>>248213
yep.

That's why it's the basic that are taught a lot and refined most of the time.
Then, you do the classes for the advanced techniques to get better given a ruleset as you'll face knowledgable opponents with a set of rules.

What else do you need to prove retard ? MMA doesn't stop bullets ? Faggot

>>248213
>you don't get it bro I just see red

and after you master the fundamentals you can start doing tricks

the only thing I've learned from watching MMA is if any trained killer tries fucking with you just poke him in the eye bro, that shit is kryptonite

>>248376
He will poke you in the eye/kick your knee in before you do

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>>248213
bro in the chair did not put up much of a fight. I guess its how you use the skills and not the skills themselves

>>248213
"There's like 2 or 3 wrestling moves that work in mma. Wrestling mostly works in mma because it gives you right mindset"
-Chael Sonnen

>>248213
>99% of Martial arts = useless in a fight
This, eskrima, iaijutsu, and gun kata are the only effective options for the streets.
>inb4 “I don’t carry a long knife, sword, gun”
Start.

>>250084
Most countries don't allow you to carry weapons. Also have fun meeting bubba and friends in the shower after having a minor scuffle which you pull out your " long knife"

Further to that, a trained BJJ fighter will most likely shove that knife up your own asshole kek

>>250088
>a trained BJJ “fighter” will beat a trained swordsman
bruh

>>250088
Naw, you'll die trying bjj against anyone with a knife. You need actual Japanese ju jitsu, or to get lucky and hold them and hit hard for a good ko, or to have stamina and know the area to run.

>>248213
>Most martial arts technique is useless in MMA

You're either retarded or ragebaiting

>>250088
>Further to that, a trained BJJ fighter will most likely shove that knife up your own asshole kek

Purple belt here, no I fucking won't and neither will the previously mentioned McDojo arts like 'eskrima, iaijutsu, and gun kata' (Fucking hilariously retarded btw, I don't know what level of delusional weeb you have to be to subscribe to any of these).

But I'm also not retarded enough to try and fight someone with a knife/gun and die, unlike the previously mentioned. Fortunately I live in a country where the likelyhood of either is incredibly low, making bjj super practical.

>>248213
Yes, if you don't care about the sport and just want to have a fighting chance in a real fight, carry a weapon (like an easily concealable gun or knife, depending on the law) and train with it, at lest enough to know how to use it. It will be faster and much more effective than 20+ years of martial arts training.

>>250088
>Most countries don't allow you to carry weapons.
Good thing your knife was originally intended for "opening packages" and not as a weapon. And good thing that you are always carrying a convenient tiny package that you were intending to open before the officers of the law stopped you to question you about your knife.

>>250965
You have no idea what you are talking about

>>250846
>fighting people with weapons is stupid and you’ll lose
>training weapon arts is delusional mcdojo shit
Pick one.

>>248213
>Street fight starts
>I immediately grovel on the ground asking for mercy
>Take a knee and extent my arms to beg for my life
>MMA guy tries to put me in a triangle leg choke
>"This move works cause he can't punch me teehee"
>Suddenly I'm the bad guy when I make a snack out of his shriveled nuts
>Suck dick in like a noodle and tie it in a knot with my tongue
>He let's go, begging me to stop
>Let go and poke in his eyes with all my weight behind my thumbs as I stand up
>I walk away, pick the heaviest object I find and run back at him 13 minutes later
>Flip the ambulance stretcher and aim for his spine
>Didn't even sprawl
>His friends and family try to jump in, but they are weak due to me systematically poisoning their water supply for 3 months
>I shoot all 23 of them dead while they shit and puke blood
MMA rules are so constricting. They have no place in the art of war.

Most retarded take, almost everything from the main five (boxing, Muay Thai, jiu jitsu, wrestling, judo) is useful depending on context. It’s better to have it and not need it. Would pulling guard and going for single x as a main strategy be retarded? Of course. But if you end up there you’d better know what to do. That said, generally a double leg, pinning them in half guard and bashing them is the optimal strategy. Also arguing about what’s useful in da streetz is boring and useless

The only fight in my adult life that came to blows was saved because I learned a judo throw at a workshop at a fucking anime con. He went to punch my head and I rolled him over my back onto the ground (don't know what it's actually called) and while I still had his arm I started double-boot stomping on his head four or five times until I broke and ran for it.

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>>248213
MMA is useless and dangerous in street fights. The last thing you want to do in a street fight is grapple someone and try to throw muay thai knees or submit them. Cue their friends kicking you in the head or worse, them pulling a knife and stabbing the shit out of you. On the streets, all of your distance-maintaining styles like taekwondo and karate regain importance. Aikido and judo are useful for redirecting attacks and avoiding getting sued. That is, if you want to handle those situations realistically as an adult and not end up in court or in the morgue. But by all means, go be a tough guy.

>>251435
cinema

>>251435
>>Street fight starts
>>I immediately grovel on the ground asking for mercy
>>Take a knee and extent my arms to beg for my life
>>MMA guy tries to put me in a triangle leg choke
>>"This move works cause he can't punch me teehee"
>>Suddenly I'm the bad guy when I make a snack out of his shriveled nuts
>>Suck dick in like a noodle and tie it in a knot with my tongue
>>He let's go, begging me to stop
>>Let go and poke in his eyes with all my weight behind my thumbs as I stand up
>>I walk away, pick the heaviest object I find and run back at him 13 minutes later
>>Flip the ambulance stretcher and aim for his spine
>>Didn't even sprawl
>>His friends and family try to jump in, but they are weak due to me systematically poisoning their water supply for 3 months
>>I shoot all 23 of them dead while they shit and puke blood
>MMA rules are so constricting. They have no place in the art of war
CINE

>MMA
>no rules fighting
>fighting a near-naked man strictly 1v1in a cage with a soft subfloor

>>248213
>Most martial arts technique is useless in MMA or no rules fighting.
not really. it's just hollywood gives a false sense of what martial arts really is. MMA = mix martial arts. it's just some forms lack some shit so they mix them together.

>>248213
No martial arts or MMA bullshit is going to beat a group full of diverse future doctors & lawyers who are going to church every Sunday and need more money for dem programs.

>>248213

Lol, tell me you don't know how to fight and have never been in one without telling me OP.

You OP like most men are a pussy and do not know how to fight, every body talks a big game, because you'll likely never have to prove it, but you're just speculating.

The truth is technique is everything and people who train and spar do that repetition daily, I know where your liver is and when to dip and hit it, most people never felt a liver shot. Most people in a street fight don't know how to throw a proper kick and do not expect a stranger to be able to throw a roundhouse 6ft in the air, or a spinning back kick, and even less could defend it. You don't know how to slip, and if you start throwing how quickly you gas out, meanwhile I know both those things.

See I'm prepared for a day that may never come, but if it does I'm ready. Meanwhile you probably don't even know how to put your weight behind a punch. Stay bitch made OP, but don't make excuses.

>>255124
Whaoo! We got a badass over here!!

>>248213
KOTS has proven that all those geeks who say "Oh i'd just go for your eyes immediately" were actually right all along

>>255360
You still need dominant position to do that

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>>255360
It proved them wrong because of >>255392

In KOTS you never guys eye-poking their way out of trouble. It's always one guy who's already beating the shit out of the other dude delivering the coup de grace.

>>255392
>>255394
you can still jab them standing without needing to go 28 days on someone, like ufc poster boys. going for the nuts can be a kick, not necessarily chewing them up.
also it's not true 100% life or death. if you are on top and not gouging my eyes out, it's a good idea for me not to tell you I'm ready to go that far, so you don't get the idea and give me the same treatment from a better place for it. better to have a concussion than a concussion and blindness. maybe if you play it right it works (ex: using something to avoid just the gouging, like tying you with my shirt just right), but the risk is high.
and if I'm grabbing your nape and going for it on equal ground, you can do it too. quick stabs and pokes are safer because you can switch positions. also you could do enough damage without needing control if you finger someone just right, just like with a strike laying down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqPgR5pnIn8
This thread in a nutshell

>>250088
>Further to that, a trained BJJ fighter will most likely shove that knife up your own asshole kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipf1mROm6rg
In a later season, it was discovered that aiming for an immediate headkick is really the only option

>>248213
You just need a good striking and a good takedown defence

>>253485
Rather be in jail then dead you stupid chucklehead dicklicker

>>253485
>MMA is useless
Completely useless is an exaggeration. But certain techniques or strategies being bad for the different conditions of the street is perfectly true. One of the most egregious is the ground-and-pound strategy. If you want to look good in court or use minimal force you can just pin the guy once they’re on the ground, and if you want to look bad or are in an extreme situation that calls for drastic action you can stomp them properly to disable their limbs or potentially kill them. But ground-and-pound has the worse of both worlds with none of the benefits.
>The last thing you want to do in a street fight is grapple someone and try to throw muay thai knees or submit them.
Not all grappling is ground grappling. Standing submissions exist, and the rear-naked-choke has been adopted by many police forces with success. If your criticizing grappling more generally then you should know the judo and aikido you praise are technically considered grappling arts. I don’t know about Muay Thai’s specific style but knees are useful when dealing with close opponents.

boxing and wrestling are all you need really

>>255995
>also you could do enough damage without needing control if you finger someone just right
speaking from traumatic experience?