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>decide to watch a deep video analysis about elite rituals and epstein lore
>expecting obscure sources, symbolism breakdowns, maybe references to esoteric traditions
>every single video is just an american christcuck frothing about satanism
>zero comparative occult framework, no anthropology, no history of mystery cults, nothing
>just pearl-clutching and bible quotes
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it's almost like much of it is gate kept because fags are either too scared or no one has ever took it seriously enough to do a deep dive study of it and laid it out in such a way that it could be studied as a historical or epistemological trend of human capacity
oh wait
that's literally the tike frame we are living in...
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>>42046734
It’s only gatekept if you expect someone to dump some sort of comprehensive summary on you. Based on what Epstein says in some of the documents his paradigm doesn’t seem to be specially “exotic”. But understanding his stance requires some digging into occultism and mysticism, there are more than enough resources available for everyone, not gatekept at all.
People think his paradigm is based on unknown sources because he was rich and powerful, it isn’t. Everyone drinks from the same well when it comes to this.
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>>42046875
Source of what exactly? If you’re talking about documents i’m referring to court documents, interviews and publicly available stuff. There’s no documented evidence he was into some sort of “exotic” or distinct occult system. If you have sources suggesting otherwise i’d be interested.
But when it comes to western esotericism there’s no hidden library for billionaires. Every major occult figure in the west published their systems, and besides, Epstein mostly talked about science/elite academia and brokering shit. But if you want to study what elites base their occult/esoteric paradigms on, then go for hermeticism, kabbalah, qabbalah, thelema, rosicrucianism, jungian esotericism, gnosticism, renaissance occultism..etc. Everyone has access to the well, but not everyone cares enough to study.
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>>42046957
Are you a woman? You keep dodging accountability for your sloppy posts.
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>>42046694
Today OP learned people in the occult are dullards with nothing interesting to say and aren't making youtube content. Then he found a way to seethe about Christians and blame them.
Why do you think Crowley was so influential? He actually had something to say. He could have examined and given a dissertation on all this stuff but he's been dead for ages. But more importantly, there's nothing to the Epstein files, it's a dog and pony show meant to occupy normies like you and the youtube Christians who you're seething about.
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>>42046714
If you want real information you will need to do a schizo dive on bitchute and listen to actual high IQ people with 40 subscribers. That's how this really works. And most of what you do find you will realize immediately is schizophrenic nonsense.
This doesn't apply to Jonathan Kleck though. He's based.
If you ever want to get into the occult and learn stuff on youtube you're going to realize something, there's literally nothing. People who are into the occult are boring af and have literally nothing to say.
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>>42046969
It was common in hellenistic periods to use the blood of children as a common substitute in goetic currents, it also happened within “official” religion in the polis. Children are one of the most common symbols of purity and innocence, making them a useful tool in many ceremonial works. Often the kid wasn’t killed and only blood was drawn for ceremonial purposes.
Kids being a common archetype for symbolic usage in occultism makes children sacrifice the opposite of exotic. For some reason you retarded bonobos interpret that something not being exotic is me supporting it kek.
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>>42046734
It's not gatekept the files are out. More interesting stuff was released during leaks in 2016
There's no reason for anyone to have written down literal details about occult rituals and stuff such that they would ever get leaked in these files.
>>42046942
>when it comes to western esotericism there’s no hidden library for billionaires. Every major occult figure in the west published their systems
This.
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>>42046995
You can read "ancient magic and ritual power" (Brill). But the hellenistic goetia was composed mostly of literal mountain hobos that were at odds with the polis, in a time where things often were resolved through magic or faith, kids were snatched as precious material. Just like TCM in rural and upper echelon China.
Kids represent something precious and pure, and that type of archetypal symbolism is something global, so it's happened all around the world.
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>>42046995
>I'm curious, give books
Xfiles tried to tell you a long time ago: "the truth IS out there". Like the other anon said, seek and ye shall find.
None of it is hidden ... very few bother to look.
Reminds me of a friend who said, "I have never found a four leaf clover in my entire life". I then asked, to the amazement of only one of us, "have you ever bothered to look for one?". I bet you can guess the answer.
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What do you guys all think about those "buy my book to discover the TRUTH" ads on Instagram?
Those books have to be written by AI, I can't believe there's so many "different" variations of the same revealed 'Truth" all at once. And they all show the same images of the Kundalini, the Kabbalah, different Chakras. It feels so weird
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>>42047158
No sorry, I stick to Jonathan Kleck these days. Bitchute is so schizophrenic and most of the ideas there I'm already familiar with but that's only because I already did my deep diving so long ago. I haven't bothered with any of it since covid. And when I did research the occult, I got most of the info I wanted from sacred-texts.com and stuff, then I would followup on interesting things on Bitchute. Bitchute is the real rabbit hole on the internet, it's not like youtube where people are "making content" for money.
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This kind of knowledge does nothing for most people. Literally nothing they do not care in the slightest. The only appeal for them is the cool imagery. The actual truths, red lines and logic within this knowledge is only interesting to a small portion of humans. You won’t find ‘YouTube’ videos of this. You’ll find one schizo who’s been aware most his life and the only people who want to listen to him is 40 subs on bitchute. The people who get firing neurons from this line of thinking are extremely niche. However if they’re great story tellers the whole world would be willing to listen. This is why religions are created because although boring this knowledge is important to human life.
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>>42046694
It's like watching first year students be the final year teachers.
They're interpreting the files from their own position and their own base of knowledge, but that's not a particularly educated position since the only book they've ever read is the Bible and a priest / reverend told them what to think of it.
No different from most of 4chan really, when you think about it.
There are very, very few people who've been initiated and educated by those who maintain the knowledge, and maybe a handful of them shitposts here.
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>>42046942
>But when it comes to western esotericism there’s no hidden library for billionaires.
LMAO! How can you make a retarded ass fucking claim like that in confidence? Are you fucking STUPID??? These people live in a completely different reality than the rest of us dude. When I was getting groomed to join a Freemasonic lodge by a kike faggot gangster in Chicago he told me flat out they have books in lodge libraries that do not exist in print in public. Do you think that's a joke? I swear to god you fucking people are D U M B as fuck. Kill yourself lmao
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>>42046694
you could draw parallels to sodom and gomorrha, ishtar cultists, akkadian and canaanite theology and worship and culture, transhumanism, tikkum olam, NWO, biblical prophecies of corrupt leaders and aims in the final days, jewish theology (mainly, with references to how they treat the populace and their aims of transhumanism and most tech ceos being jewish of some sort), why anime became popular, ayn rand, max stirner, friedrich nietzche, post-modernism
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>>42046694
I was going to effort post until I realized if OP is still in the level of awareness that he thinks youtube is a credible place to learn about anything this system of power doesn't want us to know, then he's not going to be able to accept what I have to say. The Bible is perfectly valid and continuously presses the importance of righteousness, love, peace, and disapproval of evil. So within this context, the video you watched is perfectly valid. But what this really looks like is just an excuse to insult Christianity.