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The predicament which modern man finds himself in is that of a self-conflict, a conflict which, for one, arises from foreign and alien circumstances but, on a more profound level, is that of an intrinsic, innate and incessant battle which each and every one of us faces. The goal of this conflict is that of a reconquest, a reconquest of one's self, a reconquest of one's being and a reconquest of one's essence.
As the Age of Vice begins, man is forced to look back, back to his past, back to his ancestors and back to himself for hope, as what lies before him is nothing but a decline and the rotting corpse of the collective, growing and expanding at every moment. This corpse is gross and material; every breath it takes oozes out a sense of despair and anxiety which consumes and traps the individual in a state of fragmentation and inner discord, resulting in the mundane common folk sinking deep into hedonism and degradation, to delude themselves in comfort and a false perception of peace.
You must find in yourself a will which is akin to a fire, a fire which burns brighter than the fire around you, a fire which refuses to be consumed and smothered by its surroundings. If you can do this, if you can find this fire nested deep inside you, then you will be able to conquer yourself and, consequently, conquer the world.
And the first step in this reconquest is semen retention.
Quite frankly, it's pretty obvious that porn of all types is being pushed upon the masses by a group of ill-willed 'people'.
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>>42179394
It's seen everywhere
Seen within social media, with girls degrading themselves every two scrolls; seen on YouTube with suggestive thumbnails and provocative clothing; and even within ads.
It's seen in your movies and shows, in your theatre and books, schools and policies. And most importantly it is free and accessible just a few clicks away; "if the product is free, you are the product."
It's seen everywhere.
Why?
Because it weakens the soul, it makes you complain, it makes you slow, it makes you dull, it makes you perverted, it makes you spiritually blind, it makes you addicted, and it relinquishes your time and resources in self-degradation.
Fight back; take what's yours.
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>>42179502
The rising of the kundalini (increased prana),
The filling of the lower dantian (increased qi),
The rising of the chakras
(I can go in more detail if you want but I might respond later as I’m walking
And I general most spiritual practices Require you to not be a commer)
Also “non spiritual” things are countless
Like improved hormones, energy, focus, etc
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>>42179394
Glad to see this thread. It’s even kind of funny that im seeing it at this exact moment (i was checking up tho).
For me, this problem arises from boredom and inactivity. Literally because of the external situation, let's just say, im stuck with this problem. But it’s all so stupid. The fact that my desire right now is caused by boredom. Generally, i haven’t had such issues with abstinence over the last week (which is about how long I’ve been at it), and the root cause is the same: im just bored. My mind is playing tricks on me, it seems. Anyway, keeping it going.
Thanks for the thread, anon.
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>>42179395
Why is semen retention always conflated with abstaining from pornography when they are totally different things, one does lend itself to the other obviously but still I think most critically thinking people can recognize that pornography and especially the excess of it in our current day is not good for anyone involved: the creators nor the consumers.
But really what are the benefits of semen retention? Why is it that when I search for info on this topic it’s always people saying they are experiencing ethereal, intangible things and when I retain my semen I simply don’t experience these things.
I feel like the benefits people are reaping are from abstaining from pornography instead of semen retention itself. Also semen retention seems to be a lot of men’s first foray into spirituality and meditation so it seems to me a lot of benefits from that can also be assumed to be from semen retention.
It seems to be a placebo more than anything. Just like a superstitious athlete would chalk up their victory to the fact that they’re wearing their lucky socks rather than their athleticism and practice. It seems like semen retention is getting accredited for more than realistically it is responsible for. Please give insight on anything I may be missing.
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>>42179394
I don't think kali-ma endorses semen retention
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
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>>42179756
SR got exposed hard recently. Even this general is dead with barely any posters nowadays, 1year max and its gone since no one will bother to bake anymore.
SR promised to give you health,magnetism,energy,luck etc. But it failed in all categories, in the first place if you become healthy you instantly get attractive as well since thats what attractiveness naturally was supposed to be( will come to this later ). Magnetism has been debunked even by people doing sr 1year+ they say it doesn't work, you see it constantly in these threads. Luck is always random. The only thing you could give it is energy, but that always comes cause they change multiple things in their lives when doing SR like going to the gym, eating healthy, quitting other addictions like smoking etc.
Clavicular was the final nail in the coffin, he's literally doing everything opposite of the SR lifestyle. He's a degen, claimed to jerk off a lot before getting girls, doing every drug he can to looksmax, eats junk food, isn't spiritual at all etc. He is the antithesis of SR and he gets all the benefits the supposed SR practitioner is supposed to get:magnetism,luck,energy by being surrounded and adored by all the people etc. Only problem is he's probably not healthy since as i talked before he's faking all of it with drugs/autistic techniques. But it still gave him what he wanted, which shows theres not some invisible semen aura, it's just health signals which you can fake.
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>>42179502
None. It's like asking what powers do you gain by not poisoning yourself. You just become healthy in a world full of sickness. Unless you're cattle like the poster above me who takes Peter Thiel's cum dumpster seriously that will be enough for you.
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>>42179528
Also
>previously unthinkable levels of bodily regeneration
>near superhuman ability
>the power of controlling the societal neural-endocrine hypermesh, also known as LoA and manifestation
>controlling other people's wills
>the ability to predict future events in the causal chain
>the ability to predict future events by pure unfiltered intuition
>less sleep
>less hunger
>more self control
>...
all these and more you will experience if you retain the right way.
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>>42179887
Hey dummy, in my post I said that abstaining from porn is likely more helpful than practicing semen retention and I also rejected the use of pornography stating its not good. Can you respond with something worthwhile about semen retention itself instead of just meandering about pornography? If you don't think porn is bad you're retarded, so let's move past that and stop harping on it as is in many semen retention discussions.
Semen retention is incompatible with pornography obviously, as semen retention is also incompatible with moderation. Even an alcoholic who drinks everyday and who's life suffers because of it can return to drinking and drink say once a day every two weeks and still maintain order in their life as long as they understand the concept of moderation.
But this concept of moderation does not exist with semen retention. You can't even "relapse" with your wife as then you've basically ruined months of progress. I believe most things in life work in most accordance with nature while in balance and moderation. Dehydration and overhydration are both undesirable, you must find a balance. But semen retention denies this natural truth, even ironically as by nature people will eventually have nocturnal emissions while practicing, but of course this is the practitioners fault and they weren't retaining hard enough.
This ideology has me thinking that this whole thought of semen retention is more of a cult than anything. Just people retaining their seed out of fear of what could happen if they didn't, instead of doing it for whatever benefits it may have. And those claiming or those who have retained for years just deluding themselves into believing it has some benefit as to not think they've aligned with a bullshit practice for so long. But of course I am out of my depth because I haven't retained my seed for X number of years.
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this sounds super pathetic but the biggest problem for me (next to porn addiction) is the god damn phone. I seem unable or just to unwilling to lay it down and since I watch porn on it at some point even during longer streaks, chaos is ensured
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you´re right, I will start doing this
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>>42179807
well yeah, retention alone isn’t gonna suddenly bless you with +8 luck
but it has to be part of a bigger, "life changing routine". the benefits come from the whole stack, not just holding it in
what you’re really doing is turning that fried, impulsive state into more restlessness (the good kinda restlessness), more drive, sharper focus on what you actually want
it’s learning how to take frustration, emptiness, that lowlevel anxiety, and redirect it into building, creating, achieving something
and yeah, maybe there’s something to the whole “energy” angle people talk about daoist stuff and all that. haven’t really dug into it yet
day 8 here too, still figuring it out
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kundalini a divine force and is a small gland at the base of the spinal cord. With the evolution of the natural forces in man, this gland has now come to a point where man can explode it. Those people who have awakened this supernatural force have been called rishis, prophets, yogis, siddhas and various other names according to the time, tradition and culture. In India the entire cultural set-up was once organized to facilitate this explosion, but today things are a little different because materialism is a very powerful force
Prana is a Sanskrit word literally meaning ‘life force’ the invisible bio-energy or vital energy that keeps the body alive and maintains a state of good health. Prana is similar if not identical to Wilhelm Reich’s orgone energy, which he believed to be in constant motion, nonentropic and responsible for the creation of matter, and serves as a medium for electromagnetic and gravitational phenomena. There are many terms for subtle energy, including Od, orgone, scalar waves and tachyon and etheric energy. In various places around the world the life force has been called: Japan Ki, China Qi or Chi, Greece Pneuma, Polynesian Mana, Hebrew Ruah, Egypt Ka, Hindus Prana, Druids Nwyvre, North African Baraka, Pueblo Indians Po-wa-ha, Iroquois Orenda, and to the Sioux Waken or Wakanda.
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>>42180905
Here is for more research:
https://dn721505.ca.archive.org/0/items/folder-20230407-20/Kundalini%2 0Tantra.pdf (sight to the point)
https://ia801508.us.archive.org/18/items/BiologyOfKundalini_201903/Bio logy-of-Kundalini.pdf (day in the life and for more knowledge)
https://dn710007.ca.archive.org/0/items/kundalini-path-to-higher-consc iousness-pandit-gopi-krishna/Kundal ini%20Path%20to%20Higher%20Consciou sness%20-%20Pandit%20Gopi%20Krishna .pdf (the consequences of it and just it in general)
https://www.scribd.com/document/848500622/Kundalini-Psychosis-or-Trans cendence-text (proof and consequences)
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pd f (also mentioned here
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>>42179785
Dantian is a Daoist term meaning “elixir field” and refers to subtle energy centers within the human body where life force is gathered, stored and transformed. Rather than being a physical organ, the dantian is experienced as a focal point of awareness and vitality, cultivated through breath, posture and intention. In traditional internal arts such as Qigong and Taiji, the dantian is regarded as the root of internal power and the foundation of health, balance and longevity. Those who have developed and refined awareness of these centers are often described in various traditions as adepts, cultivators or internal practitioners, depending on the culture and historical context.
There are three primary dantians recognized in Daoist practice. The lower dantian, located below the navel, is considered the main reservoir of vital energy and the center of physical vitality and grounding. The middle dantian, situated in the region of the heart, is associated with emotional energy and the transformation of feeling into refined awareness. The upper dantian, found in the head, relates to consciousness, perception and spiritual insight. Together these centers form an internal system through which energy is cultivated and elevated. In Chinese tradition this life force is called Qi, closely related to concepts such as Prana in India, Ki in Japan and Pneuma in ancient Greece, all pointing toward a universal idea of an animating energy that sustains life and consciousness.
Qi is a Chinese term meaning “bioelectricity” or vital energy, b the invisible current that flows through the body and sustains all physical, mental and spiritual activity. It is not a physical substance but a subtle force experienced through breath, movement and awareness, cultivated in practices such as Qigong and acupuncture. Qi is similar to>>42180905, all referring to the universal energy that animates life and maintains balance within the body and nature.
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Does anyone have any advice for getting over the feeling of demoralization and despair after wet dreams? I’ve been trying to escape the PMO trap for years. Some durations have been longer. But a recurring thing is wet dreams tend to really demoralize me.
I do what I can to avoid them - never sleeping on my stomach, nightly prayer, and avoiding drinking a lot of water or eating food before bed. But sometimes it still happens.
And the day after it happens, I can feel the despair creeping in and it sucks. I notice that things start going wrong in my life again after a wet dream - at least for a day or two. Everything feels wrong again and temptation feels stronger, even though I try to guard my thoughts. It absolutely feels like the devil is trying to get me to fall into despair and back into the cycle. One week I had five wet dreams, it was day after day and relentless. I had no idea that was even possible. Now it only happens once every three weeks or so, but still happens.
I know things will get better if I continue to retain, but any advice to quickly get back on my feet after wet dreams? Back into the right mindset? Please pray for me, I want to be free from this slavery of lust. It is ruining my life and life feels so much better when I’m not doing that stuff. But I keep getting sucked in.
Right now I’m going to do a CDF protocol to try to kill the fungus in my gut - I’ve noticed glutinous appetite and lust are definitely connected.
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>>42180936
Here is for more research:
https://dn721901.ca.archive.org/0/items/QigongMeditation.EmbryonicBrea thingByYangJwingMing/Qigong%20medit ation.%20Embryonic%20breathing%20by %20Yang%20Jwing-Ming.pdf (to get practical)
https://rexresearch1.com/AlchemyArchives/1TaoistAlchemy/DanaosMagusJav aTaoistImmortal.pdf (surface level stuff (the students had to keep it that way0)
https://www.scribd.com/document/539837106/Yongsheng-Bi-Chinese-Qigong- Outgoing-Qi-Therapy-r (to be a healer, but this is advanced)
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/download/Tantra/en/Lama%20Yeshe%20-%20The %20Bliss%20of%20Inner%20Fire%20-%20 The%20Heart%20Practice%20of%20the%2 0Six%20Vows%20of%20Naropa%20(Copy%2 01).pdf (to learn tummo or "Inner Fire" meditation)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000200270 001-6.pdf (proof)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000200240 001-9.pdf (proof)
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>>42179394
Masturbation is natural and the body naturally releases semen regularly in order to maximize fertility.
Semen Retention seems to be a ploy to create shame over a natural bodily process, and is likely not as beneficial to your health as routine (non-crhonic) masturbation
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>>42181509
What I do in the dark and what I do in public are two different things. Sure it is shameful, but it is also an emotional release for emotions I cannot otherwise express in the outside world, particularly in the hostile modern world which is so antagonistic to healthy expression.
For now, it provides a release.
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Nice digits, 1488.
>Procreation is bad actually
The health and fertility of the body was not designed for cumming not at all or maybe once a year, that's not how pregnancy works.
Maybe you guys are anti-natalists or some Gnostic tards, but the fact is, the body is at its healthiest when you are plapping loads into your wife on a regular basis. Masturbation is indeed a poor substitute, but if you don't have any other options it is healthy to get circulation to that part of your body, and also for regulating your hormonal health and not getting blue balls.
If you want to be impotent go be impotent, just don't act like you're some highly virtuous philosopher or super star jesus simply because you choose not to touch your penis whatsoever.
Do you guys sit down when you pee?
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>>42181714
Lack of regular circulation to your penis and failure to inflate will cause shrinkage in the short term, it is fixable by getting regular circulation back into your junk, but the longer you wait the more you risk long term degradation. Imagine you were not getting regular circulation to your leg, it's like that but to a lesser degree.
Also a somewhat regular ejaculation pattern is how you body removes excess fluids. If you notice that your semen is yellow after a period of abstinence, typically it becomes white again on the next pump.
The body naturally regulates this through horniness, so wet dreams serve this function sometimes.
Also night time erections are fundamental to fertility and health, if you're not getting erections at night while sleeping, that is not a good sign, you need to be waking up with wood, and if you're not, trying to improve your circulation is crucial.
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>>42181786
I just know how my body works, because I also tried the no-fap shit and it made things worse for me.
I wasn't getting good circulation, and after long periods of abstinence my semen quality was worse.
I think porn is bad but sexual release is not bad in of itself, you just need to regulate it properly, wear comfortable clothing, drink water, eat healthy.
I'm willing to bet most the people fretting over this pseudo spiritual stuff don't actually take good care of their bodies in many other ways, learn from this what you will.
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>>42179394
why is it so damn distracting
it's in the back of my mind everything I do
it's an itch which doesn't go away until scratch
ans then it's like athlete's foot where you have to go scorched earth until nothing is left to finally get relief
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>>42181820
Get out of here lust roastie, you will not divide us
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>>42181997
Because your body is biologically programmed to reproduce, and the modern world is really unhealthy so that this drive is not well developed or directed into healthy things.
>>42182199
Have sex and make babies.
Reproduce, especially if you're White.
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>>42179655
Nicotine itself have health benefits for the brain, but one should of course avoid becoming addicted.
>Nicotine acts as a potent cognitive enhancer by binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, boosting dopamine and acetylcholine, which can temporarily improve attention, working memory, and mental clarity.
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The shills who say you get super powers from SR are the same shills who say the Earth is flat whenever conspiracies are getting revealed. Pic related.
There are benefits and "powers" just not to the extent some of these retards impose. It's all to discredit you from doing it.
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>>42179807
SR is the start of the snowball effect, if you keep porn and fapping in your life, you will never make it because you are weak spiritually.
Clav went to catholic school and he had some spirituality in him and most of all he had the grindset/tools to be succesful. Also i'm 100% he hasn't fapped in months and he is also a drug addict right now so he doesn't need SR to productivitymaxx. SR is all about having a natural drive and not being a slave to your urges. For example im 2+ weeks without porn and 1 month without fapping and now i wake up indiferrent if i have a morning wood or not and every woman i interact with i'm natural with them and i'm not even thinking of them having sex with me. Free yourself
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This is my theory on wet dreams, it isn't a succubus/demon trying to extract your sexual energy while you sleep. It is most likely to do with your nervous system.
What happens is you've trained your body during your PMO days to ejaculate when you become super aroused/nervous system getting excited. Then when you practice SR you most likely try to block out any sexual thoughts or sexual imagery, this is good when you want to get rid of porn addiction, the problem is you are still very sensitive to being aroused and this follows into your sleep.
When you experience a very sexual dream your nervous system will become to excited and this will activate your pelvic muscles to spasm to cause an orgasm/ejaculate.
People probably won't like this but the best way to prevent wet dreams is to do slow gentle masturbation. Here's the rules:
1. NEVER EJACULATE! get this drilled into your head, there is no end goal
2. Don't use porn, this will distract you from your bodily sensations
3. Be as slow and gentle as you possibly can
4. Do slow deep diaphragm breathing
5. Keep your body as relaxed as possible including your pc muscles
6. Try to get yourself into an arousal level of 7 (9 being the point of no return and 10 being ejaculation)
7. Ride this gentle arousal level until you feel satisfied
Not only does this make you feel satisfied and still full of sexual energy but it also trains your nervous system to be calm while highly aroused even when sleeping, making it easier to prevent wet dreams.
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You can also use your imagination to help ignite the arousal, but you should keep it vanilla, focus on love rather then just visual lust like what porn is, have it in first person and focus on gentle touch/physical sensation with whoever it is you are thinking about, basically role play it out in your head, it's fun. The good thing is that you can do it for like 10-20 minutes and feel satisfied while still full of energy.
I think a lot of people who do SR go to the extreme by supressing their sexual urges and deluding themselves that exercising, doing work, cold showers etc transmute sexual energy when it doesn't, it just distracts you from being horny but that energy is still trapped down in your groin. I tried going monk mode and it didn't help preventing wet dreams (I'd have 3-4 a month) and there were 2 states I'd be in.
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1. I'd be like an animal in heat wanting to hump anything
2. libido plummets and feels like I'm asexual
We are sexual beings and we need to engage in our sexuality WHILE ALSO retaining our semen. I just think most guys who are against anything involving touching their wee wee or engaging in their sexual nature are weak because they'd easily relapse and scream at others "NOOO YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT!!! YOU WILL RELAPSE!!!". Speak for yourself XD
If you are only beginning SR then yes don't engage in anything sexual until your porn addiction is dealt with, could take months or years. But it isn't healthy to try and supress your sexual nature.
This has helped me greatly with wet dreams, I even had a horny dream today involving a hot wrestling chick on me, past me would have busted a load while sleeping, but instead I got to enjoy it play out without staining my pants.
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A weird thing I get sometimes is like a dull pain around my eye socket and I swear it happens more when I have a day of cooming a lot with my gf. But I also think it might be from gym as well as that (so just using up a lot of energy in general, eg. yesterday I coomed in gf during the day then went to gym later, have had this aching left eye socket since I woke up this morning). Has anyone experienced this or have any idea what is going on?
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>>42179394
The idea has always intrigued me. I understand the gist of it but im more curious on yours and everyones anecdotal experience with trying/living the discipline.
OP have you had any personal stories or experiences with Semen Retention that led you into creating more meaningful things in life? Or did you simply accumulate lots of testosterone and forcing down you sexual urges unhealthily?
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I've actually kinda cured my AGP from semen retention (been going since the beginning of the year, haven't relapsed once). I had this fetish for pretty much my whole life (idk how it started) and there were more than a few times I even thought I was a tranny since other trannies intentionally try to convince you that your erections are "gender euphoria" and etc. But once you stop jerking it the feeling really does go away entirely. Is the fetish still in my head? Yes, probably, so it's not exactly a "cure" in the way that I'm fixed forever. But if you just never coom then you might as well not have a fetish at all. It's like covering a gaping unhealing wound with a band-aid. Technically the wound is still there and it will never truly heal, but at least it's covered up and that's the most and best you'll be able to do. I recommend any other AGPs or "eggs" in this thread good luck and not to give up, the effort really pays off and you'll be a happier individual for it. I was in a dark space starting a few years ago when I fell down the AGP gooning rabbithole and only now have I started feeling the light once more.
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Took a break from it for 2 years and you have a point about the urges but at the end of the day it's all in your mind, right now im retaining and i drink 2 cups of coffee per day and it helped me productivitymaxxing and gymaxxing
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>>42181820
>after long periods of abstinence my semen quality was worse.
How long did you abstain for and how did you come to this conclusion?
>Lack of regular circulation to your penis and failure to inflate will cause shrinkage in the short term, it is fixable by getting regular circulation back into your junk, but the longer you wait the more you risk long term degradation. Imagine you were not getting regular circulation to your leg, it's like that but to a lesser degree.
Is this a problem if you're getting morning wood?
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>>42183924
If you're not getting morning wood its a sign of poor circulation. Your body natural has several night time erections, so waking up hard is a sign of health.
I did various periods of abstinence, some months, some weeks, some days, and just measured the outcomes.
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>>42179655
RHP, the way of "restraint." Yeah, if you're going that way, go all in.
In LHP, you do those things and offer the euphoria and joy to God (or one of its many faces) instead of hoarding the pleasure for yourself. It's sacrifice one way or the other.
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If semen retention is real then you should be able to increase the effect by sucking dick and swallowing as much cum as possible.
Everyone itt should hit up their local gay bar and get as many hookups as possible.
Call it incubusmaxxing.
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I think if anything changed so far because of retention is that my mind is much clearer and I no longer notice any brain fogs. Curious. Other than that its my taste in women. Deprived OF succubuses no longer excite me. On the other hand trad goodgirls tho
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As long as you're not some kind of disgusting hambeast right now, then yeah. If you're a guy who is like moderately attractive but still can't seem to get women interested, you're going to start catching women looking at you and then looking away and stuff like that. I've had this happen several times over the almost month that I've been retaining, and it's crazy to watch happen.
One thing that's been subtle for me, is I'll catch myself opening up more casual conversations in public, I'll tell an offhand funny joke, people in the vicinity will laugh, then all of a sudden some girl is 'mirin.
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>>42184827
>Ok but am I gonna attract girls
for sure. once you reached a mental state where you dont wanna attract girls, they'll just come to you but at that point you gonna be totally indifferent anyway. retention catch 22
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>>42179394
Semen retention is one of the most shilled against topics. If it is deemed profoundly important by Tesla, Nietzsche, and Ronnie Coleman, you should at least try it.
I feel profoundly better when I am not ejaculating, and every one of my friends who has tried it has felt the same. At the very least, it should be obvious to limit ejaculation frequency
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Day 137
I WANT PUSSY SO BAD. I'm sorry but I do. Well, really, I want to get married to a nice girl and have some nice kids, but the act of making the kids seems pretty fun too.
Even outside of SR, I just wish I could know how long from now it'll be before I can meet my wife. If I just knew how long this would take, it would make it so much easier.
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So somewhere in the middle of February I fapped twice in the same night which is something I never did and I felt so shameful and angry. I was feeling that i have betrayed God. Also watching porn is really demonic, it just doesn’t feel right. You don’t realise how serious SR really is until you realise what you are doing to yourself. Also me having sexual intercourse in the past with my gf’s makes me even more mad knowing I fell from grace. I just completed a month of sr tonight and in April my goal is to not touch any vidya and replace it with more steps. Vidya kept me busy but I’m losing quality time from things I could be learning for, also I’m 33 and i feel time is really running out
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>>42184785
>Deprived OF succubuses no longer excite me. On the other hand trad goodgirls tho
This is how you know you've truly healed. When you can see the real difference between parasite whores and actual women. One steals energy, the other provides. One is theft, the other is mutual exchange. Knowing the difference is the key.
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I think his biggest appeal is the way he completely embraces materialism, which does include money, but also all the other shit like physical appearance, fake personality, etc. It's something all the shallow whores crave in a 'man' which is why they flock to him in droves, but the rest of us can all see he's just a weak insecure faggot.
He does have magnetism, but it's magnetizing all the bad superficial shit rather than something that's actually good.
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blessed thread check these books out niggers
https://pdfcoffee.com/1-5143371307173282101-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/coiledserpent00cjva
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>>42179807
Can confirm the magnetism is kinda BS from SR alone. But the magnetism comes from the fact that you're focusing on yourself more, instead of trying to get sex or find a gf, and that itself is inherently attractive.
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His extreme behavior is interesting. He's like a cartoon character and people are intrigued to find out more.
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I know it's bad for me
I know I never think "that was worth it" after cooming
I know my eyesight gets worse
I know my imagination gets far weaker
I know I get less dreams
I know it fucks my dopamine receptors up
I know it fucks IRL relationships up
I know it makes me less energetic
I know it leads me to more degen stuff
I know it hurts me spiritually
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Hello X, I have a couple questions. I haven't ejaculated since February 17, which I believe is an all-time record for me. I wouldn't call myself a SR practitioner, but I work out a few times a week and I do feel like I have more energy when not working out. This run of no-sex/no-fap has coincided with practicing urine therapy after watching Sam Hyde's "Hidden Medicine" episode. Almost every morning I drink a small cup of my piss after I wake up. I believe for whatever reason this has curbed my sexual appetite so the temptation to jerk off is not overwhelming. Also, its remarkable that I haven't had a wet dream and involuntarily ejaculated during sleep.
However, I got sick the other day, so yesterday morning I skipped the piss-drinking. Then this morning right before I normally get up for the day I had a wet dream about fucking a former co-worker and I woke-up about half way, feeling like I was having an orgasm. But when I got up and looked at the underwear I was wearing, instead of gooey globs of cum, it was just wet and fully absorbed into the underwear.
What was this that came out of my dick when I was sleeping and felt like I was having an orgasm?
Does drinking your piss help with semen retention?
I haven't been to this general in a long time. Is semen retention no longer popular?
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>>42188753
you just had a wet dream.
stop drinking your piss, it's waste, it's meant to leave your body. period.
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>>42184105
Just see how you feel, how is your sperm quality, what does your cock and balls look like, how much energy do you have, etc.
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>Tesla
Died alone and childless
>Nietzsche
Died alone and childless
>Ronnie Coleman
degenerate race-mixer addicted to steroids.
Any other great examples genius?
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>>42190129
Same, this is insane difficulty right now. It doesn't help that I installed dating apps again a couple weeks ago, not like they've gotten me any dates though. I just wish there was a fucking path forward for me.
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>>42187194
I'm a woman and I go through this every time. I know I'll be beating myself up after. I know the shame will weigh on me.
I was able to entirely stop for almost 2 years.
This addiction is so hard to beat, but we will prosper.
God bless!
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>misinformation about Nietzsche
Horseshit. He was a master gooner coomer. His close friend Wagner (yes THAT Wagner) went so far as to write a doctor about Nietzsche's chronic cooming. He probably did 10,000 cum tributes to Cosima Wagner, and ended up having a rough awakening in 1889. Remained a silent buddha for 11 years until the body died.
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>>42191428
biological reality
>>42191832
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Not yours, maybe. Several females have my semen.
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Day 17 (or 0)
I was researching Hannibal Barca and ended up chatting with a pretty girl from my city by messages.
We started to flirt and I edge for a bit, but didn't cummed. My mistake.
I know the beast is dangerous and still want to put my hand in his mouth to see if it bites. Perhaps it was my retarded tendency to contradict myself for its own sake, or just an excuse for my weakness.
Don't really care if I losed my streak at all, I'll keep going forward.
Going to read a book right now and then I'll go to the gym after.
Keep pushing, lads. Don't let anything distract yourselves.
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Depending on your natural levels of libido and the frequency you used to release your semen, you'll have periods of flatline or no sexual arousal. But should go back to normal in one week or two. I recommend you observe if you are training hard, sleeping enough, eating healthy and taking sunlight daily. Because ausence morning woods is a signal of low levels of testosterone.
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>>42193483
Another way to do SR is just to practice Buddhism or gnostic Christianity or something, and eventually you will attain a moral fiber that puts you a step above women. You just won't be interested. If I got with a woman at this point it would basically be a charity case. The Holy Spirit tried to set me up with a wife. When I rejected it (Curt Corban), I had a vision of a goalie block-saving a hockey puck.
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when I started my first sr attempt, I never heard of wet dreams and during the three months that my streak lastet they never happened to me. then after the first relapse, they suddenly started and continued until twoish months ago. It is so weird, like they completelly stopped now. the only habid that I changed was not eating before going to bed
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After many years of constant attempts and relapses, I am finally doing SR the correct way
No weed, no alcohol, no nicotine, no coffee, and no cocaine
Day 4
I'm still redbull pilled though. Synthetic caffeine is the shit niggas
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>>42193483
>training hard,
yes very hard
>sleep
my sleep has been shit in the past week or so
>sunlight
yes i walk everyday
>foods
i eat very healthy and i get optimal amount of fat. I was stressed with some stuff but not in panic mode if you know what i mean. Also in the gym i have been breaking pr's left and right and going hard for the last 3 months
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>>42179807
>cites some retarded zoomer as the reason why SR doesn't work
All you have to do is not smoke and/or drink alcohol. Stay away from porn and actively go out of your way to avoid women. Do these things and you will experience spiritual benefits that those on a higher plane will immediately notice. Lower spiritual beings will resent you and that's when you'll start saying "what's the point omg it doesn't work!!!" Stop being a retarded ass nigguh
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>But when I got up and looked at the underwear I was wearing, instead of gooey globs of cum, it was just wet and fully absorbed into the underwear.
>What was this that came out of my dick when I was sleeping and felt like I was having an orgasm?
The "semen" that comes out with a wet dream is mostly prostate fluid. Much less sperm than with masturbation emission. Emission during sex contains the most sperm and causes the greatest loss of nutrients and energy.
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>>42194518
But why? How does the process work? I'm aware there are no scientific studies, still I think it has to be more than just a permission slip/placebo
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>>42194540
why the hell do you need a study? just look at it logically you fucking bumbling retard: if you remove a precious fluid from your body that replenishes at a very low rate, what the fuck do you think that will do? do you just somehow think that it will have no effect on the body whatsoever? you just think that emptying your semen reserves over and over will maintain your looks? what the fuck retard?
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shouldn't matter if she's 30 there big guy with a big load in ya. my ex was 39 then turned 40 when i was with her and she was as horny as ever. lets keep this PG-13 because there are retainers in here that are deep in focus but the bottom line is that women are horny their entire life
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May is 18 months fap free
I’ve been wanting to celebrate with shrooms to help shift some of my emotions I have around this all so far. Where does someone source shrooms if they don't do drugs nor know any drug dealers at all?
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>>42194957
muh magnetism lol. but yet once you use up the energy your magnetism goes away for the remainder of the day. it works in waves. looks and clothing beat the ever living fuck out of sr if you're talking about just female attraction
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Greetings all. I'm not anti-sex, but for basically the the first time in my adult life I found myself single for a lengthy amount of time after the ending of my most recent long term relationship last year.
I decided to try to reduce my habit (perhaps bordering on addiction) of frequent porn and masturbation. I have a rather high libido, and even found myself indulging at times during past relationships if I was out of town for work, or my SO was on her period, etc.
First I began by 'taking off' on weekends, figuring that it was at least a start, and would be one way of "keeping holy the Sabbath" as part of re-engaging in authentic Christian faith. I feel like it's generally easier to take baby steps with cutting back on addictive behaviors rather than going immediately 100% cold turkey.
Then, in January of this year, I stretched into longer and longer periods of abstinence, trying to limit the habit to only once per week.
I then gave it up entirely for Lent this year. Technically I'm still on the home stretch; Easter Sunday is around the corner. It's been difficult at times, but if you set your mind to it it's not an impossible task.
I'm not necessarily on board with all of the claimed benefits, but I can definitely see something of a psychological cleansing. Pornography imho is definitely toxic to the soul, and certainly makes you devalue other human beings through objectification. And to some degree, it debases you to the animal level, convulsed by lust -- too much sexual appetite resulting in a kind of spiritual obesity.
I can't say for sure what the future holds, but I think at minimum I'd like to refrain from as frequent of indulging in the behavior, and ideally with only the use of my imagination and no pornography. (This is way easier to do if you've limited yourself to infrequent practice).
Anyways just wanted to share my experiences so far.
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Science based insights about semen retention/chastity:
>Is orgasm always pleasant?
No, orgasm is only pleasant under certain conditions, the main one being tiredness. Seems to be true for both male and female. After orgasm both male and female relax, and go through a refractory period with increased sleepiness. If you are more stressed then you should be, then you will get the urge to ejaculate. If you are not tired nor stressed, and you ejaculate you feel bad before, during and notoriously after ejaculation. Your body prioritizes rest and when you are tired orgasm is a way to increase to rest. This information can help both theists and atheists to balance their sexual behavior. It also explains why if a tense male tries to relax, especially in a more stressful setting, he might feel the urge to ejaculate. It also explains why a modern male will choose to ejaculate alone instead of seeking female companionship: the female might end up increasing his stress levels.
>Do I lose important chemicals through ejaculation?
Barely nothing is lost physically during ejaculation, you can look at near a century length of scientific evidence to verify this. The amount of water lost is low, testosterone isn't expelled, choline mass lost is insignificant, and minerals are lost at small amounts. So if you are not on a restrictive diet nor dehydrated the physical loss is null.
>Does my dopamine and testosterone go down after ejaculation?
Your dopamine goes down notoriously during and after ejaculation, it's part of the reason orgasm can be pleasant and anxiolytic. Dopamine is released for planning and prediction, including for prediction of bad outcomes which qualifies as anxiety. This also explains why orgasm can feel bad, you might have been using the dopamine for something useful. Your testosterone can go up after orgasm if it leads to a nap or nightsleep, otherwise it stays roughly the same. I encourage the reader to look for studies on this.
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>Barely nothing is lost physically during ejaculation, you can look at near a century length of scientific evidence to verify this. The amount of water lost is low, testosterone isn't expelled, choline mass lost is insignificant, and minerals are lost at small amounts. So if you are not on a restrictive diet nor dehydrated the physical loss is null.
100% false
>When the average male ejaculates, he loses about one tablespoon of semen. According to scientific research, the nutritional value of this amount of semen is equal to that of two pieces of New York steak, ten eggs, six oranges, and two lemons combined. That includes proteins, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, everything.
>The semen also contains a great deal of vital energy; therefore, an ejaculation also represents a great deal of lost vital energy. This is demonstrated by the exhaustion felt by the man after ejaculation. Ejaculation is often called "coming". The precise word for it should be "going", because everything-the erection, vital energy, millions of live sperms, hormones, nutrients, even a little of the man's personality-goes away. It is a great sacrifice for the man, spiritually, mentally, and physically.
Dr. Stephen T. Chang. 'The Tao of Sexology'
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>>42194937
There are some clearnet vendors which will ship shrooms internationally from countries where they are legal. But you will have better success from darknet vendors in your own country. You will need Tor browser, and then search on Dread forums. Dread is kind of a darknet reddit
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>two pieces of New York steak, ten eggs, six oranges, and two lemons combined.
I agree that vital energy is lost and ejaculation should not be done frivolously, but your quote is bullshit. If even half that much nutrition was lost, I would've died as a teenager from cooming due to malnutrition.
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>>42195917
I started jerking at 10 years old and did it non stop till I was 28. I see old videos of of my self and I sound like a fag. I started retaining and I now only ejaculate with my wife. I’m trying to work on having sex without ejaculating. I’m at 19 days and I’ve been circulating my energy and haven’t been dealing with the blue balls and lustful thoughts. And life’s pretty good actually
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Jesus the most important man in the history of humanity was celibate and a virgin he lived without sin and i intend to continue living like Christ until the moment of my death to live celibately like Christ is a blessing
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>I’m trying to work on having sex without ejaculating
Unless you mean Orgasm without ejaculation(unsafe from a biological point of view), this is rather easy. The problem is without orgasm the lust can continue. If you don't want to jizz it's more logical to not engage in sex altogether.
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My libido has been killed by semen retention (4-7 day flatline period)
That means it isn't a psyop and it's working.
I shall wait to be horny again because I'm not an impatient spastic
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>>42179394
No fap is a fucking trap to continue to reduce test amongst the population. They realized it was profitable but now and dialing back to keep you a low t weenie.
It’s true porn rots your brain but cumming makes your body produce more sperm which is what produces the most testosterone. Not cumming = not producing testosterone. Any benefits from not doing so are placebo and priming. Inb4 someone posts the just cum meme
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>>42200364
Either embrace it and transmute the energy tantra style, or get a fuck partner and practice giving pleasure to your partner.
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>>42200019
It’s funny that this zombie writes in such a manner; it looks a bit strange and makes you think, doesn’t it?
And overall, a small piece of advice: if you get a thought with the urge to masturbate, in that case bring another thought into your head — “why should I fapp? It’s meaningless.” Also, I’ll add that at the very least this practice trains— I wanted to say the mind, but that wouldn’t be entirely accurate, it seems to me - and in any case, if you can abstain, then dependencies like smoking, for example, will be easy to quit without any problem. I won’t say anything about alcohol, as I didn’t have any problems with it.
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WAGMI
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I survived the full moon
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just went over 100 days recently (haven't been counting exactly but I started in mid december), it's been so long since I've gone this long that I don't even remember what it felt like. I'll be honest I do remember it feeling more profound the first few times.
I was hoping the shit about bodily regeneration stuff was real but if anything my right knee pain has only gotten worse since december.
Went to a wedding this week and it made me confront things
idk man I feel a bit closer to something profound and a bit more grounded and calm but when I first started fucking with SR it felt genuinely life-changing. Might need to explore it deeper as a practice, chastemaxxing has probably hit a ceiling
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what made this one so brutal in particular? I agree, this one was really fucking hard and when I found it it was near the full-moon it made sense.
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Retained for possibly 2 weeks, lost count but failed last night. Weird thing is when I blasted, I felt this odd pain inside my ass I've never felt before. Anyone else experienced some shit like that? Did I get fucked by a demon? The pain lasted for a few seconds after then went away and honestly from that alone, I never want to spill my seed again.
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Yeah you got astrally ass fucked, sorry
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>what made this one so brutal in particular?
NTA that already replied, but the combination of anxiety + fatigue + anger was at a 9/10 for me. i was just vibrating. last 2 full moons were whatever, didn't even notice. but this one, fuck, what a week. still coming down.
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I literally had two dreams this month where I supposedly "relapsed" in my dream... But not really? In my dream I remember thinking stuff like "oh no why did I do it, why why" but I don't remember actually doing it in the dream... Just that I already did it somehow.
Then I woke up and realized it was only a dream and I never relapsed, not even a wet dream or anything. Something is trying to make me feel the shame even tho I haven't done it. Anyone else have these dreams?
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>of anxiety + fatigue + anger was at a 9/10 for me.
Are you me? I was having some deadlines on a project but man i wasn't sleeping + had all the shit you described. How do we recover? I'm day 34 and it's NOT getting better
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>recover
Idk man. I've been an SR practitioner for 6ish years, and I think the the ups and downs never go away, but the overall average/baseline slowly rises. I believe as we become more sensitive and aware of ourselves on multiple levels, we also become stronger. blessing and a curse kinda thing. with great power comes great responsibility and blah blah blah
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Does SR just not work for some people?
I see posts in here all the time talking about
>"I went 100 days and it didn't change anything, I don't feel any different, it's placebo blah blah blah."
For me, the benefits of this practice are undeniable.
Even my eyesight improved. Everything looks sharper, it's like my vision went from 360p to the 4k blu-ray remaster.
Even music sounds better.
And women become so thirsty it's insane, I've had women stalking me and outright begging me for sex.
This literally only ever happens when I'm on an SR streak.
I've even tried to trick myself into getting the benefits using Law of Attraction on myself but it never works.
To the guys who don't see any benefits from this, I don't know what you're doing wrong. Maybe SR just doesn't work for some guys. Sucks for you I guess.
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I tell you the secret: Every single day, you visualize the goals you wanna hit. You feel it, you see it right in front of you, you can almost smell it. And it's like you're drawing on the exact same picture, on the same piece of paper...... it just keeps getting thicker, darker, more alive... until it's done. Why don't you see a general like this on /fit/? Cuz those modafuckers are super autistic materialists. It's not gonna work its magic unless the holy peer review says so
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i think it not feeling like anything or painful is what traps people who break a streak. Causes you to start chasing looking for the good feeling you remember, seen it a thousand times in SRG. People who go from months-long streaks to cumming every single day again, they are just chasing the dragon. If it felt good and satisfying you could easily just wait another few months again. That's why anons usually avoid talking about anything less than perfect chastity as alternative explorations of retaining, orgasm and sexual energy is difficult for most people (myself included but desu I posted earlier that I think I've hit a ceiling with this approach)
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sr is a big cope. fucked my last girlfriend on the first date (got her naked in my car then drove to back to my place to fuck then drove her back to her car) and arrived to the date after cranking my penis to some redgifs naked bakers porn
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>>42206292
Everyone here knows SR is a cope, we're just larping to see if we can make people get cancer cause it's funny. Literally anyone with common sense knows that it's normal for any male to trick his brain into believing he has access to sex with hundreds of thousands of women and watch other people fuck the girls they want while looking at a screen. To compare it to natural behavior, looking at a screen and jerking off is like standing and seeing a hot couple in front of you kiss, have sex and getting your pants down and jerking off, there's no difference. I'm sure the people who did this throughout history had great success.
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I don’t count the days anymore but I stopped fapping and looking at porn in January. All I gotta say is retaining your sperm for physical and spiritual health is a thousand percent real but you all already know this I’m sure. I feel like how I did 10 years ago before I started getting really depressed, but still slightly depressed. That’s why I’m gonna keep at it and never go back. I haven’t even begun to transmute it yet, barely started lifting or exercising or anything really, just pushups. That changes this week as I finally regained the energy and focus to get back at it. To all the people on this path god bless you
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the thing that makes porn addiction so insidious is the solo nature of it. you're all alone, battling something nebulous, that most people are ignorant towards. in >>42207821 picrel, hunting, war, art, etc all those things men openly discussed, taught each other how to do, you sought out mentors, teachers, you had communal support, etc.. you'd come home from the hunt, a battle, and you had your family or neighbors or friends to talk shop, relieve pressure, discuss tactics, ideas, whatever.
porn is you alone, wrestling with yourself; most people retarded to it's toxic nature, and it's not exactly something you can bring up to your neighbor when you bump into them at the mailbox. and then you got the people neck deep in the addiction that think it's good for you. it also hijacks so many psychological pathways and rewires you in a fucked up way. hunting and war makes you stronger, even if you lost the hunt or the battle.
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Day 41 here, longest I have ever been on sr.
I feel an enormous sense of peace that is after a wave of sadness came by.
I don't know why but interacting with people became simple and enjoyable.
Do you guys have any info on consciously redirecting sexual energy to another person (woman) or something like that? Much appreciated.
WGMI
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I don't know you guys. I'm just so fucking done with this. I look a little better, I've gotten some things done. But what I really want is a woman who loves me, and it seems no matter how long I go without jerking off, my ability to find that person remains unaffected. Or my ability to find ANY woman for that matter. Seems like, if anything, I make the wrong move with women more instantaneously on SR than I usually do. I've lost count how many times I've wanted to relapse and reminded myself that I worked so hard to get as far as I already have and I don't want to throw that away. Ultimately, it hasn't brought me what I wanted. I don't mean to say this isn't worth it, it very much is, but somehow it's turned into perpetual torture for me. The boost of energy and sense of purpose went away eventually. At times I've felt contentment with the universe too, but that never lasted either.
I wouldn't want to turn anyone away from this, SR is objectively a good thing, I just feel too weak to take it much further. The only reason I haven't relapsed already is that it's been Good Friday and Easter, and I just couldn't relapse on those days. I've relapsed due to strong urges before, but this would be the first time that I've relapsed out of pure dejection.
I just want a lucky break, just once. Something to make me feel like I'm getting somewhere. Because in my life, there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between hard work and reward.
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I busted a nut bros. I really did. Around day 10....11 at max. It was my very first attempt. And the thing is it felt good. Dare I say my body needed this little treat. I feel so comfortable and calm and relaxed. Like after a good cardio. Busted a thicc load watching a girl playing with slime ASMR style (no underage shit) just the the sound of her slimy hands and the way she was moaning "ah that feels good" made me cum bad. Before this I had to goon on rough group porn and orgies and shit. I think I'm healing
I'm saying this cuz of some of yall talking about some kinda guilt or remorse after relapsing. Not in my case and I'm glad for that honestly
But now my next goal is at the very least 30+ days. I'm gonna slowly slowly build this up, I can do it
Unconditional love from all that is
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People have said this my whole life, and they never explain how to actually get to that point. I do all the right things on paper, but I've never felt that sense of contentment with independence. I don't hate myself either, I'm very happy in my own head actually. So I consider your statement an empty platitude in all honesty.
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The tldr is having a purpose that's beyond going to work and making money, living instead of just surviving basically. Women are nice to supplement a man's life but they aren't meant to be your primary goal, you need to find what that is and until you do you're going to feel uneasy even if a 10/10 walked up to you tomorrow to ask you out
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>>42209935
I absolutely do have other purposes that I live for. If I was alone forever, I could ultimately make peace with it. I live for making art, I do photography and want to make a film, and I take that incredibly seriously, most of the joy I feel is as a result of those things and I know they're my calling in this life. But I still want to have a family just as badly and can't help but feel dejection if I can't have one and can never really understand why.
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Lock in bros... DO NOT GO ON A BINGE. Get a good start tomorrow and make April a great month
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Still clean today and haven't struggled with lust, but I've decided to give up drinking as well since I feel one habit feeds the other. I feel very still, but at the same time I feel restless. Everything is so quiet and 'heavy', and I really am craving a drink. But I know 2 will turn to 4 which will become 6-8 and then I'll wake up tomorrow with no energy to do anything. I also think the lack of alcohol has caused other feelings to creep in like loneliness, which it usually numbs. I'm reading a book right now and my goal is to just get through the night sober on both fronts. My body (and soul) will thank me later.
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>>42209849
Every time you challenge yourself and overcome an urge it leaves you with an opportunity for reflection
over time these experiences build up in your heart and you see the world differently, at least thats the effect its had on me
imo the main benefits are the confidence you get from realizing you can control yourself, even if the world around you is a chaotic mess
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Nofappers are the victims of a humiliation ritual.
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>>42209956
oldfag here. you're doing it all wrong man. you're not supposed to do things "right" to get a girl by chasing her. you say two alarming statements that remind me of me when I was a young dumbass (no offense)
>But what I really want is a woman who loves me
>I've never felt that sense of contentment with independence
you're still a child. again, not trying to be harsh or offend you. age has nothing to do with it. most men are still children in the west. but wanting a woman to love you is a child's mentality still operating from a wounded mother relationship. or at best, beta male behavior.
no healthy, successful relationship came from a man chasing a woman. when you're truly living at your edge, truly flying towards your purpose, a real woman (not an adult girl) will sniff you out, and you'll proceed carefully. a woman can amplify your life into something amazing, but should never be the focus.
>they never explain how to actually get to that point
and they never will. this always infuriated me in my 30s. I was screaming at people, gurus, wisemen at the top of the mountain, to tell me how. it's different for everyone, and your life's work will be defining that path and figuring it out for yourself. it will be the hardest thing you've ever done, and will ever do. and to make it even more confusing, you never really "get there", it's a continually evolving process.
any time you "want a woman to love you", remind yourself that's a child wanting his mommy to comfort him and take the pain away.
man up, buckle up, and ride the lightning
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>>42210562
This.
I had a woman who “loved me”, and she really belived it, and I could see for a fact she was just operating under whore woman mindset.
It’s easy to see you just, even a woman who “loves you totally as you do”, you must force and control that and guard it and cultivate it, and lie for it, and reject yet steal it.
It sucks, because as a man you can imagine you would love a person and then no matter what, on your whole honor and being, you would defend and protect them. This is not the case for women. The ones who do get to be 50 or 60 and then pretend it was this way the whole time are a lie, they serve and obey and follow the money, the glory. It sucks, but it is true.
Too many men are pussies, and I say that was a very feminine and daffy and pussy faggot myself, and yet, as faggy and retarded as I am, so are all else so much more faggy and retarded as me. It is a shame.
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>>42210562
I think what you're describing is making peace with the fact that it took you until old age to find and fulfill any purpose at all. A desperate, self-preserving defense mechanism. It's not an insult. The world shouldn't be this way.
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>>42210810
>The world shouldn't be this way.
someone gonna tell him?
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In my experience, there is no profound contentment, higher vibration, or new level of consciousness to be had from doing this. You get some benefits, sure, but you definitely don't get happier. Maybe even more miserable.
The reason you do it is that anything else is an affront to God.
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>>42210935
> God
The universe is so vast that if you consider the entire Earth one word, not even every word said by every human in the whole of history amounts to the volume of the universe we can see alone. But the creator of all that? He cared deeply about whether or not you touch your peepee. Like, a lot. Be scared.
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>>42209911
no that's definitely not it. purpose is ego retardation. to know if you are ready to enter a relationship with a grown woman you must be able to sit or stand somewhere and be able to stare at a wall for at least twelve hours without going crazy and with very few thoughts altogether added up. if you can do that then that means you are capable of living alone or with someone else and without clinging to them. can't do that then be my guest and suffer together with her as you'll always be too pussy to open up to her and eventually she'll dump your ass for a real man that can stare at a wall all day who doesn't care whether she's at home with him or not at any given moment. this is how energy works. you have to be independent energetically before you can be around others without creating unnecessary suffering for the two of you
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Anons needs a little advice. The reason I started SR wasn’t related to girls or anything sexual. I just wanted to stop watching porn and, let’s say, gain control over my desires in general. But damn, for the last two days my dreams have literally been attacking me. The first one was milder, but on the second day the dream was actually kind of wild - like a double dream. First there was a girl and temptation, and then in the dream I kind of realized that I'd had a wet dream. When I woke up, it turned out I didn’t, tho. But at first I was disappointed, thinking I didn’t hold it together because I thought it was not a dream but a real situation when I checked my pants in the dream lol. Any advice on dealing with this stuff?
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>>42211059
Sounds like you all think a woman is some sort of holy grail you quest for. Women are human and as retarded as men. Easiest lay i ever had was during a depressed spiral pulling my nuts off every night. It all seems random
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>>42211836
>Women are human and as retarded as men.
girls are, women aren't. men aren't retarded, boys are. just cause you stuck your peepee in some retarded girl doesn't mean it was a quality person or a quality encounter.
if all you want is a wet hole to coom in then life is going to be incredibly easy for you
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>>42211682
learn some lucid dreaming techniques. Look up reality check exercises. Once you become lucid you can face the dreams and make the decisions you want. Sometimes it's hard if you get lucid in the middle of a sexy dream because you need to make the choice to disengage and take control, but you'll feel stronger for doing so
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>>42212584
This might sound stupid, but i just can’t do it. I’ve been trying to get into lucid dreaming for about 10+ years, and in all that time it’s only worked maybe 4-5 times, and apparently by accident.
What’s a reality check exactly? Like, looking at your hands?
Maybe you could share some method or insight, if you don’t mind.
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>>42212649
I don't mind but i'll keep what works for me brief:
Reality checks that work for me are: counting fingers (you'll have more than 10 in dream), holding nose (you can breathe through it), pinching myself (won't feel anything or it will feel like weird tingling) and looking at a clock twice (the times will be different each time). You have to do this in the waking world often. The idea is if you make this a regular thing you do in the waking world, you'll start doing them in dreams especially when things seem askew.
I used to be heavily into LD when younger and was constantly reading about it, posting on forums, organising my dream journals etc. so I thought about it a lot so was doing RCs all the time. What I might do now if I really wanted to get back into doing it regularly is set alarms through the day and ask myself sincerely "is this a dream?" and do an RC.
Probably the most important thing I can suggest you start with right now is keeping a dream journal. Write fragments if you remember only that and eventually you'll be writing longer entries. Strong awareness and detailing of dreams is important. I have to be honest I stopped doing this because I was remembering three dreams a night in crazy detail and was writing every one, which meant I was getting fractured and less sleep. The solution to that I can suggest is just scribble anything in the dark and try and interpret them in the morning.
oh and set an alarm earlier than you usually want because the most active times for LDs in my experience is when you wake up and go back to bed shortly after. If you know your sleep cycles you can time alarms to coincide with REM phases and shit and hop back into really intense dreams (can cause sleep paralysis)
Once you are in a dream and you become lucid it's easy to get too excited or freaked out and what works really well for me to stay lucid or asleep is rubbing my hands and spinning in a circle. That'll ground you in the dream.
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Stuff you can take which I can vouch for: calea zacatechichi, mugwort, valerian and magnesium. Nicotine as well, at one point I was putting patches on when going to sleep for the express purposes of having vivid lucid dreams. Be aware that these things colour your dreams and I didn't need them when I was younger. Mugwort works well but can give you kinda dark and intense dreams but those are interesting in their own way. Valerian is kinda chill for me, and calea is usually deeply spiritual and profound.
The kind of dream you describe with dreams-within-dreams are really crazy. I've had sub-dreams in which I was lucid, woke up into another dream in which I wasn't and then woken up for real, unsure if I was in another dream.
I've recently had sex dreams in which I was getting tempted but became lucid and managed to fight temptation and turn that dream into something profound.
that's basically all I can say about it now really, sorry if it's disorganised. I know there's a bunch of techniques people have developed if you really struggle, like FILD but I never needed to use them. Good luck. Start with journalling and doing RCs and see where it goes. I'm getting back into it again because the sex dreams, succubi, whatever you wanna call it are really difficult for me right now but i'm gaining power over them
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i'll just add that it's relevant to SR because last week I had a dream in which a woman was trying to get me to cum and masturbate for her, I became lucid long enough to say no and walk away, and then in the dream I was losing lucidity - but then I turned and prayed to god, which i haven't done in a very long time even in the waking world. i really felt something deep there and i've been carrying a strange, comforting and unplaceable feeling since.
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Thanks, anon, for explaining everything in such detail. I need to think about how to best adapt this to myself, and I’ll also add some reality check methods to test out.
Overall, I’ve read about some of the methods you described before, but I’m only interested in a natural entry - don’t want to force it, like with alarms or any external stuff.
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>>42212876
>don’t want to force it, like with alarms or any external stuff.
that's fair and i get it, that's why i recommend journalling and questioning/rc so you can use LD more defensively for when you need to prevent wet dreams
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>>42212914
I understand, and big thanks. Right now, with SR, I feel much better internally plus will continue to meditate. So I think this is a good time to try adding this as well
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Day 30 something here and i saw a beautiful woman in my gym today and she has been in my mind all day, she smiled at me a week ago and didn't really care, but now that im away from porn aswell I felt like I desired her which is not good. How do I kill lust? I haven't felt so attacted to a woman in my 30's. She is 22
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>>42213073
Realize that you don’t need her at the moment, the energy you carry within should be diverted towards your goals. The goal is to improve physically and mentally that’s the only reason you’re at the gym. If you give all of that energy towards your goal at any given time and block out all distractions, people will notice and become curious. So you met her already then, since you know her age?
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>>42211865
:fire: :cherry:
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>>42213162
>people will notice and become curious
And when does this happen exactly? Because i have been locked in for more than 3 years in the gym never missing a day. I did get some mires but it's pointless at the end of the day. I know her age because she posted a story on the ig page of the gym and her bio says her age
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I had back pain I forgot about and only remembered after I broke a 30+ day streak. My lower back felt like it had a messed up disc or something, I'm poor so I never got it checked out.
After like 5 days on the horse again, back pain magically gone so now I think it's related to goonin..
What do y'all think is happening? Is this chakra stuff or something?
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>>42213692
gooning/cooming is tough on your kidneys
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>>42179394
My ten day streak ended because I was bored. My cock didn’t feel any pleasure because I’m on Paxil. When I was on antipsychotics I could go months without releasing without any effort because I had no sex drive. I’ll probably start retaining again because my orgasms suck and sex really isn’t that interesting to me anymore.
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i love my brazzers videos because they showcase the best super clean buttholes in the industry and give you some great closeups with perfect lighting so you can really see the woman's anus which is the best part on the woman's body. with that said i don't have any interests in letting go of my brazzers and masturbation. and i've been in relationships and fucking the same woman gets boring as hell after a while. especially after you've explored her butthole and licked it over and over there's no more thrill even if you retain your seed and abstain from porn the thrill just goes the fuck away. that's why porn serves a purpose
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I’m 5 months in and no lie I look and feel like my early 20 y/o self, 33 year old boomer btw. Lines under my eyes disappeared, one of the things that was bugging me since I turned 30. I get up every morning before 7am and run, shit that I’ve never done ever in my life, the energy is too crazy. Don’t ever be like the retarded failures above me who are so low they take pride in it. Also semen retention when you’re already kind of attractive is like leveling up in social status so be prepared. I’ve had a woman leave her number down on my car after I left the gym, she wrote it down on a damn ripped up Newport box. Shit is no joke. I fucking despise coomers
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>>42214752
Yes... YES! This post right here, screen capped. People need to understand the REJUVINATING powers of SR. People mostly focus on the female attraction aspect, but they shouldn't. Combine SR with health affirmations and clean living (healthy eating and exercise) and you're basically golden.
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>>42214752
how am i a failure for being in relationships all my life and recognizing how stale sex gets to be with them? i enjoy the novelty of seeing brand new buttholes on my screen or in person, that's a thrill to live another day for because you get to analyze the tightness, color, size and other details of their anus and it's just an incredible experience all around
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>>42214761
It makes you wanna go out of your way and eat healthy, I’ve been brewing teas with all kind of stuff thrown in together, mint, ginger, aloe vera, coconut oil, etc. if you told me to do some shit like that before living like this I’d laugh at you, but I was a lazy scumbag anyway
>>42214767
That’s retarded, I can just get a Newport box, rip it up and write some shit down you fucking retard. It’s in my car I don’t feel like getting it you’ll just have to take my word
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>>42214863
that's fine with me, man. i heard there was a chance that a girl from your neighboring city could sense that you were at the gym due to your gigantic sack and pheromones being emitted and she drove all the way to your gym to buy a day pass and talk to you, did that happen the other day too?
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>t. depleted coomer FUCK
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>>42214970
i don't give a fuck at all, actually. i get to see brand new buttholes in 4k and enjoy myself right then and there, you absolute fuck
>>42214911
no not at all actually, i enjoyed posting that because that anon is larping up a big show for big sr
>>42214918
i would hate to say this and ruin the current line we're on but i get approached everywhere i go sr or not. that's why i don't buy into the entire bullshit of it. i fucked my last two gf's on the first date. with the last one i was literally watching redgifs naked bakers porn before i met her at the mall where she drove back with me to my apartment to fuck after getting naked in my car and then i drove her back to her car. i simply have an issue with how much you anons play it out to be with attraction. you should be getting girls numbers even when you have zero semen in your body and that's the ultimate truth, anon. that's the foundation. sr is a hack to cover up one's face weaknesses
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yea okay call it what you want. should i continue elaborating and reveal to you that i've been devoted to sr multiple times? it's just that the suffering isn't worth the gain when i can get women with or without it and i'm just going to end up ejaculating with them anyway
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Do me favor, type in naked bakers porn on 4plebs /x/ to see what the mind of an absolute addict and failure of a man >>42215008 is. I know it’s kinda messed up to say but part of the reason I still come back here is to see exactly shit like this as a reminder not to be that. He wants everyone to be miserable like him because he doesn’t have the willpower to stick with this. Sad!
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>>42215035
yes i've had an addiction to porn for about eighteen years now. i was introduced to it from the family computer getting a porn virus and my parents even told me not to click it and sure enough i clicked on it and from that very moment i was hooked. crazy to think that i still remember that one moment too, i just saw the desktop icon of the pixelated woman and clicked on it right away despite them telling me not to. then from there i continued using the family computer but hiding it from them the entire time. it sucks because when i enter a relationship i end up getting bored and go right back to it because the novelty wears off and i need more of it. i've admitted to myself for many years now that i've struggled with it but i wouldn't go as far as saying i'm a failure for it. i still get girls but it's just that my priorities are entirely messed up and each and every time i try to make the ultimate breakthrough i always end up slipping at the very end of the day on a long streak when my willpower looks the other way for a moment. i can beat it, i know i can
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>>42215056
Maybe if you stop trying to take others down out of envy you would have a better shot at it, just a thought. Bitterness is poison for the soul and even if you don't believe what someone is saying, it isn't necessary to try to demoralize others since we're all trying to do something extremely difficult here.