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What are you doing about it?
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>>21913729
Finishing my plate
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>>21913729
I don't really have much food waste. I don't buy stuff I'm not going to eat. Scraps I can't eat go in the compost or into stock.
Plastic waste in the kitchen is more of an issue for me. I've stopped bagging my produce at the store, but so many products still come in plastic. I also rely a little too much on plastic ziplocs to store things. Need to do something about that.
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>>21913772
Not if you put it in a plastic bag that goes to the dump
>>21913729
I’d rather figure out what grocery stores and the industrial food chain can do about it
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>>21913729
if an apple tree in a forest grows 50 apples, and they drop to the ground before someone can eat them no-one bats an eye
but If I pick a few and let them rot on my countertop suddenly im mechahitler purposefully starving african children by withholding my food
maybe those people should move to where the food is
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>>21913769
Thats a start.
>>21913772
Landfill. Then MAYBE methane. Hell of a thing for an animal to give its life for...
>>21913775
Its distasteful, but im not sure if it not ok if plastic waste just ends up in a Landfill.
But specifically im asking about buying near expired, food recovery, buying in season, perserving whatever is disposed of: picrel
>>21913781
>points at nose
>points at you
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>>21913791
The people who screech mecha hitler are tards. That doesn’t mean it’s not a worthwhile conversation to have about a general problem.
To your point, i think it’s fruitless to focus on the individual level. Unless you’re finding yourself wasting money and need to change your habits.
>>21913793
> points at nose, yada yada
I don’t know what you mean lmao
I’m interested in getting into food preservation though. I’m not germaphobic by any means but I’m hesitant due to threat of botulism
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>>21913781
>I’d rather figure out what grocery stores and the industrial food chain can do about it
when I was a poor in the 80's we would go dumpster diving behind grocery stores. it was amazing what they threw away. we would grab anything that was not meat (they threw out a lot of meat) and was in plastic bags or had thick skin you would not eat. we got lots of bananas, oranges, potatoes, bread and I don't remember what else.
eventually they would lock the lids of the dumpsters, then they moved to compactors attaches to the stores.
supposedly some stores have food banks pick up food that is still totally edible but most people won't buy.
My uncle was a master dumpster diver. he would even pick up meat. he gave us some once. he claimed that it was still good. I don't know about you but I'm not eating hotdogs when the package is inflated, or any other meat that was outside for who knows how long. before anyone calls him based he was a fucking asshole and his family hated him.
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>>21913769
>Compost.
compost is fine if you have a garden. I grow tomatoes but I'm not dealing with compost.
my brother has a compost heap. I don't know why since he doesn't garden, and it isn't for any eco friendly reasons I think he just decided to do it. not sure if he still does.
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>>21913805
> they threw out a lot of meat
You are correct.
I worked at a couple of grocery stores on and off from 2011-2019. They did some donations but it wasn’t even half the weekly waste.
It’s one of the reasons i believe we don’t need the industrialized farms and high meat prices.
I KNOW a ton of it is going to waste, maybe less would if they kept the prices actually low. Obviously there would still be some, i just think we over produce either way.
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>>21913800
>mecha hitler
Not really. The human world ticked for those apples and now they are just a negative. In the forest, the uneaten apples just stack the biomass, nothing is really lost. Remeber: plants produce exclusively so an animal relocates the seeds.
>botulism
The only law is if the package floats, throw it out. A pamphlet would teach you the rest.
>>21913801
It just ends up being another avenue for government corruption. Local everything is the answer.
>>21913805
>meat
They have 100 year old "hunters stew" in france. The same boil, and people add raccoon, fucking every typical meat you can imagine. Everyone doesnt get sick. Just cook it. The only one around here with a compactor is Safeway.... assholes.
>food bank
These people are pure evil. Its only about control.
>>21913817
Its also pure evil. They could give it to verified low-income, or have clearance racks, but honestly they still do that and half the stuff in the dumpster has half off stickers on it. Its just like any other retail, that things like temu exposed: the products in the store are virtually worthless. They only exist as a marker to pay for the store, employees, trucks, suppliers. They have to throw so much away, cause if people waited like vultures for expired food, they think the whole business model would collapse. Its like pirated movie MBA business idiot metallic thinking....
>>21913851
You should get a sink disposal at least. Some municipalities use the bio solids or ferment for methane.
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>>21913891
>They could give it to verified low-income, or have clearance racks, but honestly they still do that and half the stuff in the dumpster has half off stickers on it.
doesn't happen with food due to our extremely litigious society. there would be lawyers out there getting rock hard at the thought of suing a grocery store because their client supposedly got sick from eating perishables 1 day after their expiration date
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>>21913920
Oh of course, but the food bank does it officially.....and i forgot to mention, other meats, especially beef, age quite well. Ive gotten a 100$ worth of brisket with ice crystals still in it on the middle of summer. Nevermind that through the winter its a refrigerator outside. Scary thing is the hotdog are the last meat to bloat....
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A local food bank gets all produce from wal-mart and some other stores and after they get done portioning it out to the people in line, they just set all the perishable stuff out front for anyone to take as much as they want. I'll often take all the fruit and feed it to my neighbor's cows and horses
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>>21913949
Behind Sam's club their are specialty dumpsters with whole sides of beef bones in there, but they are locked. You have to go inside and get a shrink wrapped femur for your dog for 11$....every Popeyes throws out a garbage bag of chicken every day....but again, they wont do it somewhat hygenically and it has the dining room trash with used napkins and window cleaner cause fuck you, we sell this stuff if you want some, ya bum....
>>21913951
>set it out front
Ive pitched this too them, they throw it away instead. Its all about kissing the ring. You have to have a drivers license too....TO EAT. They are government so they cant get fired, and there is no recourse...
>>21913955
>compost
No. Some stores have FINALLY started compost pick ups, but the shit goes to tech bro jerk offs states away, when it should go to the corner of the parking lot.
I dump truck comes and picks up 3 trash cans and the stupid fucking employees still put HALF or more in the regular dumpster. Its a joke and a scam.
I think I read europe is making some laws against food waste. That is so ugly to me, but if people werent psychotic assholes, them only be worried about waste, period, like me.
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>>21913766
Oh yeah? I send my plate to Africa
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>>21913729
Yesterday I boiled chicken breasts in salted water for sandwich meat. I then used the same water to boil potatoes, carrots and sprouts for my dinner. There was some fat still attached to the breasts and it has come out in the water. All the flavours of the chicken and the vegetables and created a very delicious broth. I kept taking spoonfuls of it because it was so delicious.
The next day I poured it all down the sick
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>>21913729
I used to compost but now I have chickens so I give them almost every food scrap, except for eggs and chicken obviously.
Wife and I save bones to make stock, sometimes use vegetable clippings we haven't given to the chickens.
Wife doesn't like leftovers after 1-2 days but I wind up eating whatever's left after that time
Also we give some food to our neighbors if we have made a lot of something like a soup or stew or bread, etc.
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>>21914659
Thats cool. Chickens eat bugs. People will eat chickens, but not bugs. Chickens eat mice too.
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>>21914743
I have to have a place for compost.
I don't want a pile of compost.
I won't have a use for compost.
and you do have to tend to your compost.
also compost attracts bugs.
we don't have bugs, and I don't want to get them.
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>>21914366
my wife used to work for a buffet style restaurant back in the late 80's. they were "not allowed" to take extra food home. by not allowed I mean as long as they did not obviously do it.
so they would take the extra food carefully put it in take out boxes, in bags and take it out to the dumpster just before clocking out.
then they would pick it up after they left.
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>>21914661
I haven't gotten any back. Idk why
>>21914667
You bitch! Give me my plates back
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>>21913729
Food scraps get turned into meat, eggs, compost.
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>>21913772
It took time/energy/money to grow and transport that food. It was also intended to generate profit which it's not doing when it just gets thrown in the trash. Even if "something eats it" there is still waste involved.
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>>21913809
I did this once. It takes forever. One of the things I dumped into the pile were a ton of poppy seeds I had left over from soapmaking. Lo and behold a few poppies grew out of the pile. And that's how I had the dopest tea ever made.
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>>21915345
So they are even more evil than I knew. Jo suggestions on how to end hunger then?
>>21915347
Dive. Compost. Feed the hungry directly.
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>>21913729
I have chickens, so any scraps that's not moldy or gross goes to the chickens, with a few exceptions.
They aren't supposed to eat onions, and the only part of a tomato plant they can eat is the actual ripe tomatoes.
Lots of stuff goes into a compost pile except tomato vines, squash vines, and banana peels.
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I forgot about meat.
Some of it goes to the dog except bird bones and anything pork, ham and pork messes up her stomach for some reason.
Guess lots of meat scraps go to the dump, but it's mostly bones.
Used to toss it in the woods but there's to many coyotes and foxes around.
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>>21914743
Lol no, composting is a bit of a science.
If you get the ratio of green to brown wrong it either stinks or just doesn't decompose.
If it's too wet you'll get stink and bugs.
If it's too dry it'll just pile up doing not much until it actually gets wet, then you get stink and bugs.
Don't mix it enough, then all you've got is a bunch of stinky wet trash.
Do it right, you still have some stink and bugs.
Also if you have the ratios in some magical combination there's a chance of fire.
Almost happened at a friend's place, he had a shitload of grass clippings dumped onto a literal shitload of horse poop and wood shavings and one day in the middle of July we could see steam coming out of it.
He stuck a pitchfork into the grass clippings and tossed it around a bit, felt it for a few seconds and actually burned his hand.
So he soaked it with water before it could actually spontaneously ignite.
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>>21915549
You are joking, but yes. Just go last if you are bothered.
>>21915656
Those last plants are bad for compost?
>>21915674
Thought about taking dumpster meat to a pet shelter.
>>21915793
They had a countertop compost grinder while back. For apartment dwellers to feed flower boxes, great idea.