>>5121513 >everyone compares women to cats and foxes >birds dont like women >hmmm no idea why Birds also think women are reminiscent of cats and foxes (predators of birds)
Men are like lions, bears, wolves, and great apes. Birds don’t have as much to fear from them.
>>5121513 I'm thinking it might be some pigment in their makeup on a visual wavelength birds can see but we can't. Or it could be fragrances lot of them sting the nostrils. Birds don't have a great sense of smell but it might be something they are sensitive to.
>>5121636 Pretty sure they controlled for factors like that. They even made sure the women in the study weren't menstruating at the time of observation.
>>5121740 it's not JUST when they're bleeding that there is a smell difference I have been with the same woman for 14 years and at one point in her period cycle that ISN'T when she's bleeding, she smells so fuckable it's unreal. Put my face up against her and inhale and I feel that primal urge to fuck. It's not strong (to a human nose) but the hormonal cycle can make them smell different even to us.
>>5121757 that vid of a horse just casually hoovering up a chick always sticks with me
>>5121867 >Both members of the collector pairs were coordinated at each site before the fieldwork to minimize as many interpersonal discrepancies in the methodology as possible. Tells me that the women weren't wearing makeup or fragrances.
>>5121740 They controlled for it during the tests but that doesn't mean it can't still have an influence. If the birds dislike makeup/perfume/women's clothing/whatever, they could still dislike women even who aren't wearing those just by association.
>>5121530 birds also see into the UV spectrum and makeup reflects UV, makeup would likely make women very frightening looking for a bird. note that it doesnt apply inside since interior lighting doesn't have UV and glass windows filter UV light. Same deal with reptiles, take a reptile you've known for years inside to play outside and you will look completely different to it.
>>5121528 >>5121595 I'm a dude and not a troon, but when I was younger some lady had a dog that hated men and would bark at them, but he was cool with me. Sometimes these 'sexist' animals have blurry lines.
>>5121513 Males are the base body for our species. Birds acknowledge this fact, so when they see a woman they freak out because they look like a disproportional form of the human shape. This is the same reason why trans are so weird looking too.
>>5122934 Because hunter gatherers were mostly men and would hunt these animals down. But birds often even cooperate with humans and learned to appreciate our presence.
>>5122936 Yes wolves prefer women for smaller statures, softer voices etc but cats prefer women because they are calmer and gentler >>5122938 Not to eat
>>5122936 >But birds often even cooperate with humans and learned to appreciate our presence If you're using this logic of birds preferring men because they cooperated with them then dogs should prefer men too because they were used for hunting alongside men, but studies prove that dogs are more attentive to female voices
>>5122944 Are you stupid? Wolves never hunted among men. lmaao that's a fucking myth. They became domestic because they're opportunistic and would join in for free meals.
>>5123009 >Provide the fucking evidence that wolves and hunter gatherers were cooperating prior to domestication. >Cooperating prior to domestication You're genuinely fucking retarded bro
>>5122944 > but studies prove that dogs are more attentive to female voices I’d like to see the studies in question because it makes my buddy’s wife seethe to no end that I can command their dogs and she cannot, so I’m skeptical.
>>5123009 >>5123015 To be fair, human-acclimated wolves logically needed to exist before domesticated dogs, and I don't imagine traits conducive for hunting were selected for BEFORE that inflection point, let alone consciously.
Still, I'm not aware of any studies that prove which happened first.
>>5123221 Humans and wolves convergently evolved gaze following and sufficiently similar facial expressions and hierarchical cooperative behavior based on family units. Both are mammals, both occupy the apex predator niche, both have a high need for meat under natural conditions, only humans require fattier meat not to die and wolves don’t just prefer lean meat, they die if they eat too much fat.
It would be unlikely for humans NOT to naturally start cooperating with wolves. Our species are extremely similar and coincidentally set up to share the fruits of our hunts. Wolves are also amazing natural pest control and security. A few wolves in your tribe would kill every disease spreading small mammal in a five mile radius and chase off other predators.
>>5123076 They're definitely more "attentive", it's probably the higher pitched register (and women are more likely to do the "doggy voice"), they do that head tilt etc
Doesn't necessarily mean they "obey" better, but women's voices are vocally more interesting to dogs
"Ancient DNA evidence suggests that dogs were domesticated before the rise of agriculture, when hunter-gathers preyed on large animals. Dogs are the only animals that were domesticated during this period – all other domestication happened after farming became widespread."