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I fail to see how spiritual experiences/sustenance can be gained from "gods" as psychological archetypes or natural forces.
Even Aristotle saw prayer and divine intervention as bullshit.
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>>42042631
The Pygmalion effect is a psychological phenomenon where higher expectations lead to an increase in performance. It operates as a self-fulfilling prophecy: when a leader (like a teacher or manager) believes an individual has high potential, they treat that person differently, which in turn causes the individual to internalize those expectations and perform better.
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>>42042631
>psychological archetypes
Most people who spout this shit are just jungian grifters.
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>>42043120
I am a Jungian, but I do it for free
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>>42042631
99%+ of them don't have human-like emotions but there are ways to commune with 100% of them, I think.
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>>42043274
A lot of probably do. They are projections of the human mind and thus share its qualities
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>>42043291
Okay, but even dogs and cats and birds and stuff don't experience reality like humans do. A lot of the gods that aren't basically all powerful aliens or that have avatars are bound within a realm in which they are the master. These realms can be their own gods as well.
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>>42043343
Dogs and cats and birds are just like really dumb people. Animals are basically non-verbal four-legged people with down syndrome. The gods are significantly more human than that
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>>42042631
I see you there, can relate some. There was a Jungian doc named Moore that unpacked his divinity like this:

>Look up at the crucifix
>See the great self up there
>Respecognize the archetypal potentials up there and within

Though he never called it a spirit, odd ontology, homie used the term 'Self' and the little-s 'self', careful to differentiate between the two.
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>>42043359
More human than humans
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>>42043291
>They are projections of the human mind
this isnt true. they are seperate from us. they are their own beings
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>>42043452
There are gods that are our interpretations of the gods too THO o algo
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Those gods live in the psychic-realm which always exists outside time as a potentiality-god, but the psychic-gods are made avatar into the material realm when the first lifeforms first imagined what true-reality must be and so made communion with them.
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>>42042637
Neat
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>>42042631
I recently had an epiphany that all the "gods" thing, the bad and the good, are only externalization of the psyche.
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>>42042631

>Aristotle

Picrel is where Aristotle came from not to long ago. Believe in higher intervention and be thankfull for it. They dont need you. You need them. Or Maybe You should go back to the jungle eating larvees and buggs again. Maybe that suits you better.
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>>42042631

This is Aristotles Great great grandmom
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You call her Lucy.
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>>42042631
>I fail
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ
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They’re not “like, just ideas in the cloud, maaaaan…”

They exist, in a very real way. In the way a man exists to a dog, a God exists to man.
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>>42042631
Yes, don't be stupid. If you wouldn't tolerate disrespect to your person, do you think the god's wouldn't either? As below, so above.
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>>42042631
Hot.

>>42042637
>they treat that person differently, which in turn causes the individual to internalize those expectations and perform better.
Linear causation materialist thinking. The effect is nonlocal and doesn't even require direct interaction. The cumulative small effects over time and self amplifying feedback loops model appears elegant and appeals to mechanistic thinking, but is ultimately just fantasy. Shit has nothing to do with anything. You can abuse the living fuck out of something and believe in it, and it'll fight hard to gain your approval and acceptance. However someone can do the exact same thing, same output, without believing in them at all, and the person will resent and give up.

Likewise the experiment can be blinded, You might think well, I can alter someone's fate simply by knowing they exist and scripting a certain outcome for them. Then the countercase because okay there's no direct connection between you, but perhaps others sees you and there is some invisible transfer and they quietly act to elevate this person to the fate imagined? It becomes untenable. It's basically magical thinkign pretending to be science. Just like literally curing disease with the placebo effect and then just classifying it as a confounder.

Glad I grew out of that. The mechanistic, linear, cause and effect mindset is quite beautiful though, I grant you this. It just isn't real. None of this shit is real. though many want it to be and believe hard, it still isn't. And can't be. though you can convince it to try and it'll fake it for you the best it can. but it just ain't. Happy-sad to say.
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>>42043274
If a God is an authority above us or created us even, would it not understand us in every way possible?
Sure, their perspective would be much more vast and complex than a human, but I don't see why it wouldn't understand human psychology if they created it.

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