>>21906902
Ease into it. Protein shake. A light salad with beans for fiber and protein. A lite soup is fine.

>>21906932
would you end the fast at 48 hours or would you push through those +24 hours to make it 72? I didn't expect the 2 days mark to be this brutal LOL but I'm hydrating and making sure I'm all good on sodium, magnesium, potasium.

>>21906902
fasting is a good way to end up fat.

>>21906967
>if you stop eating u become fat
congratulations, you're biggest retard golem ever!

>>21906969
I find most of his posts annoying, but he's right.

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>>21906972
are you actually, mentally retarded? Or are you just a fat subhuman coping in overdrive mode?

>The longest officially recorded fast is 382 days, achieved by Angus Barbieri, a 27-year-old Scottish man, who did not consume any solid food from June 1965 to July 1966. Under medical supervision, he lived on water, tea, coffee, soda water, and prescribed vitamins, losing 276 pounds (125 kg) and dropping from 456 lbs to 180 lbs.

Seems he didn't gain a single gram, the opposite happened, he lost weight.

>>21906936
I'm
>>21906932
and no I wouldn't fast at all. I've worked in nutrition, have a degree in baking and pastry. Just moderation dude, everything I'm moderation, with lots of protein for satiety and fiber to keep you clean.

>>21906978
You'll likely gain it all back because fasting destroys your muscle (making fat storage easier) and it doesn't actually teach you how to eat in a way that doesn't make you fat.

>lardass supreme cope already
wow

>>21906902
that pic made me fart two times simultaneously

>>21907023
did you shart a bit too?

My dad fasted for 21 days once, only water, he said after a few days you stop being hungry.

>>21907061
you dad sounds like a really based man. Was he fat and wanted to lose weight? It's a monumental feat of willpower anyways so big ups to your pops!

>>21906902
this nigga eatin Corn!

>>21906978
Didn't he die shortly after?

>>21907305
of course not you stupid retarded landwhale, he lived until 1990

>>21906902
>How would you break a prolonged fast?
With liver, to make sure I get a buttload of minerals and vitamins in my system before I start hammering my endocrine system with real meals. But a 48 or 72 hour fast isn't "prolonged", that's just missing a few meals. A prolonged fast is more like a month or more.

>>21906989
>fasting destroys your muscle
it doesn't though.

>>21907061
I've done multiple 30-day water-only fasts (found out by accident that it fixes my migraines for a few years) and your dad is correct.

OP here, 52 hours in already, I've decided to go and push for those 72, only 20 hours to go anyways and I sincerely hope 8 to 10 hours can be spent sleeping.

Almost there bros!

>>21906902
eggs

>>21907417
72 hours is 3 days anon
80-90 hours (more if youre a fat lardfuck) is when ketosis kicks in and hunger disappears completely
you've likely never experienced a single moment in your life where you arent either preparing for a meal or finishing one, so total digestive silence will be very interesting for you

>>21906902
AYCE sushi or a chionese buffet

>>21906902
>Fasting
Just eat one meal a day. I fast for 24 hours on a regular basis. Fasting for extended periods is not healthy. Neither is eating 3 meals a day.

>>21906902
>>21906932
>Ease into it
Contrary to this conventional 'wisdom', one should feast and gorge.
As the benefits from fasting stem from biological adaption to famine, one should expect when applying the same logic that there will be benefits from post-fast feasting, as any animal would do so when confronted with a food source after a period of hunger or near-starvation.

>>21907316
So he did die then! You Absolute Dumb Fuck

>>21907629
>shortly after
>30 fucking years later is apparently shorty after
you're retarded and fat

>>21907417
Is your fasting goal just weight loss related or something else?

>>21907687
nope, I don't really care about weight loss or health benefits, I just like to push myself through uncomfortable stuff like a 3 days fast. Helps me remember I'm the one in control of my body, not the other way around. Tomorrow I'll eat again.

>>21907060
fortunately not
it was very helpful when i went to the toilet later though

>>21907694
That's dumb

>>21907389
That's nice, dear.

>>21906902
Stop thinking about what you're going to break your fast with, you fat fuck. You've already done 48 hours, why would you want to undo that?

Something light, soup is a great choice, I usually do soup when breaking a fast especially one that's more than 48 hours.

>>21907879
>t. Faggot without a single ounce of willpower

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Break fast with healthy noodles.

>>21908237
this shit would fucking MELT OP's stomach lmao why are you fuckers like this?

OP here, only 4 more hours to go till the 72 hours mark!!! YAY!

I have made up my mind, I will eat a simple miso soup with a couple of very thin slices of mushroom. Man I can't wait to sip on that fermented glory or umami!

>>21907694
>>21908322
That's great to hear, more people should take control of their lives

>>21908241
Kek I ended a fast with Domino's once, the results were messy

>>21908237
this is the worst food

>>21908362
appreciate it broski, I'm watering at the mouth just thinking about that miso soup in 2 hours and a half

ONLY ONE MORE HOUR OMG NOW I'M ACTUALLY GETTING HUNGRY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>21906902
a couple shots of whiskey and a cigarette. you will feel amazing

>>21908551
>yeah just FUCK MY SHIT UP fäm, I didn't even liked having a stomach lining anyways

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OP here, this was the bad boy I chose to break the 72 hours fast. IT WAS FUCKING DELICIOUS, THE BEST MISO I'VE EVER HAD.

Thanks to all anons who were around in the thread, your posts made me keep going strong, much love!

Can't wait to do this again in 4-6 months

Damn I've never fasted once in my life

>>21906902
never did 72s but doing 48s i would break with a bit of broth + crackers then make a stir fry

>>21909065
If I had a 2 day fast I'd probably die lol.

>>21908672
Looks bretty good, congrats on your ghrelin quellin

>>21908672
Glad you're brain finally got some nutrition after a few days of nothing.

>>21906902
I don't want to say what I ate when I went off my 72 hour fast this morning because people will make fun of me for it sounding like keto shit. But it was a lot and included a bowl of very hot (as in capsaicin) chili leftovers I made before the fast started, probably like 1200 calories all together. I have been doing these fasts since the fall and have lost a lot of weight by overall calorie restriction even though I still eat heavily on the days I do eat.

>>21907061
Going without some kid of electrolyte fix will drive you crazy in a few days so I assume he drank some pickle juice or something.

>>21909481
He drank his pee.

>>21907620
but evolutionarily it would be much more common for the starved animal to find a small amount of food to break the fast than find a feast

>>21907061
>after a few days you stop being hungry.
i just don't understand that. for me the easiest is the first 24 hours. i imagine because you're still burning your muscle glycogen. after that, it only got harder and harder. then again the longest i've gone is 84 hours and i was VERY irritable and unable to focus at that point. and yes i was drinking electrolytes

>>21909649
Do your electrolytes happen to have sucralose? I tried sucralose and it made me feel awful during my fast, super hungry and shaky and headachey. I felt better without it.
But in general, my fasts have all been pretty miserable. None of this "I felt so energized and alert" nonsense. And they don't get easier.

>>21909656
Same, first day is nothing for me and I plan to just start eating one day on one day off once I reach a normal weight to maintain while still eating well when I eat (still fat after losing 80 pounds right now). I don't get irritated or sick but I do feel very dopey on day three and in conversations I become an "uhh" machine.

>>21909656
>Do your electrolytes happen to have sucralose?
no. i don't use those pre-mixed packets

OP here, the only not so fun part was the very first shit after 72 of a radio silent digestive track. It was not an easy shit, a lot of pushing and it was like shitting play-doh lol, 0 consistency and a FOUL FUCKING SMELL. Reminded me of baby shits but now I've shat for a 2nd time and this one was way way better, still doughy but way better.

Least favorite part of the experience, overall.

>>21908555
checked

tummy will hurt for a little bit but the euphoria will take over shortly into the tummyache

>>21906902
you don't really have to be too cautious with breaking 1-3 day fasts, just avoid sugar, carbs, and other foods that spike blood sugar; your pancreas needs to adjust to eating again.

>>21909906
you've never fasted a single day in your fat fuck life, don't try to pretend like you know what you're talking about.

SIT DOWN FATTY

>>21909906
from what i've read you only need to ease back into it for fasts longer than 3 days.

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>>21906989
Based on one of the only true nutrition and diet studies that can be considered valid, the Minnesota Starvation Study, you can lose large amounts of fat rapidly without endangering muscle if you do it right. Most people don't do it right because they don't know the math and just pick a calorie deficit target that they don't adjust.
In general, your body can convert roughly 0.8% of stored body fat per day into usable energy. If your calorie deficit exceeds that amount, it will restore the balance. Depending on your current circumstance, it might make use of a buffer like your glycogen stores. If that's not available, it might communicate fatigue so you'll lessen your calorie expenditure. Push through that, and it will target other pathways, like breaking down muscle to convert into energy.
Stay below the the 0.8% threshold and you should be fine. The issue is that the max calorie deficit changes as the amount of stored body fat lessens. Start a diet with 100 lbs of fat on you, you can use 0.8 lbs of that for energy. Meaning about 2800 calories. When you lose 50 lbs, now you can only burn 0.4 lbs of fat per day, making the max calorie deficit 1400.
For the man mentioned in >>21906978, in his later days of the diet, it is likely he started burning muscle, which might have been ok for him as the muscle he needed to support his immense weight no longer had that use. Adding in some food towards the end could have prevented the muscle loss but continuing his pattern was more important.

>>21909934
literally no one cares what you've read retard. Don't talk if you haven't done it yourself, armchair expert.

>>21909954
i have done extended fasts upwards of 10 days you presumptuous faggot. eat shit.

>>21909971
why are larpers so utterly retarded and stupid? at least say 4-5 days so a couple of tards like yourself can actually believe the lie. It's clear as day that you haven't fast for longer than 10 hours, absolutely sad and the doubling down is just pathetic on top it.

>>21906902
Break your focus on your hunger instead of your fast, and your self discipline too...
Oh, it's already too late. I know.
Tea and almonds? Water and cashews? Idk. Up to you.

>>21909952
Man, you can just see those genetics.

>>21906978
>Angus Barbieri
>Scottish
>White

>>21910018
Maybe the romans called some Scot a barbarian and it stuck for 2000 years

>>21909974
>l-larp!
so fucking pathetic lmao

>>21910116
>I-I've read online that...
gets called out and told to fuck off with the armchair retardation
>A-ACKSHUALLY I'VE DONE 10 DAYS M-MYSELF U DUMMY!!!
LMAOOOO sure you did retard, sure you did. Keep larping and seething.

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>aneurysm over being called out
lmao
kid i've lost 80 pounds in 2 months from extended fasting and with no loose skin. nothing you say can rustle my jimmies. don't bother replying again, but i know you will. i can already hear you typing through your tears.

>retard still seething and malding because he was called out on his retarded larp
kek, must suck being so pathetic

>>21910188
NTA but is not eating such an accomplishment

>he's now trying to samefag as another anon
damn, is larping really this important to you? must be a lonely life

>>21909633
They wouldnt be picky, but the inclination would be to fill up as much as possible—opportunistic eating compelled to feast and gorge.

The key is intuitive fast/feast cycle eating (intuitive eating/intuitive fasting) to regulate abundance of food and junk-food.

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>>21906902
Every muscle and cell in your body uses glucose for fuel. Your brain and nervous system runs on glucose. Your kidneys and red blood cells cannot survive without glucose. Your body will cannibalize muscle tissue to make more glucose. You can only store about 24 hours worth of glucose in your body. Your tongue is built to crave sweets and your saliva has multiple enzymes in it that specifically target starches to break down their chemical bonds to release glucose more rapidly. The bacteria in your gut will cause you to crave glucose if it is not available. Every minute that you go without eating, these problems will become more and more severe, until you listen to your body's survival instincts to eat food.

>>21909952
The subjects involved in the Minnesota Starvation study were found to have smaller internal organs by the end of the study. They had not only smaller heart volume, but reduced lean body mass, indicating that muscle and organ tissue were catabolized for fuel due to severe caloric restriction. This is one of the many reasons why starvation experiments are no longer allowed.

>>21909633
>A starving animal would ignore a large pile of food and instead choose to eat a tiny slither of food if given the chance
Fucking tard

>>21910293
>a starving animal is more likely to find a feast than it is to find a single limited source of food
where you dropped on your head as a child?

>>21910270
>he fell for it
golems are just something else entirely
>go eat a chocolate bar breh! It's been 15 mins without GLUCOSE OMG THE BRAIN IS LITERALLY DYING U NEED TO EAT ALL DAY LONG

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>>21910514
You realize that the calories in chocolate is mostly fat, right?
>535 Calories per 100g
>Fat: 270 Calories
>Sugars: 224 Calories

>>21910270
This statement is a mix of fundamental biological facts and alarmist exaggerations designed to frame modern overconsumption as a critical survival necessity.
Biologically, it is a "half-truth"—it uses real science to reach a misleading conclusion that ignores human metabolic flexibility.
1. What is Factually True
Glucose Dependence: It is true that the brain, nervous system, and kidneys primarily use glucose. Red blood cells exclusively require glucose because they lack mitochondria to process other fuels.
Storage Limits: Your body stores a limited amount of glucose as glycogen in the liver and muscles. These stores typically last 12 to 24 hours during a normal fast (like overnight).
Evolutionary Cravings: Humans are biologically "wired" to seek sweets. Salivary amylase begins breaking down starches into glucose immediately in the mouth. This evolved because high-energy foods were once scarce and vital for survival.
2. Where it is Misleading (The "Justification")
The statement turns these facts into a justification for overeating by omitting how the body actually handles a lack of food:
"Cannibalize muscle tissue": While the body can convert protein to glucose (gluconeogenesis), it does not immediately "eat" your muscles the moment you stop eating. In a fasting state, the body prioritizes burning stored body fat for energy.

>>21910270
>>21910768

The Power of Ketosis: The brain does not only run on glucose; it can adapt to run on ketones derived from body fat. This allows humans to survive for days or weeks without any food at all.
"Problems become more severe every minute": This is highly exaggerated. Healthy humans have a "metabolic switch" that maintains blood sugar levels by using fat and manufacturing its own glucose internally. You do not enter a survival crisis "every minute" you aren't eating; you simply transition to using stored energy.
Gut Bacteria: While some research suggests gut microbes can influence cravings, the idea that they "force" you to eat glucose to prevent a survival crisis is a simplification of a complex relationship.
Final Verdict
This is pseudoscientific justification for overeating. It presents the body as a fragile machine on the verge of collapse without constant fuel. In reality, the human body is an energy-storage specialist designed to thrive during periods without food by burning its own fat.
Lay down the fork, fatso.

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>>21910770
The brain does not run on only ketones when fasting. It still requires glucose created in the liver by breaking down amino acids and triglycerides. Hence, you are still burning muscle during ketosis, unless you are eating another source of protein. You can get energy from fat, but you can't get enough energy to replenish your muscles glycogen stores or to fully fuel your brain. Your body then has to create insulin resistance to divert the small amount of glucose your body can make while fasting to the brain instead of the muscles. So while doing a ketogenic diet, you are giving yourself insulin resistance, which is a precursor to diabetes. If you're not eating at least 100g per day of carbs, you're probably undereating.

>>21910819
This statement is a classic example of "sophistry"—taking high-level physiological concepts and twisting them to reach a false conclusion. While it contains grains of truth about biochemistry, the logic regarding insulin resistance and muscle wasting is fundamentally flawed.

Explanation:
The Facts
The Brain's Glucose Requirement: Even in deep ketosis, the brain still requires about 20-30% of its energy from glucose. It cannot run 100% on ketones.
Gluconeogenesis: The liver does indeed create glucose from non-carbohydrate sources (amino acids from protein and glycerol from triglycerides) to maintain stable blood sugar levels.
Physiological Insulin Resistance: During fasting or keto, muscles temporarily become less sensitive to insulin. This is a real phenomenon called "glucose sparing," where muscles "refuse" glucose to ensure the brain gets the limited supply available.

>>21910819
>>21910821
Misinformation:
"You are burning muscle during ketosis": This is highly misleading. In a state of ketosis, the body becomes "protein-sparing." Growth hormone levels rise significantly to protect muscle tissue, and the body prioritizes burning fat (lipolysis) for fuel. You only "cannibalize" significant muscle if your body fat is dangerously low or you are starving for extended periods.
"Precursor to diabetes": This is a false equivalence. Pathological insulin resistance (Type 2 Diabetes) is caused by chronically high insulin and blood sugar. Physiological insulin resistance (from keto/fasting) is a healthy, reversible adaptation. Once you eat carbs again, this "resistance" vanishes within a meal or two. It does not cause diabetes; in fact, low-carb diets are a primary clinical tool for reversing Type 2 Diabetes.
"Can't get enough energy to fuel the brain": If this were true, humans would have gone extinct. The liver is extremely efficient at producing the exact amount of glucose needed via gluconeogenesis. You do not need to eat 100g of carbs to "fuel the brain"; the body makes what it needs.
"100g of carbs or you're undereating": Total calories determine if you are undereating, not the specific ratio of carbohydrates. There is no biological requirement for dietary carbohydrates; there are essential fatty acids and essential amino acids, but no "essential carbohydrate."

imagine if all that effort you put in coping like this was spent doing exercise or eating better lol

>>21910822
Thanks, ChatGPT bro. So what did we learn today?

1. You need to eat carbs to reverse insulin resistance or you get type 2 diabetes.
2. If you are fasting (not eating calories), you are undereating, and you will burn muscle.
3. Ketosis may be "muscle sparing", but only when you are eating food, not when you are starving yourself.

>>21910837
This person is doubling down on a flawed metabolic model that treats the human body like a simple fireplace (if you don't throw wood in, the house freezes) rather than a sophisticated battery-powered hybrid.
Here is the "Wheat vs. Chaff" analysis of those three specific claims:
1. "You need to eat carbs to reverse insulin resistance or you get T2 Diabetes."
The Chaff (The Lie): This is biologically backward. Type 2 Diabetes is essentially "carbohydrate intolerance." Telling someone with insulin resistance to eat carbs to fix it is like telling someone with a sunburn to sit in the sun to heal it.
The Wheat (The Fact): There is a niche concept called "Physiological Insulin Resistance" (also known as Adaptive Glucose Sparing). When you don't eat carbs, your muscles "lock" their doors to glucose to save every drop for your brain. This is a healthy adaptation, not a disease. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism notes that this is instantly reversed the moment you eat carbs.
Verdict: This is a total misunderstanding of pathology vs. physiology.
2. "If you are fasting, you are undereating, and you will burn muscle."
The Chaff (The Lie): This assumes the body has no access to energy if it doesn't come through the mouth. If you have body fat, you are not "undereating"—you are eating a "high-fat diet" made of your own stored tissues.
The Wheat (The Fact): If you are at 4% body fat (starvation level), yes, you will burn muscle. But for the average person, the body is highly protein-sparing.
The Science: During a fast, Growth Hormone (HGH) spikes dramatically. According to research published on PubMed, HGH rises to protect lean muscle mass and bone density while the body shifts to burning fat.

>>21910837
>>21910841
3. "Ketosis is only 'muscle sparing' when you eat, not when you're starving."
The Chaff (The Lie): This is the biggest contradiction. Ketosis is literally a survival mechanism specifically designed for when food is not available.
The Wheat (The Fact): When you are in "nutritional ketosis" (eating fat), you have exogenous fuel. When you are "starving" (fasting), you have endogenous fuel (body fat).
The Reality: Beta-hydroxybutyrate (the main ketone body) acts as a signaling molecule that tells the body to stop breaking down protein. This is why humans can fast for long periods without losing significant muscle, whereas on a "low calorie, high carb" diet, you lose more muscle because insulin stays high and blocks fat burning.
Summary of the "Defense Mechanism"
This person is terrified of the word "Starvation." They are conflating Fasting (a controlled choice to use stored energy) with Starving (the involuntary wasting away of a body with no energy reserves).
They are essentially arguing that humans are the only animal on Earth that forgot how to use its own body fat for fuel.

Your cope has become quite sad, I guess you'll stuff those cheeks today in seethe and pain

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>>21910841
>>21910843
Hey look, I can do the same thing.

>he's still coping

LMAO, go eat something fatty, you haven't gorged that mouth in 3 minutes and 15 seconds, THE BRAIN IS LITERALLY DYING HURRY HURRY!

>>21910849
do you realize your own image says starvation takes 3 weeks to reduce 5% of muscle mass? How in your fat retard brain can you compare this with a 3 day long fast? lol.

>>21910854
It must suck not being able to come up with an argument without plugging a question into AI.

>>21910856
damn, you really are quadrupling down on the retardation, must suck being a fat fuck in this level of deep denial

>>21910855
>potentially up to 20% in severe cases
i think no food intake at all qualifies as a severe case of starvation. it might be closer to 5% when some food intake is still happening.

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>STILL COPING
man you are actually stupid, in your fat retard brain fasting is a killing tool, not a normal human mechanism lmao

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>>21910855
>losing 7.5 to 10 pounds of muscle in only 3 weeks is not a big deal
Even in the early stages of fasting, your body is breaking down protein (muscle) for fuel. You can't store protein anywhere but in the muscle. You're losing muscle even as we speak.

>what weighting 400 lbs does to a mf

>>21910419
I didn't say that. You are either a retard or an ESL with shockingly poor reading comprehension.

>>21910868
That's dumb. If human bodies immediately started cannibalizing the muscle tissues after a few days without food, they never would've survived as hunter gatherers. The body's energy stores are the glycogen first and then stored body fat.

>>21911223
he's just a fatman with a very elaborate cope to justify eating 24/7

>>21906932
>protein shake
seems like a good way to shit your guts out and end up in a hospital dumbass
t. did 2 weeks

Been over 9 months since my last fast. Used to be religious about it but have been slacking. New job, new co-workers. The topic of strange accomplishments come up and I share I once did a 21 day water fast and used to be more then double my current weight. They got interested and asked shitloads of questions. They are not land whales but they are absolutely overweight for the most part. They asked if I would do a fast with them for a week. I doubted they could last but it's day 4 and only 4/5 are still with it. Kind of impressed.

>>21911223
>The body's energy stores are the glycogen first and then stored body fat.
You can only store about 12-24 hours of glycogen before you have to start converting protein to new glycogen by breaking down muscle.

>>21906902
72 hours is nothing you can eat normally. Only when you hit 6-8 days do you have to worry about easing into. Protip be near a bathroom after you break your fast or you will soil yourself.

I do 14 day fasts and sometimes 40 like Christ.

I lost 180lb fasting and only have to do once a year to maintain my weight.

Lil nigga loves that corn

>>21910822
trvth nuke

>>21910822
>You do not need to eat 100g of carbs to "fuel the brain"; the body makes what it needs.
The same is also true for cholesterol but you likely wouldn't treat cholesterol the same way you treat carbs.

Your muscles can still store and burn more carbs than your body can make. Carbs help hydration which is why low carb diets often have complaints about dehydration and needing more electrolytes.

Your body being able to make what's necessary to function doesn't mean it's optimal.