>>5119010
>if it was just aggression, they wouldn’t bother to tear off the fin
that does make sense thought
what a bullshit article

>>5119023
did you read the rest of the paragraph? orcas tear off the fin during predation to access the softer body parts for consumption. That's how they hunt sharks, porpoises, other cetaceans, etc.

>>5119026
>That's how they hunt sharks, porpoises, other cetaceans, etc
It isn’t though. Large sharks have their abdominal cavity split open so the liver can be removed, while large cetaceans like minke whales have their tongues/lower jaw eaten. In both cases the rest of the body is discarded with fins intact. Smaller prey like porpoises are consumed entirely. If this was the result of cannibalism then the removal of dorsal fins is new behaviour

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>>5119050
You think this is the result of aggressive play rather than predation?...

>>5119054
this is what Megalodon did to orca ancestors back in the day

>>5119054
You say that as if orcas don’t regularly pummel other animals to death and rip them to shreds during play. Also I didn’t say that it wasn’t predation, just that if it is then it’s completely different behaviour to what we see when they hunt sharks, porpoises, etc

>>5119080
If it was predation, then it was cannibalism

>>5119010
>demonic
You mean based

Cannibalism is the thinking whale’s sport

>>5119010
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies
Like sperm whales and orcas
Or humpbacks and orcas
Or minke whales and orcas
Or orcas and other orcas
Damn orcas, they ruin the ocean!

>>5119121
do you also practice cannibalism?

>>5119054
why does it need to be just aggressive play, I bet there are situations where orcas just straight up murder each other for other reasons than eating the opponent. and tearing off fins seem like a great way to incapacitate another orca

>>5119134
that makes them sound even worse

>>5119010
There's nothing wrong with cannibalism.

>>5119103
I didn’t say that it wouldn’t be cannibalism if it was predation retard. Learn some reading comprehension

>>5119126
Are you also a whale?

>>5119221
yes, my name is Randy Fine

>>5119228
So what’s stopping you?

>>5119010
what an evil fish

Of course it's the ruskie orcas...

>>5119142
I don't see how that makes them different from any other animal, especially humans.
btw I'm not basing this on anything but I bet humans aversion to cannibalism is mostly a cultural thing, I bet grugg didn't give a shit about chomping on another human, or at least ones that didn't belong to his own tribe

>>5119297
It gives you prion disease

>>5119297
>I bet grugg didn't give a shit about chomping on another human, or at least ones that didn't belong to his own tribe
Neanderthals for one apparently preferred not to: there are a few examples of cannibalized remains, but they're rare and sloppily butchered (indicating far less experience at dressing the carcass than that of other animals), so it's unlikely to have been common and more probably only done in dire conditions where no other food was available, potentially on those who had already perished (not unlike what happened with the Donner party or Franklin expedition)

>>5119297
humans probably taste awful

>>5119297
>jews drink human blood from the child’s penis during bris
>Africans practice voodoo and eat their enemies / rival tribesmen
Outside of that I don’t think humans are cannibals at all, unless you’re climbing some uncharted mountain and get caught in an avalanche and have to eat your dead comrade to survive.

>>5119297
>bro they’re just like humans
We have to maintain nation scale societies or be killed/enslaved by people who do

Orca are atomized tribes of 80 IQ aquatic retards that our rich scientists like to jerk off to and may as well be any other fish

Whatever is natural or apparently logically the same between humans and orcas, morally, isn’t. What is acceptable or advantageous behavior for an orca is not and will never be conducive to human life.

>>5119314
That aside, habitual cannibals tend to be conquered or killed by other humans and only survive in isolation because humans dont want to be eaten, and prion diseases are a bitch.

>>5119347
The mexican dish posole, pic rel, used to be made with human meat.

The Spanish conquistadors made the natives switch to using pork. It was said that the taste of the posole did not change.

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>>5119385
Forgot pic

>>5119385
>>5119386
forgot about the Mayans

>>5119303
>>5119359
I thought prion disease only is a thing if you eat the brain

>>5119414
Yep, specifically from someone that already has it

>>5119010
sick fucks, same for everyone defending this behavior

>>5119010
They attack our yachts, and now this?

>>5119347
Victorians were really into eating mummies. And of course the medieval practice of eating the part of the body you had an illment on.

>>5119632
>Victorians were really into eating mummies.
Proof?

>>5119633
To correct the other anon, Europeans (not Victorians, but earlier) ate a lot of mummies as a "medicinal" practice. So many that it nearly depleted the world's supply of mummies, I believe. This happened for multiple centuries.
Here's the "proof" you wanted but this was easy to google:
https://explorersweb.com/why-rich-europeans-ate-up-all-the-egyptian-mummies/
https://theconversation.com/why-did-people-start-eating-egyptian-mummies-the-weird-and-wild-ways-mummy-fever-swept-through-europe-177551
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2540910?seq=1
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/mummy-eating-medical-cannibalism-gory-history
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/

>>5119639
Yeah this didn’t happen and if it somehow did it was jews. Just like the “white” slaver ships.

>>5119680
I mean if you wanna see it that way, that's fine, but it doesn't really add anything useful to the conversation.

>>5119680
>what an american education does to a mf

>>5119639
damn, Europeans are nasty. You'll never see a Chinese or Korean person doing that.

>>5119010
dayummm they really are just like us, I'm black btw

>>5119639
lol what a bunch of retards

>>5119962
I'm too autistic to pick up on sarcasm so I'll throw in that the Chinese loved to eat one another throughout history and wrote about it a lot, and North Korea had a famine in the 1990s that supposedly had everyone and his grandma munching on orphans.

>>5119962
>he hasn’t seen the chinese human butchers

>>5119743
That’s the exact opposite of what American education teaches tho.

>>5120266
Rather that's what a lack of education in America does. >>5119680 is most likely from the South where they view education as a librul conspiracy and thus have the worst reading/writing/math scores in the country. Funny thing is that that poster probably voted for that orange pedophile that's the biggest Jew enabler on the planet.

>>5120285
The slave ships actually were owned by jews. Also, kamala literally promised war with iran (and open borders) and was supportive of all the covid bullshit so imagine, for a second, believing america is a democracy. You do not get to choose. Your vote does not count. They can add or remove millions of votes at will. Non citizens vote. People vote multiple times. Dead people vote. Votes appear and vanish as needed. You do not live in a democracy. You have no power. You have no rights. Your rulers system is decentralized and utilizes hidden leadership. They are immune to political violence. You have no friends, no one is on your side, and no one is coming to save you. You lost. You are a serf.

When you accept this politics will make sense and you’ll stop being a bitch about redteam blueteam.

You are a serf.
All of you are purposefully oppressed. De-educated. De-industrialized. Replaced with labor scabs, so they can be replaced by labor scabs. You only exist to provide a moral justification for the financialized debt economy. Otherwise you’re a waste of air. If you ever produced something it would promptly be turned into corn farming or a useless tech company providing nothing of practical value except for surveillance and taxable rent and debt. Deal with it.

>>5120288
>The slave ships actually were owned by jews.
Proofs????

>>5120288
>The slave ships actually were owned by jews
what I don't get about this one, even if every single slave ship was owned by jews and every slaver was a jew and the entire slavetrade was a jewish business, it doesn't make the act of buying and keeping these slaves any better

>>5120310
Don't try and make sense of incel logic. They literally got it from a /pol/troon infographic. I know exactly the one. I've never seen any credible source and we won't see one ITT

>>5120326
>White people did not invent slavery and weren’t the sole people to blame for slavery. Every ethnic and religious group did the same thing. We should let the past be the past instead of trying to use historical tragedy to justify racial hatred.
>INCEL NONSENSE! WHITE MEN ARE THE PROBLEM!
With leftists like this running around trump is guaranteed a third and fourth term solely because no one on the blue team is willing to put freaks like you in their place. Thank you for supporting ULTRA MAGA!

If you mald at this post don will bomb tehran again

>>5120328
See what I mean? 2 posts I've brought up talking about a source and the incel still can't provide one.

>>5120336
Repeat after me:
White people did not invent slavery and weren’t the sole people to blame for slavery. Every ethnic and religious group did the same thing. We should let the past be the past instead of trying to use historical tragedy to justify racial hatred

Libs: owned
Trump: elected
America: great again
Israel: safe
Iran: bombed
Palestine: imaginary
Animal cruelty: federal crime
Our bacon: saved
Wolves: shot
Bears: blasted
Cougars: capped
Fish: bout yea big
Leaves: raked
Lawn: mowed
Nature: doing ok after a brief recovery period
Yep, it’s freedom time.

USA USA USA USA

>>5120337
3 posts. You'd think he'd provide one already just to shut me up but lolnope

>>5120351
what about the orcas?

>>5119054
>aggressive play
Nobody said it was play you colossal retard

>>5119010
Well they're not called sparer whales...

>>5119054
This could be taken as evidence of orcas engaging in warfare to eradicate a competing pod. We already know chimps do it and orcas have similar mental capacity.

>>5119103
No it wouldn’t be cannibalism because resident and Bigg’s killer whales are different species. That’s like saying a coyote eating a pomeranian is cannibalism

>>5120698
no, they aren't. at most they're subspecies but even that's not officially recognized.

>>5120698
it's more like a Kodiak bear preying on a Grizzly bear...

>>5120818
They were upgraded to full species status, OP’s article even references it
>>5121148
More like a grizzly preying on a black bear

>>5121156
>They were upgraded to full species status, OP’s article even references it

No, they weren't. Some biologists want them separated into different species or subspecies, but others have rejected it and there's no official recognition yet.

>>5121158
>No, they weren't
They were
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2892092/
>there's no official recognition yet
A new species is “recognised” when enough people agree on it, most agree that they deserve full species status. There is no scientific monolith that officially recognises all new species. Even if there were, the genetic evidence is pretty solid. The fact they don’t interbreed despite overlapping in range should have been a pretty obvious indicator

>>5121178
This paper is over 15 years old and there's still only one recognized orca species, so clearly not enough people agree with their arguments

It’s just socioeconomic factors chud

>>5121183
>This paper is over 15 years old
He’s correct. A paper was also published in 2024 confirming that they’re different species

>>5121360
It didn't "confirm" shit. Society for Marine Mammalogy still only recognizes one species of orca.

>>5121375
The paper literally confirms that they’re morphologically, genetically and behaviourally distinct. The society for marine mammalogy doesn’t officially determine taxonomic recognition for every described species either. That sort of thing doesn’t exist. Also the only reason that they don’t recognise it yet is because they only got a 2/3 vote to name them as new species when they needed a unanimous vote, so even then the majority believe they’re distinct species

>>5121378
If it were officially recognized, some sperg would've updated Wikipedia by now to reflect that, but Wikipedia only lists on orca species.

>>5121379
As I said there is no single authority that officially recognises new species. Also whether or not they do doesn’t change the fact that they are observably different. Come back in 10 years and see if it’s the same
>wikipedia
lol
lmao

>>5121379
Do you think the genetic divergence between the two species only poofs into existence once they’re recognised by a random institution?

Orcacels ITT absolutely seething

>>5121786
>>5121392
If you think Wikipedia inaccurately reflects the current scientific consensus, you can update it right now.

>>5119010
Doesn't surprise me. They commit infanticide too.

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>>5119962
You were angling for this weren’t you?

>>5122534
I did not know about this

>>5119026
>orcas tear off the fin during predation to access the softer body parts for consumption.
I don't get where the "scientists" behind this study got this, it is famously well known that Orcas have really weird food preferences, with the lips, tongue and genitals being their favorite, none of which requires to rip the fins to gain access to. And if orcas were cannibals, we'd likely have some direct reports of it.
Not that its impossible, just, seems like a leap.

>>5123141
>And if orcas were cannibals, we'd likely have some direct reports of it.

Not true at all. It's very hard to get direct observations of this kind of stuff. Orca infanticide wasn't observed until fairly recently.

>>5123162
>It's very hard to get direct observations of this kind of stuff.
Orcas have followed and interacted with whalers for centuries now, its not an animal we have very little observation of. Obviously, it could be the kind of behavior that for some reason they never display in front of humans, but in that case we might find remains inside an orca (although, as I write this, orcas were never hunted widely, and if this is not a common occurence then the odds of one dying with remains inside and be found may be very low). It just seems like a weird leap from finding a ripped fin. And also, why would that explains remaining in a pod, over all the advantages of pack hunting and living? There's at least half a dozen other explanations to this, with the simplest being that orcas can also have mental issues and display violent sociopathic tendencies, and that this is the work of a single psycho whale out for blood.

>>5123214
>Orcas have followed and interacted with
whalers for centuries now, its not an animal we have very little observation of

You do realize no one gave a shit about orcas until the 1950s, right? Most fishermen thought of them as a pest. They weren't thought of as particularly intelligent or interesting until they were held in captivity starting in the 1950s and studied more up close.

>>5123232
We have reports of Orca pods cooperating with whalers in hunts as early as the 1860s. "They eat their own kind" isn't an observation that requires a highly developed scientific mind, some Nascau 2500 years ago could have witnessed it.
> As pest
maybe for a Norwegian.

>>5123238
Have any 19th century whalers written about your life? No? I suppose you do not exist then

>>5121891
>scientific consensus
You mean the scientific consensus that they are different species? There is not a single paper that argues for subspecies status like the society for marine mammalogy currently lists them as, all the literature argues for full species status

>>5123238
then how come orca infanticide wasn't directly observed until recently? it's not all that different and perhaps an even more clear-cut case of intraspecific aggression

>>5122534
Decisive Tangy victory

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>>5119385
>It was said that the taste of the posole did not change.

>>5121846
If you don't like orcas you're a non
>>5120296
>proofs
Nta but If jewgle doesn't show you any results use another search engine. I have read the documents and some of the ship owenrs' bios, and it checks out. There is that famous book too, but I would adivise you to actually read the primary sources. jews were heavily involved in the trans-Atlantic slave trade from the very beginning. Spanish and Portuguese jews (also known as conversos or marranos) handled the South. Curaçao was one of their main HQs. Dutch and English jews handled the North, that's what the other anon is referring to. I don't know much about French jews or their involvement so I can't speak about it.

>>5120359
>kvetching
>too stupid to actually do reasearch
>expects to be spoonfed
>acts passive aggressive
>kvetching again
It's almost too easy with you 'people'

>>5119639
>That Futurama bit was real
Lel

>>5120285
The poor scores in the south are almost entirely a demographics issue, I'd imagine you'd see similar or worse trends in Washington DC (despite being the "jewel" of the "North")

>>5123849
You're defending cannibals?

>>5124133
Are you White or brown?
That is what matters

>>5119010
Not surprised. It is a fish, after all.

>>5123850
>STILL can't provide a source almost a half month later
Kekarooni!

>>5124570
>>oy vey do my research goy
Kek you made the argument, not me. It's your job to back up your incel claims. But I know you can't.

Anyway, this has gone on long enough. Concession accepted.

>>5124718
You can cohencede all you want moshi, doesn't make what I said any less true

>>5124757
...yes it does.
A complete lack of source means you are pulling shit out of your ass.

>>5124788
>still kvetching
Just yandex it or something
I gave enough hints

>>5124757
You made a claim and one simple question anally raped and gaped you for all eternity. MANY such cases when arguing with incels like yourself.

Reply to me again to confirm I am correct in this assessment.

>>5125199
>another one
Again, I don't work for hooknoses
Reply to this post to confirm the talmud is denounced as fake and gay

>>5124806
You cant support your point because it is wrong.

>>5125316
The more (you) kvetch, the more convinced I am I'm right
I have also read the documents, so there's that too

>>5125317
The more you show complete inability to cite anything, the more the world sees that you are lying.

>>5125320
>the world is reading this thread
Oy vey let me put on my nice Sunday suit before posting
>you're lying
I'm not, but I also don't work for j*ws. You 'people' seem to be very thick and need to be told several times apparently

>>5125323
>blah blah pointless seething
>no citation
You cant back up what you said because what you said was a lie. And everyone can see it.

>>5125325
>everyone
Oy gevalt that's another logical fallacy my low verbal iq jude
Did you take your tay-sachs meds today?

>>5121379
You may in fact actually be a retard, my friend

>>5125404
I just asked AI and it told me: "Scientifically, there is only one officially recognized species of orca (Orcinus orca)."

>>5119010
Orcas are vicious demons that kill and torture porpoises and seals for fun

>>5119054
It's either predation or homicide. We can't rule just eating habits; orcas may be inclined to murder their foes.

>>5119054
that's a bigass fin

>>5119010
Orcas are so lame. I'd rather have mosasaurs or livyathan back.

>>5124806
>I gave enough hints
There’s a reason why “people” like you are hunted down and forced to dig their own graves in every civil war

>>5119010
Hannibal Lecter ass animal

>>5128270
>2 more weeks
Piss-poor counterargument but let's just go with it:
Who will hunt us down in your impotent fantasy?
And why do you think we're not the hunters? Would you feel safe in a civil war? What about your family?
Think long and hard before replying. Call your attorney if you have to.

>>5119050
>Large sharks have their abdominal cavity split open so the liver can be removed
>>5128748
>Hannibal Lecter ass animal

"I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti." - Orca

test

>>5129779
lel

>>5119010
I always found these creatures to look super spooky. That white long oval shape by their eyes always looked to me like it was their eyes and they were that big. Of course I know now this wasn't the case but the color of these animals, the size, what we know of their intelligence, it all makes for such a spooky animal.

>>5130351
their eyes do look creepy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-CEMOXiGPg
POV: the last thing you see as a seal

>>5130799
being a seal in the wild sounds like it really sucks when you're among the most common targets for orcas, sharks, polar bears, etc and even on land you might get killed by wolves or lions

>>5130799
the orcas mentally torture those poor seals

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