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Richard's moment was cut too short this episode.
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>>286416073
That fight should continue next episode as he starts slinging Excaliburs while defending the church.
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>>286416124
Gil will cum in his armor if he hears Excalibur
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Fuck Astolfo
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>>286416073
This was merely part 1 of their fight.
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People are counting out the Emiya Shirou of FSF too early.
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Gil humiliation soon...
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>>286416186
Who are his love interests
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>>286416186
https://youtu.be/lZcQZTOeSLc?si=DDq_tFAxTCHtQdC1
Emiya (america)
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>>286416225
Justice
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So what's the deal with Jack Strange Fake having movie NP names? Narita just likes them?
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>>286416285
Maybe those movie names were actually references to real life and not the other way around
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>movie
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>>286416285
From Hell is Jack's famous letter. Can't justify Natural Born Killers though.
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>>286416388
I think NBK is reference on humans just being retarded killers in general
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Yeah when I read the novel, Richard's fight with Gil made him seem super strong, like better than most of the Round Table knights and Paladins since he was easily handling GoB which most Servants can't do. Sure hope he gets to display more next episode.
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>>286416453
King's are higher tier than knights
In general none of the KotR are generally beating a King type servant such as Richard or Charlemange. In Fate lore King always has to be the strongest in the kingdom for some reason.
>But gawain is super powerful
On paper you wouldn't think gawain loses to Nero, and yet he does every single time.
Because she's an emperor
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Where did rider fuck off to?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nyaV4WFddM
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>>286416628
It's off camera, but she's en route now that Alcides has appeared again.
After this battle all happens she attacks him and gets one good punch in, but he shrugs her off and escapes.
Hippolyta is filler.
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>>286416584
>On paper you wouldn't think gawain loses to Nero, and yet he does every single time.
>Because she's an emperor
Nero is maybe one of the worst examples to use, when she is maybe the least deserving "powerful" Servant that gets attention. She is also a magnet for awful writing outside of the original 2 Extra games.
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Anyone made a timeline for what events happen what day yet? I think a lot of people would be surprised when its laid out
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>>286416584
Nero needed to turn off the sun to win in Extra
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>>286416073
I've barely started the fight and Richard is already so cool. He's seriously shaping up to be one of my favorite servants.
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>>286416584
It's the other way around. Charlie's NP makes it clear knights on average would beat a king in a head to head confrontation because knights are fighters while kings are not.
Lancelot or Sun Gawain for instance would thrash Richard around the pavement since they can do so to Artoria.
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>>286416320
>>286416412
Natural Born Killers is a Tarantino movie about murderers
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>The golden Heroic Spirit probably far outclassed him. The strength of his Spirit Origin rivaled that of the beautiful Lancer Richard had met in the forest. He could tell at a glance that he had no chance of winning if they fought head-on. And then there was the grotesque bowman with demon’s horns sprouting from his head, with whom he had conversed earlier. He could tell that this Heroic Spirit was likewise so powerful that he had no hope.
>Richard’s Spirit Origin tensed and insistently warned him of danger. The alarm came from the fragments who were not quite Heroic Spirits and who accompanied Richard due to his
Noble Phantasm.
>“Do you want to die for nothing? Retreat before it’s too late,” Locksley the assassin, Pierre the bowman, and the other fragments of Spirit Origins continued to cool-headedly sound the
alarm. He could also sense the Spirit Origins of an indifferent-seeming swordsman and a mage who merely smiled faintly, but Saber himself was focused on the overwhelmingly mighty opponents
standing before him, his eyes shining.
>“My heart gave me permission. I doubt I could ever look down on you, but I take you for a storied Heroic Spirit worth looking up at. A king, judging by your manner. It’s not every day I
meet someone who merits respect just by standing there. I know my place, and so I give thanks that I was able to be here today.”
>“Mongrel. Do you intend to appraise me with such eyes? I have no need of thanks—I have not permitted you anything.”
>The golden-armored Heroic Spirit spoke dispassionately, without changing his expression.
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>>286416584
Oh I see.
Then random japenese highschooler > King of Kings/Half god.
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>>286416854
neither has ever beaten artoria thoughever
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>>286417043
AI slop
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>>286417046
fuck off sharteen
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>>286417050
he's been spamming his shit in every single thread since the show started
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>>286417040
>“Be gone at once.”
>At that, the space behind the Heroic Spirit distorted and countless weapons emerged from holes in the air. When they moved, it was with the intent to kill Saber, who opened his eyes wide in astonishment.
>Like arrows loosed from drawn bows, numerous weapons shrouded in magical energy on par with Noble Phantasms fired at the spot where Saber stood.
>Sigma must have sensed the danger in advance, because he had already retreated to an alleyway by the church.
>Saber, left to stand alone, hesitated for a moment, but then spoke as if he had made sense of the situation.
>“When you said, ‘be gone,’ you meant from this world!”
>He drew his own sword with a cheerful grin.
>“Ha ha! What droll fellow!”

>It was a dull-bladed ornamental sword that had adorned the walls of the mansion in the wetlands that Sigma had made his base of operations. But as far as Saber was concerned, having a grip was enough to make it a fine weapon.
>The sword flashed for an instant and began swatting the weapons launched from behind the golden Heroic Spirit out of the air.
>Even so, it was only able to strike down a few of them—a drop in the bucket compared to the dozens of Noble Phantasms raining down.
>The golden Heroic Spirit was apparently convinced that that would suffice and had already turned his attention back to the monstrous Archer. That demonic-looking Archer, however, turned to look at Richard. His expression was indiscernible behind the strange cloth that covered his face. Richard’s instincts as a Heroic Spirit immediately alerted him that he was being evaluated for some unclear purpose, but he had no time to consider the point. In less than a second, the countless weapons were nearly upon him.
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>>286416186
He gets better from being crumpled?
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>>286417148
Shirou always comes back
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>>286416186
He will become a hero of justice
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>lets kill the vampire before he hits the grail
church
richard
Hassan
sigma
Dumas and The Police
Prelati
Jack
CIA


>Pale rider is gonna turn the entire world in its playground for tsubaki
CIA
Enkidu
Gilgamesh
Jack the reaper
Dumas and the Police
Alcides

>If the italian mafia wins the hitman will destroy the whole USA
CIA
Gilgamesh
hippolyta
Dumas and the Police
Huwawa
Ishtar

>If Huwawa and the borzark mafia family wins they will erase the magic of the world
Enkidu
Heracles
Richard
Hassan
Sigma
Dumas and the Police

>Im here to kill Gilgamesh
Ishtar
Huwawa
Enkidu
Alcides
Richard

>ACAB
Gilgamesh
Hippolyta
Richard
Alcides
Jester
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CLOWNcides
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>>286416174
conceptual weakness
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>>286416628
Did you see the opening she riding around the airport? Thats what is happening right now
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kek
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>>286416682
GO TAKE SOME COVER!!
KUTCHYAGATTOBREAKATAFEVERFRAKUTYAGAT JUST A COPYCAT FURAKUSHURAKUSHUSHIKAKURIRAKO DUCK AND COVER!!
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Jester status?
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>>286417230
>Jester when he finds out his Assassin did a mana transfer without him.
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>>286417241
kek
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>>286417043
I'm secondary animeonly, why the freak are there two different Jacks?
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>>286417299
No one knows who Jack really was, SF Jack is all possibilities mashed into a single servant and Apo Jack is one of these possibilities.
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I really like the way Alcides and Gil speak in Japanese
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What does bro think he's going to do against Heracles...
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>>286417245
NTR >>286417230
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>>286417299
why is this question asked every thread?
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>>286417380
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JOHN!
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>>286417277
getting cucked by a legal shota is crazy work
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>>286417380
>bro
That's Mister John Strange Fake WINGAWD for you.
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>>286417397
He's fine
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>>286417050
Ridiculous assertion. No hallmarks. You fail as an investigator.
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>>286417397
shouldn't his head have fallen off? it's like the back of his head has attached itself to his torso - that neck's not doing anything
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>>286416073
Every Richard moment is too short, cut or otherwise. He should have his own show, at least 3 seasons.
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>>286417395
There's a lot of people on earth nowadays who are so stuck in their heads they let their thoughts distract them from what's happening on the screen, or maybe they just forgot episode 0.
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>>286417427
It's twisted right round and shattered to splinters but still attached.
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>>286417397
He got back up and pwnd him
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>>286417435
We hate Richard and ayaka around here

>Dude, le battle schizo with heart of gold
Garbage trope
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another great ep this week
god i love being a fatefag
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>>286417397
It's just a flesh wound.
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>>286417435
>Richard's very own garden of avalon
would be kino.
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>>286417486
Actually we love Richard here.
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>>286417460
should probably be hanging by a thread near his chest, because otherwise his neck has been stretched to 2x its length and gone fully stiff in order for his head to be where it is
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>>286417397
Did anyone else laugh when the entire clan called out john's name in unison
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>>286417486
Richard website
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>>286417435
>He should have his own show, at least 3 seasons.
Agreed. He's so fucking cool.
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meh, it's no Fate/Zero
it's cool and all, but characters feel overpowered, attacks have no weight to it, it just tries to be a spectatle all the time, F0 was more real, visceral, you got engaged to the characters, it seems the only interesting one is Sigma
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>>286417538
>it seems the only interesting one is Sigma
It was almost believable bait until this part
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>>286417538
I'm trans if that matters
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Hercules voice actor is so disappointingly shit bruh he only knows how to speak in monotone
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Lotta people don't realize, Fate is all a battle of concepts. Can Jack the Ripper beat Heracles, maybe if you can bullshit his concept to be bigger than Heracles temporarily. By turning Jack into not just a person that killed a few women, but the archetype of serial killers, the murderer lying in the darkness, a literal demon, how high can you bullshit a concept. Once they become a servant they are no longer a flesh and blood person; it is not a fight between the still living human heracles and the still living human jack, no they have become concepts entirely. And concepts are something you can bullshit, they are things you can twist.
Alcidies himself being twisted into a grail altered monster is also proof of this.

Both servants come at each other with the strength of their story, the strength of their rank, their skill, their concepts, their conceptual advantages, their conceptual disadvantages, and see which concept is greater.
Jack gave it a good shot using From hell and Natural born Killers together to become an army of 500 demons. Unfortunately the anime kinda cut the part where he was actually dealing a bit of damage to Heracles.
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>>286416073
Why is Alcides hated so much? I don't particularly mind him but everywhere I look I see people having him. What makes him so offensive/badly written to Fate fans?
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>>286417503
Same, it was unintentionally hilarious
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>>286417538
>ackshually woobly hands vs seiba was peak
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>Richard lies to Gil about becoming friends with Enkidu
>Gil now thinks Enkidu is cheating on him
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>>286417570
It's just one guy
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>>286417583
Gil is so fucking hot in this anime god damn
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>>286417498
human neck can do funky things trust me
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>Gil spams swords
>Everyone shrugs it off like it's nothing
>Repeat to infinity
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>>286417566
Bro the character is shit, it's very fitting he hides his face to never express himself. Proper Herakles is already pretty boring, making him a retarded avenger obsessed with gods in the current year is just sad.
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Jester….
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>>286417596
fantastic shots all around.
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Gilgamesh will kill pale rider.
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>>286417570
I think he's boring mostly
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>>286417611
A good acting performance can elevate a character
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>>286417614
brings a bad memory from years ago when my friend hyped up cloverfield and the we watched a pirated copy and it was boring shit
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>Alcides spams arrows
>Everyone shrugs it off like it's nothing
>Repeat to infinity
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>>286417570
A combination of being a non character, bullshitting every fight he's in with deus ex machina and "Yeah I was hit in my conceptual weakness perfectly by the worst weapon possible, but sorry it did zero damage, fuck you. I don't even have a reason why it did zero damage, clearly I was hit by it perfectly, I don't even have to bother giving a reason why it didn't work, who cares" before he flies off yet again. He's a character that exists as just bullshitting every situation he's in.
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>>286417617
I am eating so good
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>>286417606
Nasu once said that UBW would be useless against most Servant and to keep that being true he nerfed Gil's GoB spam into the ground.
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>>286417397
He tanked that!
...I hope.
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>>286417570
Boring character + people feel robbed of getting the real Archer Herc
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>>286417486
>We hate Richard and ayaka around here
It's literally just you forcing your boring meme
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>>286417611
rent free kek
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I dont dislike Alcides but his constant blabbing about gods is boring
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>>286417498
You werent here in the 00s and early 10s and it shows. Necks like that were an everyday sight on /b/
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>>286416073
very cute
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I heard Jack transforms into Apocrypha Jack at some point. Is that true or was I lied to? If so does that happen this season?
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>>286416073
>Jack confirmed better than a DAA, Tatari
OH NO NO NO VAMPIRE BROS, ONE OF OUR BEST IS INFERIOR TO A MID TIER SERVANT
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>>286417566
I expected him to sound more edgy/raging since he’s an avenger like he’s supposed to be twisted but he sounds chill for whatever reason.
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>>286417570
Edgelord and fraud
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>>286417397
>Bro really though he was Shirou
Lmao. Reminder this is what would have happened to Shirou as well if not for Avalon.
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>>286417687
I WANT to see real Herakles in fate do super cool shit and act in line with his legend, even if he just isn't all that interesting of a character. But for some reason that's just not allowed in fate. Instead we get this dull mortal manlet with a paper bag over his head sperging out about gods while Ishtar does dumb shit 100ft from him.
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>jack got btfo
Is Jack that weak or is Alcides just that strong? Feels like a waste of Flat's talent if he has such a shitty servant
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>>286417789
herc cheated
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>>286417745
The reason is bad acting. It's noticeable when the animation is him clenching his fist etc, the music and sfx is dramatic so clearly that's the director's intention but the acting is just flat af
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>>286417789
If jack has a m9 with one bullet then herc has desert eagle with 10 bullets

Summary. Herc has cheats
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>>286416073
This jack would have beaten Alcides btw
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>>286417789
Jack is only as good as he is right now because Flat is a really good master.
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>>286417861
that jack fought him
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>>286417723
It happens but they skipped it in the anime
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>>286417723
They cut it. In the LN when they are discussing the plan for the hospital Jack transforms into loli Jack to pretend to be the little girl and says he feels that is his most natural form. But Flat tells him to change back because he doesn't want to be arrested for walking around with a loli in a thong.
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>>286417789
Jack is like an A+ rank servant in this situation

Alcidies is an EXX rank servant

Jack was actually amazingly strong here, everyone in the novel was jacking off how incredible this was, but Alcidies just has the power to no diff people
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>>286416186
He’s dead, guy tried though
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Why does losing his Divinity and getting filled with hot Angry Mango loads make Herc get ten trillion overpowered NPs?
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>>286416453
i dont understand how you could possibly think that. they start off by saying that he's nothing special, just fast. gilgamesh says he was testing him and could have ended it asap otherwise.

richard hasnt done anything spectacular at any point in the story thus far
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>>286417925
He traded godhand for Twelve glories, which is much stronger, but it requires like 100x as much mana as godhand ever did, and is impossible to upkeep for any normal master

Bazdilot is doping with grail mud and sacrifice crystals
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>>286416584
Lol
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>>286416682
This ghetto song has somewhat grown on me. Overall I think sF might end up being my favorite Fate spin-off adaptation even though its still imperfect. Praise be to Narita.
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>>286417789
>Is jack just weak
you notice he killed Cereberus in one hit, when he was just a single demon
Then the camera pans out to show Jack had become 500 demons
All of them much stronger than Cerberus

Alcidies has the strongest plot armor at the moment.
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>>286417861
Based
#Not my jack
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>>286418053
Cerberus is specifically a fodder though under those circumstances. Servants in FGO one-shot those.
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>>286418053
So why does Jack get to become 500 demons?
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>>286418125
because of the density of humans in a metropolis
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>>286418125
Combination of Natural Born Killers and From Hell
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>>286417538
Wait, I remember reading this exact same post in another thread...
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>>286417971
I bet there’s a second battery magia location. It’s stupid to believe he would have it all in one location.
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I think the Einzbern weren't very smart when they decided to transform Heracles into an unga bunga caveman with a stick
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>>286418125
>jack has no "main body", Jack can become an entire crowd of people, with all of them being his main body, he exists as all of them
>This is based on the legend that Jack was a group of people working together
>Jack can manifest as dozens of people at once, hundreds even. All of them are the real Jack.
>From hell allows him to become a demon
>When used together he can become a horde of demons
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>alcides is as strong as a divine spirit
while this is obvious, was this said in the LN? I dont remember this lien
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>>286418152
>In an urban area it displays power equivalent to that of a martial Servant
That's... not very impressive
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>>286418198
It is when we're talking about someone who, in reality, would have just been a mundane guy killing prostitutes for a sick thrill. The fact that his legend can elevate him to level of warriors that can face armies on their own is a testament to his fame.
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>>286416073
>次なる宝具の輝きは三十二を数えた。今度ばかりはライダーまでもが押し黙った。十六宝具の連撃を、ついに凌いでのけたバーサーカーであったが、まさかそれに倍する攻撃までもが繰り出されようとは思うまい。それを言うなら他のサーヴァントたちとて 同様だった。もはや黄金のアーチャーの潜在力は、誰にも見積もることなど出来ない域にあった。
>The next glow of Noble Phantasms counted thirty-two. This time, even Rider fell silent. Berserker had finally manage to withstand the chained assault of sixteen Noble Phantasms, but he ("he" is Rider, that's why the last line says even he felt silent) certainly didn't expect an attack twice as powerful to be unleashed. The same was true of the other Servants. By now, the latent power of the golden Archer had reached a realm no one could possibly measure.
Gilbros... how do we argue against BerserkerlotCHADs now that our copium 32 NPs line was confirmed a mistranslation that never implied Lancelot would lose...? Meanwhile mats still confirm not only that Lancelot was the greatest threat of the 4th HGW but also confirm he would beat Gil and every other Servant that isn't Diarmuid during the 4th War...?
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>>286417723
There were more scenes of that happening in the ln but all of the more prominent ones got skipped over.
The only instance of Berserker Jack turning into loli Jack right now is from the scene where he activates From Hell
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>>286418270
Doesn't martial servant mean someone like Li Shuwen?
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>>286418187
To be fair the only danger was Gil who was believed to be somewhere else. So they only had assassin to deal with as a real master. Everyone else was a rookie, a teen or killed by their servant.
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>>286418323
No, "martial" just refers to servants whose primary skill lies in combat.
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>>286418323
Martial servant is like three knight classes
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>>286417731
TATARI is still better because his replicas are actually pretty accurate to the original in power
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>>286418324
I mean, they summoned Berserker way beforehand so they had no idea who the participants were gonna be
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>>286417077
He's been spamming his shit for years in /vg/
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>>286417731
Jack is a high tier servant though??
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>>286418187
They had to. Sane Heracles would have slaughtered them all within the first 10 minutes of him being summoned. He loves children.
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>>286418446
Was that a woman on second left?
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Why does Hansa have a harem of sluts? Is he not a believer of the faith
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>>286418446
Don't trust soldiers
>>286418490
They're all God's sluts
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>>286418446
Apo Jack is ASSassin
Fourth from right feels like an Archer
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>>286417570
>>286417623
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>>286417681
>>286417769
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Are kettlebells enough to achieve alcides' build?
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>>286418469
Looks like a stand-in for a high society woman, yes.
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>Jack turns into 500 demons
Who the fuck could even beat him in FSN?
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>>286418469
only women wore that kind of hat
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>>286418566
Rider? Would her eyes work?
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See you guys in a month once I finish watching everything and I'm ready to participate in Fate threads
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If Alcides is nerfed, corrupted archer Heracles, would anyone have had a shot at beating the real thing?
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>>286418566
Number depends on his Master's Mana
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>>286418614
Missing Emiya Gohan
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>>286418614
You can safely delete the Ilya slop
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>>286418615
Alcides isnt nerfed to begin with. Read the novels and stop parroting what some herkfag told you
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>>286418566
Gilgamesh
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Are the novels difficult to read in nip?
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>>286418566
>Media has time stop and partial divinity
>Cu has partial divinity
>Gil is divine
>Herc is Divine
>Rider non-human
Honestly the only servants From Hell even reliably work on are Saber and Hasan and they might just get out of it with fate alteration.
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>>286418614
>not using double digit numbering from 01-10
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>>286418614
Your order is disgusting. Zero should be last, and where is the deen anime? There's no substitute if you are not reading the VN. And Prillya heavily references HA.
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>>286418668
Should not be.
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>>286418614
bro your case files?
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Flat is the strongest.
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I wanted the shota to die tbqh but now I see him as literally me and I want to be raped by assassin
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>>286418729
It's good, but especially so after you watched enough of other materials.
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>>286418691
I found DRRR tricky a few months back so I figured it might be Narita's style thats too much for me. Thanks though
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>>286418686
>where is the deen anime? There's no substitute
Are we really gonna pretend ufotable didn't intend to replace the fate route with Fate Zero
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>>286418668
Which level are you
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Unpopular opinion:
King order offers variety and is actual representation of Herc legend.
God hand is shit and should only be limited to Berserker class.
King Order should be default for all other classes, but no class can use all 12 powers. Instead they can only use labors associated with them.
For example, Herc uses bows and arrows in 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th labor, so his Archer version got NP corresponding to them.
Herc as Rider can ride whatever creature he captured alive, so he got stuffs from 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 10th and 12th labor.
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Is next ep where Ishtar turns off Gil's GoB?
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Why is Gil such a jobber?
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>>286418813
Vs Police and Flat first.
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That first cop who mag dumped and got chomped by Cerberus wasn't even a Jack clone, he was just some officer who saw a large dog and couldn't help himself.
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>>286418614
You won't be ready unless you read the visual novel.
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>>286418797
n3
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Gilgamesh=Goku
Herc=Vegeta
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>>286418859
99% of the fandom isn't ready and they're enjoying themselves.
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>>286418845
He cross trained in the ATF, instincts took over.
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>>286418884
He didn't say anything about enjoying himself, he said 'participate in fate threads'. If you haven't read F/SN's visual novel then you don't know shit and will constantly misunderstand basic things about the setting, because literally EVERYTHING assumes basic familiarity with F/SN. They never bother to fully explain stuff that only gets explained in the novel.
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>>286417397
>I-I'm the main character
>I'm m-morally r-right so I wi-ACK
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>>286417861
this is the real jack
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>>286418806
Both god hand and the berserker class are jobber traits in fate. They don't do anything useful. Herc's best skill is nine lives, which is locked as a berserker. He probably makes best use of nine lives as a saber, but a regular archer is the best fit for a grail war. He could snipe people across the city with the hydra bow. Like pic related but rapid fire and not a shitter. Archer would also give him the most freedom to approach every battle however he wants, like he did in his trials.
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Will John get any pussy after this?
Surely there must be some female officers who like him, right?
Shiro did the same retarded thing and he got Seibah.
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>>286418920
>participate in fate threads
I AM SO EXCITED TO ARGUE WHO IS STRONGER!
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>>286418958
This literally did nothing to Herc btw
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>>286418976
yeah but can they beat goku
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>>286418959
except for Vera who is fucking Orlando, John fucks all the female officers
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>When he hears Enkidu made a new friend
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>>286418976
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>>286418187
I mean the only servant who could actually best him wasn't legitimately summoned for the 5th war
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>>286418566
Artoria with full energy (Excalibur hits them all). Gilgamesh (Enuma Elish hits them all if deemed worthy, otherwise it will take awhile to kill them all with Gate of Babylon but not impossible). Heracles (God Hand will become resilient to demonic claws and eye beams, they might get between 4 to 8 kills but I can't imagine more than that with all their strength).
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>>286418614
>missing the main show
>5 seasons and a movie of pedophilia instead
as expected of /a/
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>>286417397
>Shirou when doesn’t have plot armor
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>>286419018
Well, he still died in Fate and Heaven's Feel too
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>>286419022
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>>286418670
From Hell doesn't actually care if you're human or not, that was just Jack posturing about his own nature, not his noble phantasm. It's not a conceptual weapon, it sends his martial power through the roof.
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>>286418990
I know, because EMIYA is a shitter. Oonga boonga berserker stood still to tank it and show off god hand to pretend that it matters, but any other version of Herc would just take 2 steps to the right.
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>>286418990
Wrong, the anime changed it to killing him once.
It was in the VN where he had to block it. But in the anime he was too stiff due to reviving from Saber killing him so he did not react in time.
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>>286418566
>turns into 500 lolis hungry for sex
SASUGA
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>>286418959
They got the ick seeing that
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>>286419023
Illya kino only has 4 seasons though
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>>286419020
>You can just pick them off one by one
He can actually just keep infinitely cloning himself unless you kill all clones at the same time.

That's the entire point of showing you the cop scene earlier; Jack kept appearing and shooting Cerberus as Cerberus kept eating the cops, Jack was literally feeding himself to Cerberus, Jack didn't care he was being eaten at all since his clones being killed can't actually damage him seriously. Whenever the number goes down he just makes more.
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>>286418566
It really depends on the master pairing. He can only create so many bodies because Flat is an excellent master. The population density of the area they're batting in is also ideal for propelling Jack's strength through the roof. Still, those with anti-army Noble Phantasms are suited to taking him on.
Saber, Lancer, Rider, Berserker, and Gilgamesh should be able to combat him fairly well. Caster's temple might also hinder Jack's ability to operate at full potential, and it's remote enough that he might not get a substantial increase in power since it checks an area of 5 km for living humans.
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>>286419116
Flat will run out of magical energy before Gilgamesh does.
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>>286419127
>Flat will easily run out of mana
I dunno
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>can't wait to talk about the anime
>power level fagging
why do I even bother
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>>286419033
super ultra nerf in Heaven's Feel.
Fate has O muh caliburn which would have killed any servants desu
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>>286419141
Thia has no physical presence until Flat dies. Flat is a human, despite appearances. He is unbelievably efficient, he can stretch the mana a mile to keep a fight going, but he is not a bottomless well of magical energy.
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>>286417776
This.
John is pretty much shirou without plot armor.
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>>286419151
What do you want to talk about, anon?
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I felt the aura in my dick when Jack used From Hell
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>>286419151
>Alcides and Gil episode
>expect no powerlevelfagging
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>>286419160
All of that exists perfectly within flat, all those abilities, Flat just doesn't consciously activate it most of the time. Fact that he can already turn Jack into a horde of demons without it effecting him already shows his mana is basically limitless.
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>>286419059
No it didn't? The anime added Saber killing him once to show off God Hand (because otherwise there'd be no other moment to explain it until the Gilgamesh fight). But that was it. They never showed him dying or reviving from the Caladbolg attack
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>>286419189
Wrong. Flat is described as a diagram while Thia is a working engine.
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WAIT

did alciles stole both From hell and natural born killers or just From hell
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>>286419190
Because it was hidden by the explosion. It was in Nasu's FAQ, anon.
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>>286419207
>It was in Nasu's FAQ
Ohh, how foolish of me, how could I forget Nasu's FAQ
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>>286419204
Only From Hell to gain an aspect of Demon.
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Give me more children and cheats or I leave
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assassin will fuck the child soldier right?
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>>286419151
It was a great episode. Which parts did you like/dislike?
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>>286419287
Jack is the best.
Gil/Richard is good, but did they really need to cut into Jack and Alcides' fights?
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It would be fair to say that Jack being summoned as a berserker is far stronger and easier to deal with as a servant than being summoned as an assassin?
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kek, this disgusted face.
fsf needs more memes. that's what made zero stand out here
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>>286419385
As an amateur with no magic experience I'd prefer Assassin Jack. She can regain mana by her own and it'd be easier for me to perform mana transfer rituals with her than with Berserker Jack. I'm taking this decision purely from a strategic point of view, objectively speaking
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Zealot-chan is kind of a schizo but honestly, I've really warmed up to her. I hope we see her pigtails soon
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>>286419428
>character makes a normal face
>CoUlD tHiS bE tHe StArT oF aN ePiC nEw MeMe!?
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>>286419492
touch grass
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>>286419502
I touched both your mom and dad's grass last night
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>>286418958
Ok but how did EMIYA with no mana for days manage to almost solo Herc with jobber swords?
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>>286417570
Retards want Disney garbage, they literally want this to be like Kingdom Hearts.
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>>286419457
Berserker Jack could turn into loli Assassin Jack and create multiple clones of her if you wanted.
Only downside is that he wouldn't be acting as cute like the real deal.
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>>286419527
When did that happen? Wasn't he receiving mana from Rin normally in Fate?
Also, reminder that canonically Sasaki Kojiro made Berserker retreat when he tried entering the Ryuudou Temple
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>>286419585
>Also, reminder that canonically Sasaki Kojiro made Berserker retreat when he tried entering the Ryuudou Temple
Thank to Medea debuff btw. Otherwise, Sasaki would have been fucked.
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>>286419527
>almost
6 lives, just half
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>>286419583
Hearing a deep man voice when I'm fucking my cute loli assassin would be kind of a deal breaker for sure
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wonder what the overlap is from /a/ and the fgo general
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>>286419527
>no mana for days
He was receiving mana from Rin. By the time he fought Berserker, he was fully healed from Saber's sword.
>jobber swords
He didn't used Jobber swords.
He used 6 A rank Noble Phantasm to kill Herc.

EMIYA being an archer isn't that really impressive when you have wanker who can shoot 20km away.
He is better off in close-quarter combat with le batman experience.
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>>286419609
did you forget about whispers of dawn?
jack changed his voice when he was in a female form
or even this episode
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>>286419457
But berserker Jack can turn into her. And Sydney Sweeney
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Buy sigma coin
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>>286418106
One-shot those if powered by a caster, and to begin with FGO enemy strenght isn't to scale. Only serves to give an idea. There has been many instances of FGO saying "this new jobber monster is as strong as a servant...and there's 100 of it!!!" and then your servants no diff them.
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>>286419585
>>286419642
I might've confused routes. Its been a while.

>He is better off in close-quarter combat with le batman experience.
May be so, but still not a meelee fighter. It was just to show how Berserk and God Hand are kinda weak if even an Archer going meelee with downgraded NPs can fuck him up
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>>286419637
I just come here to see the reactions laugh at seeing similar posts from years ago then go back to waiting for an update
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>>286419722
>if even an Archer going meelee with downgraded NPs can fuck him up
An Archer that specialize in Melee combat, so not a regular archer.
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>I’M A HERO OF JUSTI- ACK
You can see his neck getting broken.
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>>286419754
*record scratch* *freeze frame*
>Yeah, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here.
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>>286418106
Cerberus isn't fodder, it's the son of Typhon and a monster so strong that it was made the guardian of the underworld because it was basically considered unbeatable
Which is why Heracles had to do it as his final labor since it was the most utterly impossible, and required Hades basically approving it
The king of Cyprus didn't think it was possible

Nasu doesn't tend to understand western myths and fodderizes literally everything in them
But the Cerberus in LB5 are specifically mass produced copies that are heavily degraded
They basically had Echidna shitting out monsters constantly and the monsters were minmaxed towards quantity
When you have Orion fighting two Cerberus you should realize they've been fodderized and greatly weakened, even regular Olympic soldiers were stronger
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>>286419754
>heh im morally superior im sure to win
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>>286419385
Outside of FGO

Jack will automatically kill you upon being summoned if youre a male
Apocrypha shows
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>>286419223
Yep.

>Q: Berserker took no damage from Archer's A-rank Noble Phantasm "Broken Phantasm" (Caladbolg), is it ineffective due to Berserk's Noble Phantasm, or was he simply able to withstand it naturally? <Not Mr. Shanoa>

>Nasu: Oh, that. In the original work it was like "Even though up until then none of the attacks had been worth dodging, this one would have been fatal, so Berserker counters the resulting explosion from the Noble Phantasm is devastating." Yet in the anime version it was handled as "Berserker could not respond to it due to a severe injury from Saber losing one of his lives, and regenerates," which may be something to think about. In all he lost 2 lives because of it.
>Takeuchi: Oh, so that's why God Hand in the anime version needed 3 days to recover!
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>>286419830
Wasn't her original master gonna sacrifice a random prostitute for her summoning. Maybe it was that what triggered her rather than him being a guy
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>>286419527
Shirou is a faggot with plot armor
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>>286419492
>normal face
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>see red head cutie servant once
>never see her again
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>>286419024
>>286419878
Maybe if you had read the VN you'd know about all the times Shirou gets brutally murdered because you made a slightly wrong decision
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>>286418997
he's so jealous kek
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>>286417662

I love how he's had the same voice actor forever.

Shit is VERY cash!
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>>286419889
she is on her way right now actually (off screen)
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>>286419814
Orion is a beast hunter servant and also so strong he may as well be a grand archer what are you smoking. Him beating two Cerberus at once doesn't say much
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Cu could knock up Bazette
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>>286419814
>Cerberus isn't fodder, it's the son of Typhon and a monster so strong that it was made the guardian of the underworld because it was basically considered unbeatable
And as Alcides complained about, it only displays that power when Hades gives the thumbs up.
As he is now, Hades is disapproving, wherever he is, and so Cerberus fell from Divine Beast (endgame boss) category to Monstrous Beast (fodder).
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>>286419867
yes, that's what happened
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did anyone save the Jets cosplay gif from the previous thread? i was on my phone at the time and forgot to save it
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>>286419988
The worst part is that even as fodder, Clan Galatine is still scared shitless of it. Bunch of useless bums who think ghosts and stuff are strong when they are the lowest of the lowest.
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I WANNA FUCK HER
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>>286419867
>>286420033
>offer a prostitute as a sacrifice to the serial killer known to have killed prostitutes
>you summon an amalgamation of those prostitues pretending to be Jack the Ripper instead and get killed
How was he supposed to know?
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Does the title sound extremely fucking stupid if you translate it to your native language?
>ESL
Thank God I'm not an *nglo
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>>286420242
Native english speaker don't need to learn another language...people like yourself on the other hand.
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>>286419932
That horse looks like it has some wild boar genes in it
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>>286420242
well it's certainly strange and maybe a little fake
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>>286417570
>Supposed to be weakened and about to die after Jack's NP
>OOOPS I GRAB YOU WITH ONE HAND AND NOW YOU'RE STUNNED. I TAKE YOUR NP TEEHEE

What a bullshit fight.
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>>286417570
Honestly kinda surprised about the reception when it comes to him being "I HATE GODS" when all avengers are edgelords.
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>multiple servants using their NPs on me? no problem
>an army of NP wielding guys? no problem
>gang raped by demons? didn't even hurt
he breaks everything about Fate battles and power scaling. Even Gilgamesh, as strong as he is, has weaknesses and can be pressed by other servants like Lancelot. Divinity or no, Alcides is just bullshit.
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Wait can Gil fly? He's just been floating in the air this entire episode.
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>it took 9 episodes to someone to die
this is going to be like 4 seasons isnt it?
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>>286420517
>die
Guys... who's gonna tell him...
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>>286420242
Destino raro falso? El faso raro destino?
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>>286419963
No its, literally impossible
Cerberus was supposed to be so strong that it was supposed to be even impossible for Heracles in his legend, he did it anyway because he's Heracles, the ultimate hero. Other heroes could not have done what he did, not even Orion. It was a beast so strong that Hades considered it worthy of guarding the entire underworld. Some heroes may have gotten past it before, but using cunning, only Heracles can get past it using brawn.

>>286419988
Its a half assed justification; it didn't have power in its story because of Hades, it had its power because its own innate ability as a monster. And its because of its power as a monster that Hades chose it as his guard dog to begin with. With that logic he may as well have chosen anything to guard the underworld and given it his blessing, since that's where 99% of its power comes from now.
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john will be reborn as a Hero. A Hero to save the world...
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Is this guy and his team just meant to job the entire series?
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>>286420517
You cant kill the 3 musketeers
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>>286420582
They're the underdogs, if you've read literally any fate story you know the underdogs are the strongest in the end
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>>286420645
>>286420582
It took the whole clan to barely go toe to toe with Assassin, them being underdog is an understatement. Would've already been wiped out if not for the priest
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>>286420689
Tell me you haven't actually read the story without telling me you haven't read it.
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>>286420547
the tale wags the dog because of the metafiction aspect. Herakles defeating Keroberos is a bigger deal than him defeating the Nimean Lion specifically because Keroberos was the guardian of Hades. Meaning an 'unemployed' Keroberos, reflexively, is worth less glory and thus is weaker. These beings are living stories made of tropes and narrativium
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>>286420699
Anon this is an anime thread while the anime is airing on an anime board. Notice how the OP image isn't a wall of text but instead a screenshot of the anime? Yeah
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>>286417397
AND THEN JOHN WAS A ZOMBIE
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>>286420517
Dumas wrote the 3 musketeers with them being invencible in mind

Just sit down and watch his masterpiece in progress
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How come Alejandro Dumas is a "heroic" spirit anyway? He is not from ancient times or made insane scientific breakthroughs; he just wrote novels.
What's next, summon Kefka and he will turn people into roaches by calling them wagies?
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>>286420749
>Kefka
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>>286420749
With how Fate works Gregor Samsa is probably a real wereroach.
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>>286420720
Maybe watch the story then
Story tells you that they were at their weakest when they fought assassin, but it was a necessary fight for them since they needed a weak enemy for them to acclimate to their NPs. The more they use their NPs and put themselves into life and death battles, the more each of them will acclimate to their NPs and become stronger. Jester puts a stop to the fight because her surmises that 70% of them will die fighting asssassin, but the 30% remaining will becoming servant tier and take her down, because they will have fully melded with their NPs. He decides to take over instead to save Assassin from losing, and because the NPs won't work against him due to compatibility, vampires are strong against NP.
When they fight, whenever they do anything, they are creating a "story". Their NPs are not fully baked yet, nor are their abilities. For them to reach completion they need to get involved with them as much as possible and face life and death situations. The more situations the cops get into the more they can create legends for themselves, and the more they will get used to their NP.
Durmas sees the cops story as a work in progress, its not done yet. He's still writing all of them. They need to awaken their NPs.
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Explain to me how this wouldn't defeat Gilgamesh and Heracles instantly
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>>286420749
Novelists who create works that are themselves deemed legendary get into the throne.
William Shakespeare, Hans Christian Andersen, Murasaki Shikibu, and Dante Alighieri are all heroes too. I have no doubt Homer and Aesop fit the mold just fine.
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>>286420749
>hah impressive NP Kafka
>you almost got me franz
>however you understimated by ultimate Wizard trick
I AM VIRGIN AND UNEMPLOYED
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>>286420811
>instantly
Definitely not instantly.
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>>286420811
>Pulls out NP that neutralizes poison
You have no idea how Gilgamesh works

He has EVERYTHING in the vault, all he has to do is pull it out
The only way to beat him is stopping him from being able to pull it out.
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>>286420811
Heracles would revive with poison resistance, so, good job, you got him once, maybe twice.
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>>286420749
>kafkaesque
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>>286420816
Homer and Aesop weren't individuals, so it would end up being another Kojirou situation
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>>286420860
King Arthur wasn't an individual either.
Fate can take it any way the author pleases. A whole person who just faded into myth and rumor, a group of people sharing a name, a phantom spirit without stable identity, any option is valid.
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>>286420836
Bro, just use 12 different types of poison in a single attack. Or a poison so powerful that you take 12 lives at once. Those things drop like crazy at any minor inconvenience
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>>286420816
Does that mean there is a JK rowling Servant?
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>>286420905
there's a Terry Pratchett servant
I miss him so much...
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>>286420901
>in Fate
Herc become immune to the CONCEPT of POISON.
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Naah king Arthur was real and pretty chill when I met them.
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>>286420816
>summon Pushkin
>have to use CS to stop him from throwing hands with other servants
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>tsubaki's parents uses bacteria magecraft
How is that even a thing? Bacteria is discovered through science, not mystery. Sure, we don't know everything about bacteria, but the existence of it, or rather the knowledge of its existence is a product of science. It should therefore be antithetical to have something like "bacteria magecraft"
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>>286420917
We have already seen that more than one life can be deleted at once with the same attack if it's strong enough. We just poison him with a super cocktail mix
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>>286420916
what does his meteorite sword noble phantasm do? open L-space?
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>>286420816
>accidentally summon George RR Martin
>have to expend all my command seals only to get him to do anything thats not eating
>tells me he will fight next year bro
>miss war
>only get drafts with descriptions of food and shittings
>t-thanks holy grail
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>>286420923
>got idea from Matou's bugs
>look for even smaller bugs
Also, saying bacteria is products of science so it can't be used in magecraft is a bit of reach.
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>>286417570
He killed Gilgameme low diff and it hurts his fans.
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>>286420923
The Kuruokas practice a discipline of symbiosis magecraft, working with any organism that can be implanted within the body. They were inspired by and practiced in mimicry of the Makiri wormcraft.
It was only these modern practitioners who discovered a strain of mysterious microorganisms (which are actually fungi, not bacteria) in the jungles of south america and decided "let's try it with this". The result was a brain dead daughter who is now a living goddess.
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Remember that time Apocrypha's author thought his story was so good it could be written and praised by Shakeaspere himself in-universe
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>>286420980
I like it a lot
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shakespeare could be fake too
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>>286420495
Why would Alcides be pressed by shit that's low tier? Losing his revival NP to a human is damn pathetic in itself.
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>>286420980
post proof nigga
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>>286420980
Hubris is required to make a good story
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could monte cristo man kill heracles
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>>286420508
He has a levitation NP since FSN.
He used it on Shinji in the UBW anime.
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>>286421029
No but all 3 of the musketeers could.
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>>286421029
Yes, definitely, that man is who you put your hopes on when all is over.
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>>286420816
Where's Dostoevsky?
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>>286421029
Like.. once. With Enfer Chateau d'If. After Herc gets used to that move, Dantes can't even hurt Heracles. STR too low, Mythologie rank too low.
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>>286421029
No
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Martin Luther servant when
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>>286420811
>>286420836
Gil has antidotes and Herk will die instantly.
Semiramis has Hydra Poison at the ready just in case Chiron went after her so she can just kill Herk the same way.
She also has EX-rank magic blasts anyway.
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>>286417861
>Literally made out of tens of thousands of Loli and Shota souls
Would dating jack count as having a harem?
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>>286420816
Now I'm imagining what Pynchon would be like as a servant
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>>286421029
Only once. If his flames were A ranked he could have instantly killed Herk by destroying his soul. But they are C ranked.
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>>286420905
She has a conceptual advantage against gender-bent characters
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IT'S YOUR TURN RICHARD
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>>286420916
>instally counters Artoria and Nero
>explodes when seeing astolfo
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post that one image
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>>286416073
Richy rules.
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Can Dumas summon the 3 musketeers and Dantes?
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>>286420905
I do wonder what stuff would JK Rowling gain access to as a servant.
Does she gets access to everything the mages in Harry Potter can do like the forbidden spells,would she be able to create horcruxes?
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>>286421114
that one image
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>>286421126
If Dante comes for Dumas, it's for his head.
>three Musketeers
He made them.
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>>286420916
no there isn't.
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>>286421126
Dantes will likely only come for Guda.
Unless there's some kind of emergency dooming the world.
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>>286421126
only if he plays shadoba
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>>286421114
genuinely fucked up that someone made this.
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>>286421138
d'Artagnan is a real guy and as a servant he probably could materialize the other 3.
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>>286421114
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>>286421145
Why is The Count Of Monte Cristo simping for some japanese random
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>>286421200
FGOtard is famously retarded.
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>>286421114
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>>286421114
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>>286421200
You don’t like Fate Haydee being a cuckquean?
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>>286421060
>servant
Wouldn't he be a ruler?
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>>286421114
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>>286421086
>He doesn't follow newer lore
Shameful

https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo
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>>286421238
cute
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>>286421200
The Dantes Guda summons isn't the normal Dantes, it's some convoluted version of Dantes from specifically his time in the prison that was originally summoned by Goetia to fuck with Guda.
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>Nrvnqsr Chaos is mentioned by Richard as the dead apostle he fought
>Night of Wallachia gets mentioned by Jester
At this point i'm almost expecting Roa or Vlov to appear out of nowhere somehow
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Please tell me that Hydra Gauntlet is gonna resurrect Jack Strange Fake with another head because there's no way in hell my boy is gonna die without showing off Casters magic weapon properly
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>>286421200
Partway through the book, Dantes disappears as a MC and starts trolling the fuck out of people. That's probably what the Fate one means by 'my accomplice'. Eh, book Haydee comes across more as a ward than a love interest.
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>>286421166
I think I'm getting a little emotional while looking at these things. Look at them, they're very small and clearly hungry but they're not getting mad nor planning to attack and steal from the big saber, they're quite polite and respectful... baby :))
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>>286421265
Nah, Chaos was the first crusade. He only fought a regular if powerful Dead Apostle in the third crusade.
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>IN MY ASS HERACLES?!
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>>286421284
Didn't herc murder her? Shouldn't she hate him?
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>>286421290
both the one on the throne and this 'hippolyta' are essentially a distributed clone system who aren't the same person as the one who died, but data copies. knowing the truth about your existence is guaranteed to chill the fuck out of most people
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>>286421154
fuck off KMR, you should be dead
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>>286421264
No
There were actually two Dantes all along, it's an entire twist in OC2. Yes both of them are Edmond Dantes, no neither of them are fictional like you're saying, no they're not an amalgamation or anything, they're the real Edmond Dantes. However the Dantes in Chaldea all this time was not the one who trapped you in that mind prison back during the first arc of the game
There's Chaldea Dantes and Dantes living in your head, they're two separate guys sometimes. It gets explained In his interludes and OC2. You should realize which Dantes is which based on which of them had the NP that is literally "I can trap people inside my mind".
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>>286421290
If it wasnt for hera being a jealous bitch they would’ve gotten along fine.
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So is Jack just useless without from hell? Like so weak that he would lose to zealot assassin
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>>286421320
game still goes on
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>>286421347
In a servant VS servant battle, sure, but he's still the best assassin imaginable.
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>>286421347
Dont worry he has flat-sama
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>>286416073
Richard is literally the highlight of this series. Every fight he's in is just the best.
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>>286421272
It's Chekhov's Gauntlet bro, you'll see next weekend.
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>>286421281
There's not a single thought in their minds
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>>286417800
>>286417849
>herc cheated
So how exactly did he cheat? What the fuck happened?
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>>286420720
Pedantic little bitch, sad someone called you out?
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>>286421395
How do you simply steal a Noble Phantasm and make it yours?
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Alcides must be one of the best beast killers ever. Just imagine saying 'no u' to any time a beast tries to use their main dps skill. LMAO.
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>>286421395
He gets grail mud special powers that allow him to effortlessly steal noble phantasms nilly willy.
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>>286421290
She knew Hera orchestrated it and Herc respected her as a warrior.
Also she's not a retard like her sister who became an eternal tsundere over being called beautiful once
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>>286420833
>He has EVERYTHING in the vault, all he has to do is pull it out
except plot armor
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>>286421114
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>>286421379
yes there is...
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where tf is enkidu in all of this wasnt he the one that specifically said to not let alcides and pale rider interact or else it could end the world?
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>>286417971
>He traded godhand for Twelve glories, which is much stronger
What the fuck does godhand and twelve glories even do?
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>>286421498
Playing fetch with his master
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>>286421422
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No way are these guys beating a DA.
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>>286417925
>getting filled with hot Angry Mango loads
Would bazzett be jealous?
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>>286421498
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>>286421505
Godhand just gives you 7 health bars with adaptive resistance to attack that destroy one of the bar.

Twelves Glories give him a shit ton of abilities like summoning Cerberus or his anti-man pelt.
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>>286421498
Did they even tell him about this? Once sigma mentioned his government contacts Richard and Zealot immediately just tacted themselves onto their plan.
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>>286421060
>>286421241
The black one or the guy behind Lutheranism
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>>286421538
The one that wants to fuck Angra is Caren.
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>>286421588
the latter, because Nasu doesn't seem to know about the catholic-protestant schism and I want to see how he reacts to learning about it
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>>286421588
The black one would be a horrible pick in a grail war against federal agents that assassinate.
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>>286421576
Enkidu's Presence Detection skill means he's generally aware of where his allies and enemies are at all times.
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Post your top 3 fights so far
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>>286421657
John Strange Fake vs Sissyclides
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>>286421639
Assassin (Riyo) vs MLK
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If Jester and Richard didn't block Alcides' arrows, would Tsubaki have died or could Pale Rider also have defended her?
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>>286421673
You will see what happens when Tsubaki is truly threatened.
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>>286421703
whats with the braid
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>>286421724
it goes up your butt
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>>286421567
>Twelves Glories give him a shit ton of abilities like summoning Cerberus or his anti-man pelt.
That seems broken as fuck.
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And there goes Jack from the story. Sucks, but Herc must buck break Gil.
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>>286421811
It is
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>>286420816
Homer as Greek Zatoichi
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>>286421812
Jack has one more major scene before the season is over.
And at least one more before the novel is over, Flat-Jack has to clear the air with Thia before dying.
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>>286421284
You're not wrong, she was made for anal
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>>286421812
You mean Ishtar has to save Alcides?
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>>286417861
Alcides is not a woman so her conceptual advantage is useless
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If Shirou had full knowledge of the 3 routes, would it be possible for him to convince Caster to become an actual ally to him?
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>>286421893
Given full precognitive knowledge? Easily. He'd know her identity and goals, and be able to explain the curse upon the grail as well as Gilgamesh lurking about, a factor she doesn't know about and can't deal with alone. Medea isn't an idiot, and oracles existed in her day.
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Im pushing hard sigmazealot

Hetgem
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>>286421930
Based.
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>>286421930
Sigma will recite the Shahadah before the end and get a powerup.
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>>286420811
Heracles would fight her exactly the same way he fought the Hydra, it's literally the same idea.
>According to Hesiod, the Hydra was the offspring of Typhon and Echidna.[3] It had poisonous breath and blood so virulent that even its scent was deadly.[4]
>Upon reaching the swamp near Lake Lerna, where the Hydra dwelt, Heracles covered his mouth and nose with a cloth to protect himself from the poisonous fumes. ... He then confronted the Hydra, wielding either a harvesting sickle (according to some early vase-paintings), a sword, or his famed club.
It's tied with killing the Nemean Lion as the thing he's most famous for doing, in Fate that should be some sort conceptual advantage in this specific situation.
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>>286420811
Heracles would shoot down the Hanging Gardens, as would Gil.
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>>286417570
FGO tourists can't comprehend an Avenger that isn't just a tsundere.
Alcides is the most pure Avenger in the franchise, he's a complete hypocrite when trying to accomplish his goals and that's what makes him great
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>>286422066
Tf you talking about, Taira is a much more pure avenger to the point where she basically becomes a berserker in the presence of ninjas
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>>286422066
example of rent-free
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Is she ever going to show up?
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>>286422066
>Dantes is tsundere
The fuck?
His very story is of an Avenger. Alcides is just a hypocritical retard.
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>>286417486
Kino trope
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>>286417570
I like him and think he's mostly right about his goal
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>>286420582
>>286420645
But they're laaaaaaaaaame
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>>286422119
>Is she ever going to show up?
She didn't DIE. She was expecting to, but you know, she was fighting against a Magus with ethics. We don't know what happened to her but if they want to they can make her join the Clocktower class in the future.
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>>286421927
What was Medea’s goal anyway? I feel like that either wasn’t explained well, or it was a quick explanation that got lost among the other stuff. I know by the end she just wanted to be with Kuzuki, but she felt almost belligerent to everyone else
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Not gonna lie, the fake police officers that kept appearing out of nowhere only to die so casually felt like that kind of ridiculous and hilarious jojo weirdness
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>>286422265
That's the whole point, they are supposed to be good so they have to be lame.
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NARITA LET THESE TWO HAVE A KISS ATLEAST I CANT FOR GODSAKE
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>>286422385
>NNNOOOOOO NOT THE WOBBLY SPOOKY SCRIBBLES THAT APPEAR FOR A FRACTION OF A SECOND OUT OF NOWHERE AIIEEEEEEEE MY UNDERWEAR HAS BEEN MUDDIED
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>>286422330
okay but why create such a sexy design if you're not going to have her be a main girl
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>>286422442
>okay but why create such a sexy design if you're not going to have her be a main girl
There is no "main girl" or "main guy" in the author's eyes. Everyone is the main character of their own stories.
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>>286422465
The two main characters are clearly Ayaka and Sigma, nobody else matters.
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>>286422465
There is no "main girl" or "main guy" in the author's eyes. It just so happens that some have more screen time than others.
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>the main character
Is jester.
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So many years went by and still strongest servant roster (by far) is FSN (and there were still some servantsbthat were hard nerfed).
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It doesn't count!!!!
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>>286422442
Characters can pop up anywhere in the nasuverse unless it's really difficult for them to appear elsewhere due to being an existence unique to that timeline. For example, someone identified that one of the random chaldea staff that appeared in the FGO finale were from El Melloi.
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Rewatching the ep

Man this show is aoty
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>>286422539
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>>286422539
So did Altera lost to pope Leo I in life?
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>>286422589
No, she's an alien that killed most of the gods.
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Jack put modern heroes in a good spotlight against age of gods heroes, such a shame herc has cheats, Jack was winning tho
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>>286422598
She still "married" Kriemhild and died at some point
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>>286422620
Jack accomplished absolutely nothing and was an embarrassment for modern heroes. A nerfed version of Herc completely mogged him.
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>>286422620
Jack was giga buffed by Flat. With a normal master he wouldn't be able to make as many clones as he did.
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Jack then
>loli with a fat ass
Jack now
>ULTIMATE GIGA SUPER SATAN
what the fuck happened
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>>286422637
He was winning you fucking idiot, in the novel he was about to win before Alcides drop the “no u” Uno card
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>>286422598
Would she have conceptual weakens agains ICE servants?
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>>286422684
He literally wasn't, Alcides even says as much when he casually muses that he could've easily used Nine Lives to counter.
The only damage Jack causes is in the first moments when he catches Alcides off-guard, and even that is irrelevant because he has Guts at A+
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>>286422539
The White titan is a cool concept shame we never fight it. Altera herself is a jobber in FGO
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>tfw sigma vs jester soon
>average soldier with guns vs vampire

Lmao
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Sex with Berserker Jack(loli form)
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>>286422664
Improvement.
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>>286422539
Altera lost to Gil here though?
Hakuno had to bail her out. She lost to basic poison lmao
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>>286417397
is he daijobu???
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>>286422703
But he didn't and he nearly died.
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>>286418566
He only have natural advantage against humans and gains potential when he's in a populated human civilization
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>>286417570
He's an overpowered inexpressive asshole who just sorta wins over and over again.
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>>286422703
“ I commend you for running this body down, I commend you for rising to the pinnacle”

Nah he was about to lose
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Isn't Haruri's name just a garbled Honore de Balzac
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>>286421252
God Hand in the VN is explicitly stated (by Seiba) that even an attack that can destroy the planet won't work if it doesn't have enough Mystery Rank.
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>>286422860
retard
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>>286422896
God Hand functions purely on rank, not on concept. Even King Hassan's Azrael wouldn't work on him.
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>>286422496
>The two main characters are clearly Ayaka and Sigma, nobody else matters.
Ayaka bardly did anything so far. And also Flat would get his main character moment eventually.
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In which universe is better stealing the power up instead of infinite clones

Like!? Alcides could have taken natural born killers and create infinite Alcides
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>>286422910
>Youve done well to corner me
Youre not making this shit better
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>>286422958
He's supposed to lose, it would be silly to give him something like that.
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>>286422958
Bazdilot's entire mana factory would be drained in seconds. He also didn't turn into a 20 foot demon so who the fuck knows.
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why didnt SHE just killed everyone and stopped the war anyway
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>>286423024
His mana factory can handle several months of Alcides going all out using his NPs, at the minimum it could handle him using 10 clones for a week straight.
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>>286422958
Best one in this war? Maybe Ea.
Best one overall in fatesverse? He is an extremely flexible debuffer, great for beasts. Head every team with someone like Lev as DPS/Tank, fill the rest with grands / situational and use Alcides to eliminate the most troublesome NP
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>>286422958
There may be some condition for stealing shit that we don't know about. Pandora is blacked out on Alkeides' stat page, so we still don't know exactly how it works.
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>>286422985
>You've done well to actually make me use my Noble Phantasm
Retard, Jack was using all of his shit while Alcides was just vibing
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>from hell has a fine print that alcides will fail to read.
Someone in the last thread mentioned this. Can you spoil me on what it means exactly? Is Alcides going to turn into a demon without realizing it lol?
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>steal EA
>can't use it due to Gilgamesh finger-print lock
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>oh my Reincarnation Pandora
really?
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What would transfer student Madoka Kaname cucking Rin by taking Shirou be like?
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>>286423221
He steals the chunk of the Saint Graph, Ea would work because it would believe he's Gil.
But GoB wouldn't work because it's just the storage, all of the NPs inside still belong to Gil
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>>286423202
He takes a bit of the Saint Graph from the enemy, meaning he's connected to Flat right now
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>>286423251
There should be some restrictions to this crap.
Imagine stealing Avalon and just spamming this shit.
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>>286423202
From Hell is a part of Jack and thus connected to Flat, so he could use his command spell to revert the transformation and stun Alcides.
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>>286423251
>>286423298
Oh big deal, so Flat can just revert the transformation and that's it? That really won't do jack shit will it.
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>>286423270
To steal Avalon he would first need to touch it. Which he shouldn't be able since Avalon puts in you in a different dimension like Obito's kamui
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>>286423346
>"steal" avalon
>gets teleported to merlin's neet cave
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>>286423314
Maybe you should wait before talking shit
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>>286423314
>That really won't do jack shit will it.
Correct, it ends up being meaningless.
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>>286418340
Wouldnt berserker count as a martial class
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The fuck is he going on about?
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>Dumas' Ability is to create fake NP
So is he just a bootleg EMIYA, or does he have another broken power?
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>>286423782
He'll be pulling some unique bullshit next week.
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>>286423782
He can literally give people temporary Plot Armor
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>>286423071
>why didnt SHE just killed everyone and stopped the war anyway
Why? The Church is sanctioning it. Let the Chrch clean up the mess if they had to. Anyway, Waver might be banned from physically going to the site, but that doesn't mean he isn't putting his pieces on the table. We know the war is going to go out of control any moment now, but if it becomes an Avengers level event then and only then you call the big guns. Right now it is just another Grail War, a bloodsport that is being under control.
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>>286422731
Imagine Berserker Altera. Delicious brown but she can white titan over everyone.
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>4 threads
Guess the episode was good
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>>286423251
If you stole GoB, everything in it would just fall out, and you'd only have to find the retrieval NP that Gil uses to recover the stuff he throws.
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>>286423988
>why
someone there called her dirty red
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This is true Justice
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Never once would I think of interpreting jack's folklore as this demonic
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>>286424124
I don't think it would fall out, but Gil would need to manifest them forcefully and one by one if he wanted to use them, which would be a massive mana-drain since GoB is essentially a way to circumvent that
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>>286417397
He didnt fly so good
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>Alcides steals Iskandar NP
>IONIAN HETAIROI!!
>Army doesn't recognize alcides
>gangs up on him
Kekw
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>>286424599
There's no reason for him to steal a mid-tier NP
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>check the episode on youtube
>full of retards spoiling everything that's gonna happen
Why are Fatetards like this
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>>286424662
Basado
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>>286424662
Sub-90 iq + high-functioning autism is usually the case, but I'm sure a lot also do it just because it's just fun to ruin any surprise for people getting invested in what they consider to be trash.
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>>286421114
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>>286424662
There were retards spoiling who Alcides is but saying completely retarded shit like "It's Heracles from a different timeline where the gods tortured him"
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>>286424599
Just steal Ars Almadel Salomonis. The salt flowing from Goetia and the tears of the demon pillars would be absolutely glorious for all of five seconds.
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>>286424599
Isn't the NP stealing more useful with regard to denying the enemy servant usage of it, rather than giving another tool to Alcides?
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>>286419722
I want to point out that Lancer was explicitly fucking mad at Archer for not taking pride in how melee combat ability. When Lancer of all people is saying you're good at it, you know you're pretty good.
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>>286424799
imo: the stronger the opponent and the more flexible your party composition is (ie chaldea) the more useful NP denial is as a prf skill.

the more inflexible your party, the more useful getting another tool is (ie HGW) because you only have 1 servant, the more things the servant can do the better.

Regardles, alcides is definitely an SSS+ tier servant no matter the scenario. Only problem is if you are facing an insane threat, you need to shield him until he can do his thing, which is where he might become a liability if he is KO'd first.
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>shitty serial killer
>actually badass character with badass NPs
I kneel. Sorry, loli Jack, but this is peak.
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>>286424662
It happens way too often
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>>286424877
>>286424877
>>286424877
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>>286424146
>someone there called her dirty red
She said she will come back to kill Prelati once she figured out a way to break Prelati's ability to reborn. So no point wasting time until then.
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>>286423346
Avalon doesn't do that anymore. It's more like a shield now. They've changed it.
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>>286424790
>gets Nega-Summon
Lmao
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>>286424478
>Never once would I think of interpreting jack's folklore as this demonic
The NAME is demonic. Jack is one of the folklore nicknames for the Devil. Springheel Jack being the most famous.

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