>>21884227
>tender sauce
ur a bloody prodigy m8

You added a shot of black didn't you, you cheeky cunt

you make this thread once a month. nobody cares.

>outting yourself as a /v/irgin
>>>/v/732943850

>>21884227
Did you use salt and pepper this time anon?

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>>21884258

you used baking soda on the beef before cooking. chug bleach.

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>>21884273
I think he should chug something else

>>21884227
Good.
Meat sauce is disgusting

>>21884273
>baking soda on beef
I would never do that on an italian dish.

>>21884227
I'd like to know. Ive tried all different ways and the meat in my sauce is always chewy.

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>>21884227
>meat sauce with spaghetti

>>21884227
just cook it for ages its not rocket science
sure you can eat bolognese after 30 minutes of cooking it but it will be 100x better if you cook it a few hours

>>21884227
You used milk

>>21884966
Sounds gross but just try it: ground beef in water, over low heat mash with a potato masher until it's a textureless pink emulsion. Pressure cooker will give you some maillard reaction, or you can simmer it for hours. If you use canned tomatoes you can use the liquid from that instead of water. You can make the sauce before the simmering. Maillard isn't even necessary, just much better with it than without. I like a thick meat sauce so I'll reduce it a lot. Helps if you use a braiser instead of saucepan. Spaghetti sucks ass too, use linguine. The meat is so fine no other shape really works right.

>>21884966
op here, this is not my post. >>21885232

>>21885086
This. O'Pee used milk.

>>21884227
Based on your photo, if that beef is tender you achieved it by:
Not browning the meat
Slowly stewing it in water
Draining most of the water
Mixing through a dash of tomato paste
Adding nothing else but some pepper when serving
I'm not sure it's got flavour ey

>>21884227
>make spaghetti

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>>21885086
>>21885236
No

>>21885232
No

>>21885239
>Not browning the meat
No
>Slowly stewing it in water
No
>Draining most of the water
No
>Mixing through a dash of tomato paste
No
>Adding nothing else but some pepper when serving
No

There might be a 3% chance that someone on /ck/ has used this technique before.

>>21885255
op here. This wasn't me. I'm gay. Not a straight pedo. Don't listen to him.

>>21885255
You’re assuming that we believe:
-it’s as good as you say;
-it’s better than we ourselves can already make;
-anyone cares (mostly we don’t).
Three strikes, you’re out.

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>>21885255
you velveted it in sodium bicarbonate and then rinsed it clean in a strainer before adding to your jar sauce

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>>21885271
No

>>21885266
I've previously used every technique posted so far by anons, they all don't work.
>slow cooking
>breaking up and cooking the ground meat in water
>not browning the meat
>using milk
>adding baking soda to the meat

Someone's gonna post the technique eventually. I know that it's not a big secret. But do /ck/ posters actually know it? I've previously made threads asking how to make a tender meat sauce, but I never got a reply back with a good method. Through trial and error, I discovered it myself.

>>21885276
Just be a champ and tell us. This coy hook and line game you're playing is kinda dumß

>>21885255
I was telling the actually good way of making good way of making it, you retard. You can shove your no up your ass because you are flat out wrong here.

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>>21885276
You do realize that by playing your little “I’m better than you” game that you just prove you’re either a cunt and an attention whore for withholding, or a blowhard… right?

>>21885329
op here, I'm sorry. It's just a personality function of mine. I'm gay as fuck but like to larp as a pedo. As the third post indicated, I make this thread often then just act like a cunt. I was going to say I'm sorry but I'm not because I'm a immature and narcissistic prick. Thanks for your time. Expect the exact same topic soon, with me acting smarmy and obnoxious.

>>21884227
You bake it in the oven instead of boiling it on the stove?

Why the fuck would you make spaghetti? Literally any other kind of pasta would be better

>>21884227
>Good luck guessing what I did
you used ground pork instead of beef.

>>21885584
Not OP, but Spaghetti has a place in my kitchen—serving as a replacement for angel hair. Otherwise you’re right, and bucatini (etc) mogs.

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>>21885580
No

>>21885591
No

You peed on it, didn't you?

>>21885798
It's got electrolytes

>>21885255
you fucking put a shotgun barrel into your mouth and pulled it in the near future, thats how the spaghetti sauce came out so nice and tender. you faggot

>>21884227
You broke down the meat somehow, maybe with something acidic, just like how you marinate a slab of meat. That's how you tenderize ground beef

>>21884227
You cooked the meat and then put it in a blender to pre-chew it for yourself like an actual baby

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>>21887279
No

>>21887398
No

>>21884227
doesn't look particularly special

>>21884227
You put spam through a meat grinder

You started it in a cold pan with water
This is how great taco beef and hot dog chilis are made

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>>21887755
No

>>21888685
No
I do use a similar method to my meat sauce for making tender taco meat.

>>21884227
cum:)

>>21888681
What the flying fuck is this faggotry trying to say, I don’t read retardese

>>21887755
https://youtu.be/Ku-I-7wttsg?si=hb4yAuPOtzpSZqwc

Op used veal or pork

>>21888858
OP doesn’t have a secret, he’s just trolling you all epically.

>>21884227
>tender and flavorful meat sauce
>tender
this soi boy can't chew meat sauce.

also spaghetti is for poors.

>>21885232
>Pressure cooker will give you some maillard reaction
you cannot get a maillard reaction in a pressure cooker.

>>21888689
I hadn't thought about Nicocado for a while. That guy is so unbelievably based it's unreal. Might remain an internet legend forever.

>>21884227
I put my 2 cents
>put some pasta water before the pasta finished but cooked a little so it released the Starch inside and added the pasta water to the sauce but only half a ladle and let it reduce to get the creamy texture.
I say this because it's pretty common in Italy but not everyone know it or use it, they say it's the "Restaurnat trick".
But maybe i'm wrong.

>>21884227
That spaghetti is overcooked. Looks like something you'd get in a shitty cafeteria buffet

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>>21888858
No

>>21889069
No

>>21889302
You didn't say no to my post >>21889099

So this must be it. The answer is poo, as always.

>>21889559
He didn't say no to the pee answer either, so it might be that instead.

>>21889667
Or it's both. When you're pooing, you often pee as well.

I had diarrhea this morning.

>>21889958
That must've made for a really tender and flavorful meat sauce

>>21884277
That chef is only good for cream sauce

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>>21889099
>>21889559
>>21889674
>>21889958
>>21890617

>>21885255
you put mashed legumes in it, or you put gravy in it. anything else is pure cope

>>21891271
OP hasn't denied it to this day

>>21889674
Could be semen

>>21884227
Keep your secret. It looks terrible.

>>21891456
>secret
By now everyone knows OP used poo

Why do you fucking retards keep bumping this troll thread? OP is an enormous cocksucking faggot who doesn’t have any sooper sekrit cooking technique.

Learn what goes in all fields you fucking newfags.

>>21891489
>OP is an enormous cocksucking faggot
Ah, so the super secret ingredient is cum after all

>>21891493
??
I'm white.

>>21884227
Lets mystical guess.

You drained some of the grease but not all of it
You browned the beef then you mixed it in the sauce to finish
You used a bay leaf
You used oregano
You used bone marrow or cooked a bone in the sauce to smooth out the flavor
You deglazed with wine
You cooked it with onions but removed the onions cause youre gay but wanted the juices
You added a bit of butter or heavy cream
You used less tomato paste
You used more tomato paste
You used corn starch

I don't know what faggot OP does but I assure you if you want a tender meat sauce just go low and slow in milk with a fatty beef and veal mix mixed with a very finely diced up and sauteed mirepoix
break up the meat as fine as possible

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>>21891276
No

>>21891859
No to all of them.
But I will say that one is quite close to being it, but it's missing something.

>>21891914
No

>>21892557
You still haven't denied you use poo

Once when I was a kid my father was eating dinner when he suddenly jumped out of his chair and I heard a great crashing sound as he flung his plate of spaghetti and meat sauce against the wall and it shattered into pieces.
"What the fuck is this Lorraine!? This meat sauce isn't tender! This meat sauce is tough and chewy! You bitch!" My father screamed.

"I'm sorry Phillip, I don't know the secret to making the perfect tender meat sauce for spaghetti! My mother never told me because I got disowned by my family for being pregnant with anon! My mother replied.
They both turned to stare at me, anger and frustration in their eyes. The chewy sauce was my fault. I had known since tasting dinner myself an hour earlier.

Cum

>>21892557
those fucking eyebr…oh boobies nice

>>21892557
Its the bone I mentioned, isnt it? Thats the close one? Bone broth, perchance? Im getting closer.

>>21892948
You are getting closer, but it's not the bone.

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>>21884227
>I can now create the most tender and flavorful meat sauce consistently every time I make spaghetti.

>>21892989
Knorr stock pods

>>21892989
You simulated the bone taste/texture with gelatin?

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>>21893321
Hmmmm jellied bolognese

>>21884227
wait pls acc tell us im hungy

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>I can now create the most tender and flavorful meat sauce consistently every time I make spaghetti.
Too bad it looks like shit and is way too red.

>>21884227
Why is it spelled like that, but it's pronounced "puskettees?"

>>21884227
>ground meat
>tender
Stop using words you don't understand.

Good for OP, I guess.
Here's like how I like to make my sauce
>olive oil in pan
>pre-heat
>add some finely chopped onions and garlic to pan
>fry till the onions start to become glassy
>add minced meat
>fry till it's nice and brown
>add tomato past and water
>reduce
>season with some salt, pepper, oregano and paprika powder and a little bit of sugar
>stirr throughly and let it simmer on low for like a minute

>>21896417
>onions and garlic before the meat
Really? In my experience the meat can take more heat in comparison and benefits from going first.

>>21892989
You use bone marrow and/or gelatin powder.

>>21884234
Kek

ok OP here, since the best any of you tards got was "kind of close", the actual method is r to this post or your mother dies in her sleep tonight

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>>21893279
No, that only affects the flavor.

>>21893321
Didn't use gelatin. Interesting idea though.

>>21896446
No

So far, I'll just say that the ingredient(s) and technique hasn't been posted so far. The trick is so simple and stupid, that it'll sound ridiculous if you hear it.

>>21885276
>slow cooking doesn't work to make things tender
troll thread

>>21896941
You’re a cunt and I’m hiding this thread.

pasta looks like shit but i like how small meat parts are, when i make ragu they clump together but i dont have a masher

>>21884227
>Good luck guessing what I did
Nah, don't care
KYS you absolute retard nigger faggot
Go back and spare us your shitty blog threads

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>>21884227
Love is the secret ingredient?

>>21896941
If bone is the closest thing, I'm going to assume it's a different body part.

You used some sort of ground organ meat?

Only other thing I can think of is pineapple because it breaks down meat, but fuck if I know how that correlates to bone.

>>21897613
It is obviously love, which comes from the heart which is a muscle surrounded by bones.

>>21896941
You put the pasta back in the pot, you add a little gravy and a little butter, then you put the fire back on and for 45 seconds stir it up real nice. That way the macaroni absorbs the gravy instead of just coats it.

>>21896941
You made a panade and mixed it with the meat

>>21897971
>Anon's impossibly niche technique is some shit that BWB showed millions of normies a decade ago

I'm angry I wasted a tab keeping this shit thread open for 3 days.

>>21897971
Panade was the first thing I thought. How did all these retards not guess that already? I don't even eat meat sauce or meatballs.

>>21884227
You cummed in it.

>>21897971
So your secret to a tender meat sauce is to make a meat and breadcrumb sauce?

You know what my secret to making a tough steak tender is? You throw the tough steak out and buy a tender one to replace it.

That’s you, you fucking faggot. It’s not a ‘meat sauce’ if it includes breadcrumbs. I’m not even Italian and I want to hang you upside down under a bridge so you drown by inches as the tide comes in. Fuck you, you fucking faggot.

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Here’s the post that massively cocksucking cum guzzling faggot OP deleted out of well deserved shame.

OP is kinda based in a way

>>21898496
I don't know why OP deleted his post.
Panade is a traditional ingredient in meatballs. What's the problem?
>Panade is a culinary technique originating from France, where a mixture of starch and liquid—typically bread and milk—is used to keep ground meats like meatballs, meatloaf, and burgers moist and tender.
>The term translates literally to "bread mash" and works by interrupting the contraction of meat proteins during cooking. The starches absorb moisture and undergo gelatinization, acting like tiny sponges that retain juiciness and prevent dryness.

>>21898661
If this was OPs secret technique than I've tried the panade method and it's shit. I don't want to blend my beef with carboshot like bread and milk. What a fucking anticlimax

>>21898094
>OP says: "I know that one of you fuckers is going to proceed to claim that they already know about it and that it's common knowledge."
>/ck/ fails to find the answer for over a week

>>21899102
Yeah because he said ‘meat sauce’ and not ‘mashed soggy breadcrumbs and meat sauce’. The fundamental premise of his claim was misleading. It’s like saying “I have the secret to the perfect roast turkey, guess what it is” when the secret is making a turducken. OP is a faggot and you’re also a faggot for defending him.

>>21899292
He didn't say tomato and salt either, but I bet there's tomato and salt in it

>>21899292
I'm sorry you were too stupid to think of panade.

>>21898661
How are you supposed to make meatballs? I've always put bread and milk mixture because that's how my gramma showed me.

>>21898496
ngl made me chuckle. also op is a fucking faggot what a letdown

>>21898661
Didn't mean to delete the post. Shared IP. If this post gets deleted too, that's the reason.

Panade is a method used by America's Test Kitchen for meat sauces. Don't know why it's not common when it works so well.

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/how_tos/9242-ten-steps-to-simple-meat-sauce

>>21899774
Because maybe people don’t like fucking puppy food in their ‘meat’ sauce?

>>21899905
Go figure, /ck/ is full of food luddites who ignore food science, so that isn't surprising. There's a reason why it's used in meatballs and salisbury steak.

>>21899917
Yeah but ‘meat sauce’ is a completely different animal to ‘meat and breadcrumbs and milk sauce’.

>>21900052
I'll just say this; if you like meatballs and spaghetti, you'll like this. Being pedantic about meat sauce containing breadcrumbs is like saying meatballs shouldn't contain breadcrumbs because they're called meatballs.

>>21900059
Your mouth should contain my fist.

>>21900059
So if you went to a restaurant and ordered pasta bolognese and the sauce was 70% breadcrumbs and milk, you’d shrug and say ‘it’s still meat sauce’? I dunno, sounds to me like you don’t have much respect for food, or yourself.

The bread crumbs are in the meat, not the sauce

>>21900145
>70%
Lmao you pulled a big number out of your ass and thought it would help you win the argument.
>"Imagine if you ordered a pizza and it was 420% salt, would you enjoy that? Salt lovers btfo."

Based OP btfo /ck/ with soggy bread crumbs.

the heat of the bread crumbs cooks the meat

>>21884227
I know exactly how you did it. I do it all the time.

>>21899074
This is a troll rage bait thread

>>21900569
It's hilarious how easily anons are provoked. OP predicted exactly how people were going to react. Blame yourselves.

>>21900569
>t. didn't know what a panade is until this thread

Bump to permanently cement this thread into people's brains.

You definitely cummed in it.

>>21884227
I am Italian and my bolognese will always be superior to the likes of you.

>>21903977
Italians are frauds. Most of my restaurant visits in Italy were disappointing. My mom makes better lasagne.

>>21884227
doesn't look that great

>>21905259
It's because italians determine the "right" way to cook something based on what they saw an old woman do instead of just going by what's actually good

>>21884227
How about we weport posts bwos? We can dish it out but we can't take it

>>21884227
>Thread was made 15 days ago
>Not even a general


WHAT THE FUCK happened to this board after the hack?

>>21908250
Well the circumstances were perfect. People wanted an answer so they kept bumping and some had a tab open for days, then finally the reveal generated more activity.
Then it almost died but I bumped it from page 10 keep the cope and seethe on display. It was funny to see the shitty attitudes of 4chan users backfire.

>>21892557
you used garlic

>>21884227
Minced meat is already tender. Just how weak is your jaw?

>>21908250
>WHAT THE FUCK happened to this board after the hack?

It wasn't "after the hack". It's been this way for years.

The website has no cultural identity anymore because of mod-supported invasion and colonisation from twitter/reddit/tumblr etc.

Twitter screenshot threads are allowed to thrive and 4chan culture threads are banned on sight.

>>21884227
simmered it in milk

cook your ground beef separately or remove it and clean the pan. learn to make sofritos. oil, aromatics, to your liking. then re-add your protein, then your tomato product. then your herbs.

that's it. that's the whole thing to consistent tomato sauce with meat.

>>21910199
Yeah, now there are only two "you cummed in it" posts.