>>5116296 FUCK orcas Yeah theyre the oceans top predator with great intelligence and amazing hunting strategies But you know what? THEY SHOULDNT BE. THEY LOOK FUCKING RETARDED. They look like something I stick up my ass. A suppository. They look like Oreo brand bananas. They're just this lame, shapeless blob with stupid colors, making stupid sounds, with stupid blobby fins. Theyre like a childs drawing. They're muppets. Theres a reason every kid likes sharks and looks on orcas with complete indifference. Its not because of what they are and what they do, its because of how they look, its rule of cool. And orcas just aint cool lookin.
Kind of sucks that specialising on hunting cephalopods tends to result in losing most of your teeth. But also kind of amazing that there are something like three dozen species of large mammalian predators specialised on hunting cephalopods. Mostly whales, but also a few species of seals. There's a ridiculous number of squid in the ocean.
>>5116167 There are several Eskimo accounts from disparate areas reporting Narwhals turning on killer whales in self defence, charging and impaling them completely, then both corpses washing up on shore.
>>5116311 Whales are fish. So are crabs, starfish etc. The word fish, for over one and a half thousand years, has meant: 'anything that lives in the water'. Fish as we call them now were scalefish. I have read accounts from scientists in the 1700s who specifically point out that they are very genetically different even though they all share a name.
Humans are more closely related to cod, than cod are to sharks. The new definition of fish is presented as being more precise but really misrepresents things.
>>5115897 Isn't it crazy that an animal that needs to come to the surface to breathe somehow specializes in feeding on squid found deep in the depths where there's no light?
>>5115897 >>5116724 Fun fact about the squids: colossal squids basically stay motionless for much of their lives. They need to conserve all that energy for fighting/evading sperm whales.
>>5117223 It still bothers me they didn't call it Leviathan as they should have Livyatian sounds like a transvestite Kyiv/Türkiye/Myanmyar/Eswatini nu-name
>>5117597 >The discoverers originally assigned the English name of the biblical monster, Leviathan, to the whale as Leviathan melvillei. However, the scientific name Leviathan was preoccupied by Leviathan Koch, 1841, a junior synonym for the mastodon >In August 2010, the authors rectified this situation by coining a new genus name for the whale, Livyatan, from the original Hebrew name of the monster.
>>5117595 99.999999999999999999% of the time narwhals don’t/can’t fight back as their tusks aren’t for combat and can’t really be used that way. Not to say impaling another whale wouldn’t be possible but it would be a Hail Mary. Watch the documentary Invasion of the Killer Whales. It documents the receding ice in noufoundland or Greenland or something and how it used to be a sanctuary for narwhal to evade orcas but with less ice killer whales now inhabit that area year round and have all but genocided the narwhals in that area. At one point in the doc, there is a breeding colony of hundreds of narwhals in a cove and a pod of like 20 orcas come in and slaughter every one of them, hundreds of them leaving none alive, slaughtered every one of them so no I wouldn’t call narwhals a worthy adversary for killer whales. I watched hundreds get raped like it was fucking nothing by only a handful of orcas with my own eyes.
>>5118814 Every sea mammal gets wrecked by sperm whales due to their built in megasonar >pilot whales Maybe if the orcas are sleeping or outnumbered 20 to 1 >inb4 some r*ddit video Exceptions confirm the rule
>>5119957 >highly social So are orcas. And much bigger, stronger, smarter, and slightly faster than pilot whales >won't risk fucking with them Your original argument was >pilot whales wreck orcas Which is false, so now you're trying to backpedal to another equally false "argument" You are wrong in both cases >inb4 le watermark I literally don't care
>>5121679 No cetacean is that smart desu. Great apes are way smarter.
They all have low axonal conduction times and disorganized brains with tiny frontal bits mostly dedicated to sonar, 3d movement and automatic pod coordination
If they were smart they would be able to cooperate to free each other from nets and un-beach fellow whales
>>5116572 >The new definition of fish is presented as being more precise but really misrepresents things. You could just call fish non-tetrapods fishes like how we call dinosaurs non-avian dinosaurs
>>5117592 >"ERMMMM ACTCHUATSLLLY ITS A HECKING DOLPHINERINOS, MY BULL TOLD ME ABOUT THIS AFTER HE GOT ME A NINTENDO SWITCH FOR WATCHING HIM FUCK MY GF LIKE A GOOD LITTLE REDDITOR :)))))" Fucking kill yourself.
>>5116167 There are so many whales that it feels like never make it into nature docs. every time it’s the same blue/gray/humpback on the baleen side and orca/sperm on the tooth side. They never seem to talk about baird’s or bryde’s sei whales.
>>5119172 https://www.icelandic-orcas.com/post/orcas-and-pilot-whales-their-occurrence-and-interactions-in-iceland Retard, Orcas are sick but it's common sense in most predators to not risk getting injured when you can help it and pilot whales have repeatedly demonstrated mobbing behavior towards orcas in the Atlantic, causing the orcas to flee. Orcas can be extremely cool and still lose in fights. Fucking hell, other orcas get bodied by the Biggs but that doesn't make them any less cool. Godamned idiot
>>5122418 On the bright side you now have gigantic barnacle encrusted blade fins that you can slap almost anything in the ocean to death with, in addition to your classic powerful fluke
>anglos kill an unknown whale >splendid animal, looks carnivorous with a very recognizable head shape >stab it a few times >white liquid comes out >SPERM WHALE XDDDDDDDD Why are they like this
>>5116167 >sperm whales are carnivores It boggles my mind that a predator this fucking massive can exist. Its energetic requirements must be tremendous. And they supposedly subsist primarily on giant squid? Just how many squid are down there in the depths?
>>5130798 >Just how many squid are down there in the depths? Lots. Every see those videos of Humboldt squids? Imagine a sperm whale plowing through those.
>>5117223 My mind is boggled when I think about how modern sperm whales are comparable to giant beasts from past eras, and it'd be among the greatest of them. It's taken for granted how crazy it is that we still have something like the sperm whale existing today. We marvel at the many prehistoric giant badass counterparts of animals today, but the prehistoric giant badass counterpart of the sperm whale is the same size as the modern version.