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>>4015625
why are boys like this?

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>>4015886
It is a mystery

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Inside kaworu's dream

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"What on earth is this? It's almost just a string..."

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>>4015886
It is simply their nature.

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"Did you grab your bento and employee ID?"
"Okay."
"If it looks like you'll be coming home late, let me know, okay?"
"Okay."
"It's cold out, so try not to catch a cold, okay?"
"...... Maybe I should take the day off too and spend some time with Shinji-kun..."
"Take care and have a good day!"

>>4017821
Shinji is responsible, he'd be the one working.
Kaworu would be a stinky stay-at-home neet

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>>4017999
Kaworu is an angle I don't think it's possible for him to be stinky

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"Eh? Those scratch marks..."
"They must be from last night, right?"
"Uwa~... I'm really sorry... (I gotta cut my nails...)"
"It's nothing to worry about. Besides, we're in the same boat."
"?"

>>4017867
This is cute, I wish there was more.

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I like this artist a lot.

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>>4018125
Finished version

>>4018315
Oh nice!

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This guy draws a version of Kaworu combined with Asuka's traits

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>>4018626
Not sure i like it. Just looks like Kaworu's head on Asuka's body

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>>4018702
Oh wow

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Goodnight Nagisa

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"I... We...!"
"Because we're dating! So don't disturb us!"
>A shock on the level of the Third Impact strikes Kaworu Nagisa.

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Valentine's

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"Choco..."
"I said I don't have any."

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:)

i have never watched evangelion and i probably wont but i love this pairing and jack off to them daily. i mostly do it to thoughts about them fucking me and doing othjer things to me

>>4020157
I used to think about making an episode guide for watching Eva specifically for the fujo content.
It'd be tough because Kaworu shows up for literally one episode right before the end, but you'd need at least enough of the preceding episodes to establish the basics of the story and why Kaworu is important to the plot, Shinji's relationships with the other characters and how they disintegrate before he meets Kaworu, and Shinji's depression spiral before he meets Kaworu, in order for it to hit as hard as it does when you actually watch the show.

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I have shared this before I think but I think it's funny so I am posting it again

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"Hey, Shinji-kun, what were you doing in the Second's room?"
"What was that white liquid?"

asushin is canon bros… we lost

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>>4020778
Canon has never stopped me before
Shinji and Kaworu are in love, simple as

>>4020778
If you're referring to the Eva 30th promo image, it's actually somewhat shockingly weighted to Kawoshin.

>>4020806
Oh nvm. I found out.
There is a promo image though with all the characters and it looks like Kaworu and Shinji are about to hold hands

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Shinji but he's your cat

It's E-van-JELL-e-on

>>4020858
>There is a promo image though with all the characters and it looks like Kaworu and Shinji are about to hold hands
Which one?

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You getting this?

>>4020958
No nipples? :(

>>4020988
It's more aerodynamic that way.

so kaworu never had a chance with shinji… fine then why draw them together at every occasion…

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Kaworu skinny

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Cute

>>4021212
Queerbait unironically, even now they had another artist at the Eva 30 event draw them together. Not gonna lie it is pretty disappointing to me how hard Anno has practically no-homoed Kawoshin in the last few years. Even from the beginning it didn’t seem like he was that thrilled about an explicitly gay reading of their relationship (he made Satsukawa tone down his original episode 24 drafts), but Kaworu obviously became an extremely popular character nonetheless. When the Eva franchise was being whored out like crazy in the late 90s/early 2000s there was some pretty explicitly gay side material made about Kawoshin (along with a lot of other insane shit with the girls) but obviously most of that got reined in when Khara took over. Still, Anno ended up dedicating 3.0 to just recreating episode 24 and put tons of romantic imagery into that film and the promo material to keep the fujo money flowing. Ever since then, though, it feels like he’s seriously decommitted from any romantic reading of their relationship. It sort of started with the Netflix dub changing Kaworu’s “I love you”, which was ultimately approved by Khara/Anno, but definitely came to a breaking point in 3.0+1.0. I’m still frustrated with the way Kaworu was handled in that film for a lot of reasons, but the most insulting part is definitely the straight-washing at the end by seemingly having him end up with Rei. I say seemingly because it is pretty ambiguous, but the new context from the Asuka short seems to confirm that it was supposed to be read romantically. In the Asuka short they redraw the 3.0+1.0 ending scene with Asuka in Shinji’s place, and in Kaworu and Rei’s place is Kaji and Misato. Also, in the scene where Asuka imagines a future with Shinji, the shot of her with Shinji as he holds their child is directly traced from that 3.0+1.0 promo artwork of Rei with Kaworu as he holds a baby that looks like Shinji.

>>4021346
Now maybe this is just my American/western perspective speaking, but there is something that just doesn’t sit right with me about this. Whether or not you personally interpret Kaworu as gay/bi/asexual/whatever is irrelevant, for 25 years his most defining trait in otaku culture was that he seemingly had a gay relationship with Shinji, which Anno/Gainax/Khara knew and marketed like crazy. To then go ahead and seriously imply that Kaworu’s final happy ending is that he gets over his long obsession with “making Shinji happy” and winds up in a heterosexual relationship (with what is basically a random woman, he and Rei don’t have any on screen relationship in the rebuilds), symbolically I am weary of the undertones. Ultimately, Anno is a rich old man in a conservative country, which I think is reflected in the fact that 3.0+1.0 and this new Asuka short have some notable natalist themes that were not present in the Eva media before them. The first half of 3.0+1.0 dedicates time to Rei with Hikari and Toji’s baby, Kaji Jr. is introduced out of nowhere, Yui and Gendo’s relationship is heavily romanticized in a way it wasn’t before, and of course the ending has Kaworu & Rei and Shinji & Mari. Mari and Shinji are another example of a couple that had very little on-screen relationship, the reward for Shinji is that he ends up in a heterosexual relationship at all. Mari is also a character that had some queer-coding in the films and in marketing but ended up in a straight relationship anyway. And then of course we have this new Asuka short where Asuka imagines living a cookie cutter heterosexual life with Shinji where they get married and have children. I don’t know man, Eva really didn’t have this emphasis on squeaky clean heterosexual relationships before. It feels at least partially informed by Japan’s current political climate/birth rate problem.

>>4021360
you’re american? why?

>>4020910
This

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Kabuki Kawoshin. They had the imperial musicians hired to this and the Kabuki "prince" is playing the protagonist Kaworu.

>>4021447
>This work is a kabuki dance piece based on the Ninth Symphony, depicting the protagonist Nagisa Kaworu. The story begins quietly with a gagaku (traditional Japanese court music) performance that hints at the beginning of the universe. Accompanied by the sounds of koto (Japanese harp) and bells being plucked in the darkness and the thunder of a large drum, the Black Swan God and the Swan God descend onto the stage. This duet, in which light and darkness, black and white, are attracted to each other and at times pulled apart, depicts the fundamental duality of Evangelion with dazzling beauty.

What is this even about.

>>4021360
>>4021346
Kaworei end makes sense in Rebuild themes. Kaworu and Rei originally (NGE) were Shinji's ideal self/unconscious female anima self. But in Rebuild, they were extensions of his parents except that instead of being engrossed with each other in that shit, they were engrossed with him and would die for him, putting Shinji first. Kaworu dressing like Gendo, Rei overlapping with Yui. They pushed this instead of "you're like me" as in NGE.
So the natural ending now Shinji grew up and doesn't need them is finally end up together.

>>4021227
i think skinny is the most aesthetic bodily form

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>>4021346
>>4021360
>>4021454
Eva was only good because there were enough people at Gainax who could tardwrangle Anno. On his own, he's a hack. Khara is even more pointless and awful than trigger. And the rebuilds are not canon.

>>4021454
>Kaworei end makes sense in Rebuild themes
I understand this but I hate it. 3.0+1.0 goes very hard on the Kaworu/Gendo similarities to the point that Shinji basically father zones him. I don’t like it though because of how much it differs from NGE Kawoshin, despite the rebuilds insisting that this is the same Kaworu going through a time loop. In NGE, Shinji was the one infatuated with Kaworu, not the reverse. NGE Kaworu was an angel unaccustomed to humanity who knowingly or unknowingly showed Shinji more direct affection than anyone else had up to that point. Shinji falls for him instantly and opens up to him in response, which is why Kaworu changed his mind about humanity at the end and allowed himself to be killed by Shinji so humanity could live. I think we’re meant to assume that this was the first loop and that Kaworu then became obsessed with making Shinji happy to his own detriment, but the rebuilds sideline the most important aspect of his character, him being an angel. Seriously I do not remember it being brought up a single time in 3.0+1.0 that Kaworu is an angel. In 3.0 I think it’s mentioned offhandedly once but it’s practically irrelevant to the plot unlike NGE where that reveal & betrayal is the entire point of the Kawoshin relationship. When you remove that aspect from the forefront you rewrite their entire relationship & Kaworu dying in every timeline feels arbitrary. Genuinely what is the lore reason for him dying every time if he’s not being actively hunted by NERV? Bad luck? The reason he failed to make Shinji happy in NGE wasn’t because he was too devoted to Shinji, it was because he was biologically an alien meant to destroy the world. And then seemingly in the 3.0+1.0 ending he magically stops being an angel so he can be with Rei? Ridiculous. The problems with rebuild Kawoshin’s relationship are so artificially created, it honestly feels like a retcon by Anno to tone down the gay elements of the original episode 24.

>>4021463
NGE and EoE were lightning is a bottle that can’t be captured again. Anno is old, rich, married, and out of touch now. While making EoE he was authentically depressed and having problems with women and it showed. The rebuilds are much more sanitized, corporate, and not nearly as meaningful in comparison. Since I wrote those rants I actually saw some tweets from Japanese fans about how 3.0+1.0 sort of felt like a lecture from Anno to otaku to grow up, get married, have children, conform to society, etc, so I’m glad it’s not just me going crazy. The original EoE was infinitely more impactful because of its ambiguity, what happened specifically to Asuka and Shinji after the beach scene wasn’t important, the point was that they chose to live at all. In 3.0+1.0 Anno just spells it out directly that Shinji fixes all of his problems (and his friends problems) and becomes an ordinary man.

>>4021463
tru there is a reason why Qworu is the worst Kaworu

>>4021534
I’ll never stop wondering about what the original ending of the rebuilds where Kaworu kills Gendo and Shinji forgives him for it would have looked like

Came back here to see if anyone was discussing the new Eva project by the Nier guy that was announced... interesting conversation to walk in on.

>>4021346
>>4021360
This sounds less like specifically de-gaying and more the result of forcing Shinji to end up with Anno's wife-insert Mari. Kaworu needs to be disconnected from Shinji, so he's paired up with the closest thing he has to an alternative pairing option in Rei. I have not seen the Asuka short and have no desire to because it sounds like it would not spark joy, but if it's just Asuka imagining herself with Shinji... well, we already knew she was into him, so that's not even new. Also didn't she hook up with one of Shinji's friends in Rebuild? Why's she still pining for Shinji? What the fuck

>>4021526
>Kaworu then became obsessed with making Shinji happy to his own detriment
>he was too devoted to Shinji
Interesting how closely this parallels the bullshit that was pulled with Madoka and Homura in Rebellion, though that was done to make them MORE gay not less.

[spoiler]By the way, if anyone remembers the anon who was writing that Kaworu Time Loop Saga thing, that was me. I'm thinking of working on that again... shall I post about it here?[/spoiler]

>>4021567
[spoiler]how did my spoiler get fucked up, what the fuck[/spoiler]

Why are you guys caring about the pairings intented for rebuilt? They ALL flopped. That's why the Anni had Asuka/Shinji fanservice, and Kaworu/Shinji fanservice (literally a super expensive KABUKI stage play for them with the best actors, the best composer and even the muscicians that serve the royal family did Kaworu centric/Kawoshin centric Kabuki drama).
Which were always the most popular ships. They backtracked Rebuild ships immediately after.

They aren't degaying. When the sound director spoke of relationships, he said they were all (Rei, Asuka AND Kaworu) with Shinji a mix of friendship, romance and family love. Asuka was literally looking for a family in Rebuild too. Romance and family love was interwoven with her.
The scene Soryu sees Kaji (her first love) with Misato confirms Shinji's feelings for Kaworu by the way, too. It wasn't that Shinji chose Mari, but Mari was the only one left for him so if anyone got the shaft is Marishin.

>>4021567
>so he's paired up with the closest thing he has to an alternative pairing option in Rei
Okay, but why does he need to be paired up with someone at all? Why does his happy ending necessitate that he be in a heterosexual relationship? Is existing in the world without Evas normally not happy enough? That’s my problem, Kaworu and Rei don’t have a real relationship in the films, them being together is purely symbolic and ties back into themes of conformity with Japanese society found throughout the film that leave a bad taste in my mouth.
>>4021569
Obviously this is true but fanservice isn’t the same thing as committing things to the text.
>>4021572
>It wasn't that Shinji chose Mari, but Mari was the only one left for him
I guess, but the Kawoshin relationship being something toxic that Kaworu needed to move on from was handled so poorly. Kaworu’s “arc” in 3.0+1.0 is incredibly rushed and full of reused footage, and his relationship with Kaji and decision to move on from Shinji is established and settled in a matter of minutes. It just feels like such an asspull to get Kaworu out of the picture, the reasons given for why it was a toxic relationship are flimsy at best and actively at conflict with their relationship in NGE at worst. Really the biggest thing I still don’t understand is specifically *why* Kaworu was fated to die in every time loop. Because he’s an angel? Then what would be the problem with them meeting again and trying over in a world where he’s fully human? Why did Anno make it so that they *have* to go their own separate ways and be in hetero relationships?

>>4021568
Spoilers don't work on this board

>>4021602
>Obviously this is true but fanservice isn’t the same thing as committing things to the text.
I wouldn't call hiring the imperial musicians and the best kabuki that are cultural icons for a Kawoshin play as the big closing event of your anniversary just "mere" fanservice. A lot of love was poured into that. It's not just some cheap keychains bro.
Newspapers everywhere in Japan are talking about that, not about Mari.

>>4021634
> Newspapers everywhere in Japan are talking about that, not about Mari.
Sure, but Anno still wrote the ending with Shinji and Mari getting together regardless of Kawoshin’s cultural impact. All the fanservice in the world can’t make up for the fact that Kaworu was treated like shit by Anno in 3.0+1.0.

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>>4021635
Everyone was treated like shit in the rebuilds. There is not a single character that wasn't assassinated in one way or many others.

>>4021634
> Newspapers everywhere in Japan are talking about that

Prove it. Japan loved it.

>>4017426
Kensuke is the most underrated cutie of them all.

>>4021669
Anno will pay for marketing 3.0+1.0 as the definitive ending of Eva, I genuinely hate engaging with this fandom now because of how ass the rebuilds are.

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>>4021684
try going to xitter? there're a lot of them posting reviews.

>>4021689
He grows the most handsome too, with Kaworu.

>>4021743
so you don’t have proof

>>4021745
I don't spoonfed retarded tourists, but I'll make a single exception:
https://x.com/edgelinetokyo/status/2025912164771602662
You can try using search option. Your finger isn't broken with the hashtags.
>>4021635
Anno was barely involved in final due to a writer's block, he admits it in an interview. So we don't know how the decision went. And Anno NEVER sees Eva as a static "just anime" thing. An own stage story featuring Shinji and Kaworu they put up and promote in their anniversary is as Eva as the tv show or the movie.

>>4021448
>Accompanied by the sounds of koto (Japanese harp) and bells being plucked in the darkness and the thunder of a large drum, the Black Swan God and the Swan God descend onto the stage. This duet, in which light and darkness, black and white, are attracted to each other and at times pulled apart, depicts the fundamental duality of Evangelion with dazzling beauty
Damn Anno went 2deep4u. I know he likes Kabuki though.

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>[An outstanding second-year student. Although admired for his good looks, he is hard to understand when it comes to social interactions. In others’ eyes, he seems somewhat rebellious and aloof. Fortunately, he can still communicate with a few classmates. Usually, they go about things alone.]
>Yo, we meet again, Ikari-kun. Do you want to go get food together? How do you feel about school life lately? If you have time, I can take you for a walk around the campus!
>Ah... Thank you, Nagisa-senpai. Let's get food together next time. I'm going to go back and make ramen later.
>(Did the second-years get out of school early...?)
>(First-years and second-years have staggered dismissal times by 20 minutes...)
>(Is this the top-ranked second-year senior I've heard about, the one with the unruly personality who is hard to get along with?)

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>[A new first-year high school student in the advanced class. Interpersonal relationships are fairly good; has a few close friends. Forced by his father to apply for the Student Council. During an inspection of the second-year high school building, he met Kaworu Nagisa for the first time.]
>(Why does this guy keep staring at me? So weird... There is still trash on his desk. Should I remind him?)
>(So cute... What is his name? Red school badge... Is he a first-year student? Maybe I should say a few words to him. Wait no, it's self-study time right now. Will there be another chance to meet? Maybe I should ask around after class later...)
>[After finding out the information...]
>(He's way too cute. I really want to date Shinji Ikari... How can I find a chance to let him get to know me? How should I strike up a conversation next time we meet?)

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>>4021948
Cute!

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Kaworu t-toes...

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Cookers

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Giant Shinji in the city!

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Giant Kawoshin in the city!!

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Shingo toes...

>>4022319
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link

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>>4022617
Oh sorry, catbox was down so I tried a different host.

https://x.com/himodayoo/status/1604484894536925185
https://poipiku.com/29118/8009655.html
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https://x.com/himodayoo/status/1528773068289478659
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