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Or is the best they can do lust-fueled obsession?
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>>34427460
They're capable of it, but almost no one of either sex knows that love is. Love isn't and has never been a passionate emotional attachment. Love is impartial good will and the willingness to self-sacrifice. So when you do meet somebody who's capable of love, don't be surprised if he isn't head over heels for you. His love will be calm, cool and collected. Only people who are driven by lust or some other personal desire become emotionally enflamed and then mistakenly call that love.
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>>34427460
Men are the highest performers and the worst performers. The greatest lovers, the worst lovers. Asking if ALL men are X is setting up a retarded blanket statement. 99% of super geniuses and retards are male.
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>>34427460
Yes men are capable of love, but our love have three chapters:
Your body/sex/"lust"
Your character/mind/"Soul".
The greater good/good of all.
The pathway in which most men operate is this:
>We see the woman at face value, her body, face, hair, boobs, hips, legs, ass etc
>We get strongly pulled in, your image burns into our fantasy in our minds
>We are spurred on by sex drive, dared by our own libido to go and say hello and get to know you.
>If you catch us mentally naked at this part, yes you will only see a guy who wants sex.
>But if the guy is continuing to pursue, he eventually starts to see her character, her personality, her 'soul'
>He starts to develop more complex and more sophisticated feelings for her, ones that transcend the lust: Infatuation.
>He is now infatuated, really digs both her body and mind. He is in a relationship with her by this point, and he doesn't know where this thing with her will go, he doesn't know, but he wants to build something with her, he just doesn't know what yet
>He grows to learn everything about her. Her faults and blessings, her strengths and weaknesses, everything. He starts building up a plan, a goal. He decides he is going to take her with him in the journey to a greater good
>Marriage/family building/sacrificial love
That's the way it is. And if you are an immature girl, or, no men have ever sat you down and explained how this works, you will only assume the worst out of men just for the fact they have a cock and enjoy naked ladies.
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>>34427460
So the point is: If you expect love out of the man on day 1, you're going to be disappointed. Because love can't be built in a day. There is a process over time and bonding and mutual reciprocation that is required for that over at least a span of 6 months.
Women can have the exact same immaturity as men this way, only it's inverted: They fell for the promises of female 'porn', aka romance movies, rom-coms, Disney, romance novels and books. And I call it 'porn' because even though it's different presentation it carries the same consequences: It sets young girls up for fantasy and not reality. Exactly the same way as someone immature men who use too much porn start shitting themselves if the girl isn't wanting to fuck him on day 1.
If you continue with the fantasy of expecting love from men right away, you set yourself up for three things:
1) You will remain alone. With no fantasy dream guy, because he does not exist.
2) You will be lied to by an immature guy who pretends he loves you right at the start, he will play Mr Nice Guy, and he will fool you, fuck you, and then he takes a hike.
3) You will meet a guy who claims to love you right away, but unlike Nice Guy, he isn't after sex. He is after 'love', but not adult love. Not reciprocated love. He is after motherly love, and rather than make you a wife, he makes you his mom. He will take years and years even decades from you, but you won't be seeing that wedding ring. You won't be seeing any adult male love or support. He'll want you to mother hin and he will drain you until you're absolutely spent. And then if you leave, the funniest thing happens - he finds someone else to replace you, as if you didn't exist.
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>>34427527
>Interesting you never hear of someone falling in love with old woman. I wonder why
Have you fell in love with a 89-year-old man? And also, maybe the reason why no one wants the old woman is because the old women doesn't want the boy, she is happily married or loyally widowed. That ever cross your mind?
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>>34427460
Recently e-dated a girl that kept complaining I was sexualizing her. Like every time I flirted with her she brought it up in annoyance later.
She also kept acting like I didn't love her beyond that and antagonized me for it. It was a very brief "what's even the point" relationship even for a total virgin like me.
Female thought patterns are insane just stick to anime
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>>34428709
First mistake was dating an e-girl. They hate men for being men yet want their attention anyway. They want guys to only give them the emotional validation, none of the sexual aspect and absolutely zero of the commitment aspect. They only want what I like to call chapter 2 of male love. They just want you to be infatuated with them and that's all, nothing more and nothing less. Because they use guys for validation, but it's at a distance. Which is why she lives on the internet, it's at a distance. If you show sexual attraction you're a creep. If you show committed fealty or pledge love, you're a creep. And the thing is, given the social distancing she would be correct on both counts. At that social distance it is creepy to expect sex or love from her.
However what is even creepier is the fact she is the one who plays the game of wrapping as many guys around her pinky as she can get for e-fame or money. If she were consistent she wouldn't be an e-girl. So when you meet a girl like that, don't pursue. Find someone worth the energy instead.
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>>34429102
there are 1 zillion gorillion women and there will always be a few who don'd to tthadt even gr hgri;hg urhg;aiuhwe
you know?
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>>34429159
You'll be surprised to find that a woman's definition of "Chad" is far different from a man's definition of "Chad". Their definition is so different from it, they don't even use the word "Chad". What a lot of inexperienced or immature people are calling "Chad" is actually in reality just a synonym for "Adult". Someone who grew up.
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>>34429185
No idea who that is, but I looked him up and I saw "online streamer/influencer" so the answer to that question is no. It's a 20 year old adult who still thinks life is a popularity contest like in high school.
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mod team just insta-removed a minesweeper thread, so they're leaving this off-topic spam up intentionally
eat shit
here's the solution if the other anon is here
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>>34429239
clavicular is literally a retarded pol psyop maybe stop falling for obvious advertisement, this guy is a literally who industry plant it cant be more obvious
theres a company behind him that also manages asmongold mr beast and so on i forgot the name
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>>34429212
Yeah and what women consider to be hot/top is different from what men consider. Every time I see other men point to a male "Chad" it's always a homo erotic looking male model. Something they consider to be macho on the surface but it's always a guy who has the vanity of a woman.
>>34429239
Teens call him Chad. That's why he's a streamer, he entertains teens let's face it. He hooks up with losers. Why not just call those types of women out for what they are? They're dead beat women. There's nothing to envy and nothing to admire.
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>>34429239
>hooks up with tons of women, some of which have boyfriends.
Seriously that's the thing that pisses me off with other guys, never understood this shit. And I am not a great guy myself, I know I am not better than any of you. But fuck my life, this logic is so retarded:
>Aw man I hate cheating whores I hate ways girls and I hate these cheap vapid bitches
>But aw man I wanna be the guy who all he does all day is to fuck them and mingle with them I wish I could fuck them so bad, man I would be so Chad, man.
??? Where's the logic. You either hate vapid easy loose bitch women who have no faith in relationships or men, or you don't. You need to pick one.
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In my lifetime, there was only ONE girl I've felt some resemblance of love even through I never meet her.
All the other girls I've dated/tried to date was only to get my dick wet. I was never capable to developing some sort of emotional connection to these girls as I found them uninteresting as people.
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>>34429318
>These aren't losers
They absolutely are losers. You can be a 1/10 loser or a 10/10 loser. A loser remains a loser and no amount of physical beauty can mask that.
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>>34429260
no its not, when women go for good looking rich men its the same as men going for hot looking girls
its really no different
in fact i dont know men who date 70 yo grannys bc of money, but there are countless stories of girls getting banged by 50+ yo rich men
it is very superficial
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>>34429311
i never said i wanted to be anybody, if i was able to hook up with girls i wouldn't ask about it either, i would trust that they were single. if they told me they had boyfriends i would kick them out. my point is he's able to get girls to give up on their relationships just from how hot he is and he is objectively not an adult yet.
>>34429318
these girls have self respect, its not like they'll hook up with anyone, they'll only hook up with hot confident charismatic guys like him.
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>>34429332
Those are not the same thing. But they are both shallow as fuck if that is the only expectation or motivation from both the man seeking hot woman, or woman seeking money man.
What makes them both shallow if that's they're only expectation and they only care about looks and not the person beneath. Or if the woman only cares for money but not the man who earns it.
That's what makes both types a loser. They're shallow people, anon. They don't have much going for their personalities. If you were to sit those types down for a conversation you would be bored as shit. You would fight falling asleep and you would stifle a yawn.
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>>34429344
The guy isn't confident, he injected himself with steroids while being a shut-in at the age of 14. Which suggests he had body image issues and really wanted to prove something to himself. That's indicative of being a seething loser who tries hard to appease other people's opinions or perceptions. Think anon, think. Where is his wedding band? Where is his kids? Where is his family home with love and loyalty and joy in his front porch, with his kids playing out in the summer sun with a faithful pet dog? He has none of that. All he has to his name is having sex with unfaithful women who he knows wouldnt care about him if he wasn't e-famous. He only attracts loser women.
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>>34429347
there are many girls/women going after good looking men too, not just the money men, sometimes they go after a mix, and many many girls go after 'popular guys' as long as hes 'famous' he will have girls flock to them
how can you act like this doesnt happen lol
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>>34429371
I'm not acting like it doesn't happen. What I am telling you is both the men and women in that dynamic are miserable losers. They're "street people". They belong to the streets, brother. That means they just do nothing but have empty meaningless fucks to chase a ego high or a vanity high which will fade and taper off eventually and when it does, no one will want them. They either die of OD or suicide, I've seen so many of those types of people come and go. Take Zyzz for example. Same story a former NEET who was sick of being a loser. He got swole and shredded attracted a lot of sluts. He became the champion of /fit/, everyone loved him because he would brutally knock those women down and make them feel small, and everyone would jizz about it because it really scratched that "this will teach the stupid girl who rejected me" itch if all his fans.
He died in a sauna line a dog, heart attack brought in by the same drugs he pumped into himself to prove some gay point to himself.
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>>34429381
well and?
it doesnt change that good looking rich people exist in both genders, it is what it is
you seem like you are coping hard
and im saying this as a fellow coper myself but at least im realistic and dont try to talk everyone down, i realise rich people etc exist and not everyone will secretly die by kys
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>>34429395
I'm not talking about rich people, it's not simply about the money or the looks, it's about the attitude and the mindset, their personalities are absolute trash. And that's why they lose, they're losers. And that's why as a man, you cannot let yourself be fooled by every pretty face you see, because if you do you will be always dealing with loser women. I am not saying you should date women you find are unattractive but you should not make looks the #1 priority, it should be #2. That way you avoid fucking the crazy chick or the time waster chick
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>>34427460
Yes they are but you'll never believe it until you can get past the atheistic lies you've been brainwashed with your entire life. Christ loved, and he has called us to love one another as he did. Yes love is real, but it requires faith in Christ.
You cannot experience love if you lack faith, and you cannot give love unless you have experienced the love of Christ. In either case I hope you seek out the Church because behind your question is a deep longing and suffering that modern society can only mollify with distractions and paper over.
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>>34428770
It’s unsettling to me because a long time ago I also met an e-girl, and we were friends for about two years before we ceased to talk. A month after we met on Discord, I gradually started to develop feelings for her after getting to know her story and personality. We both had things in common when it came to our personal struggles and how we couldn’t sort out our problems. She shared some pictures of her face, and I was incredibly astonished by how beautiful she was. But despite this, she never felt any romantic interest in me, nor did she ever consider me a potential long-term partner, even though for a while everything seemed to point to the opposite and there were signs that she was emotionally engaged with me. But in the end, she figured I'd be happier with a more like-minded girl. And that was after she had put me in a situation where I was making it clear to her that I really liked her. I had already tried it a few times before, and she had completely dismissed the idea, but this time she didn't react the way she had before.
I thought she would choose me, but considering that she had become colder and more reserved toward the end of our friendship, I figured there was a chance she might dismiss me. What hurt me wasn’t just the rejection—which was due to our incompatible viewpoints (something I had also realized but hadn’t given much thought to)—but the fact that she said she hoped to have a boyfriend soon. It was painful.
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>>34436005
I finally realized she was just looking for my attention and emotional validation. She didn’t care about my commitment or the feelings I harbored towards her. I wasn’t the first, and I won’t be the last; she had already sent photos of herself to other men on Discord, she had guys she could vent to about her personal and emotional problems, and she even had a virtual boyfriend before (who she later said wasn’t a big deal), and when I recently took a look at one of her accounts out of reminiscence, I found out she had an IRL boyfriend. I feel sorry for whoever he is, because now I think she was a shallow, boring, drug-addicted, Instagram-using bitch with no insightful personality or intellect. It was definitely a waste of time, and you’re ultimately right. Find the right person who you believe will permanently stay in your life—someone in whom you can truly invest your energy and time without any sort of ambiguity—and don’t go after sluts like these.
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>>34427460
Men and women are equally capable of love, they just express it differently. It's like asking if an English speaker and a French speaker are capable of having a conversation despite the linguistic differences. On the surface, they don't sound alike. Bystanders may only understand one but not the other, and may even dismiss the other as gibberish. On a deeper level however, all of their words revolve around the same commonly understood ideas, despite using different words for them. As long as both the English speaker understands French and the French speaker understands English to a workable degree, they both can understand each other despite their differences.
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>>34436185
Well put. And what a lot of men gotta understand is the minute you show at least as little as 1% of understanding French (aka female emotions and how they work), is the minute women will flock around you. Especially if you know how to have fun and play with emotional dynamics without ulterior motive. When you do that they will claw other women's eyes out, metaphorically, just to have you for themselves.