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I just planted some Pink Brandywine Tomato seeds, what am I in for?
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>>21900834
How are you going to support them? I like the grow my stsrts to be like 8-12 inches tall and then remove all the leaves until the top set or two then you plant them entire stalk in a deep hole with a handful of organic 4-4-4 thrown in. The stalk grows roots, and burying the rootball deep means watering will be much easier. If you have watering on point you can also bury them sideways and it works even better for root development, but they're not as easy to keep watered.
Florida weave is pretty nice if you have a few of them. After you pick the toms closest to the ground you can prune the first foot or two of leaves and stalks completely off to help airflow and prevent any molding issues.
Research how many runners you want to have and keep on top of it. 1-3 is pretty good place to be, but you need to keep them all well supported and off the ground.
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>>21900834
Great BLTs!
I wish your plants well
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>>21900834
if you care and nurture them properly you will get some of the best tomatoes you'll ever have
>>21900916
Cherokee Purple is the best tomato I have ever had but they don't grow well in my climate. Brandywines are a more hardy and resilient plant that work better in the high altitude arid climate that I live in with dramatic hot and cold temperature wings.
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>>21901096
easily
>Brandywine tomatoes love heat. The hotter and more humid the better your Brandywine tomatoes will do. You should even expect more tomatoes because Brandywines love Florida’s summer.
>Perfect in Pots:
>If there is any tomato that can be grown in gardening pots in Florida, it’s Brandywine tomatoes. This is one of the most adaptive tomatoes, making it perfect for beginner gardeners in Florida.
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>>21901121
they are very dark and rich in flavor.
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tomato sammich season is too far away for me, it's still winter.
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>>21901169
that's why you start them indoors now and then plant them outside after the last frost to maximize your tomato growing potential.
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I planted early girl, and champion.
it gets hot pretty early in the year here and I hope to get a small crop in before summer. hopefully they won't die over the summer.
last year I planted one tomato plant. I got about a dozen tomatoes, it just survived the summer, and then at some point it got destroyed by caterpillars. I killed 15 but it was too late.
my current plants are in insect nets and I sprayed them with thuricide a bacteria that kills caterpillars when they eat it.
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>>21901243
>hopefully they won't die over the summer
Hey anon, I heard you had some lush tomato plants. Hope you don't mind I helped myself to a little snack.
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>>21901256
they didn't eat the tomatoes, they ate all the leaves.
>>21901257
I grown my own.
>>21901260
this happens more than it should
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>>21901141
There are dozens of varieties of brandywines, you can get them as dark or red as you like.
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>>21901293
Did you think I meant table salt or something? These were some Cherokee purples I did last year, and I had a half dozen other varieties that thrived with the Epsom salt.
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>>21901787
relatively easy depending on your climate/setup
the kicker is they need an absurd amount of water to grow to fruition, and if you haven't grown fruit crops before you'll likely be doubtful but you will incur a significant portion of that retail cost on just the water alone (water is legally free up to a certain volume for farmers/growers in most of the world which helps reduce final retail cost, not so for us with small non commercial operations)
as long as you source properly and don't lose crop you should still beat out $5/lb of course, but know what you're getting into. your water bill WILL increase significantly, and you'll take the brunt of it right as they're getting to the prime point for animals to eat the entire lot, which can incur more costs getting fencing/etc up
pots, good soil & fertilizer should be near non-factors cost-wise if you have a good garden center. just try to buy good soil from an accredited source, and go in with a minimal slow release at planting, a 5-10-10 or 3-4-6 depending on the cultivar you choose. alternatively, if you want to go organic, band with seed or transplant into a mixture of bloodmeal and kelpmeal, and go in with high P/K at the first critical growth stage. continuing on the organics, epsom salt is wise for Mg alongside worm castings and fish emulsion. compost usage depends on the soil you have, may or may not be beneficial - do NOT cheap out on compost, if it has a ton of woodchips, it's garbage (high slow-breakdown carbon content will starve the plant) or, avoiding the organic costs, just liquid inject 5-10-10/10-10-20 at staging
if transplanting seedlings, soak the everliving fuck out of them before getting them in ground. like actually drown them for a few minutes, underwater. then plant transplants with 2 inches of soil UP the stem, so the root cluster is about 3-4 inches deep
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>>21900843
>Likely failure otherwise.
This is a joke right tomato's are basically weeds. They'll grow in any soil and keep producing fruit for months. You can stunt their growth causing them to flower when they are like a foot tall,
One time I had a few plants that were beefsteak variety. And for teh lulz I decided to dwarf them alright. So the plant is like a foot tall with just a few stems, it started flowering like crazy. Tomatoes started forming like 2 dozen of them, they kept growing bigger and bigger and bigger. The stem was tiny you could see no green on the plant. It was just massive tomatoes like as big as a baseball for a few of them. It was impossible for the plant to hold itself up, so I started slowly flipping it and then placed a small amount of mesh on the bottom of the tomatoes to with string to hold them up. Shit looked so retarded, that plant produced dozens of tomatoes.
Another time I was gone from my place for like 7ish weeks from late spring to early summer. My backyard was 24ish feet by 10 feet wide, it was all fucking tomatoes still in their vegetative stage. They bushed out like crazy and because the plants grew so tall and so wide with so many side stems. They fell over and started growing roots from their stems. I had to rip up 90% of them because it was just insane, you know they were refusing to flower and took over not just the whole garden but the complete backyard.
If there is a single plant you want to grow and easily get 50lb of fruit with just a few plants in hardly any soil. Getting fruit over the span of months, plant tomatoes. Like they will produce fruit even in Canada where it gets cold and you can still have it flow in October giving fruit till the first frost.
This year I wanna try dwarfing/stunting them again but outdoor hydroponics in just a small bucket just a few plants. One of them I want to try doing the screen of green, where you mesh the plant tying it on a fence/chicken wire/wtv compact just 1sqft
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>>21901094
>you will get some of the best tomatoes you'll ever have
I swear even the most shittly grown veggies/fruit. As long as its a heirloom variety not for factory farming doesnt produce shit tasteless fruit/veggies that only suck it water and flowering oddly producing fruit over time.
They all taste amazing especially tomatoes
sliced thick and padded down. Then just a tad of salt on them maybe some pepper or a dark vinegar. So fucking good man so fucking good, urban farming is easy as fuck everyone should be doing it.
The yellow/green zucchinis I grow did you know the ones at the stores are harvested right away and tiny. These things grow insanely quick you will easily get massive fuckers like a foot long and wider than a pint glass. They're not fiberous and hard if you water them a lot and keep them shaded. Just slice&cube em up and fry them pure perfection. Or slice them whole in a mandolin for these massive round disks and layer them with eggplants bit of tomato sauce and some cheese on bake em for awhile NOMNOMNOM Or slice them vertically for some long ass strips and add them with lasagna or some other baked dish so fucking good.
Tl;dr fight back against zoinist produce pricing the fraud and bullshit stores pull. Did you know most produce is thrown away because its not uniform in size&shape like do you really fucking care your fruit/veggies are not the same size when buying them. THE SAVINGS IS PAST ONTO THE CUSTOMER *rubs hands* stop questioning things goyium its covids fault prices are so high even tho the futures market has been back to normal since forever or how we are offering farmers record lows in prices for fucking everything yet stores are charging the highest prices its ever been.
Grow your own stuff anon 200-500lb is easypeasy. You'd be amazed what you can do with even a small ass balcony and a dozen or two basic sized bucket.
STOP SUPPORTING KIKE FRAUD
Paying farmers nothing they go bankrupt then buying&selling their land for big bucks
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>>21901861
anon you can make anything stunted/dwarf
The coolest shit is by controlling the lighting, you can make plants automatically flower. Basically skipping the vegetative state all by giving them 12-12 lights and then switch shit to 18-6/20-4/or even go full madman stressing the plants so much with 23-1. Giving them heavy fertilizers&water controlling the temp etc. But aso once they start heavily flowering and producing fruit/veggies lowering the temp massively so at "night" its super cold forcing/stressing the plant to go OH SHIT its already that time of the year GOGOGOGOGO produce a fuckload of fruit/veggies to make seeds. Keep in mind this is all being done indoors and hydroponically but still.
You can easily stunt/dwarf them outdoors by cutting the plant or bendindddg/breaking the main stem at the top by a bit or by just not transplanting them keeping them in a small amount of soil and a small ass pot but give them a lot of water and the right amount of fertilizers with lots of good sunlight you know without burning the plants.
Agricultural botany is such a fun hobby, with a great pay off for all the effort&time spent fooling around with your plants. YOU GET TO EAT EVERYTHING! You get to produce a shit load of food, with the only costs being the first(and only if you are not retarded) time buying seeds and different fertilizers also soil/growth medium(mostly clay beads soil is free dumbdumb unless its special kinds go find it and carry it home you lazy fuck) maybe buying some cool pots. Hydro gear is cheap small aquarium pumps shrimple plastic piping buckets from restaurants or large PVC pipes from construction sites.
ALSO you know whats really fun?
Buying bulk weed seeds, make proper seed bombs.
Throwing those everywhere in public parks. So they manage to grow fully. Because there is so many even if people notice. Overtime it becomes a landrace, but because they are full of seeds,bugs&etc it'll get you high but a terrible rough smoke.
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>>21901943
this is AI slop
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choose your fighter
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>>21901954
>AI slop
>Very clearly intoxicated, with grammar that makes an India look like an ivy league PhD recipient
Fuck me anon, yeah no you're the AI. I can already see your jewish claws ree'ing typing the reply.
YES YESSSSSS GOYIM eat more round-up ready®™℠ GMO frankinfruit/veggies. Support our wasteful system, we give you the customers SAVINGS!. Eating organic is beyond antisemtic&evil, not supporting and only buying patented gods gift the goyium ROUND-UP READY®™℠ veggie/fruit varieties. Is brown third world behavior, just like growing your own fruits/veggies if you live in a first world country. God forbid you do this in a very urban environment THIS IS AMERICA *bald eagle screeches* the HOA will fine you tens of thousands of dollars for havinig a few pots growing fruits&veggies.
YOU DARE RUIN A NEIGHBORHOOD BY NOT GROWING ROUND-UP READY®™℠ grass in your front&backyard and only have ROUND-UP READY®™℠ grass growing with maybe the correct ROUND-UP READY shrubs&bushes. BY HAVING A FULL ON GARDEN THAT IS NOT THE APPROVED ROUND-UP READY®™℠ GMO PATENTED FLOWERS! YOU DARE DO SOMETHING SO THIRD WORLD CLAIMING THAT GROWING YOUR OWN FRUIT&VEGGIES IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT,SAVES YOU MONEY,CAN BE GIFTED TO OTHERS AND WORSE OF ALL CLAIM THAT SO MANY DIFFERENT PLANTS WITH DIFFERENT COLOURS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. THAT SEEING ALL THE FRUITS&VEGGIES GROWING IS WONDERFUL.
NOT ONLY THAT BUT THIS DOES SOMETHING EVEN WORSE!!!
IT ALLOWS FILTHY WILDLIFE TO INFEST YOUR YARD/BALCONY BUTTERFLIES/MOTHS BIRDS(ESPECIALLY THE DESTRUCTIVE&FILTHY HUMMING BIRDS) AND THE BIGGEST MOST DANGEROUS OFFENDERS BEES THE INSECT MONOSTANTO&DUPONT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING TO ERADICATE. BEES ARE VIOLENT CREATURES THAT VIOLATE ROUND-UP READY®™℠ PATENT BY SPREADING OUR POLLEN TO OTHER NORMAL PLANTS STEALING OUR GENES BEING THE WORST PATENT TROLLS KNOWN TO MANKIND!! THEY ARE ALSO AFRICANIZED NOW AND BEYOND DANGEROUS STINGING EVERYONE THEY NEED TO BE CLEANSE FROM THE WORLD
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>>21901802
Tell me your secrets tomatoman. What is your soil composition and what fertilisers and nutrients do you add for big reds. They don't grow in sandy soil, you must be lucky to have a good growing medium/climate without any extra work
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>>21903350
NTA, but I don't even have to fucking plant tomatoes. The ones that fall off the vine just sprout the next year. Tomatoes will literally grow in my yard. They are stupid simple to grow. I could probably take a random scoop out my compost bin and multiple tomato plants would sprout, probably even a spaghetti squash. How plant-retarded do you have to be to not be able to grow a tomato?
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>>21905249
long boys are best for sauces
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>>21905391
No I can't, an heirloom tomato is $5/lbs
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>>21905372
does the tent contain the humidity? can I still put it in my closet? I live alone and never have any guests so it doesn't really matter, but having a greenhouse tent in the middle of my living room would be weird.
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>>21901295
This desu
My ladybug, green lacewing, assassin bug, praying mantis stack had me pest free all summer last year. Was consistently getting 5lbs of beefsteaks per week from 4 plants.
This shit is not hard kek
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>>21901296
>REAL tomatoes have never been tried
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>>21905514
>having a greenhouse tent in the middle of my living room would be weird
Kek that’s exactly what I do and it’s awesome. These two are for herbs and other weird shit I’m working on. Got one a littler bigger than these two combined for veggie projects
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>>21907195
German Chamomile
Had a little trouble initially just because they like it just SO light and airy. Now they’re growing like champs!
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I got a Maglia Rosa start from my neighbor last year, some of the tastiest tomatoes I've ever had, highly recommended.
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>>21906658
that looks kind of cool I wonder if you can get a big cabinet kind of thing with doors instead of that zip up cover. like those things boomers have in their dining rooms but with plants instead of useless collections of plates.
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my grandpa refused to grow anything but black krims and we ended up with like 300 pounds of them every single fucking year
You can't do shit with them but eat them in some raw form, and as delicious as they were, it gets exhausting having a big ass slice of very assertive TOMATO in every sandwich, with salt at every meal, chopped on top of omelettes at breakfast
Sauce made with them was only attempted once out of "fuck they're going bad" necessity and sucked ass
Fuck you for reading my blog
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>>21907628
That’s a super cool idea and you could definitely do it. Would likely have to be DIY but you’d just need the lights, a desk fan, and some water proof mats. Then you could do it to basically any cabinet, even a goodwill one. Just hang bar lights under the shelves and at the top. Also make sure to add a some ventilation and a hole or two for power cable management. Timer on the wall outlet so you never have to remember it yourself and you’d be golden!
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>>21909624
This is for you
>>21907559
What the hell is a mortgage lifter
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>>21909701
Yeah, they’d probably be solid for that.
>QRD on growing tomatoes for beginners
>starting things from seed is the cheapest but a little harder for absolute beginners. Consider buying the 3 inch starters from your local nursery.
>there are two types of tomato variety even among cultivars: determinate and indeterminate. Determinate grows the fruit all at once and you harvest pretty much all at once, indeterminate grows a long vine all season and you can pick tomatoes weekly. This will ALWAYS be indicated on a tomato seed packet or container label. Very important to know about your plants. (mortgage lifters are indeterminate)
>planting in ground is totally fine. I like the fabric pots myself, easier to control things. Go for the 7 gallon ones if you choose that. Yeah it’s a lot of dirt, but you want a big plant so you need a sturdy base.
>you’re gonna have to get comfortable with fertilizer. Fact. This scares people but you don’t want to be one of those gardenlets who spends all season growing 4 tomatoes.
>if you are nervous about fertilizer, apply it at 1/4 strength. Almost nothing will happen except you growing confident that you won’t kill them
>buy powder fertilizer that you dilute and then water down into the soil. The little sticks or whatever are stupid.
>read the fucking DIRECTIONS on the fertilizer. Sometimes the dose for one gallon of water covers 10 square feet. Your pots are much smaller than 10 square feet most likely. Pay attention.
>you are GOING to need to support these plants. The flimsy little cages are NOT going to be enough. Get thicker steel ones that are quite tall. 5-7 feet ideally. Plant these at the same time as you transplant the seedlings or starters so you don’t disturb the roots later
>I use the “single lead method” it’s easy and works great. You can find a YouTube video.
>cont
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>>21909722
>if you do that, you WILL need study and tall stakes. Put the stake next to the stem when you transplant. Don’t want to disturb roots and you’ll be tying off to it later.
>you don’t need to tie off SHIT until the plant is two or three feet tall. You tie it loosely to support it when it can no longer support its own weight on the upward growth. Resist the urge to put it in bondage kek. You’re just supporting it so it can get tall.
>pick tomatoes when they’re about halfway red. By that point all of the compounds that make the fruit “taste like a tomato” are already produced and it just ripens. Taking it now prevents cracking, gets it away from predators, and gets it off the plant sooner so that water/energy is redirected toward the new fruit
I think that’s most of it!
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>>21909722
Save your eggshells.
If the tomatoes start getting blossom end rot you can sprinkle crushed eggshells around the base and it'll give the plant calcium.
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>>21909723
Fuck. Mulch
You NEED mulch. Get the cedar stuff. It will be maybe 4 dollars for a big bag of it. It keeps the soil more moist below, prevents other shit (like little mushrooms and shit) from sprouting at the dirt line, and helps prevent pests a little too. A one or two inch layer on top is fine. This is more necessary that I can really express for any type of gardening. A lot of people just skip it for some reason.
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>>21911435
>7 days
Spot fucking on for good germination conditions. Nice work, anon! Keep it up
What’s your germination rate so far?
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bros im starting tomatoes from seeds for the first time this year
how much of a meme is hardening them off? i live in an apartment and grow in a community garden, so i dont have any place outside to put them for a few hours a day for a week
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Hardening off is not at all a meme.
Couple options I guess and maybe another anon has a better idea- but basically you need moving air to strengthen the stems and to get them used to the temperature change. Kind of like how when you buy a goldfish, you put the unopened bag in the new water for a while to harmonize the temperatures and not shock the fish. Sort of
So firstly, if you’re going to try for 0 or extremely limited hardening time: get a fan that blows on the seedlings. Rotate them day by day but this helps strengthen your stems
Secondly, the ultimate goal of this is to help them adapt to a new temperature. You could do this by setting them in a wide open window. It’d be a lot less effective than sitting outside but could work.
One of those dual window fans where one pulls in air and the other exhausts could serve both purposes. Your apartment would get quite cold obviously.
You could also keep them inside longer (with proper airflow) so that when you do finally plant them, it’s farther into the season and warmer. That’ll likely stunt them a little and might take several more weeks depending on climate where you live.
Really the main point is that you need moving air and to acclimate them to a lower temperature. It’s not a meme. Your seedlings will be rather unhappy if you skip this part, if not straight up die.
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>>21912042
already have a fan, so im good in that dept.
is a sunny window in the afternoon enough for the UV exposure? (i only have west facing windows)
i heard the leaves will burn outside because theyre not adapted to the UV. thats my main concern.
thanks for the info!
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>>21912049
Yeah you’d want to find a way to get them some direct sun and acclimate them to that too. I have heard of planters that hang on the outside of windows, but I’m a suburbfag so I don’t know how truly feasible that is. An LED grow light might do well for you here. It absolutely will not replicate the intensity of full sun but it would be a hell of a lot better than window sun alone. Added bonus is that you could supplement nice light on overcast days. You can find some on Amazon for around $30. It’s just for tomatoes seedlings indoors so you don’t need top of the line anything; don’t get upsold on stonertech if you do go that route.
Signs that your plants are having trouble with light
>getting stretchy or leggy, long stem between leaves
>pale green color
>very soft leaves
Just watch them over time as well. If you know anybody else who gardens (or visit the community garden where other people are doing it), just check the leaves on the outdoor tomato plants and mentally compare to your own. You think yours can compete? You’re probably right, tomatoes are pretty easy to grow all in all. You feel insecure and mogged? Gotta get that light up
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>>21900834
A hell of a drunken good time if the name is any indication.
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>>21911968
Huge.
My land gets very windy and after transplanting half of them end up bending over onto the ground.
Last year I made some plastic barriers to shelter them from most of the wind.
Usually harden them off in my garage with an oscillating fan set at low aimed at them.