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Richard's moment was cut too short this episode.
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https://youtu.be/lZcQZTOeSLc?si=DDq_tFAxTCHtQdC1
Emiya (america)
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Yeah when I read the novel, Richard's fight with Gil made him seem super strong, like better than most of the Round Table knights and Paladins since he was easily handling GoB which most Servants can't do. Sure hope he gets to display more next episode.
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>>286416453
King's are higher tier than knights
In general none of the KotR are generally beating a King type servant such as Richard or Charlemange. In Fate lore King always has to be the strongest in the kingdom for some reason.
>But gawain is super powerful
On paper you wouldn't think gawain loses to Nero, and yet he does every single time.
Because she's an emperor
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>>286416628
It's off camera, but she's en route now that Alcides has appeared again.
After this battle all happens she attacks him and gets one good punch in, but he shrugs her off and escapes.
Hippolyta is filler.
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>On paper you wouldn't think gawain loses to Nero, and yet he does every single time.
>Because she's an emperor
Nero is maybe one of the worst examples to use, when she is maybe the least deserving "powerful" Servant that gets attention. She is also a magnet for awful writing outside of the original 2 Extra games.
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>>286416073
I've barely started the fight and Richard is already so cool. He's seriously shaping up to be one of my favorite servants.
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>>286416584
It's the other way around. Charlie's NP makes it clear knights on average would beat a king in a head to head confrontation because knights are fighters while kings are not.
Lancelot or Sun Gawain for instance would thrash Richard around the pavement since they can do so to Artoria.
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>>286416412
Natural Born Killers is a Tarantino movie about murderers
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>The golden Heroic Spirit probably far outclassed him. The strength of his Spirit Origin rivaled that of the beautiful Lancer Richard had met in the forest. He could tell at a glance that he had no chance of winning if they fought head-on. And then there was the grotesque bowman with demon’s horns sprouting from his head, with whom he had conversed earlier. He could tell that this Heroic Spirit was likewise so powerful that he had no hope.
>Richard’s Spirit Origin tensed and insistently warned him of danger. The alarm came from the fragments who were not quite Heroic Spirits and who accompanied Richard due to his
Noble Phantasm.
>“Do you want to die for nothing? Retreat before it’s too late,” Locksley the assassin, Pierre the bowman, and the other fragments of Spirit Origins continued to cool-headedly sound the
alarm. He could also sense the Spirit Origins of an indifferent-seeming swordsman and a mage who merely smiled faintly, but Saber himself was focused on the overwhelmingly mighty opponents
standing before him, his eyes shining.
>“My heart gave me permission. I doubt I could ever look down on you, but I take you for a storied Heroic Spirit worth looking up at. A king, judging by your manner. It’s not every day I
meet someone who merits respect just by standing there. I know my place, and so I give thanks that I was able to be here today.”
>“Mongrel. Do you intend to appraise me with such eyes? I have no need of thanks—I have not permitted you anything.”
>The golden-armored Heroic Spirit spoke dispassionately, without changing his expression.
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>“Be gone at once.”
>At that, the space behind the Heroic Spirit distorted and countless weapons emerged from holes in the air. When they moved, it was with the intent to kill Saber, who opened his eyes wide in astonishment.
>Like arrows loosed from drawn bows, numerous weapons shrouded in magical energy on par with Noble Phantasms fired at the spot where Saber stood.
>Sigma must have sensed the danger in advance, because he had already retreated to an alleyway by the church.
>Saber, left to stand alone, hesitated for a moment, but then spoke as if he had made sense of the situation.
>“When you said, ‘be gone,’ you meant from this world!”
>He drew his own sword with a cheerful grin.
>“Ha ha! What droll fellow!”
>It was a dull-bladed ornamental sword that had adorned the walls of the mansion in the wetlands that Sigma had made his base of operations. But as far as Saber was concerned, having a grip was enough to make it a fine weapon.
>The sword flashed for an instant and began swatting the weapons launched from behind the golden Heroic Spirit out of the air.
>Even so, it was only able to strike down a few of them—a drop in the bucket compared to the dozens of Noble Phantasms raining down.
>The golden Heroic Spirit was apparently convinced that that would suffice and had already turned his attention back to the monstrous Archer. That demonic-looking Archer, however, turned to look at Richard. His expression was indiscernible behind the strange cloth that covered his face. Richard’s instincts as a Heroic Spirit immediately alerted him that he was being evaluated for some unclear purpose, but he had no time to consider the point. In less than a second, the countless weapons were nearly upon him.
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>lets kill the vampire before he hits the grail
church
richard
Hassan
sigma
Dumas and The Police
Prelati
Jack
CIA
>Pale rider is gonna turn the entire world in its playground for tsubaki
CIA
Enkidu
Gilgamesh
Jack the reaper
Dumas and the Police
Alcides
>If the italian mafia wins the hitman will destroy the whole USA
CIA
Gilgamesh
hippolyta
Dumas and the Police
Huwawa
Ishtar
>If Huwawa and the borzark mafia family wins they will erase the magic of the world
Enkidu
Heracles
Richard
Hassan
Sigma
Dumas and the Police
>Im here to kill Gilgamesh
Ishtar
Huwawa
Enkidu
Alcides
Richard
>ACAB
Gilgamesh
Hippolyta
Richard
Alcides
Jester
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CLOWNcides
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kek
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>>286416682
GO TAKE SOME COVER!!
KUTCHYAGATTOBREAKATAFEVERFRAKUTYAGAT JUST A COPYCAT FURAKUSHURAKUSHUSHIKAKURIRAKO DUCK AND COVER!!
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Jester status?
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>>286417299
No one knows who Jack really was, SF Jack is all possibilities mashed into a single servant and Apo Jack is one of these possibilities.
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What does bro think he's going to do against Heracles...
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>>286417380
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JOHN!
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>>286417277
getting cucked by a legal shota is crazy work
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>>286417435
>Richard's very own garden of avalon
would be kino.
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>>286417486
Richard website
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>>286417435
>He should have his own show, at least 3 seasons.
Agreed. He's so fucking cool.
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meh, it's no Fate/Zero
it's cool and all, but characters feel overpowered, attacks have no weight to it, it just tries to be a spectatle all the time, F0 was more real, visceral, you got engaged to the characters, it seems the only interesting one is Sigma
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Lotta people don't realize, Fate is all a battle of concepts. Can Jack the Ripper beat Heracles, maybe if you can bullshit his concept to be bigger than Heracles temporarily. By turning Jack into not just a person that killed a few women, but the archetype of serial killers, the murderer lying in the darkness, a literal demon, how high can you bullshit a concept. Once they become a servant they are no longer a flesh and blood person; it is not a fight between the still living human heracles and the still living human jack, no they have become concepts entirely. And concepts are something you can bullshit, they are things you can twist.
Alcidies himself being twisted into a grail altered monster is also proof of this.
Both servants come at each other with the strength of their story, the strength of their rank, their skill, their concepts, their conceptual advantages, their conceptual disadvantages, and see which concept is greater.
Jack gave it a good shot using From hell and Natural born Killers together to become an army of 500 demons. Unfortunately the anime kinda cut the part where he was actually dealing a bit of damage to Heracles.
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>Richard lies to Gil about becoming friends with Enkidu
>Gil now thinks Enkidu is cheating on him
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>>286417570
It's just one guy
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>>286417566
Bro the character is shit, it's very fitting he hides his face to never express himself. Proper Herakles is already pretty boring, making him a retarded avenger obsessed with gods in the current year is just sad.
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Jester….
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>>286417596
fantastic shots all around.
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>>286417570
A combination of being a non character, bullshitting every fight he's in with deus ex machina and "Yeah I was hit in my conceptual weakness perfectly by the worst weapon possible, but sorry it did zero damage, fuck you. I don't even have a reason why it did zero damage, clearly I was hit by it perfectly, I don't even have to bother giving a reason why it didn't work, who cares" before he flies off yet again. He's a character that exists as just bullshitting every situation he's in.
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>>286417617
I am eating so good
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>>286417611
rent free kek
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>>286416073
very cute
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>>286417687
I WANT to see real Herakles in fate do super cool shit and act in line with his legend, even if he just isn't all that interesting of a character. But for some reason that's just not allowed in fate. Instead we get this dull mortal manlet with a paper bag over his head sperging out about gods while Ishtar does dumb shit 100ft from him.
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>>286416073
This jack would have beaten Alcides btw
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>>286417723
It happens but they skipped it in the anime
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>>286417723
They cut it. In the LN when they are discussing the plan for the hospital Jack transforms into loli Jack to pretend to be the little girl and says he feels that is his most natural form. But Flat tells him to change back because he doesn't want to be arrested for walking around with a loli in a thong.
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>>286417789
Jack is like an A+ rank servant in this situation
Alcidies is an EXX rank servant
Jack was actually amazingly strong here, everyone in the novel was jacking off how incredible this was, but Alcidies just has the power to no diff people
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>>286416453
i dont understand how you could possibly think that. they start off by saying that he's nothing special, just fast. gilgamesh says he was testing him and could have ended it asap otherwise.
richard hasnt done anything spectacular at any point in the story thus far
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>>286417925
He traded godhand for Twelve glories, which is much stronger, but it requires like 100x as much mana as godhand ever did, and is impossible to upkeep for any normal master
Bazdilot is doping with grail mud and sacrifice crystals
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>>286416682
This ghetto song has somewhat grown on me. Overall I think sF might end up being my favorite Fate spin-off adaptation even though its still imperfect. Praise be to Narita.
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>>286417789
>Is jack just weak
you notice he killed Cereberus in one hit, when he was just a single demon
Then the camera pans out to show Jack had become 500 demons
All of them much stronger than Cerberus
Alcidies has the strongest plot armor at the moment.
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>>286417861
Based
#Not my jack
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>>286418125
Combination of Natural Born Killers and From Hell
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>jack has no "main body", Jack can become an entire crowd of people, with all of them being his main body, he exists as all of them
>This is based on the legend that Jack was a group of people working together
>Jack can manifest as dozens of people at once, hundreds even. All of them are the real Jack.
>From hell allows him to become a demon
>When used together he can become a horde of demons
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>>286418198
It is when we're talking about someone who, in reality, would have just been a mundane guy killing prostitutes for a sick thrill. The fact that his legend can elevate him to level of warriors that can face armies on their own is a testament to his fame.
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>>286416073
>次なる宝具の輝きは三十二を数えた。今度ばかりはライダーまでもが押し黙った。十六宝具の連撃を、ついに凌いでのけたバーサーカーであったが、まさ かそれに倍する攻撃までもが繰り出されようとは思うまい。それを言うなら他 のサーヴァントたちとて 同様だった。もはや黄金のアーチャーの潜在力は、誰にも見積もることなど出 来ない域にあった。
>The next glow of Noble Phantasms counted thirty-two. This time, even Rider fell silent. Berserker had finally manage to withstand the chained assault of sixteen Noble Phantasms, but he ("he" is Rider, that's why the last line says even he felt silent) certainly didn't expect an attack twice as powerful to be unleashed. The same was true of the other Servants. By now, the latent power of the golden Archer had reached a realm no one could possibly measure.
Gilbros... how do we argue against BerserkerlotCHADs now that our copium 32 NPs line was confirmed a mistranslation that never implied Lancelot would lose...? Meanwhile mats still confirm not only that Lancelot was the greatest threat of the 4th HGW but also confirm he would beat Gil and every other Servant that isn't Diarmuid during the 4th War...?
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>>286417723
There were more scenes of that happening in the ln but all of the more prominent ones got skipped over.
The only instance of Berserker Jack turning into loli Jack right now is from the scene where he activates From Hell
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Don't trust soldiers
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They're all God's sluts
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>>286418566
>Media has time stop and partial divinity
>Cu has partial divinity
>Gil is divine
>Herc is Divine
>Rider non-human
Honestly the only servants From Hell even reliably work on are Saber and Hasan and they might just get out of it with fate alteration.
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>>286418614
>not using double digit numbering from 01-10
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Unpopular opinion:
King order offers variety and is actual representation of Herc legend.
God hand is shit and should only be limited to Berserker class.
King Order should be default for all other classes, but no class can use all 12 powers. Instead they can only use labors associated with them.
For example, Herc uses bows and arrows in 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th labor, so his Archer version got NP corresponding to them.
Herc as Rider can ride whatever creature he captured alive, so he got stuffs from 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 10th and 12th labor.
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He didn't say anything about enjoying himself, he said 'participate in fate threads'. If you haven't read F/SN's visual novel then you don't know shit and will constantly misunderstand basic things about the setting, because literally EVERYTHING assumes basic familiarity with F/SN. They never bother to fully explain stuff that only gets explained in the novel.
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>>286418806
Both god hand and the berserker class are jobber traits in fate. They don't do anything useful. Herc's best skill is nine lives, which is locked as a berserker. He probably makes best use of nine lives as a saber, but a regular archer is the best fit for a grail war. He could snipe people across the city with the hydra bow. Like pic related but rapid fire and not a shitter. Archer would also give him the most freedom to approach every battle however he wants, like he did in his trials.
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>When he hears Enkidu made a new friend
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Artoria with full energy (Excalibur hits them all). Gilgamesh (Enuma Elish hits them all if deemed worthy, otherwise it will take awhile to kill them all with Gate of Babylon but not impossible). Heracles (God Hand will become resilient to demonic claws and eye beams, they might get between 4 to 8 kills but I can't imagine more than that with all their strength).
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From Hell doesn't actually care if you're human or not, that was just Jack posturing about his own nature, not his noble phantasm. It's not a conceptual weapon, it sends his martial power through the roof.
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>>286419023
Illya kino only has 4 seasons though
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>>286419020
>You can just pick them off one by one
He can actually just keep infinitely cloning himself unless you kill all clones at the same time.
That's the entire point of showing you the cop scene earlier; Jack kept appearing and shooting Cerberus as Cerberus kept eating the cops, Jack was literally feeding himself to Cerberus, Jack didn't care he was being eaten at all since his clones being killed can't actually damage him seriously. Whenever the number goes down he just makes more.
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>>286418566
It really depends on the master pairing. He can only create so many bodies because Flat is an excellent master. The population density of the area they're batting in is also ideal for propelling Jack's strength through the roof. Still, those with anti-army Noble Phantasms are suited to taking him on.
Saber, Lancer, Rider, Berserker, and Gilgamesh should be able to combat him fairly well. Caster's temple might also hinder Jack's ability to operate at full potential, and it's remote enough that he might not get a substantial increase in power since it checks an area of 5 km for living humans.
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>Flat will easily run out of mana
I dunno
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>can't wait to talk about the anime
>power level fagging
why do I even bother
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>>286419141
Thia has no physical presence until Flat dies. Flat is a human, despite appearances. He is unbelievably efficient, he can stretch the mana a mile to keep a fight going, but he is not a bottomless well of magical energy.
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>>286419151
What do you want to talk about, anon?
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>>286419160
All of that exists perfectly within flat, all those abilities, Flat just doesn't consciously activate it most of the time. Fact that he can already turn Jack into a horde of demons without it effecting him already shows his mana is basically limitless.
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>>286419059
No it didn't? The anime added Saber killing him once to show off God Hand (because otherwise there'd be no other moment to explain it until the Gilgamesh fight). But that was it. They never showed him dying or reviving from the Caladbolg attack
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Give me more children and cheats or I leave
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assassin will fuck the child soldier right?
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>>286419151
It was a great episode. Which parts did you like/dislike?
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kek, this disgusted face.
fsf needs more memes. that's what made zero stand out here
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>>286419385
As an amateur with no magic experience I'd prefer Assassin Jack. She can regain mana by her own and it'd be easier for me to perform mana transfer rituals with her than with Berserker Jack. I'm taking this decision purely from a strategic point of view, objectively speaking
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wonder what the overlap is from /a/ and the fgo general
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>no mana for days
He was receiving mana from Rin. By the time he fought Berserker, he was fully healed from Saber's sword.
>jobber swords
He didn't used Jobber swords.
He used 6 A rank Noble Phantasm to kill Herc.
EMIYA being an archer isn't that really impressive when you have wanker who can shoot 20km away.
He is better off in close-quarter combat with le batman experience.
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>>286418106
One-shot those if powered by a caster, and to begin with FGO enemy strenght isn't to scale. Only serves to give an idea. There has been many instances of FGO saying "this new jobber monster is as strong as a servant...and there's 100 of it!!!" and then your servants no diff them.
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I might've confused routes. Its been a while.
>He is better off in close-quarter combat with le batman experience.
May be so, but still not a meelee fighter. It was just to show how Berserk and God Hand are kinda weak if even an Archer going meelee with downgraded NPs can fuck him up
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>>286419637
I just come here to see the reactions laugh at seeing similar posts from years ago then go back to waiting for an update
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>>286418106
Cerberus isn't fodder, it's the son of Typhon and a monster so strong that it was made the guardian of the underworld because it was basically considered unbeatable
Which is why Heracles had to do it as his final labor since it was the most utterly impossible, and required Hades basically approving it
The king of Cyprus didn't think it was possible
Nasu doesn't tend to understand western myths and fodderizes literally everything in them
But the Cerberus in LB5 are specifically mass produced copies that are heavily degraded
They basically had Echidna shitting out monsters constantly and the monsters were minmaxed towards quantity
When you have Orion fighting two Cerberus you should realize they've been fodderized and greatly weakened, even regular Olympic soldiers were stronger
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>>286419223
Yep.
>Q: Berserker took no damage from Archer's A-rank Noble Phantasm "Broken Phantasm" (Caladbolg), is it ineffective due to Berserk's Noble Phantasm, or was he simply able to withstand it naturally? <Not Mr. Shanoa>
>Nasu: Oh, that. In the original work it was like "Even though up until then none of the attacks had been worth dodging, this one would have been fatal, so Berserker counters the resulting explosion from the Noble Phantasm is devastating." Yet in the anime version it was handled as "Berserker could not respond to it due to a severe injury from Saber losing one of his lives, and regenerates," which may be something to think about. In all he lost 2 lives because of it.
>Takeuchi: Oh, so that's why God Hand in the anime version needed 3 days to recover!
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>>286419492
>normal face
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>see red head cutie servant once
>never see her again
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>>286419878
Maybe if you had read the VN you'd know about all the times Shirou gets brutally murdered because you made a slightly wrong decision
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>>286417662
I love how he's had the same voice actor forever.
Shit is VERY cash!
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>>286419889
she is on her way right now actually (off screen)
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>>286419814
>Cerberus isn't fodder, it's the son of Typhon and a monster so strong that it was made the guardian of the underworld because it was basically considered unbeatable
And as Alcides complained about, it only displays that power when Hades gives the thumbs up.
As he is now, Hades is disapproving, wherever he is, and so Cerberus fell from Divine Beast (endgame boss) category to Monstrous Beast (fodder).
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>offer a prostitute as a sacrifice to the serial killer known to have killed prostitutes
>you summon an amalgamation of those prostitues pretending to be Jack the Ripper instead and get killed
How was he supposed to know?
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>Supposed to be weakened and about to die after Jack's NP
>OOOPS I GRAB YOU WITH ONE HAND AND NOW YOU'RE STUNNED. I TAKE YOUR NP TEEHEE
What a bullshit fight.
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>multiple servants using their NPs on me? no problem
>an army of NP wielding guys? no problem
>gang raped by demons? didn't even hurt
he breaks everything about Fate battles and power scaling. Even Gilgamesh, as strong as he is, has weaknesses and can be pressed by other servants like Lancelot. Divinity or no, Alcides is just bullshit.
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>>286419963
No its, literally impossible
Cerberus was supposed to be so strong that it was supposed to be even impossible for Heracles in his legend, he did it anyway because he's Heracles, the ultimate hero. Other heroes could not have done what he did, not even Orion. It was a beast so strong that Hades considered it worthy of guarding the entire underworld. Some heroes may have gotten past it before, but using cunning, only Heracles can get past it using brawn.
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Its a half assed justification; it didn't have power in its story because of Hades, it had its power because its own innate ability as a monster. And its because of its power as a monster that Hades chose it as his guard dog to begin with. With that logic he may as well have chosen anything to guard the underworld and given it his blessing, since that's where 99% of its power comes from now.
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It took the whole clan to barely go toe to toe with Assassin, them being underdog is an understatement. Would've already been wiped out if not for the priest
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the tale wags the dog because of the metafiction aspect. Herakles defeating Keroberos is a bigger deal than him defeating the Nimean Lion specifically because Keroberos was the guardian of Hades. Meaning an 'unemployed' Keroberos, reflexively, is worth less glory and thus is weaker. These beings are living stories made of tropes and narrativium
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How come Alejandro Dumas is a "heroic" spirit anyway? He is not from ancient times or made insane scientific breakthroughs; he just wrote novels.
What's next, summon Kefka and he will turn people into roaches by calling them wagies?
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With how Fate works Gregor Samsa is probably a real wereroach.
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>>286420720
Maybe watch the story then
Story tells you that they were at their weakest when they fought assassin, but it was a necessary fight for them since they needed a weak enemy for them to acclimate to their NPs. The more they use their NPs and put themselves into life and death battles, the more each of them will acclimate to their NPs and become stronger. Jester puts a stop to the fight because her surmises that 70% of them will die fighting asssassin, but the 30% remaining will becoming servant tier and take her down, because they will have fully melded with their NPs. He decides to take over instead to save Assassin from losing, and because the NPs won't work against him due to compatibility, vampires are strong against NP.
When they fight, whenever they do anything, they are creating a "story". Their NPs are not fully baked yet, nor are their abilities. For them to reach completion they need to get involved with them as much as possible and face life and death situations. The more situations the cops get into the more they can create legends for themselves, and the more they will get used to their NP.
Durmas sees the cops story as a work in progress, its not done yet. He's still writing all of them. They need to awaken their NPs.
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>>286420749
Novelists who create works that are themselves deemed legendary get into the throne.
William Shakespeare, Hans Christian Andersen, Murasaki Shikibu, and Dante Alighieri are all heroes too. I have no doubt Homer and Aesop fit the mold just fine.
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>>286420749
>hah impressive NP Kafka
>you almost got me franz
>however you understimated by ultimate Wizard trick
I AM VIRGIN AND UNEMPLOYED
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>Pulls out NP that neutralizes poison
You have no idea how Gilgamesh works
He has EVERYTHING in the vault, all he has to do is pull it out
The only way to beat him is stopping him from being able to pull it out.
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>>286420860
King Arthur wasn't an individual either.
Fate can take it any way the author pleases. A whole person who just faded into myth and rumor, a group of people sharing a name, a phantom spirit without stable identity, any option is valid.
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>tsubaki's parents uses bacteria magecraft
How is that even a thing? Bacteria is discovered through science, not mystery. Sure, we don't know everything about bacteria, but the existence of it, or rather the knowledge of its existence is a product of science. It should therefore be antithetical to have something like "bacteria magecraft"
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>accidentally summon George RR Martin
>have to expend all my command seals only to get him to do anything thats not eating
>tells me he will fight next year bro
>miss war
>only get drafts with descriptions of food and shittings
>t-thanks holy grail
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The Kuruokas practice a discipline of symbiosis magecraft, working with any organism that can be implanted within the body. They were inspired by and practiced in mimicry of the Makiri wormcraft.
It was only these modern practitioners who discovered a strain of mysterious microorganisms (which are actually fungi, not bacteria) in the jungles of south america and decided "let's try it with this". The result was a brain dead daughterwho is now a living goddess.
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>>286420980
Hubris is required to make a good story
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Gil has antidotes and Herk will die instantly.
Semiramis has Hydra Poison at the ready just in case Chiron went after her so she can just kill Herk the same way.
She also has EX-rank magic blasts anyway.
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>>286416073
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>>286420905
I do wonder what stuff would JK Rowling gain access to as a servant.
Does she gets access to everything the mages in Harry Potter can do like the forbidden spells,would she be able to create horcruxes?
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>He doesn't follow newer lore
Shameful
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo
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>>286421200
Partway through the book, Dantes disappears as a MC and starts trolling the fuck out of people. That's probably what the Fate one means by 'my accomplice'. Eh, book Haydee comes across more as a ward than a love interest.
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>>286421166
I think I'm getting a little emotional while looking at these things. Look at them, they're very small and clearly hungry but they're not getting mad nor planning to attack and steal from the big saber, they're quite polite and respectful... baby :))
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>>286421290
both the one on the throne and this 'hippolyta' are essentially a distributed clone system who aren't the same person as the one who died, but data copies. knowing the truth about your existence is guaranteed to chill the fuck out of most people
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NoThere were actually two Dantes all along, it's an entire twist in OC2. Yes both of them are Edmond Dantes, no neither of them are fictional like you're saying, no they're not an amalgamation or anything, they're the real Edmond Dantes. However the Dantes in Chaldea all this time was not the one who trapped you in that mind prison back during the first arc of the game
There's Chaldea Dantes and Dantes living in your head, they're two separate guys sometimes. It gets explained In his interludes and OC2. You should realize which Dantes is which based on which of them had the NP that is literally "I can trap people inside my mind".
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>herc cheated
So how exactly did he cheat? What the fuck happened?
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The black one or the guy behind Lutheranism
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Given full precognitive knowledge? Easily. He'd know her identity and goals, and be able to explain the curse upon the grail as well as Gilgamesh lurking about, a factor she doesn't know about and can't deal with alone. Medea isn't an idiot, and oracles existed in her day.
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Heracles would fight her exactly the same way he fought the Hydra, it's literally the same idea.
>According to Hesiod, the Hydra was the offspring of Typhon and Echidna.[3] It had poisonous breath and blood so virulent that even its scent was deadly.[4]
>Upon reaching the swamp near Lake Lerna, where the Hydra dwelt, Heracles covered his mouth and nose with a cloth to protect himself from the poisonous fumes. ... He then confronted the Hydra, wielding either a harvesting sickle (according to some early vase-paintings), a sword, or his famed club.
It's tied with killing the Nemean Lion as the thing he's most famous for doing, in Fate that should be some sort conceptual advantage in this specific situation.
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>>286417570
FGO tourists can't comprehend an Avenger that isn't just a tsundere.
Alcides is the most pure Avenger in the franchise, he's a complete hypocrite when trying to accomplish his goals and that's what makes him great
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But they're laaaaaaaaaame
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>Is she ever going to show up?
She didn't DIE. She was expecting to, but you know, she was fighting against a Magus with ethics. We don't know what happened to her but if they want to they can make her join the Clocktower class in the future.
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What was Medea’s goal anyway? I feel like that either wasn’t explained well, or it was a quick explanation that got lost among the other stuff. I know by the end she just wanted to be with Kuzuki, but she felt almost belligerent to everyone else
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So many years went by and still strongest servant roster (by far) is FSN (and there were still some servantsbthat were hard nerfed).
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>>286422442
Characters can pop up anywhere in the nasuverse unless it's really difficult for them to appear elsewhere due to being an existence unique to that timeline. For example, someone identified that one of the random chaldea staff that appeared in the FGO finale were from El Melloi.
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He literally wasn't, Alcides even says as much when he casually muses that he could've easily used Nine Lives to counter.
The only damage Jack causes is in the first moments when he catches Alcides off-guard, and even that is irrelevant because he has Guts at A+
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Best one in this war? Maybe Ea.
Best one overall in fatesverse? He is an extremely flexible debuffer, great for beasts. Head every team with someone like Lev as DPS/Tank, fill the rest with grands / situational and use Alcides to eliminate the most troublesome NP
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>oh my Reincarnation Pandora
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What would transfer student Madoka Kaname cucking Rin by taking Shirou be like?
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Oh big deal,so Flat can just revert the transformation and that's it? That really won't do jack shit will it.
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>why didnt SHE just killed everyone and stopped the war anyway
Why? The Church is sanctioning it. Let the Chrch clean up the mess if they had to. Anyway, Waver might be banned from physically going to the site, but that doesn't mean he isn't putting his pieces on the table. We know the war is going to go out of control any moment now, but if it becomes an Avengers level event then and only then you call the big guns. Right now it is just another Grail War, a bloodsport that is being under control.
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>4 threads
Guess the episode was good
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>why
someone there called her dirty red
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I don't think it would fall out, but Gil would need to manifest them forcefully and one by one if he wanted to use them, which would be a massive mana-drain since GoB is essentially a way to circumvent that
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>check the episode on youtube
>full of retards spoiling everything that's gonna happen
Why are Fatetards like this
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I want to point out that Lancer was explicitly fucking mad at Archer for not taking pride in how melee combat ability. When Lancer of all people is saying you're good at it, you know you're pretty good.
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imo: the stronger the opponent and the more flexible your party composition is (ie chaldea) the more useful NP denial is as a prf skill.
the more inflexible your party, the more useful getting another tool is (ie HGW) because you only have 1 servant, the more things the servant can do the better.
Regardles, alcides is definitely an SSS+ tier servant no matter the scenario. Only problem is if you are facing an insane threat, you need to shield him until he can do his thing, which is where he might become a liability if he is KO'd first.
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>shitty serial killer
>actually badass character with badass NPs
I kneel. Sorry, loli Jack, but this is peak.
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