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where did the misconception that this is plastic or fake come from? it's literally just cheese that has been melted and mixed with an emulsifier.
It has been around for over 100 years
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>>21910241
A lot of the cheaper ones ("standard" Kraft singles included but not the "deluxe") are less than 50% cheese and so can't legally call themselves cheese in the US.
Retards hear about this fact and then their mind immediately jumps to the rest being whatever boogeyman they believe is hiding in all the "bad" food because they're too stupid to look up ingredients. I've heard everything from synthetic polymers to sneed oils. It's even funnier when these morons thing this applies to all cheese in America because the product is called "American cheese."
As anyone who's ever actually looked it up for 5 minutes knows: the non-cheese stuff is just milk and milk products like whey.
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>>21910259
>They're not misconceptions. They're pejoratives.
See: >>21910263
The pejoratives used reflect genuine misconceptions about the product.
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>>21910280
Who cares what idiots think? Singles have their uses but objectively can not be labelled as cheese because they lack the neccesary purity.
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>>21910241
Retarded people would directly light it with a lighter and because it understandably burned and developed soot because that’s what happens when you light something with a lighte up close, such fucking retards started calling it plastic.
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>>21910265
New study shows having literally any counter corporate sentiment is linked to having a small penis and being an incel!
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>>21910412
That stuff's for vegans. That package probably costs more than Kraft.
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>>21910418
>That stuff's for vegans.
Stop coping . . . . .you are embarrassing yourself.
Here is vegan stuff.
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whats the difference between velveeta and kraft? i thought they were the same thing?
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>>21910421
It's imitation cheese. It's marketed specifically for people that explicitly don't want or can't have cheese.
I can even tell you where to find it. It's fucking Raley's brand. They sell singles of "normal" American cheese as well.
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>>21910455
And compare that to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbSUvsgJgBs
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>>21910438
Velveeta has less cheese and is almost entirely milk solids. American cheese melts smoothly but retains some of its original texture so it's great for sandwiches. Velveeta is better for sauces because it fully liquefies.
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>>21910280
Why are there cheese shilling jeets on /ck/? This shit is absolutely riddled with microplastics and it's at least 60% gutter oil. It's literally goyslop plastic fake cheese and you are only harming your own health eating it
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>>21910588
>cheese shilling jeets
80% of jeets are lactose intolerant, Sanjay. Cheese is quintessentially white and it makes you angry that you can't eat your god's milk without firehosing shit out of your smelly asshole. Or maybe it makes you hapoy that it has that effect on you, you people literally worship poop after all
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>>21910461
We said we did but we're just as big of shitty liars
>>21910588
Checked
This board is shockingly full of corporate product shills
>>21910998
What the fuck are you on about, keep your poop fetish to yourself
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>>21910392
our cheese and beer wins world contests, bread... we have bakeries dipshit, thanksgiving dinner i'll give you based on the shit some people make, chemical meat... not even sure what you are on about there specifically but i'm guessing hormones and antibiotics, to which don't really care till it actually effects me and me alone (you get fucked over by our antibiotic use as well) and as for food hygiene standards, there are few countries stricter than ours, but that's probably not what you care about because you would be below them as well, we both have different processes for making sure food is sanitary, i'm going to guess you are from europe, you put bans on how we process and sanitize our food so we can't sell it on import for cheaper than you can make at home, its not that ours are worse, its you needed to protect yourself.
and because you are in europe most likely, you have far more lax regulations on what you are required to list on ingredients, its a large reason why yours looks 'healthier' than ours.
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the truth is kinda funny, we found out you could put 20-40% sawdust in food before people realized it was there, this is what caused laws against non food items being inside food to happen in the first place.
kinder eggs were just an unimportant casualty in enforcement by letter of the law.
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>>21910418
>That stuff's for vegans
according to the ingredient list on this website it's not even vegetarian:
https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrition-facts/537550/wt1/
it contains gelatin, which requires killing animals.
it also has cheese in it, just a very low amount of cheese compared to its main ingredients, which are water, soybean oil and starch.
compared to actual american process cheese, which is mainly cheese, butter, and milk solids, that's pretty rancid.
according to the same website, this >>21910421
stuff is also not vegan. it also has cheese and cream on the ingredient list, just less than real american process cheese.
it also has sodium phosphate as it's third ingredient, which is a normal ingredient for process cheese, but not in that amount.
sodium phosphate is, besides being an emulsifier to make process cheese melt right, used as a laxative, and in such large quantities you might get the shits after a few slices of this stuff.
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>>21910241
Classic case of the bell curve exposing the midwit.
You ask a stupid person why they think American cheese is plastic
>it looks like plastic and it tastes like plastic!
Ask a midwit
>wtf, it doesn't taste or look like plastic, it's just cheese with sodium citrate
ask an intelligent person
>visually it looks like shiny plastic and it comes in plastic packaging which coats every single slice with microplastics which makes the cheese smell like plastic. The cheese itself isn't made out of plastic but it smells and looks like plastic, so people form the association. It's one of the top sources of microplastic in our diet. You are literally eating plastic.
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>>21911226
that's only the individually packaged slices though.
there are packages sold like pic related where you get the same slices of american process cheese without the individual plastic foil packaging.
there's also blocks of velveeta cheese which touches a lot less packaging foil.
still looks like plastic because it's cast like plastic instead of being pressed and dried like normal cheese, but that's only visual.
when it comes to microplastics, bioaccumulation is a big factor, meaning that even good cheese tends to have a shitton of microplastics, because it came from a cow, which is a big animal that eats a lot of food and microplastics to produce a lot less food with the same amount of microplastics concentrated within.
small vegetarian animals are generally less bad than big ones or omnivorous or carnivorous ones.
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>>21910249
>he doesn't know to take the wrapper off before eating it
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>>21910241
>mixed with an emulsifier
And water. It's not legally cheese because it's not cheese, it's thinned out bullshit.
>>21910267
I know exactly what it is. It's cheese dissolved in a mixture of water and sodium citrate. It tastes shitty and normal cheese melts anyways.
>>21910280
Sodium citrate is a non-natural additive
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>>21912142
Are these people incapable of reading ingredients labels or something?
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>>21912150
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE THING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE OF A BUT IS WATERED DOWN WITH B IS SUPPPOSED TO BE SHITTY!
Eat your goyslop piggie!
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>>21912162
The thing that gets me about morons like you is I'm not even a fan of American cheese in most applications. But it excels in one application where other cheeses fail. It melts to a consistency that is literally impossible to replicate otherwise.
(Btw, you can get American cheese that is legally cheese sp even your core premise is retarded).
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>>21910392
Where are you from again? Oh wait no one cares.
>thanksgiving dinners
A roast turkey with stuffing, gravy, vegetables, and mashed potatoes is something you mock? I take it back I want to know what shit hole you infest.
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>>21912911
unless you're a north korean peasant, your country's supermarkets sell american cheese and you have as much of a choice to buy it or not as the average american does
some asian countries might not even sell actual cheese, whereas americans have that option.
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>>21913130
they sell american cheese in europe, japan, south korea, china and south america
i know i mentioned north korea specifically, but rural africa and pacific islands count too
if a country has grocery stores and cheese, it has pasteurized process cheese.
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>>21913156
it's swiss and inspired by fondue
processed cheese is as swiss as the swiss cheese. you don't like swiss cheese?
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>>21913209
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-type_cheeses
americans just call emmental cheese 'swiss' and then specify gruyère or otherwise for the other less common types
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>>21913218
Cope
We . . .must .. .protect . . .our . . .plastic . . .cheese flavored food product.
H-h-honestly it's it's just like real cheese!
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>>21913231
dude i'm from yurop too and you southern freaks eat nutella all the time how the fuck can you pretend processed cheese is bad while you're addicted to nutella like a yank is to peanut butter
processed cheese is swiss, deal with it.
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>>21913239
>dude i'm from yurop too
My great- great - grandmother saw a picture of the Eifel Tower, so she is part German and 23 and me tests showed I am 3% European.
>B-b-b-but whatabout Nutella?
Typical deflection.
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>>21913281
>Imagine thinking you can simply dodge the nutella bullet like that
I don't think you understand.
Americans are not shy about telling Euros the USA is the same size as Europe but what Americans don't realise is that travelling through Europe is a lot more different than going from a blue state to a red state and different sales tax.
Each 'State' in Europe has a whole different culture, language, scenery, government and food than the next.
Have you not noticed that Italians eat completely different foods than the Norwegians? You should get a passport kid.
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>>21913321
last time i traveled inside the EU i didn't really need a passport. not sure if they changed it again though with all the 3rdies and post-soviet burglars everywhere. maybe they check poor looking people more carefully.
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>>21913345
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese
> Processed cheese was first developed in Switzerland in 1911, when Walter Gerber and Fritz Stettler, seeking a cheese with longer shelf life and influenced by fondue and cheese sauces, added sodium citrate to melted Emmentaler cheese and found that the emulsified cheese sauce could be re-cooled into a solid again
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>>21913367
>i think most people agree with me
Yeah . . . .. . wave your American flag.
Meanwhile the rest of the world rolls their eyes and just let you get on with it.
Americans remind me of little kids who believe in Santa Claus, you just pat them on the head and say "Yes he is real".
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>>21913400
cheese product made out of... cheese
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>>21913402
You do realise that if it's 'Cheese flavored' it has some contain some element of cheese.
BUT
If it's 'cheese flavor' it does NOT have to contain any cheese at all . . .it can be totally chemical.????
>>21913405
There is no 'punch' to American 'cheese' . . . .for heavens sake, what planet do you live on?
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>>21913400
Are you intentionally lying or just retarded? It's cheese processed with an emulsifying salt to make it meltier.
>American cheese is a 'Cheese flavor imitation food product'.
Do you see those words anywhere on pic related?
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>>21913434
ITT Mutts having a meltdown defending their plastic 'cheese'
In America . . .cheese comes in cans.
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>>21913439
i'm defending processed cheese though which was invented in switzerland and made convenient in america. it really is a transatlantic success story and it's popularity on both side of the ocean is a proof of that.
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WOW
I have found an American 'Cheese' made with a massive 2% Milk ????????
2% . . .. . must be a Premium product in the USA
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>>21913525
picrel is the ingredient list, so there's buttermilk, cream and regular milk in there
+ an unknown percentage of three types of gum
but "2% or less of salt"
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>>21913556
Yes thank you for confirming what I said.
>an unknown amount of 3 types of gum but only 2% or less of salt!
Read it again slowly. That "2% or less" doesn't stop at the salt on ingredient lists. Ingredient lists are ordered by percentage of weight. Why are you posting when you cannot read? Illiterate retard.
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>>21913581
>Ingredient lists are ordered by percentage of weight
ingredient lists where i live arent ordered like that
also they usually have percentage or unit listed along with the ingredients
like with a list of nutritional values, except its ingredients - if you understand
there's no punctuation OR WORDING indicating that "less than 2%" is applicable to the rest of the list
>Illiterate retard
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>>21913620
So you were just wrong and now you're getting defensive about incorrectly assuming that the way your ingredient labels are formatted applies to the way American ingredient labels are formatted.
>there's no punctuation OR WORDING indicating that
Maybe if you don't know how to read American ingredient labels then you shouldn't be opening your mouth about American ingredient labels, then. Fair?
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Velcro, another small Swiss invention that quietly transformed everyday life, from space missions to retards unable to lace their shoes.
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>>21913667
It's not Swiss anymore.
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>>21913620
"less than 2%" means everything after it is each less than 2%, that's established
Illiterate means not being able to read or write, and you can't read american ingredient labels so you are fucking illiterate about them