things still within the realm of probability, not time-alteration
>Realistically
>subconscious
[Know nothing about anything award] goes to this guy.
Besides what does it matter what anyone says? If you knew who you are you would just go for it. Time it's not linear, it's a matter of changing states, and George do talk about this to a greater extent. OmegaAces also reported changing his body using the glasses because it's not the method, it's the intent plus your non attachment to the current state. You're cucking yourself, all limits are self imposed.
>>42005773
Lack of intention.
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>>42011663
haven’t done it for that purpose but supposedly yes, i believe theres a few success stories about that on a google drive link that i think was in the library or an op of a past thread.
While not strictly LOA if you look up “self hypnosis breast growth paper” you will find a paper about women being hypnotized and getting larger breasts from it so im sure you could apply the same to your dick.
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Ok people I need some help. I don't think I need to go into much detail unless any of you wants to ask for more, but I am in a weird no-contact situation with a girl that I still don't know how to make progress in. I understand, at least theoretically, that you simply have to live in the end, and I have successfully manifested other occurrences before, but for some reason this one still eludes me.
How would you go about manifesting talking with a specific person? I know it sounds so simple but I haven't been able to and I guess I am asking to be spoonfed because I'm at a loss here. I recognize I still have strong limiting beliefs surrounding the topic of intimacy, so maybe I should be focusing on that first before attempting contact with any specific person...
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Is there any way to shift into a reality where something was already done, like paying off a debt or finding a lost item? Doesn’t seem to need any time manipulation. Just perceiving a reality where I made a different decision at some point that would change the present
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How to manifest friends and money
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>>42012262
stop focusing on this girl and focus on the feeling of being happy in a relationship. Neville of course talked more about marriage, imagining the ring, etc. The SP discourse often reeks of desperation and I've found the best results come when you give it some emotional distance. Just focus on being in a happy relationship.
>>42013606
figure out an amount you want to make per year or have in your bank account down to the dollar and imagine that you are already making it/have it. It's really that simple.
I feel the need to point out here that when it comes to The Law there is no such thing as "failure" in the strictest sense. You are constantly bringing things forth from your imagination since you are the operant power. What you assume regardless of your intention or desire becomes manifest. You need to understand your emotional state and often times wrestle with how you feel before this will work. You cannot suppress your way to success, it needs to be a genuine feeling.
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>>42010194
The truth is that the Buddhists are right. To truly get something, you have to not care about it anymore. Women get sex easily because they don't want or care about sex.
Desire is an end in itself and is a self-defeating loop. Law of attraction isn't about "desire." It's about finding clarity and mental peace. Sex and risky stuff usually run opposite to that.
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>>42011663
This is why you'll never manifest anything. You are coming from a place of low self-esteem and lack. You will remain in place forever. In order to move forward, you not only have to be okay with your current life, you have to embrace it. Or you could spend your entire life in futile resentment, chasing desires, wondering why nothing you tried ever worked.
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>>42013993
>The SP discourse often reeks of desperation
Yes it does. But that's because all desires reek of desperation. The other LOA "influencers" are right. You can't manifest a specific person in good conscience, and if you do, it's a mistake that will end badly. That's because the universe knows that wanting an individual - not a spirit - is materialism/fetishism. You should be seeking souls similar to your own, not caring about exactly who or what that might be.
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>>42014008
The burden of proof is on the crazier claim.
No one can ever prove a ridiculous negative. For example I can claim that all male posters are actually female or I could claim fat people are like that because they eat skinny people. Both of these claims are trash. But you can’t prove my claims wrong.
No one has ever offered anything even vaguely convincing about reality shifting. It’s bad fiction. There is nothing to it.
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>>42013436
This isn’t a reality shifting general anymore, it’s gone from the OP.
OFF TOPIC.
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>>42014074
Out-of-body experiences, meditation, lucid dreaming, astral projection. Near-death experiences also count but are way less commonly reported. Non-local consciousness is a given, and all of the above are forms of “reality-shifting” in one way or another.
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>>42014037
buddhists are right in that attachment to something or being obsessed with the lack of something brings suffering. Mental peace means that you are not emotionally affected by the outcome or at least the effect is minimal. Neville said that everything has its own appointed time and that you don't know it and so you really shouldn't concern yourself with it, similar to how you shouldn't concern yourself with the how or the why.
>>42014055
That in and of itself is a limiting belief. I do think however the issue with "manifesting an SP" or someone your emotionally intimate with to do something is that it caries emotional weight and baggage. The best thing you can do is thinking lovingly about a person as opposed to desperately seeking them.
>>42014203
because you're making that assumption as you're typing it. Dare to assume that the opposite is true and that you can easily remove your anxieties and that The Law works perfectly how you want it to work and it will.
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>>42005773
What i come to realize as a former coomer and now a LoA follower.
When i used to fantasize after i came i forgot about the scene did not stay there or live in the feel it was just means to an end and i did not use my imagination very much i used fap material videos, hentai, etc etc.
Once you employ imagination it becomes easier everytime and you can stay in the scene and feel it as real
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>>42014331
I assume im the same as before but i just xan't tap into it for some reason i justcan't feel it but before i did the ritual i said to myself that if it were to go wrong i would still focus on that good feeling of being in the end
Even though i can tap into it now but it feels kinda muted
Before when i read loa stuff i understood it it gave me hope now i don't feel good reading it
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>>42014366
what>>42014417 said, but actually feel the emotions and then feel them slip away into peace.
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>>42014256
I am in the loa general. I know where I am.
Out of body experiences are out of body experiences. Not manifestation or loa.
I could go through all the others and say the same thing. No need though, they are obviously not the same thing.
Stay lurking and don’t make up shit.
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>>42010049
Thank you anon, I'm looking for a lifelong partner and not just looking to get my dick wet but the way you phrased your thoughts really resonated with me and uplifted me and I needed that today. Good luck on your future endeavors.
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>>42014055
>That's because the universe knows that wanting an individual - not a spirit - is materialism/fetishism.
The idea that the material/physical world is somehow crude or impure or even evil is one of the most misleading beliefs that have plagued esoteric thinking since forever. You will realize your true power once you are aware that EVERYTHING is perfect as is. Your body is not a lesser vessel that you're stuck in, preventing you from accessing purer spiritual realms. Your body is your spirit manifest into physical form, and it is no less perfect than your spirit is, for it is an extension of spirit.
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>started using loa on us vs iran thingy
>Today my toilete overflows and i have to unclog it(dont ask)
>Happens to us navy
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>>42014702
Ok i will do it some guys in the succubus forum is saying i summoned some other entity thats why im feeling this way
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Three years ago, I manifested my dream job. Great pay, great staff, great schedule, and with certain very peculiar details that seemed far-fetched, yet there they were in my office every day.
I was laid off, and managed to find a role essentially the same, doing essentially the same thing, but leagues worse. I want to manifest my dream job, but I don't want to lose it again. How can I manifest stability once I've manifested what I want?
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>>42016406
Neither of you manifested anything.
>>42016045
Lmao. The worst general told you something.
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>>42016406
you just have to imagine yourself in the position until it happens, just fall asleep imagining it in first person or tell yourself "it is done" and really feel that you have it.
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>>42014074
I don't get this. Lurk the archives, search on Tumblr and Reddit as well, there's "proof" for everything if accounts and explanations it's what you're looking for. There's this place called Wizard Forums with a section of success stories. It's real, everything is, but not in the way you think it is. It's real in the way that every experience you can imagine is already available to be "manifested" (make it happen, to live it), but it's something only (You) will live. Your understanding of what we call "Magic" fall flat on it's face if you're trying to understand this from a dualistic, materialist perspective. You're not really a "person", anyway.
>>42016155
I'm more of a John Paolucci and Triumphant George kind of guy myself: https://mega.nz/folder/yghDjQgb#NCcxzcYa1Ojf976bAOXA9Q
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>>42020390
I have tried mentally repeating certain affirmations and had success with that. A while back I had a bad taste in my mouth that I couldn't get rid of so I started affirming that I have a good tasting mouth and some says later I noticed that the bad taste was gone.
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>>42018189
Hey anon, have you done anything from TG aside from the 2 glasses, particularly "Just Decide" or " Overwriting yourself?"
https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/2r39nc/overwriting_yours elf/
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>>42014063
>For example I can claim that all male posters are actually female or I could claim fat people are like that because they eat skinny people. Both of these claims are trash. But you can’t prove my claims wrong.
Those can be easily proven wrong so that was retarded
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>>42022437
the confusion is only a symptom of imprecise language.
"attachment to outcome" conventionally means emotional investment in whether or not you succeed- obviously, this is not the same thing as living in the wish fulfilled. one is a state of uncertainty, the other, certainty.
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>>42022437
I see detachment as referring to the same state like when you want something mundane. For example, you want a cup of coffee, or something from an online store. You got and make the coffee, or order the thing, but you don't sit there lusting about it, fantasizing and full of desire. You probably don't think much of it at all, you know it's pretty much yours with a small time delay. I think you should treat all your desires that way.
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>>42019527
You two are mentally ill.
You can always prove me wrong by a powerful quote from Wizard Forums (anecdotal stories are amazing bro). I guess the days of Neville are over and this is the level we are at now.
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>>42011663
I've manifested growing my dick from 5.2 inches to 6.2 inches length and ~5 inches in girth.
I kept reaffirming to myself whenever i thought about my former sex life: "my penis is becoming bigger and bigger" "i have the biggest penis in the universe" "my penis is only a reflection of my inner reality and it can be big".
I also used a bit of visualization as best as I could. I just kept doing it without thinking much of the outcome or even how etc. I just trusted the process, knowing that it is already done and my penis is indeed growing.
Proof: https://litter.catbox.moe/aazl6pjuhb6dty1p.png
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>>42023647
I included the OG pastebin links to Neville and the simple method. If people choose not to read it that's their prerogative but I have and will continue to advocate for Neville's methods and teachings as they've worked for me.
>>42023651
it seems so, it seems so.
>>42022437
if you already had what you wanted you wouldn't be seeking it or have an attachment to the outcome. That's what this means.
Also If people want to talk about wizards they can make their own thread or find a similar thread in the catalogue, I'm sure there's one already up. The negative Nancys can also fuck off this isn't the place for it.
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>>42024664
So am I able to retroactively change my universal line? Not time travel but retcon past events. Sort of like a dimensional jump, like going from a universe where my car is broken to where my car is working.
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>>42024691
While I have not made a change of such proportion yet, in theory I understand that yes that is possible. That is what Neville's revision technique is about too.
Basically, and this is a fundamental concept that you will come across in every material that deals with creating your reality, everything is now. There is no past and there is no future, there is only an everlasting and evershifting present moment. We merely perceive time as linear, but this is only a perceptual quirk of this particular physical dimension. What we understand as being past and future ripple out from the present moment. The past is as open-ended as the future. You can quite literally rewrite your life's history, believe in this new version, and it will be so. Of course, for most people (and I include myself here) this is easier said than done because our understanding of the past as being "set in stone" is one of mankind's strongest and most often reinforced habits. But truthfully, your past is completely malleable.
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>>42005212
I dont know if this stuff works. I mean, I will neither deny nor confirm it. I have tried to avoid it, and any other "religion"
but even when i try to come to my own conclusions they come back to this
they are not exactly aligned but its the same idea.
i understand however why one would think this is nonsense and utter rubbish.
you guys have great ideas. i like them a lot. but the representation of these ideas needs some work. and also, where is your ethics. you cant get everyone to follow this if you dont tell them about the consequences, good and bad, of apply this "law"
then again, i guess you dont have to. i will be doing more lurking here instead of the usual "hide post" button
someone should just sit down, write a proper book about all this. it feels like the idea and how its been applied can be said in less than 200 pages. much less.
then again, someone probably already has done all this work but we are just monkeys. except you of course, dear reader
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>>42024900
>"religion"
>you cant get everyone to follow this
This isn't a religion and nobody is trying to convert anyone or amass followers
>someone should just sit down, write a proper book about all this.
There are countless books on this subject...
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>>42024857
So if I keep affirming it, my past will be changed, and those changes will be reflected in the present?
>>42024909
Does it work if I affirm that my present is the way it is because the past was changed?
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>>42024930
i hear you mate, i know this is not a religion. if it was, it would be a really bad one, everyone being able to do anything and all
> nobody is trying to convert anyone
ehh, if its posted its because of some agenda
forgive my esl brain, semantics are not my forte
feel free to correct me again though, i appreciate it. lol.
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>>42024986
> Does it work if I affirm that my present is the way it is because the past was changed?
to answer your question, i dont know.
what is the thing that would be the case for this thing which you want to be true?
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>>42024986
Are you aware of Jane Roberts and the Seth Material? If not then I highly recommend you become acquainted with it, because it touches on all of these subjects. Here is a passage from one of her books that talks about changing past events, very similarly to how Neville describes his process of revision:
>The past existed in multitudinous ways. You only experienced one probable past. By changing this past in your mind, now, in your present, you can change not only its nature but its effect, and not only upon yourself but upon others.
>Pretend a particular event happened that greatly disturbed you. In your mind imagine it not simply wiped out, but replaced by another event of more beneficial nature. Now this must be done with great vividness and emotional validity, and many times. It is not a self-deception. The event that you choose will automatically be a probable event, which did in fact happen, though it is not the event you chose to perceive in your given probable past.
>Telepathically, if the process is done correctly, your idea will also affect any people who were connected with the original event, though they can choose to reject as well as accept your version.
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>>42025130
I sold a few things that I regret parting with. The situation itself wouldn’t drastically change my life; I don’t wanna manipulate time or do anything crazy. Just switch to a place where it didn’t happen, and my items are still here. Revision has worked for me before btw.
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>>42014037
Ok, and how do i genuinly stop caring then, and not just telling myself i dont care while secretly i still do
And no, finding something else to do doesnt prevent the desire to still exist at the back of my mind
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>>42025201
> Just switch to a place where it didn’t happen, and my items are still here.
This is why this doesn't work for, I wish I was this delusional.
Did you actually change the past or did you experienced reality which made it seem like it changed?
I'm always over-analyzing and I heard that can slow you down, sorry if I slowed you down anon
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I'm still reading the resources, and I just started doing scripting. I do it just before sleeping and after waking up but I'm unsure how to approach my mindset during the day when I see that the situation I'm manifesting for hasn't made any progress yet.
So my question for the more experienced people is:
after doing the manifestation technique for long enough, do you eventually stop having any kind of doubts? or you just trust that your subconscious eventually will assume what you want is true, without worrying any doubts you may have?
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>>42028855
Anon, you just have to keep doing it.
I use SATS before bed and right after waking up. After a while of spamming my scene daily I just feel like its enough and I don't need to do it anymore because I already have whatever I want and the 3D just needs to catch up.
Neville calls this the sabbath, basically just feeling satisfied/confident because you already have it.
> I'm unsure how to approach my mindset during the day when I see that the situation I'm manifesting for hasn't made any progress yet.
It doesn't matter because your wish is already fulfilled. This is Neville's most famous story - https://youtu.be/3L6B1eGrFvw?si=65v1EV8XHFxumoHx
Whenever I had doubts I would call it out immediatly - "Nope I don't give a fuck because I am with my SP, make $30k/mo, have a house, etc."
Just keep doing it and the 3D will catch up, you run this shit.
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>>42029444
Yea, I run a marketing agency. Went from sporadic one-off projects to monthly retainer clients. I also now only work with clients doing >$500k in monthly revenue so it's baby shit getting them results and they stay with us for longer because of that.
I broke up with my SP, we were in no contact for about a year. I still loved her very much so I just started visualizing us being in a happy relationship and then she reached out and basically the reason why we split wasn't an issue anymore.
I bought my own place as well as achieved less material things like being a frontman of a band, winning kickboxing championships, having a close friend group, etc.
Really just try it for yourself, there are no big or small desires, you can have everything you want all at once.
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>>42029845
I’ve had small successes but I cant figure it out. I try one thing or the other but it, “doesnt work”, I understand it as already being done but dont feel like it, I get sloppy or miss visualising it and worry that forcing isnt the way.
I also don’t understand how I can assume relocating places, shifting from countries and being rich enough to travel (which is what I want).
I barely ever ask questions on this thread but I guess im back to square one. Please, I think I need to talk to someone about this, share your thoughts and help me understand.
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>>42029444
NTA, btw
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>>42028855
>how to approach my mindset during the day when I see that the situation I'm manifesting for hasn't made any progress yet.
That is probably the most common mistake of all that disrupts people's manifestations. When you make a decision to will something into your experience, in that moment you have set it into motion and now you merely need to be patient and trust that everything is lining up. When you vacilate your trust and start getting impatient and worrying about it, you are sending out new orders, so to speak, and fidgeting with your original command. When doubt starts cropping up, instead of allowing yourself to be swayed by its panicked cries and feeding attention to it, take that as an opportunity to stop and evaluate which version of you do you prefer to reinforce in that moment. The old you, the fearful, doubtful, anxious, self-loathing you? Or the new you, the confident, abundant, self-loving, trusting you?
One thing that Bashar (and Elan, another Essassani. I recommend his book Your Power On A Plate) teaches that is very useful to remember is that what we call doubt is actually trust in an outcome we don't prefer. We are never actually in doubt, we are always trusting something. Being aware of that, we can choose where we want to place our trust in.
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Yeah that one is a very insightful quote.
Elan boils down reality creation into a simple 3 step process
>You make a decision
>You trust that decision
>You act as if you trust that decision
Again I reiterate my suggestion of his book Your Power On A Plate, it's very straightforward and easy to digest (pun intended)
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>>42030188
I agree with this anon >>42030390
There is no difference between manifesting climbing a ladder or a house. It's not like you need to "earn it" or build up to it or whatever, you are the pilot of your life and you have the power available to you at all times.
> I also don’t understand how I can assume relocating places, shifting from countries and being rich enough to travel (which is what I want).
I would just visualise myself in the place where I want to travel to in as much detail as possible. Like if I wanted to go to the maldives I would go there in my mind and feel the sun and the sea and the sand and hear the waves etc. Basically fill out all of the details of your scene until you truly feel as though you are in your destination. You should check out the Neville lectue I linked in my first reply he literally talks about this exact thing.
Also you don't need to understand how to shift countries or how you're going to travel. You just live in the end and things will shift in your favour to see the vision through, it's called the bridge of incidents.
> I get sloppy or miss visualising it and worry that forcing isnt the way
You need to stop thrashing about and just have faith in yourself anon. You don't need to look at the 3D world for results to believe it, you believe it and the results come.
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>>42030932
Do you truly want a job or arr you a depressed faggot that hates his life
>>42027017
It is possible but not for you
>>42014055
LoA says eypo not an un individual exists but imagination
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>>42028855
>I'm unsure how to approach my mindset during the day when I see that the situation I'm manifesting for hasn't made any progress yet
it's a feeling of "nothing has changed, this is how it's always been." you literally stop caring about anything because your entire experience is that that's how things have been all along
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>>42030183
this shit is so fucked, the word games you can play on yourself are limitless.
usually for me, what i holds me back most is that i need to manifest that thing, when in fact i already have it.
i think our understanding of time fucks us "beginners" as well
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>>42015404
>Your body is your spirit manifest into physical form, and it is no less perfect than your spirit is, for it is an extension of spirit.
Underrated post. This has been giving me a lot to think about in terms of how I view myself and things around me.
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>>42014037
This is complete horseshit. When you hear about famous athletes, whether knowinglg or unknowingly, utilizing the law via visualization and living in the end etc to become a champion they always have a burning desire for it and they usually only fall off once that hunger is gone. Desire is not an enemy.
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>>42024272
UL is too personal to talk about results with imo and there is absolutely zero point in reading about them either. trust me I went out of my way to track down advanced UL users and tried finding out as much as possible what others have done with it but everything in perception is just relative wave, which means you can't hang on it to command reality. but I suppose I can still tell you, personally I was into Neville's work for a good one or two years, until things in my life got so bad that it caused me to find UL, and then I applied it to change everything and it worked perfectly.
according to john our lives are lines of expansion where adversity happens just enough that it all doesn't fall apart while we still reach more and more self knowledge, what happened to me was exactly that
it's absolute schizo shit to an outsider, but it all makes WAY too much sense once you actually experience it yourself, which applies to loa in general
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>>42035466
NTA, but we are similar, I also spent years w neville with no results, then I found UL and studied a lot + did many command sessions for months but nothing changed for me. I even went over older PDFs like financial gain, same thing, not even getting partial returns.
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>>42035487
Cont. plus the fact that I got this wierd chronic issues after getting covid years ago, that if I do 10 minute session it's gonna give me worse insomnia for that day, so I can't even do 10 min ones, have to settle with 5 and even then I sometimes get problems. So adversity is preventing me from studying and applying UL properly due to insomnia.
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>>42005212
>https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms
>"you have to maintain as much detail and vividity as possible, bro!"
>somehow wants me to also fall asleep
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>>42035496
You will never get results with whatever variation of loa you try. You have become so wrapped around the axle over this medical issue that your fundamental assumption/command/intention - indeed THE FUNDAMENTAL WAY YOU DEFINE YOURSELF - is "I have this illness and nothing I do fixes it." You are in every fucking thread complaining that nothing works while also asking endless questions about the minutia of various techniques. This is the definition of missing the forest for the trees. The length of the command session doesn't matter, the clarity of SATS doesn't matter, the number of affirmations doesn't matter. You give the technique power. Your technique could be that taking a piss in the morning manifests a desire, and it'd work if you think it would work. You, however, would ask endless questions about whether the length and thickness of the piss stream was conducive to manifesting. Go to walmart and buy some meds. Moving around in the 3d is form of manifesting that even you shouldn't be able to fuck up.
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>>42035487
If you're simply method hopping, nothing will probably change because as decently informed people would told you, it was never about the method in the first place. Same with TG, same with Neville if you read it correctly. It's about WHO you are. Your current state is a "manifestation". Not an ideal analogy but: You can distro hop on Linux all you want prior to getting into it, and seeing the different approaches to the same thing, but you will never get to experience Linux until you actually use it and commit to it.
Understand that there's no "correct" approach, only the higher truth permeading the world: You as conciussnes experiencing his own world. If you realized this, you would acknowledge this, change perspective, and have different outcomes, but until you fully commit to something and stop being confused, you will still feeding that feedback loop, and being a lolcow in these threads. People have pointed the way, you refuse to walk over it.
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>>42035466
>it's absolute schizo shit to an outsider, but it all makes WAY too much sense
People on this place would be better off stop mystifying UL. Of course people with hardon matetialist beliefs that have never heard about Non duality would call it "schizo", they have never considered life in any other way. Everything seems "schizo" to you because you don't understand it, but really, what John illustrates is something that you have been doing all this time. Even if someone "proved" manifestation and these things worldwide, it won't change anything, because this comes before the experience of proving things. Everyone lives in their own reality bundle, and what George and John point at is that this world is truly our own mental structure, because we are that thing that comes before anything, even "the world". Is this what get you out of confusion: Once you understand this and the implications, you reconcilie imagination with life and change your mind to change your world. If any of this is alien to you, you really haven't acknowledged the facts all the way, you don't really know what you're actually capable of.
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>>42037745
I understand everything about UL, except "everyone lives in their own bubble". If everyone is all of it, and we all reside in same reality, why aren't we co-creators? I am the one line bending, and so are you, so how it can be a reality bubble for me and you seperately? That part I don't get no matter how much I contemplate it
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>>42037814
>If everyone is all of it, and we all reside in same reality, why aren't we co-creators?
The answer is in the question because whatever you come up with, and accept, the experiences behaves "as if" that was the case. Whatever you accept as the answer, it manifest accordingly to the notion of the idea you hold.
>If i accept and commit to there being "co-creators", then eventually i find out that is true.
>If i accept that it's all me and only i am in control, then eventually i find out that is true.
That's because you're not really a "person" but a perciever dreaming from the perspective of a character; all of it it's realized imagination. Just like in a dream; if youre dreaming and you ask a question to someone in the dream, and they all give you different answers, how that can happen if it's all inside your head? Same thing here: That's because you don't know you're dreaming right now. In that way, there are no others: Your body, other people, etc are just content of perception that doesn't exist outside of your awareness. Become "lucid", and you will be able to "see it". Truth cannot be "handed" to you, it can only be illustrated, but you have to sense it to understand: What this refers to is to the thing that comes before metaphors and explanations themselves.
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>You cannot manifest that which you believe to be impossible.
Is that why I havent manifested myself into a flying vampire yet?
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so how many times did you get your 10k?
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it feels as though theres a bridge between imagination (also, 4d, every reality?) and the physical form and monkey brain that needs to be linked?
i think theres a huge problem with /LoA/ that leads to a lot of shit flinging is that bridge is personalized based on earthly experience and trauma.
I'm working hard to try to find the silver bullet. some days are hard.
i practice regular fasting and SR, though some say it isn't possible i feel benefits. how can that be if creation is finished? shouldn't i just assume that i can fele those benefits regardless?
maybe that's apart of the personalized experience. am i truly God wearing a mask?
something will break soon though. there'll be a link and these problems will be a thing of the past.
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>>42038912
Mirror method that achieve a revised state of the past (broken bike turned into brand new bike)
2 cups method to achieve a revised state of the past (people dont remember arguments/disagreements)
Look on r/DimensionalJumping
TriumphantGeorge was a legit prophet
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I've made food I wanted randomly appear in my fridge after checking multiple times to be absolutely certain it wasn't there before, made people randomly offer to buy me food I was thinking about without ever saying it, I'm a master of conjuring ridiculous little trinkets.
I made my sister randomly give me a ridiculous 200lb pirate chest and a bizarre, ultra specific polychromatic silverware set I didn't know ever existed outside of my own head, weird little fidget toy I designed mentally and didn't know existed irl, without ever mentioning these things out loud.
These ridiculous things are completely unexplainable and have left me with zero doubt in the existence of this phenomenon. But I'm still not a billionaire, still not healthy, and I still haven't found the beautiful French wife I've seen in my recurring dreams despite being able to conjure up tons of free or nearly free trips all over the globe to search for her. There's nothing more crushing than fighting crippling pain, exhaustion, and nausea, following my intuition and spending 4 months searching 6 countries fully expecting life changing results, only to come home empty handed.
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>>42035323
The difference is between lustful desire (doesn't just refer to sex) vs passion.
I believe those are distinct states of being, even though they're separated by a fine line.
On that not, I'm not Christian (or religious at all) but the more I read about LoA and the things people say not to do, the more I draw parallels to the 7 cardinal sins.
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>>42038930
>Completely fucking ignored
At this point we should turn the uno reverse card and threat the James Randi tier schizos in denial as the true mental patients of the board. At this point, also, you need to have some brutal mental illness to deny manifestation and all psychic phenomena. Holy shit!
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>>42038987
as someone else who's spawned insane shit from nowhere and someone who also suffers from health stuff, I understand anon. You're not alone.
I wish I could offer more than cliches however. I see progress, but I haven't cracked it quite yet.
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>>42039214
I mean to be fair, people spend their entire lives having "there is no such thing as supernatural phenomenon" hammered into their minds 24/7. It's just that the current definition of supernatural, hell, the eternal definition of supernatural, is just things that current science cannot fully explain. Medicine was magic once, so was electricity, metalworking, radiation, predicting the weather, chemistry, tons of things.
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>>42039918
Science doesn't have to explain anything. Actually, science was never intended to explain nothing at all; it's just concerned with cataloguing frequent observations, no devising solutions (engineering) or dicerning "reality" (Metaphysics). Modern cuck science it's just a pseudo religion of many. This stuff is something before any science anyway. People asking for proof of this is like asking for proof of being aware, of being conciussnes: You only proof this to yourself because it literally only concerns you and your experience, because all experience it's subjective. Take non duality all the way, all is imagination, even you reading these words.
Besides, there was a world before this physicalistic conventions took over and people did fine. Why we would take for granted what materialist says when WHO you are is right there to see anytime you are willing to acknowledge it? Magic still going strong, but to be able to see it, you have to understand that the world is not a place, but something like an etheric metaphysical field that comes from you.
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>>42040043
NTA but thanks for that post anon. it's a real good post and I'm inclined to agree.
What do you think about medicinal or biological science? If I told you penicillin does in fact kill harmful bacteria, what would you say?
or if protein and fats do in fact help humans and animals build muscle, what would you say to that?
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>>42040308
Well, there was a post about imaginal metabolism somewhere in the original oneirosophy forum, i don't remember the details but, basically we can say everything we do, the body we have and all the biological details, are more like an accumulated pattern in itself. Say, if we command physical changes, and they happen either gradually or immediately; whatever background we have, either by doing this diet or this procedure, which causes this or that component to do this and such, we're just imagining that, some biological process, when change is simply... change, an experience of change, We actually never experience attoms, or bacteria, or chemical components inside our bodies, we just imagine them and then create resources that interact along these patterns. It still intent and mental image underlying things.
It's mindblowing but just think about it. Fitness it's a perfect example. Two persons can archive similar results, but their routine are completely and radically different, and the same goes with their circumstances around their training. We think we have to "do this and such for the other experience to arise" when that's never the case, we just simply change state. Have you heard about the man with no brain that lead a normal life? Really informative stuff, there are no "brains" as such, only consciousness:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1. 3679117/scientists-research-man-mis sing-90-of-his-brain-who-leads-a-no rmal-life-1.3679125
Of course, you can take this easy: A good advice i read somewhere is to command magical healing along with keep using ordinary means, striking a good balance of being responsible with your current state while keep moving towards expansion. You just simply imagine how things are to be done, and simple intend them to be, let it take care of itself for you.
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>>42010049
Those negative thoughts aren't even a hindrance, they're an opportunity. When you get a thought like "this won't work," that's when you've won, you can just crush it immediately for an easy victory over your doubts.
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>>42040396
I see. thanks anon.
>A good advice i read somewhere is to command magical healing along with keep using ordinary means
i feel like this is great advice a lot of us should take to heart. great post anon. if you have any resources or other thoughts please share.
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Hi guys, how are you? For months I’ve been following this thread, and I was wondering if, using the law of assumption or the law of attraction, I could bring about a change in my personality. I want to be more disciplined and mentally strong, not be impulsive, and be able to handle the constant harassment I receive both in public and at home.
Could you tell me what kind of protocol to follow or how you managed to achieve it if you’ve been in a similar situation? Thank you. I’ve been unemployed for two years due to an injury I suffered, and I’ve been feeling depressed. I only trust you guys to talk about this.
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I don't know if this counts as LOA or reality shifting, but I was planning to move to a specific country (I won't say the name), and I saw a lot of bad news about this country, so I decided every day to think only positively about this country, almost as if I was going to a reality where this country was perfect for me, and when I eventually moved, it was in fact a very good country and very close to what I idealized, and absolutely different from the news I read and the reputation I saw the country having.
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Why if I test the subconscious mind by saying something like "My back is becoming more and more relaxed every second", my back immediately relaxes
Or even doing something stupid like saying "my right thumb is sticking up" and I'm forced to stick my thumb up.
These are just tests nothing major. Maybe it could work on something bigger?
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Adding onto my previous post, I have an injured shoulder and I just tried "my shoulder is healing more and more every day" and I immediately felt that healing pain in my shoulder if you know what I mean. Like putting ice on a burn or something. It was really weird. Since my shoulder is injured I have a sort of test subject that I can try the power of the subconscious mind on. So I'm gonna keep doing the shoulder stuff. See if it works.
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>>42044774
You guys are just discovering buddhism. Look up tummo and rainbow body.
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>>42048449
You are like the trip mentioned here >>42047301
You will keep larping until one day you stop.
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UL anons, what about study tips? What if you don't understand a certain page of the text/analogy etc? What if the material is still not crystal clear, some parts make sense and some don't, and rereading doesn't really help?
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Back to Basics
I want a clean apartment and a nice meal for today. Just let me get some coffee and I'll show you! It's for me i want it nice. I'm very lucky and that's a promise.
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>>42052163
The thing UL is referring to it's something you have to "see" and "sense" for yourself, the most important part of it: One-Thing, Who You Are. When you realize it, you will also get that trying to giving it names and putting it into words it's useless because it's the thing that comes before words, explanation, and understanding, etc. That thing that you are is literally before anything in the world, every experience.
Do this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/2loaw1/outside_the_dream ing_game/ and you will get EVERYTHING John it's trying to illustrate afterwards, after you "see it". You're that everlasting perciever, the constant across all experience (after death and before "life"), and reality comes from you, because there's no such a thing as a world outside yourself.
DO TRY THE EXPERIMENT, like, ACTUALLY DO IT! Recycling thought it's useless, this is not something you can solve intellectually because what you're thinking, your current understanding of things, and the aspects of your experience right now are all part of your current state, your current perspective. You can't solve this in mind because this comes before the mind, any thought, everything. Realize this, choose your reality (commit to anything, staying there), and go ahead. The truth it's only one: Who you are, your true self. It's all choices from there.
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>>42052553
You can do whatever to change the past, be it revision, a ritual, or just deciding from "the end result" accepting it as a fact on the spot. It's also worth asking yourself "what is the past?" for instance. If everyone but you forgot the "mistakes" you made, did the past change? Or it just became inconsecuential and the actual change it's the people don't minding your actions and sticking with you no matter what? But then you realize that there may not be a "past" as such, but you traveling from one state to the next. If your intention were "i change this thing, so that other thing never mattered and will never affect my life whatsoever from now on", how it differs from "changing past events"?
>How do i do X?
However you do it, it just works, because you're imagining something first before it even happens, because however you imagine it works, it simply do, if you commit to it wholehearthly. It's who you are, your imagination and intentions the structure of manifestation. At the end of it, any anon could give you an answer, but it's what you accept and then DO that matters in the end, you have the final word to all those "Hows" questions.
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simply tell yourself you are who you want to be. Say "I am a disciplined, mentally strong person." Go to bed thinking about a scene where this is confirmed to be the case. It will become your reality as you believe it to be. Plant the seed and it will grow.
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Whenever you want to complain about the state of this general, just remind yourselves that lilanon and motheranon are gone now and no longer spreading their horrible misinformation. That alone is a massive step up
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>>42053317
You can’t
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That’s a lot of words to say nothing.
Just stop. You will never be a mighty sage like Lilanon was. His lies were funnier.
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>>42005212
Are you blinded by the light yet? Or should I keep applying pressure?
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I think like I've always kinda used LOA/Neville-esque techniques unknowingly. It's easy for me to manifest personal changes (with my body, mind, etc) but I feel like I've been arguably counterproductive when it comes to relationships. I tend to assume that friendships/relationships won't work out and lo and behold, they don't in the exact way I assumed they would even while consciously taking steps to prevent them.
For example this one girl and I have a cycle where we get close and have a great deal of emotional intimacy, I doubt things, and she pulls away. Right now we're the closest we've ever been and I'd like to manifest that continuing/progressing into an actual relationship. Any tips on this? It is hard to feel secure with her because like I said, there's been a lot of push and pull.
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>>42052381
I completed this task it was promised to me yesterday
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>>42057426
>It is hard to feel secure with her because like I said, there's been a lot of push and pull
Sounds like you know what you need to work on. LoA does take work sometimes.
I'm in a similar situation; lifetime of romantic failures making it hard to feel anything other than resentment and insecurity, but I've just decided to say fuck it and go all in, I imagine what it would be like to not only have a happy relationship, but to have had a lifetime of positive social and romantic experiences. Any time any insecurity or negativity comes up I breathe and relax, and remind myself of that feeling. No words, just feeling, I find if I use words like "you are loved and happy etc" the logical side of my brain pushes back against it, so I just focus on raw feeling.
The one thing that makes it easier for me is I don't focus on SP, I remind myself that no matter how much I like the girl I'm talking to now, I don't *need* it to work out, and if it falls apart I will surely find someone who fulfills me even better.
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>>42005773
Also "imagining" is very different from what Neville meant imo. Our common understanding of imagining is just that, thoughts, fantasies.
Neville (who had to teach to Americans in the 1950s!) used imagination for ease. A more correct term would be awareness.
Bringing something into awareness eventually makes it harden into fact, imagining x and thinking it's gonna manifest is a wrong way to think about it, if anything you'll just manifest more thoughts about x.
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>>42057734
>The one thing that makes it easier for me is I don't focus on SP, I remind myself that no matter how much I like the girl I'm talking to now, I don't *need* it to work out, and if it falls apart I will surely find someone who fulfills me even better.
That's what's hard for me, it is very rare that there's a girl I'm actually interested in. They have to be tweaked in a certain way or I'm just not attracted to them. So when there is a girl I'm interested in it's like I NEED this to happen and that is counterproductive as you've implied. I gotta get over it
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>>42047007
I would assume that in the future you discover something from the past that wouldnt have happened without manifestation. Like somebody passes away and 3 weeks later you do money manifestation. Some time later its discovered that the person who passed has left you money.
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