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>THEYRE NOT MANIPULATING THE FUTURES!!!11

Trump is such a commietrannie his manipulating prediction markets kek. You think he's not all in on controlling "markets" and oil too?

Capitalism always win btw.

WTI peak price and when, tell now

just make me money anons!!

>>62106240
completely schizophrenic first post, bad omen.

>>62106247
Yes I'm sure none of the information from last week, which was the most eventful week in years, at all affected the price of predictions and in fact they remained totally flat for the first time in the markets history.

What an assclown you are.

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We better be BLOOD FUCKING RED all of next week, back down to $630 minimum.

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>nyse
>nasdaq
>cboe
>cme
OPEN THE DOOR OR I WILL END YOU

the talks confirm Iran is trying build nukes which means the war is justified

>>62106248
>remained totally flat for the first time in the markets history.
Lol, how long has this poll been up, a few months? It's completely reasonable. These are low liquidity books.

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>>62106253
>starting a war rigth next to Pakistan, who also has nukes

Hello anons. Wagie here. I have been sleepwalking through investing for a while. Just buying VOO at a steady rate weekly and YOLOing into shitty stocks and ETFs that either barely made me anything or sunk. Any tips on investing in a way that can actually lead to financial freedom for someone who doesn't have time daily to do super deep research into fast price changes but who does have time to invest for several decades and absorb some risk?
Right now I have a shit ton of VOO and some XDTE and that's about it

>>62106253
>trying
how hard can it be
what is there to try?
you either do or dont, no?

>>62106240
Kek

>>62106259
I imagine getting the uranium unburied and enriched to weapons grade then building the nukes is rather difficult without intervention hence the war before they were able to

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>>62106258
Just trade the winners anon. ez

If you were the President of the United States, how would you CRUSH, HUMILIATE and send Iran to the STONE AGE, where they deserve to be?

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totally historic, financially speaking

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>>62106256
>obvious trolling/bait

>>62106258
>Just buying VOO at a steady rate weekly
VOO and other ultra diversified etfs are terrible to make money
normies and dummies overestimate the safety side of it and end up just leaving shit ton of money for no fucking reason

just invest into obvious winners in already well formed and have estimated high growth
everyone overestimates how "smart" the market is, most stuff are fairly undervalued
especially in discount season when prices go lower purely due to macro
i.e tariffs, oil price surge, covid and so on

just buy shit like tsm, googl and you will outperform stupid shit like VOO all the time,
they look too obvious so dummies assume they can't be that simple to just pick these and overperform

but yeah, it is unironically this simple

>>62106240
Obviously. the way Oil and Stockmarket are moving is to secure midterms after this fuckup war. He knows, if the market is up, he can sell every american's daughter to the cartels for a bag of coke and they won't have an issue as long as the S&P is at ATH.

>>62106273
>obvious trolling/bait

>>62106258
>Any tips on investing in a way that can actually lead to financial freedom for someone who doesn't have time daily to do super deep research into fast price changes but who does have time to invest for several decades and absorb some risk?
>Right now I have a shit ton of VOO and some XDTE and that's about it
you're not going to do much better than VOO and chill unless you do a lot more research
90% of professional money managers fail to beat the market, meaning just buying voo every month beats basically everything.
if you're doing something other than that, you are implicitly trying to beat the market.

the problem is that right now, everything else is trading like a risk asset. so there isn't really any other option. you can play with international stocks too if you want.
here's what I do. AVUV, AVLV for american value companies. and SCHB which is essentially the same as voo or vti. then some SCHG because who knows if growth will still outperform. it might.
then AVDV AVIV And SCHF for international.
if you want to be super normal, then just do SCHB and SCHF. the vanguard version is voo/vti and then VEA I believe for international developed. I ignore emerging markets because they all suck other than china and china will not do well in the future (it is also not doing well now).

>>62106278
>VOO
>ultradiversified
I understand what you are saying but some might say s&p 500 isn't diversified enough as it's 100% us stocks and very tech heavy at that. Not much difference between holding that and the nasdaq 100 these days performance wise. True diversification requires putting your money into those private credit funds where you can't withdraw and other alternative investments.

>>62106278
>just buy shit like tsm, googl and you will outperform stupid shit like VOO all the time,
>they look too obvious so dummies assume they can't be that simple to just pick these and overperform
>but yeah, it is unironically this simple
you could just do QQQ or SCHG if you want to go that route
the obvious stocks will stop working at some point, and then you'll be living laughing and loving diversification
and I think there's a good chance the mag7 and others are about to fail to deliver or at least underperform

why do drones explode, wouldn't it be more cost effective if they shot? is that not feasible for some reason?

>>62106285
>90% of professional money managers fail to beat the market, meaning just buying voo every month beats basically everything
I may not beat the market but I'm not a wagie either. So what's that worth?

>>62106269
Give the Israelis even more nuclear warheads, beyond the ones they already got in the 60s. Then pretend like you had nothing to do with it and the Israelis are just a loose cannon cop that doesn't play by the rules.
LMT makes warheads, invest now

>>62106293
less than doing nothing (voo and chill)

>>62106292
the reason is exactly to keep them as cheap as possible
drone is a very broad term too, those you're thinking about are basically a very affordable version of a missile

>>62106293
>>90% of professional money managers fail to beat the market, meaning just buying voo every month beats basically everything
>I may not beat the market but I'm not a wagie either. So what's that worth?
well I beat the market last year by basically making my own index fund. heavily diversified, just a normal 100% long stock only portfolio. picking stocks with a buy and hold mentality, that's pretty much it.
but most people won't beat the market. and they can't handle the risk, and don't have the ability to sell and time the market, as well as get back in

so literally just buy and hold DCA VOO will be the best option for braindead normies. most people don't have the emotional toughness or intellect/skills to do better. if you think you can do better, then go ahead and try. if you lose money, then take that as a lesson, and go back to boglehead strats. it's not a bad way to do it

>>62106297
the problem with voo and chill is you need to have the money to chill on first
active trading is trying to extract short term gains from the market to lock into passive strategies

>>62106253
And you can't do shit about tranny.

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>>62106297
>less than doing nothing (voo and chill)
Factually incorrect and goypilled. How's a goy going to voo and chill AND pay his bills WITHOUT waging?

>>62106303
Lower your tone little man

>>62106292
>why do drones explode, wouldn't it be more cost effective if they shot? is that not feasible for some reason?
there are drones that shoot missiles or drop bombs, but they are way more expensive
most drones are just cruise missiles in disguise, or flying bombs.
rather than a drone ship that shoots missiles, then comes back to base to get more missiles.

we now have drones that sortie drones. drone carriers. and drones that drop landmines then come back to base to get more.
we had drones that shoot missiles for quite some time, 20 years or more. the MQ Reaper, though that was an extremely expensive overbuilt nonsense machine, 30 million a pop IIRC. it should be 1 million, or much much less. maybe like 100k for a basic drone plane that can shoot missiles

>>62106269
Send them the people in the west that support them, trannies, leftists and orthodox jews
Make them live with them for 5 minutes and iran would surrender to any demands america asks for

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>>62106301
>just a normal 100% long stock only portfolio
>literally you
Why does this guy get to spew his opinion on cnbc everyday doing the same thing, except his fund doesn't beat the market? I'm just pointing out there it a dollar value in your time not spent in the wage cage.

>>62106269
Send in Barney Rubble and Steve Witkoff to negotiate HARD

>>62106258
Be a contrarian and make your own investing decisions. I bought BABA at $65, a South Korean ETF in April last year, a Chinese ETF two years ago and Petrobras and a Brazilian ETF in June of last year, all of which people made fun of me for. Now I'm buying Adobe hand over fist (and getting mocked for it).
Wall Street doesn't know shit about what's going to happen and you can easily beat the market by ignoring their biases and thinking for yourself.

>>62106317
I know very huge portfolio managers that are more retarded than most people here
really, there is a reason people invest by themselves, most funs are retarded, and the non retarded ones will end up retarded soon enough

if anon fucks up at least it is his own fault instead of someone else destroying your money

>>62106317
>Why does this guy get to spew his opinion on cnbc everyday doing the same thing, except his fund doesn't beat the market?
good question
>I'm just pointing out there it a dollar value in your time
Yeah, some people can beat the market, but most don't.
it's even worse for day traders. 98% of them lose money.
so the voo and chill advice is pretty reasonable for almost everyone. Unless and until you learn every single painful lesson of all the ways you can lose money, and stop making those mistakes. but most people can't handle that. not enough emotional maturity to be honest with themselves.

>>62106322
funds*

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>>62106317
>I'm just pointing out there it a dollar value in your time not spent in the wage cage
I guess if I'm personally going to evolve to the next level myself, I should stop pointing things like this out and just picrel. Does me no good trying to wake the goys and at this point, I'm tired of trying.

This ceasefire is the same as North and South Korea's ceasefire. So buy calls

>>62106300
>>62106307
>drone is a very broad term too, those you're thinking about are basically a very affordable version of a missile
yeah the ones I always see war footage of, why don't they just fly around with some auto aim sniper

>>62106305
you just said you don't beat the market, so it's 'factually' less than doing nothing (voo and chill). If you have enough capital you can live off voo and chill. Otherwise, you'll need skill.

>>62106329
>yeah the ones I always see war footage of, why don't they just fly around with some auto aim sniper
good question. I think it's harder to aim
so they just make drones with bombs, then crash them into the target
rather than trying to aim with a gun
I think there are some more expensive drone designs that have a gun which auto aims.

>>62106292
There are drones with tubes loaded with shotgun shells and operate like a recoilless rifle, mainly used to hunt other drones dedicated to recon
As for strapping a rifle or gun to it and having it be accurate, would dictate a larger drone than the kamikaze fpv's currently in use or greater technology advancement with imaging optics, ai and noise reduction to make small handgun drones feasible, drones sound like fucking high pitched chainsaws buzzing through the air, which is more suitable for explosives
they should make a face hugger drone that drives a pneumatic bolt through your skull like no country for old men

>>62106292
Drones killing people is meh. Blowing expensive shit up is more valuable.

>>62106323
>voo and chill advice is pretty reasonable for almost everyone
Again you are still missing my point. By the time you get to enjoy that money you have spent 40 years behind a desk pushing papers for somebody else. The appreciation on your voo at that point is just a "thank you for contributing to social security all these years goy, couldnt have done it without you" reward. Yes those stats about traders might be accurate, but anon was asking about taking more risk, not confirmation as to why his current wagie life and boomer investment strategy are "fine for most people". I'm just letting anon know why people choose to do this and that it's not as simple as "if you don't beat the market you shouldn't do it". approach. Problem is he might stop thinking like a goy and the world runs on goys so you know we can't have too many goyim knowing or else they will have to SHUT IT DOWN

>>62106328
I don't think there's a ceasefire anymore since the terms weren't agreed to

>>62106339
>and that it's not as simple as "if you don't beat the market you shouldn't do it".
but it is exactly that simple

STRAIT WARS NOW

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>>62106329
>you just said you don't beat the market
My equity curve does the talking. Is the answer to just VOO and chill for me? I'm up 4.13% ytd so currently I am beating the market, but what I'm saying is it's not always about that. Looking at my equity curve is the simple answer to just voo and chill? And have you ever psychologically been all in before while it's going against you? Not so easy to chill sometimes. So Idk. You tell me man.

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>Futures

>>62106351
>My equity curve does the talking. Is the answer to just VOO and chill for me?
Definitely, yes and not doing so has cost you over half a million dollars. And if that massive gap up and down wasn't from additional deposits/withdrawals but instead leveraged trading, you're running a risk of waking up to your portfolio being down 50% or more - in which case, your bearing much more risk for much less return.

I'm honestly not sure why you thought posting your equity curve helped your case. You should definitely be VOO and chillin'.

Trans rights

>>62106249
Markets won't flinch, the war and even the end of the petrodollar is priced in now

>>62106359
What about heat death of the universe

>>62106355
>has cost you over half a million dollars.
Failed to mention I conviently don't have to pay the IRS for the next half a million. Why don't you cash out some of that voo you been chilling on to live? Again it's not that simple. You aren't up as much as you think you are after accounting for your unrealized tax. I prepaid my tax so what?. I'm gonna make it and then some and spend it in the economy and that's my contribution to society. If you are telling me to keep waging like a goy for another $500k when you see what I have, then I'm good. You can have it wagie. See im not so greedy after all! I'm not such a bad guy! You wagies are greedier than I am!

>>62106359
holy /pol/ brainrot

>>62106355
>And if that massive gap up and down wasn't from additional deposits/withdrawals
See you are a new janny then, because i posted my wins and my losses at the time. Thanks for the lecture dad! Think it'll finally stick this time! Who is really the know it all here? Me or you? It's not so simple.

>>62106361
>What about heat death of the universe
priced in to the terminal value of all companies
there's an astrophysicist who works at the NYSE, and he runs the numbers weekly
adjusts the stock prices
it's all very serious. and it's all priced in. ALL. PRICED. IN.

>>62106362
I'm not a wagie, but why are you saying you don't have to pay taxes? Your final equity is essentially the same as your starting equity in the graph you showed, so an average annual profit of ~0%. So no, I would not recommend continuing this strategy over voo and chill, and I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

If you want to stay at exactly the same amount of money you have now though, your current method seems to be working well.

>>62106366
You are brain rotted, good luck out there.

I've made my best investment decision based on the cryptic message I found in my broker account second factor authentication token.
Based random walk hypothesis

$700 is the final boss of SPY, will not be defeated

>>62106369
>Your final equity is essentially the same as your starting equity in the graph you showed
It's +14.45%. NET OF TAX, aka my tax bill has been paid on all gains in that account and the large losses are now capital losses that carry forward to offset future gains. So within that +14.45% is a $500k tax payment for 2024 and a $600k capital loss carry forward in 2025 that is now more like $500k with 2026 gains so far.

Compare to say +30-35% spy performance during same 2 year period. You havent paid your tax on that yet and you aren't accounting for your monthly sale of shares that needs to happen to pay your bills each month, so it's not actually +35% now is it? Meanwhile you still work like a goy telling yourself that it's all worth it and one day you will get to enjoy those gains. If you could give me one of those cushy boomer do nothing $250k a year jobs then sure why not, but if you are telling me I'm worth $50k then fuck you faggot.

>>62106369
>You are brain rotted,
says the retard who thinks +14% on a million dollars is the same as unchanged. Listen I understand you probably studied very hard to be the janny for this board, and it probably bothers you that you have to spend you time talking to retards like me, but you see you chose the job so you gotta do what you agreed to do. And I will finish by saying that is the difference between my trading from 2024 until now and there is value in that.

>>62106375
If that spike and drop in your equity curve represents actual trade volatility, you’re running way too much risk, are you not? Are you risking a move like that to the downside at any time that would cut your port in half? If so, whatever you’re doing seems extremely dangerous and non-viable to me.


IDK what your tax situation is like either, that varies depending on country. All I see is an essentially flat equity curve with a weird mesa in the middle.

Income is like anything else in that it’s good to have a diverse portfolio. I don’t withdraw from my account to pay bills, but waging isn’t the only alternative for that. But if you wanted to, you could run income producing strategies (eg, wheel) on top of whatever you’re doing.

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>Sending these two soulles jews and JD Cuck to try and make peace with Islamist extremists
They had no intentions of making concessions, just demanded Iran to give up completely, which of course they wouldn't do.
Now they can point the finger and say "See, their demands are obviously because they're evil and terrorists! What we're doing is right and good for the world!"
What will happen though when the 60 day window is over and this "operation" becomes illegal?

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>futures

>>62106383
>But if you wanted to, you could run income producing strategies (eg, wheel) on top of whatever you’re doing.
At the end of the day even the wheel is a bullish/neutral position that struggles in prolonged downturns. What happens when you are out of cash secured puts to sell and the call premium at the strikes you want to sell are for candy bar money because the stock has slid too much? Granted that's a doomsday scenario that assumes you didn't manage risk prior, but still you get my point. There's no free lunch in this market. Voo and chill, wheel, scalping futures, scalping 0dtes, leaps, whatever. They all have their own pros and cons. But you know all this already.

>fake ceasefire yet again
>nothing changes
>my portfolio drops 30% on that bullshit

What annoys me the most is that I know I wont make up my losses even after the negotiations failed.
It's annoying to lose money, but it's more annoying to be right and lose money

At what level of the strategic oil reserve will they lose the ability to manipulate the market? They won't ever letting it run completely dry, right?

>>62106391
The wheel was just one popular out of many often used for income, but it can be ran bearishly too. My point was more that income for personal expenses can come from an income specific portfolio/strategy to keep the primary portfolio tax advantaged, or from non-market sources like a business.

You didn’t answer my question about the risk you’re running though. Are you exposed to that massive spike ever going the wrong way?

>>62106387
>What will happen though when the 60 day window is over and this "operation" becomes illegal?
we just end the war and start it again
there's no wash sale on selling your war, and buying back a similar one a day later
So we declare war on iran's proxies. and then iran joins
and then we need to defend our assets in the region.
how dare they put their country right next to all of our bases, and our aircraft carriers

>>62106292
You don't have to aim with an explosion, just dive into the general area of the target and explode.

>>62106389
Imagine the smell in that room

>>62106383
>income producing strategies
My favorite one is GET IN THERE AND SWING SOME MOTHER FUCKING CONTRACTS NIGGA and after years of research I learned that people with many more zeros than me do the same thing and are actually relying on goys like me to open the position "for" them in a sense, for them to come sweep the book later (hopefully giving me a few points and leaving room for them to also make a few points). You ever notice how when you get filled it almost always continues to trade right through your price? Gotta leave some juice for the guys filling your orders. But this isn't something goyim know anything about.

>>62106398
>but it can be ran bearishly too
The short wheel? Idk just seems easier to take /CL for a few 10ths of a point or /yes for a few points

>>62106396
You werent right though

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Why are the oilies allowed to trade right now?

gawd damn local escorts are charging 350 eur/hour for an outcall
might have to invest in jerkingoff computer

>>62106398
>keep the primary portfolio tax advantaged,
I'll pay the tax, just let me make it first. You boomers want me to worry about shit that hasn't even happened yet with absolutely no guarantees or even likelihood to happen.
>Gotta keep that portfolio safe for your next of kin
What next of kin? Nigga that's why I'm actively trading instead of waging like a goy and contributing to social security
>Keep the account tax advantaged
Just give me a million dollars and let me worry about the tax. Give me multiple years of a million dollars and then maybe I'll start really strategizing on tax efficiency. But again why? For what purpose? For what next of kin? What do I care? And tell why I should fucking care.

>>62106415

Sad

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>>62106417
Who are you replying to?

>>62106419
You, talking to me about income producing strategies that assume I care about "tax advantaged". You realize if I don't have anyone that I care about to give the money to, then I also don't care about a step up in basis or remaining tax advantaged right? Again I just don't think you are as smart as you think you are. Take it from me. From one retard to another. As unimpressed you are with me, I am with you as well.

>>62106387
Don't Americans think its strange how Trump's son in law and golf buddy are the people doing the whole foreign policy? Its kinda clown tier ngl.

>>62106407
Unless the strait is open, I was.

>>62106423
You were blabbing off about taxes for an entire paragraph or two, so it seems you do care. Not sure why you’re sperging out. Minimizing taxes maximizes returns, all else equal. I’m not sure where giving away the money comes into the picture here for you, it’s a non-factor.

You do worse than voo and chill and don’t understand this for some reason.

>>62106426
The market is not a bet on the strait being open or closed any given day. If you were unprofitable you were ultimately wrong, no?

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>>62106270
Was he booed?

>btc down 2%
>tranny in op
what happened

>>62106439
>>btc down 2%
Where do you think you are, pall?

>>62106442
the market is closed retardits the only indicator over thr weekend

>>62106258
Buy emergent market.
Buy stock that pay dividends.
Buy REITs.

>BTC risk indicator
smigger moment

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>>62106445
I'm just gonna say it's a shit indicator then

>>62106442
I'm not your pall, budy

>>62106258
Diversify with global EFT excluding US
Add another EFT for emergent markets if you want.
65% sp 500
25% global excluding us
10% emergent
Go on with your life knowing you will be a millionaire in 20 years.

do not insult trannies.....

Death to the up and to the right faggot. Thankfully he'll live under a bridge soon enough, we won't have to read his retardation making 20% of the thread's post count.

>>62106461
Or else...

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>weather getting good enough for the sloots to start wearing short shorts again in public, hmmm, bullish for enticing primal urges. I might join a pilates class on a hot day to delight in the musk of sweatty pussy.
This WILL make me a better trader (look up the link between trading and testosterone)

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>>62106461
do it I dare you

https://youtu.be/zAHxAD6X-Ng?si=7BEJOHPtkCEOJABL

So, what Will happen late Sunday/early monday? Every fucking week my PNL was unreal, making a shitton of money, then comes the taco and Lost most gains. He Will post something on truth social and Will make oil Crash and stocks pump, right?

>>62106479
thats a man

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Surprised they didn't make it last for longer. I mean, imagine, you control the narrative. The ups and downs. All through your pals Axios. You can thus tell your pals a few minutes beforehand the calls to make on polymarket. And multiple times in the same week, at that.
Iran must REALLY have told them to fuck off.

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>>62106479

>>62106258
i wrote you a Portfolio but my browser crashed lol

i dont feel like exlaining my reasoning again, and why i said not to get bonds

here it is:
50% QQQM
20% SPGL
20% Internatioanl equities ETF
10% GLD

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Imagine believing this ceasefire wasn't fake and gay.

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rumours swirling in pakistan

>>62106516
Vance went home
time to heeb it up

>>62106516
>witjkoff and kuyshner negotiating
lol
jewish zionists in charge of negotiations for eqace

Should I just pull all my money out? This market is nonsense

>>62106489
No its not. Thats definitely a pussy.
Unlike you virgins, i can tell.

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Holy shit this guy will crash the entire memeLLM shit

Want to start investing instead of having my money sit around in HYSA getting like 3% per year. Thinking of just sticking it into an ETF like UETW and call it a day. I have 10k yuro to put in, should I just dump it all in one go now or spread that over a couple of months?

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>>62106529

I only get hard around ladyboys and thats 100% a man

>>62106526
it shows who's in charge

>>62106531
DCA for sure, there's a large sentiment that we're heading towards a large market decline.

>>62106530
jerry tworek (former head of openai research) will beat lecunn to energy based models and then sell the tech back to same for a couple of billions
lecunn is washed

>>62106415
I paid $20000yen for 30mins not too long ago.
Theres cheaper options but with hoes, you get what you pay for. I'd rather have a hot ass 22 year old than a 30 some year old hag for half off.

>>62106531
1k a week over next 10 weeks. Will likely be an average down for you

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> futures

>>62106536
Just two more weeks™
I've been hearing that for the past year now and I should have started a year ago but been holding it off just keeping it in savings
>>62106541
Guess I'll do that then. Tired of waiting around for the right time and just want to have my money doing something rather than nothing

>>62106415
saddest part of this post is I'd personally get more rush investing that money

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I told you niggers to sell everything, but noooooo, you actually thought the Jewish states of America were going to let some Muslims take control of the global economy.

>>62106545
>I've been hearing that for the past year now
The AI bubble has been the topic at the time with people waiting for it to burst, now it's combined with oil shock, unresolved conflict, poor labour market, stagnating economy and private equity crisis. Can't guarantee where the market will be, but it's looking rough out there. If I were a betting man I'd put money into gold, but if the strait won't get opened it's still likely to drop in price as countries will keep offloading it. May want to start putting money in after the weekend when the prices will quite likely drop, though I myself am I fairly bullish towards the main part of the conflict being over and the main issue being the aftermath now, though we shall see.

>Leaked footage from an unreleased Department of War recruitment video shows a shirtless Secretary Pete Hegseth ripping a Persian carpet in half with his bear hands before slamming it to the ground and stomping on it furiously. The Department of War did not respond to CNN for comment.

There's absolutely no deal. Oil is still down because the dollar is up or something. I think oil is going down before it goes back up.

>>62106516
Steve witkoff and jared kushner do not want the war to end, they're both Israeli passport holders

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>>62106292
Most of the FPV drones you see used against tanks have a high explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead which uses a hollow copper liner to shape the explosion into a jet of molten metal that can punch through armor. Indeed purely explosive munitions are only effective agaonst unarmored infantry, but HEAT can penetrate as much as mainline MBT cannons while being tiny, the same warhead is being used for most antoitank missiles

Just realized something, china produces steel, concrete and bridges that they don't need at all.
Why don't they just build a space port to export material into space? You need space ports to dock your space ship with the earth.

If they have so many extra materials, why don't they just build massive railway networks to europe, africa and india so they can bypass the sea?

TOLD YOU RETARDS IT DOESNT MATTER

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Time for the Bored of Piss to act and open the Hormussy, I guess!

I expected OIL to pump more on hyperliquid. But we barely moved. That tells me that insiders are pretty optimistic.

War is probably over. They are just playing games

>>62106580
I expect the market will undergo a major correction in the coming weeks. Best to sell oil and related stocks right now.

>>62106240
Once you realize how low liquidity those markets are and how cheap it is to move them, manipulating them is a no brainer. Considering that MSM treats them as accurate predictions, you have a tool that lets you control people's expectations for just a few mil

OIL WILL BE DOWN BY EVENING
MARKETS WILL BE UP BY EVENING
NOTHING MATTERS. THE MARKETS **WILL** GO UP AND TO THE RIGHT. OIL DOESNT HAVE TO GO DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN BUT YOU WILL NEVER **EVER** SEE OIL OVER 100 **EVER** EEEEEVVVEERRR AGAYIN

>>62106584
yeah. I got out of the OIL trade. It was fun and I made some good trades, but jesuschrist, the manipulation is so blatant that it is not worth it. I will go short if we reach 110 again but for now I'm out. It's sunday,and any truth social post could change everything. It is what it is

>>62106233
nice op for once

>>62106591
What happens if the market decides to the left? Have you ever considered that possibility?

>>62106596
AS IN TIME FLOWS BACKWARD? DUNNO THATS A GOOD QUESTION. IVE NEVER CONSIDERED THIS. I WILL CONSULT MY FINANCIAL ADVISOR

up and to the right. zoom out. time in the market. dca. inflationary. index funds.

>>62106598
Why would I listen to the financial advice of someone who doesn't consider all the possibilities in his calculations? Guess I'll keep sitting on a pile of cash for now until I get more elaborate advice from here.

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open the dang market man

>>62106604
chat is this real

Some of you guys are ok, dont go to / biz/ tomorrow

>>62106601
just dont start in 1999 2007 or 2026
>>62106602
I think the BDCcaust is over, I am going to long a bunch of high dividend DRIP in my IRA

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Just yesterday i invested my first 200$ in crypto

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>read stock market for dummies book
>"straight up is not a pattern"
>see this
mmmmm nyes

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>>62106565
That is a spurious accusation.
Indred - excuse me, Jared, does not represent the interests of Israel. He represents the interest of the United States (and the Mothman)
>>62106578

>>62106618
CRYPTO IS FUCKING DEAD RETARD. ITS ENTERED A MULTIYEAR BEAR MARKET

>>62106532
i've had sex with dozens of prostitutes (never had it without outright paying for it) and the best one ever was a mexican ladyboy, i almost felt loved for real
/smg/ stock market general

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Oh, the up and to the right fucktard just woke up, great.

>>62106609
yep

>>62106630
Not sure if coked up or pure retardation. I filtered him anyway

Anybody selling short the shipping futuree?

ok now that the retards filtered me lets get to the meat and potatoes. i have puts on the market

btw you retards are slow. major happening in process
>Trump: effective immediately, United States Navy will begin process of blockading any and all ships trying to enter or leave Strait of Hormuz.

>>62106624
Where is the money exiting crypto flowing to?

>>62106253
Previously, Iran was content to merely have the ability to build nukes, but the war has probably made Iran realize that they need to actually build the nukes

We's gonna doompy

>>62106641
Ugh totally bullish

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>>62106642
Jeeze, I wonder where.
Back home, simple as.

>>62106642
literally dollars. theres a massive need for dollars right now and crypto has had a long time to suck in retard retail money who think crypto is an "investment"
bitcoin has existed for almost 20 years. theres no mainstream adoption or use. crypto is fake and gay

>>62106641
This can't be true but it is. WTF?

>>62106643
>62106643
The issue is that even then, what's the use? You nuke somebody and then get nuked. WOW. It's not even a real deterrent anymore.

So, useful only if you don't care if you get nuked or you are attacking and the other does not have nukes (Russia and Ukraine)

>>62106651
>>62106641
Weekend futures dumping further, kek

>>62106651
if the us cant have the strait, iran will no longer be allowed to make money using it
looking forward to china getting involved now
market is literally going to crash, lmao

>>62106584
Holy fuck my time horizon was so wrong. A single Trump tweet has utterly destroyed my prediction. This is why I don’t make trades on weekends

Fuck, I told myself I wouldnt but I open an OIL trade. Couldnt help myself. I know a truth social could destroy me, but whatever. LETS GO

>INSIGHT: AI companies have raised over $240B in Q1 2026.

>In the first quarter of this year, they raised more than in all of 2025.

Quite ironic considering that I remember months ago the crazy announcements and comparisons of different AI models and now I don't read much about it anymore on twitter
>WOW THE NEXT MODEL IS COMING OUT
>CHATGPT 5!!!!!!!!
>it sucks, I want the old back
>Sora discontinued

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>trump orders the US Navy to block all ships entering and leaving the strait
>no im not blocked, you are blocked!
Kek what? So china gonna be ok with this?

Weekend oil at 96, for whatever reason IG is currently about $3 below the official numbers, so Oil might open at 99-100

didnt china launch a bunch of naval ships yesterday or whatever
what if they get to the strait and blockade the blockade lmao

So Straight 'o Homos is double closed now?

>>62106655
The utility of nukes is that they allow Iran to retaliate commensurately if USrael tries to cause very large amounts of damage to Iran, whether that is by means of dropping nukes on Iran or by means of dropping lots and lots of normal bombs on critical infrastructure in Iran

>>62106663
cfd markets are extremely light, theres always room for trades in there to btfo people, futes open is where the magic will begin

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>>62106663
Oil opening over $110 fren. He just ordered a complete blockade of the strait.

>>62106665
It's even more closed than it was before

>>62106665
Possibly triple closed
Its so over (this time)

>>62106669
what market priced in
>hormussy opening up
what market go
>TWO cunts locking hormussy up instead of just one
haha

>>62106665
triple
>must get around trans floating armada
>must swerve to avoid Iranian missiles
>must pray you don't hit a mine
and that is just to get in.

My 10x paper oil might actually print for once unless there will be some more market manipulation trickery.

>>62106669
Now that I think about it, how the fook is that actually going to work? Like is US navy actually going to fire on Chinese ships passing through the 'ussy? If they fire back, is that WW3?

>>62106669
>"I have also instructed our navy to seek and interdict every vessel in international waters that has paid a toll to Iran."
What the actual fuck? He is going to turn to piracy against every country in the world?

>>62106669
This nigger ain't got no cards. It's another bluff so he can taco again. Sad. Many such cases with this nigger.

>>62106682
And nobody will do anything about it

ah yes wonderful, let's blockade the thing that's already blocked

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if it was an /smg/ trader it would be hundreds of dollars

JUST IN: PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERS THE US NAVY TO "SEEK AND INTERDICT" EVERY SHIP IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS THAT PAID A TOLL TO IRAN.

"NO ONE WHO PAYS AN ILLEGAL TOLL WILL HAVE SAFE PASSAGE ON THE HIGH SEAS."

I wonder how China, India and EU will respond

>>62106688
HAHAHAHAAHA this is the most retarded shit i've ever heard. Yeah, let's double blockade the blockade. What is the next cope?

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>>62106681
>Now that I think about it, how the fook is that actually going to work? Like is US navy actually going to fire on Chinese ships passing through the 'ussy? If they fire back, is that WW3?
>Trump orders US Navy to seek and interdict every ship in international waters that paid a toll to Iran

Why in the holy shit is the US blockading the strait

>>62106669
It's a good thing we have some new friends with some oil to sell.

>>62106694
>It's a good thing we have some new friends with some oil to sell.
Oh yeah who?
>inb4 Venezuela
kek retard.

>i am super smart
>why is thing happening???
never change

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New extra long TRVTH dropped
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116391830634836370

>>62106693
A global economic depression wasn't coming along fast enough, so Trump has decided to speed up the process

>>62106690
It’s not completely illogical. It now puts pressure on Iran to accept the American demands and clear the mines.
Great move by Trump, he’s making Iran look like highway thieves in the eyes of the world.

>>62106641
Most of the ships currently transiting Hormuz are Chinese and Indian. What happens when the US Navy tries to seize a Chinese ship?

>>62106669
Lmao imagine being an admiral or a general or whatever, having Sunday dinner with your family and reading a tweet from your schizo president that you'll have to organize an international blockade on Monday.

>>62106699
Not reading this shit, boomer fuck. It's called FAFO. Thanks for playing. Enjoy the midterms and the impeachment, LMAO.

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>past a certain age, a man without a comfortable retirement portfolio can be a bad thing

>>62106699
I'm honestly surprised talks went to shit so fast. I figured they'd be dragged out for a few days at least.

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>>62106699
>their mine ships are blown up

idk why he's still pushing that point unless he hasn't been briefed at all. Ukraine sunk the Moskva far in port using unmanned boats such as these, it's likely Iran has the same. Not to mention they can use rockets to lay mines from afar now

>>62106702
Yeah, blocking chinese and russian ships is very logical. Makes the US look like houthi pirates. Trump has NO idea of geopolitics. What a dumb fuck, kek.

>>62106702
Who suffers more from international trade being choked, Iran or the US? If Iran has no further chances of profit why wouldn"t they also destroy the rest of GCC infrastructure? Trump's tweet is the best thing oil calls could hope for lmao

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oil
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china navy will escort their tankers and the US won't dare touch them hahahaha

Oh yeah you can guarantee the red sea will close down too since the US has now set a precedent

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Thread theme:
Supermoves by Overseer
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLMjHrb_w4&pp=ygUcYW5pbWF0cml4IG1hY2hpbmUgd2FyIHBhcnQgMg%3D%3D

>>62106669
What happened to power plant day?

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>>62106723
TACO day instead.
>>62106703
>US Navy tries to seize a Chinese ship?
We may get to find out!

>BTC down almost 3%
Nice "digital gold" you got here

>OPEN THE FUCKING STRAIT
>*closes it even more*
I'm tired, boss. Tired of the winnings.

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LMAO

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>>62106678
>unless there will be some more market manipulation trickery
I mean,you're pretty much aware of the insane trickery we've seen for more than a month now. Oh, expect it to be delivered to Mr. clown market in a very nice plate just 30min before the open.
If the market believes enough in oil printing, then it can become a reality!

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>>62106699
this nigger...
well, I'm glad I'm all cash

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>>62106712
Iran does indeed have unmanned surface vehicles

>>62106720
Pretty much all of the wealth in the middle east comes from selling oil. That would be retarded.

>>62106699
This is your brain on American media

>the Ayathanos has seizes the infinity stones of Hornuz! but we brave Amerivengers can give him a taste of his own medicine by seizing it back, then we can use all that oil for freedom and beat the Ayathanos
>ignore the ramifications to internationla trade

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>>62106729
>Every Spanish shipping vessel company right now
>"Don't worry, we paid the toll in bitcoin, it's totally untraceable, everything will be fine"

This is end isn't it? A senile president who'll cause a shock to global economy for coming years

>>62106730
I assumed the trickery were the falling oil futures on friday before close so I went long. I'm not yet ready to predict double trickery.

>>62106729
He is literally trying to start WW3. Americans should unironically invoke the 25th amendment over this retard

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>>62106688
I can't stop laughing at the GCC countries that joined his bored of piss and now gets doubly impacted by his retardation
LMAO

>>62106734
If Iran is gonna get no money due to the US blockade, why not drag everyone down to that level? They don't care what their population thinks as has been clearly shown before.

>>62106699
Why doesn't Iran already test their nukes?

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Axios help

We're going to see $150 oil next week aren't we?

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>>62106744
>They don't care what their population thinks as has been clearly shown before
Are we talking about Iran here or the US?

>>62106746
Because it only currently exists as 440kg 60% enriched uranium buried under the rubble from Operation Midnight Hammer

>BREAKING: EVERYTHING IS FINE. BUY CALLS -AXIOS

>>62106731
Cash that will pay for one (1) mcmeal after hyperinflation

>>62106711
It's pretty telling actually. You'd expect exactly this
>>62106491
and then again, Iran really told them to get fucked.
Trade accordingly for the rest of this war and be wary of the shitload of lies that will come out from the WH. Iran WON'T negotiate.

>>62106702
It doesn't put any pressure on Iran at all.

>>62106752
>>62106747
KEK you know this is how it will turn out

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This is what hundreds of thousands of years of evolution leads to. This is what god wants for us. This is the future you invest in. The eternal smell of poop garbage and chaos everywhere. This is what we left the void for. And you can't rest and get peace in the void you get pushed back in this world cause god wants his little playpen for entertainment. The world just sinks further into a shitmess dumpster fire as the line goes up and to the right. Money can't save you from a decaying garbage bin world.

>>62106711
It's made clear in his post, Iran would not give up their ability to develop nuclear weapons, this was the casus belli for the war, thus peace cannot be agreed upon

>>62106712
Moskva was sunk by anti-ship missiles of the model Neptune, which is essentially a re-invented X-35. Iran has similar missiles.

>>62106727
Praise be to Allah

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.

MY SHORTS ARE PRINTING! WHEN DO I CLOSE THEM? I HAVE PTSD FROM AXIOS POSTING

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Oh yeah idk if /smg/ caught it but CENTCOM pushed a story about a conflicting nunber of shios "transiting the strait" lmao. First it was one, then one in 2 directions, then 2 ships, then it was a demining mission.

>US ships began setting conditions to clear mines

in other words nothing happened. The likely story is that they turned back after Iranian warning. Anyways thought it was funny they pushed this story yesterday and now their job is to filly blockade it lmao. They might have even attempted to sacrifice a Qatari tanker for causus belli

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4457220/us-forces-start-mine-clearance-mission-in-strait-of-hormuz/

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>>62106739
No Mr. Mumu why don't you get it!

The End comes when Mr. Donald prevents capitalism from allowing prices to adjust accordingly so that resources can flow efficently!

It comes when people stop believing in markets!

The thing in itself is nothing, the reaction and Mr. Donald and his friend's Communism is everything!

Read the book! You've got all Sunday free!

>>62106758
The next America is greater israel, and the next europe is India.
The shekel is the next reserve currency and the rupee is the new euro.
The india israel sea trade corridor is about to be established as soon as the Suez canal is taken by the jews.
I'd invest in the israeli-indian stocks

So now we just wait until trump sends the marines to qeshm and takes control of the strait, right?

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>>62106729
>it's not even in red
>check bloomberg
just a headline, not "BREAKING"
>check twitter
just another headline, no 'emergncy' emoji

bruh even the news outlets aren't giving that much importance to this shit anymore because he say's the most insane shit on a daily basis that there's no way he can go through with this.
Blocking commercial ships MUST be illegal, right?

>>62106746
Additionally the US has satellites that can detect nuke testing and uranium enrichment. Over the past decades the looming threat of building a nuke has been used as leverage to negociate against sanctions, but that's clearly over

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>new trvth post

>>62106746
It would ratchet up the escalation level. It would only make sense to do so when you want to signal that you are about to use them

>>62106751
The US seems to be unable to destroy Iranian missile bases, so it seems very unlikely that they were able to destroy the Fordo bunker. Also, many think only a fraction of Iran's 60% enriched uranium stockpile was stored in the Fordo bunker anyway

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rip tech bulls

>>62106760
I thought it was swarmed by drones to distract it while the USV crept into port? I'll have to do some reading

The Kobeissi Letter seething after they were so proud of their "playbook". Magatards whose hubris will cost a lot of other magatards a lot of money.

Professor Jiang proven right ONE MORE TIME

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>>62106768
>Blocking commercial ships MUST be illegal, right?
"There are no laws in the ocean" - Jeffrey Epstein

>>62106768
>MUST be illegal, right
America and Israel are above the law.

>>62106758
Yup it’s all meaningless. But laying down and dying without making a sound or hurting anyone is what they want and why would you ever give them what they want?

>>62106766
There is no direct sea route between Israel-India…

>>62106778
I actually thought Jiang Xueqin was wrong this week and that I was bankrupt and had to sell my house.
Looks like all I had to do was keep a cool head and listen to the chinese guy.

>>62106775
Well everything we know comes from media reports which say they're heavily damaged and parts have caved in and Iran haven't tried to recover the uranium that we know of, American satellites have been watching the sites 24/7

>>62106766
Remember when Bismarck said America was powerful because it was a resource rich country bordered by weak/no enemies and fish?

Israel is the opposite of that lol.

So is dow jones finally crashing, or there will be another axios (((headline))) before opening?

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>>62106777
>in port
It was close to the Ukrainian coast

>distracted by drones
You can see in the picture that the S-300F engagement radar was in the neutral position. Most likely, the ship was at a very low readiness level because the Russians did not expect the Ukrainians to have any operational anti-ship missiles. This would be similar to what happened to the INS Hanit in 2006.

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>>62106669
NETANYAHU
NUKE THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ
AND MY FORESKIN IS YOURSSSSS

>>62106791
America is slowly becoming that too, like Africa all the natural resources in the world are useless without the industry to exploit them yourselves

its increasingly looking like the pump was a scam
they got puts insanely cheap and are now gonna rug the fucking market, meanwhile investors get left holding the bag

>>62106792
The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent, the market has been in denial about the consequences of this conflict from the start

To be fair the british empire did the same in the suez
america and england come from the same anglojewish cloth
the spaniards call the british pirates, no wonder their fat american offspring would behave the same

The sad part is, there is no way to keep Iran down forever. Their religious pride won’t allow them to be broken down, unlike Japan after WW2.

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> futures

>>62106778
>The Kobeissi Letter
Who the fuck are they anyway, it's like Axios, you basically never heard of them until like 2 years ago and then suddenly they both are everywhere, one being some kind of news agency, the other some trading firm or whatever.
Are they both, well, you know... ? (can't post here or you get banned)

>>62106787
I don't know if you're an American and I don't intend to insult everybody, but there are a lot of Americans that will simply hate that dude and not listen to him just because he is a different race. It's pretty sad to see it. But Professor Jiang's analysis and game theory are some of the best out there and the thing is, when it comes to geopolitics, it's pretty easy to see who knows his subject. Dismissing his words just because he is not white is simply pathetic and sad.

when TACO

>US blockading the strait
So now Iran doesnt even have to lift a finger kekw
China won't like this one bit either

>>62106804
Last week I was depressed that I missed spending my dividends as the market pumped. Now I'm getting a second chance to buy in low.

>>62106811
Not for few more days. He just ended his last taco cycle so need to wait for a few more red days first before he repeats to boost the indexes back up.

>>62106811
we just had tbe opposite of a taco
a british beans on toast

>>62106806
Nigger the Strait of Hormuz is a natural waterway, the Suez Canal was the creation of the British and French

>>62106811
Friday most likely. But I would assume the "blockade" narrative to be extinguished by Tuesday. Keep in mind Trump openly admitted dozens of times that he uses hard sell tactics.

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>no deal
>we're gonna dump again
Awesome, I closed most of my option positions with the rally and now I can open up some iron condors again. We've been crabing since october but Im up 7% from just iron condors alone

>>62106801
I couldn’t agree more, but it’s also true of Israel. There are only like 8 million Jews in Israel, there’s no space to set up major industry, and by 2050 it’ll be 40% ultra orthodox who contribute nothing to the economy.

Jiang is a CCCP shill (he is actually GRU but it’s close enough)

>>62106812
guarantee chinas naval fleet is already on the way to have a good old fashioned standoff

>>62106810
Just don't listen to his conspiracy points, I'm suspecting they're pushing specific ones familiar to boomers (moon landing, jfk, illuminati/freemasons) to eventually build sympathy for China. His arguments supporting them are shaky at best, like claiming that streaming live TV feed from the moon was some impossible feat

>>62106810
He doesn't see himself as chinese. He says he's a foreigner in china despite being of their race.
I've been watching him since summer last year which means I had all the signals to become rich but didn't act on them. Oil was predicted to go up.

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>Iran blocks the strait and gets a toll
>US decides to then block the blockade and gets the toll back
>EU decides to block the blocked blockade and gets all the tolls back
>Chyna decides to block the blocked blocked blockade and gets all the tolls back

>>62106789
We know that the missile bases keep firing, even after repeated strikes. There is video evidence of this. A notorious example:
https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/2037327335117005063

> parts have caved in
Yes, the entrances. The Iranians come with bulldozers and clear the entrances. Then the cycle repeats. Even US media writes about this
>Iranian operatives have been digging out underground missile bunkers and silos struck by American and Israeli bombs, returning them to operation hours after an attack, according to U.S. intelligence reports.
https://archive.ph/eyINp

> Iran haven't tried to recover the uranium that we know of
We don't even know for sure where the uranium is.

>American satellites have been watching the sites 24/7
The satellites physically cannot do that, because satellites in geosynchronous orbit would have too poor resolution to see trucks, let alone people, unless the satellites are truly gigantic, which they are not.
They can see if the Iranians remove the soil that they covered the entrances at of the nuclear facilities with, but they can't see what the Iranians take in or out through secret entrances.

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some actually saw a bit of green last week on the goysquares, ignored reality, and thought it was all over

>>62106812
>>62106821
China probably wont react until Trump stops one of their vessels. He may not even and just pretend he stopped Iran and no one in Maga will notice.

>>62106817
semantics, they're both trade chokepoints like gibraltar, the strait of malaca, the cape of good hope and the panama canal
>but some thirdies had to die to make this one
who cares?

>>62106830
haha couldn't be me haha
;(

>>62106807
The regime is pretty unpopular. Just keep bombing the IRGC and give the people guns and it will sort itself out. Iran is nothing like the arab shitholes.

>>62106829
I know that about the missile bases, but there's been no activity at the nuclear sites(According to reports) and not all bunkers are made equal, lots of those 'missile cities' as they're called are deeper underground or built into granite mountains

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>>62106834
>The regime is pretty unpopular.
Based off of what? Diaspora atheists in the west who all wanted communism?

>>62106831
i think this is the perfect time for china to flex some muscle. if you think about this logically the us has no legal right to be out here blocking international waters. im pretty sure china is gonna make them leave

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I knew there would be no peace achieved
At this point, with all the batshit crazy things Trump has said, I am an Iranian sympathizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBZold3-qI

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Gee I wonder why we've been seeing a big influx of Chinese cargo planes and zrussian freight ships into Iran. Also that MC-139's infrared missile jammer, and it's likely already in China getting disassembled lol. If Iran somehow gets the results back quick enough it could inprove theit own missiles' effectiveness. This is why losong aircraft behind enemy lines is not a win despite what magaots tell you

>>62106834
Then why doesn’t Trump do it?

i didnt have a gapfill monday on my bingo card but ill take it