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The Death Spiral thread generated a ton of discussion, and is already at bump limit. Link for those who missed the storytime:
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Let’s continue the discussion. This one seemed controversial, and polarizing.
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It was a decent first issue, that felt like things were finally gaining some momentum to answer a lot of questions we've been sitting on for over a year now. Seems like Flash/MJ is put to bed, which is nice. Doesn't seem like Paul is Torment, but I now think he'll be a victim.
Looking forward to ASM #23. Happy we don't have to wait more than a week for any of this shit. If I had to wait 2-4 weeks for the next installment, I'd be complaining that not enough happened in this issue.
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An Ultimate Farwell to Richard and Benom.
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Yep we even had a thread about it today
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152621251/
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I agree with you in wanting him back, especially considering he only got killed because of an editor having a hateboner for him, but Macendale worked best as a "nothing personal" merc, a serial killer role like this is all wrong for him. There's no point bringing an old character back if what we get is effectively just an OC wearing his name.
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Sure! Stay up all night posting here. It’s going to be here tomorrow too!
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Oh wow, that thread was a total failure. What loser made that one? Some kind of idiot retard surely.
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No one cares about spiderman anymore bro. He's dead. People are just venting because they hate what marvel has done. Their lucky if people get angry because that shows they care.
Right now, it's just the fanfiction version of spiderman everyone likes in geek circles interspersed with the occasional person talking about whatever crap marvel is limping to the barn with.
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What Marvel has done ever since OMD has kept Peter in a characterization rut. Sure, on paper new things are happening but Peter himself has not changed from down on his luck 20-something. He doesn't learn anything, his relationships either rubber band back to status quo or defaults to what would be the most emotionally painful, and even the relationships that do change do not change in a way that makes sense in context. Now, before you move the goalpost: yes this is a common problem in comics as a medium, no that does not excuse this issue nor make it good writing. The Paul storyline did nothing but break down all progress the run before it made in repairing Peter and MJ's relationship, that run had to spend a lot of time trying to make that relationship after several runs of relationship drama, you kinda get the idea of cyclical that is right? Same thing on Peter holding down a job: Peter finds job, job goes into background as status quo for half a run (if that), Peter loses job, womp womp quip about Parker Luck, repeat for next run. Pre-OMD, while there have been ruts, there have also been runs where Peter reaches milestones: him graduating high school, graduating college, getting a teaching job, marrying MJ, all of this is stuff most runs didn’t back out of immediately and stuff that Marvel continuously undermines at every turn just to keep Peter in a rut. So tell me, how many runs of Marvel editorial spinning their wheels on one of their flagship heroes do fans have to sit through before this "interesting" pay off you're talking about? Because all I see are a wide range of ideas thrown at wall hoping that either sticks the landing or kicks the hornest nest of angry fans that will hate-buy the product.
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A full on reboot is the nuclear option and it must be considered. Or just do a damn Silver Age Spider-Man reboot with Peter in the 60s, revisiting his years and maybe hint at a crossroads or older Peter married visiting
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News flash nobody likes MJ anymore at least when it comes to Gwen she did nothing wrong they did make sins past non-canon after all. While MJ having left peter for paul is canon right now I choose Gwen over MJ.
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Problem with Marvel comics as a whole is Brand Synergy. They're trying to make their comics look like the movies, so you know, they can drag in general audiences and get more money. That's fine that you want new readers but don't try and ruin a writers vision or a storyline because "Oh! The next MCU Movie is coming out! Quick, let's make the comic book characters look like their MCU counterparts, so we can get more money!" Like seriously, the comics survived long before the MCU was a thing, and yes, they went through their bankruptcy in the 90s but still comic books still survived. Comic books don't need to the movies to carry them, they should be creating new and interesting storylines for movies and TV shows to adapt years later, not the other way around.
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I don’t mind Rebooting Spider-Man completely as long as Petter never ever agin gets back together with M.J at least in the Comic book universe the main line universe and Either have Black cat/Felecia Hardy or my more Preferable noun canon love interest That I wish was Petter Parker’s love interest being Ava/White-tiger,(I would bring Back Gwen Stacy in this Reboot Universe and have her be with Harry Osborn know before any one gets mad at me I’m talking about Norman’s son not the bullshit that Norman did in the comics or have Harry be with M.J as it really sucks that M.J is one of the Worst love Interest in Media,(Things I would keep to influence The New Spider-Man Reboot Comics Universe would Take Inspiration The Sam Ramey Trilogy,Spatular Spider-Man TV show and The Amazing Spider-Man Movies Realism,The Else-worlds feel of The Ultimate Spider-Man comics&Spiderman The New Animated series and Give Petter his own Team like he did In The Ultimate Spider-Man Series as I liked this Team in that show even though some fans hate the show I don’t also I would still keep the Multiverse stuff with Morlen and have it be similar to The Spider into the Spider Verse movies with Petter meets miles from another universe and be his mentor),(theirs your Universe take It or leave it also I would have Norman quit being The Green Goblin and Otto also becoming good permanently this time just not have them put on the Spider-Man persona and I won’t close the door of Spider-Man having new Villains or a new Main villain but I won’t forget the previous villains either,
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But I will Revamp them like Having Craven had killed Ava’s Dad like he did in The ultimate Spider-Man Sieries or having Electric being Red skull’s secret son or having the Actual Red skull be the one who had Peter’s parents killed and not just some fake copy cat and Have Sandman kill petter’s Uncle Ben and have the version of Martin Lee mister negative from The PS Spider-Man games and have Petter have Harry and Ned be his childhood friends who became villains later on
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DAWG THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP REBOOTING SPIDER-MAN AND WON'T LET HIM PROGRESS AND CHANGE AS A PERSON! Every time he advances in a way that could shake up the status quo- WOOPS NEVER MIND HE'S A SINGLE BROKE COLLEGE DROP OUT LIVING OFF OF AUNT MAY'S PENSION AGAIN! He doesn't need a reboot he needs someone to send the entire Marvel Bullpen to the fucking Shadow Realm!
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Gwen fans always spam threads and scream about how much the love child rape from dusk to dawn. At this point I have no more love for Gwen or the country of Poland. I no longer want to see her now that pedophiles like Gwenschizo control her. Gwen fans also say awful things about black people.
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has it really been 8 years of this retard shitposting about Gwen? For no reason other than his blond hair fetish? Not a single thing to like about her and dozens, if not hundreds of worthless spam threads made in her honor.
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>>152629213
Agreed. Them trying to synergize with Marvel Rivals, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, and a show for literal preschoolers isn’t woke, but it’s still retarded. And All New Venom and Carnage were wet farts.
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>>152629250
Sorry, that was for the pedophile over in >>152629092
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I just want to see them blink. They’ve dug their heels in about how Paul is here to stay and Peter and MJ will never get back together. I don’t expect a good comic right now. I just want to watch them cave to angry fans.
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Is there a comic book character stronger than Knull?
Keep in mind I'm talking about God of Light Knull with the Uni-Power, the Void, All-Black the Necrosword and the ability to control the Grendel and the Big Mother.
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I could see Volthoom being more than a match for Knull, especially at the height of his power.
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marywhorefags on suicide watch
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*Charges up for fifteen issues like it's DBZ.*
>YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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>"Shameful as it may be, I cannot deny the seductive allure of...THE UNI-POWER!"
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>>152629744
Like I said, it’s the most shameless way of selling out. Literally betraying everything about yourself for power and spite.
That’s actually a cool concept. It’s a fun place for any villain to be. He’s sunk as low as he possibly could.
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>>152629816
>The Comeback King 2: Electric Boogaloo.
It'll be glorious.
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>>152629888
Holy fuck I don't wanna see this shit again. Somehow Stegman ruins the golden concept of Cap Uni Venom and it turns out dogshit in an even shittier event.
>>152627102
Yeah I'm gonna make a thread for Spider-Man over the weekend and it's gonna be of good quality. What is good schizo repellant? Any ideas?
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>>152629993
I guess Knull getting unipower could be interesting. But he has barely done anything as actual knull so him turning face is about as dumb as thinking that heel Knull was any good beyond his initial role in the first 6 issues of Cates's run.
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So the uni-power is having some long-reaching all according to keikaku goals? I dunno how to feel about that. Too bad Knull isn't fun to read. He's just the writers desperately wanting the reader to think he is menacing when all stakes in comics have been gone for so long now.
Also QiB and uni-Knull look ass as well.
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Eh. They lost me after Spencer concerning MJ/Peter stuff. Ult was just an ok run that was good for dismantling their muh sales arguments and I thought it would actually try harder at having more go on per issue. Like Mayday being sidelined so hard instead of having her tag along Ben was lame. She didn't even need to have superpowers. Just like being a moral support or handy set of extra eyes is enough for me, something to bounce off of rather than Black Cat giving us tired "male is flustered while female is hyper competent and mature" dialogue. Lame.
616 is even worse. I mean I'm glad She-Venom will stop the fucking bullshit they pulled with this male body nonsense but man...beyond that the whole event of Death Spiral and QiB will be so disjointed and decompressed just like every other one. And the gold ANV still sucks even if it is She-Venom. Black and white all the way. And they can't help but have the hair flowing when that is antithetical to true spider-man costumes. Only Julia was able to pull it off, and I know that will ruffle Jess supporters but who cares, she's an Avenger.
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Cletus dumped Carnage because he didn’t care about being a god, then Carnage cloned him, bonded to him, they ate original Cletus and absorbed his memories, only for Cletus to dump Carnage AGAIN, for the exact same reason.
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God had nothing to do with that evil retcon. They ruined the entire Osborn family for the sake of Gwen's mythical purity. Gwen's kids were better characters than she ever was, and it's time we stopped pretending they weren't.
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yeah we just got this instead
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Kelly Interview Part 6
https://aiptcomics.com/2026/02/26/joe-kelly-amazing-spider-man-part-6/
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What bothers me is how he's been doing this all very badly. There's little to no moments of reflection or introspection on Peter's part so it feels hollow.
I'm expecting more spectacle over substance which seems par for his writing on this run.
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>>152635154
She said she doesnt go by that name, I wonder why?
MJ's father was a scumbag, it's plausible he has an illegitimate child. MJs half-black half-sister.
... or she is not the only person with the last name of Watson.
regardless, if she introduced herself she would say Michelle Jones.
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She'd say MJ
>>152635603
Gang War was a incredibly dog shit event too. Total waste of time.
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>>152635623
And a victim of last-minute rewrites since we never did find out who this person was.
The end of Spider-Osborn felt similar, Kelly told to wrap things up sooner than he was expecting because they decided they needed to do Death Spiral right now.
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>>152635652
It was honestly the better choice for that one. Death Spiral feels like the only story with genuine stakes behind it since Kelly's run started. Something that actually has an impact beyond the issue it's in.
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>>152635603
It would be nice if they slowed down the narrative at times so the emotional hits actually hit and you're not left in this blurry, turbid mess of rushing off to hit the next climactic moment of the issue. So little room to breathe kills what should be an emotional climax but you're already pushed off to the next moment.
These things should be stepping stones building up the emotional payoff and constantly pushing to the next plot point before processing the current one sours what he's trying to write.
Maybe I'm too anxious to see how this all plays out and it'll flow better in trade since that's how comics are written these days.
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>First and Last name please.
> MJ
>Sorry, im going to need the name as it appears on the account.
> MJ
> Ma'am, in order to continue this call I need to verify you first and Last as it appears on the account.
> OH MY GOD! Ok! Miiiiiiiicheeeeelle. Joooones! God you are such a fascist!
>thank you so much, we are on a recorded line, how can I help you today?
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>>152636291
Not any of these anons but this argument is pointless. Who gives a fuck about the movies. They aren't even relevant to why people like these characters.
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aah there you spider-man fans now shitposting aside the results of the most Wanted Marvel Epic Collections and it does not look good for you
The LIST:
20) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Demon Bear Saga
19) Daredevil Epic Collection vol 1: The Man Without Fear
18) Ghost Rider Epic Collection Vol.1: Hell On Wheels
17 ) Generation X Epic Collection Vol. 1: Back To School
16) She-Hulk Epic Collection Vol.3: Breaking the Fourth Wall
15) Excalibur Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Cross-Time Caper
14) Iron Man Epic Collection Vol.16: War Games
13) Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home
12) Daredevil Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 3: Out
11) Thor Epic Collection Vol. 5: The Fall of Asgard
10) Fantastic Four Epic Collection Vol. 5: The Name Is Doom
9) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 1: Renewal
8) Daredevil Epic Collection Vol. 20: Purgatory & Paradise
7) Fantastic Four Epic Collection Volume 2: The Master Plan of Doctor Doom
6) Punisher Epic Collection Vol.3: Kingpin Rules
5) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power
4) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 5: Second Genesis
3) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 6: Proteus
2) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 8: I, Magneto
1) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 20: Cosmic Adventures
As you can there is a very HIGH demand to f X-Men/mutant books to be reprinted a total of seven as you can see while when it comes to spider-man there is only a demad of three books.
Now to be honest the odds of Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power to get a repint are rather low given it was printed three times in the past.
likewise it is rather unlikely that Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home will get a reprint anytime given the first print was just last year and it only recently went of print it is far more likely they will do reprints of X-Men books instead. In short X-Men fans win again cheers mate.
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>>152636897
that;s not true and yo know it now I suggest you laf off the insults unless you want this thread to die real quick.
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>>152637073
Nah, they won't reprint X-FAGS anytime soon. Instead, we'll get more Captain Universe kino.
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>>152637117
Yes they wil since there is a very demand for them the same can't be said for you spider-man books however at least not for the epics. Oh don't forget the omnibus reprint poll goes live on march 4 that's next week.
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>>152637184
Cosmic Adventures has more demand. It's at #1, all of the X-Books are not.
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>>152637816
Not a child rapist also look a the list again
>17 ) Generation X Epic Collection Vol. 1: Back To School
>15) Excalibur Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Cross-Time Caper
>9) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 1: Renewal
>4) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 5: Second Genesis
>3) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 6: Proteus
>2) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 8: I, Magneto
>13) Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home
>5) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power
>1) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 20: Cosmic Adventures
Granted Spider-man book are higher on the list but there is more of demad for X-Books. Besides as mentioned before the odds of Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home getting a reprint are rather given it only went o print not long ago. the same goes for Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power sinceit had three prints. so you in the end we X-Men fans win again while you spider-man fans lose have a nice day now.
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>>152627102
I kind of liked how Eddie, MJ, and Flash all consider Paul deeply irritating.
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>Polish people don’t know how to count
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>>Polish people don’t know how to count
Spider-man fans are just angry since they know they will most likely get only ONE reprint of a book while X-Men fans will get MANY. It only show are X-Men fanbase is much stronger then yours spider-man fans.
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>>152637486
No, because Cosmic Adventures is #1, therefore it has more demand.
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>>152638179
So what? even if they do reprint it how much will it sell it now? it had two print runs in the past. Each new print run is lower then the previous one. They will prrint something like 1000 copies of it this time and that will be it. While X-Books get far more reprints so by that logic they wiill sell more then the spider-man ones so you still lose.
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>>152638312
Nah, X-Men will get lower reprints because they aren't as in demand. Cosmic Adventures will sell like hotcakes.
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>>152638350
that's where you are wrong let me clue you in something have you ever noticed that the X-Men epics tend to go out of priint faster then the spider-man ones? care to know why because the sell more that's why it's the same thing when it comes to the ominbus x-men blue gold omnibus sold out before it was officially released.
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>>152638350
I like Peter with a beard. they should have kept his long hair and beard in space and for when he came back.
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>I like Peter with a beard
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>>152638191
Spider-Man is number one on the poll. Sorry retard. You’re the one who is denying the science!
>>152638997
I’m kind of interested in Kelly’s promised status quo shift with ASM 1000. It could be a fakeout but I’d like to see an older Peter with a bit more stability again.
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>I’m kind of interested in Kelly’s promised status quo shift with ASM 1000. It could be a fakeout but I’d like to see an older Peter with a bit more stability again.
It'll be an offscreen intervention with his clones, and them getting along. With Kaine being Peter's roommate and you'll accept it.
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See, this is why nobody wants Gwen Stacy to come back. Gwen fans are just the worst.
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>>152639132
Thank you! That’s a lovely thing to say. Maybe MJ fans are quite nice after all, and not too different from us Felicia fans.
>>152639135
Wow! How rude! Gwen fans keep on acting like the very worst, yet again! I never want to see Gwen Stacy ever again!
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>>152639132
Gallant.
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Goofus.
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Superboy-Prime will undo OMD. It has been forseen!
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>>152639361
The MJ fans have been very nice and kind so far I think she could be invited for threesome sex with Peter and Felicia, but Gwen fans have been terrible and worse than Hitler so I think Gwen and her fans should rot in hell.
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>>152639547
I reread the issue. Eddie and Carnage know about Torment from Bailey Bushkin’s files.
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>>152639818
How rude! Once again Gwen Stacy fans show their hatred and pettiness.
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Can you post a picture of your polish Gwen Stacy comics? Otherwise I don’t think anyone will believe you’re a real fan of hers
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>>152640729
>, Sarah and Gabriel all have better fans.
Yes I am sure those fans were really happy to learn they were shitty clones madey harry have I struck a nerve yet? I think just did.
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>>152640914
Gwen was going to beat up Aunt May... she was NUTS! If Harry wasnt there she would not have stopped! WHAT A CRAZY BITCH GWEN WAS!!!!!
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More spam jannies do your thing,
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>MJ fans: nice and polite and make good and intelligent posts
>Gwen fans: loud and violent and only post spam and talk about child rape
I’m going to write a letter to Marvel asking them to make sure Gwen Stacy stays dead forever!
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this is spam jannies fix their wagon.
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>>152641685
Sleep deprivation does not cause gingivitis! What fucking medical school did you go to?
Obesity though, yeah, he’s fucking up his metabolism to post here too. He’s basically slowly killing himself because he’s angry about people talking about Spider-Man. We’re literally poisoning him with our posts. We are pushing him towards death.
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>>152641720
Given he posts here at like 2-3 pm in the afternoon on waking up, after he collapses in exhaustion after another all nighter, yeah, he lives like a fucking slob. I think the funniest part is that he’s genuinely killing himself with this. He’s placing immense strain on his physical and mental health. He’s literally torturing himself to keep up, his life is agony.
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Grim.
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He gave up and fucked off as soon as this was posted, hey Gwenschizo that means you lost you little retard!
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>>152639032
Kaine is best spider, fight me
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>>152643145
We barely know them. I doubt Eddie or Peter even know any of these people, given they've had no role in the story up until now. I'm still not sure if Torment is targeting actual family, or just fixating on people with similar sounding surnames. Peter doesn't have any blood relation to Aunt May, she's his uncle's wife, so it's a pretty piss poor spiral either way.
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>>152644511
You’re desperate for a superior Paul. I guess Paul himself was too much of a failure.
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>VenoMJ thinks he’s flirting with her without realizing he’s doing a bit
CUTE
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I like the dramatic irony but they probably can’t stick the landing.
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>"Current MJ"
Nigga, it's been almost 20 years. And in all that time they have only came up with Spider-Gwen who is even more irrelevant than MJ who has been inhibited by this shit for 20 years.
Shit bait. Plus they're fictional characters schizo.
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>>152645873
the preview page imply something else the covers don't matter only what's inside the book. And I happen to know somebody who does have a leak to that book. Take my word for it you won't like once it drops.
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>>152645904
Spider-Gwen does not matter only the original Gwen Stacy does. That's why they wanted to bring her back at the end of OMD it's ALWAYS been about her. Editoral wants her and peter to be with each again and so do I and some day that will happen we want MJ to be gone for good.
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>>152645942
Don’t bother, Gwenschizo would rather be known as a child rapist rather than give us the leaks because he’s PROUD of it he’s PROUD that he’s raping children he wants us to know and he wants us to respect him for it.
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>he’d rather be known openly as a pedophile
Oh wow you sure outsmarted us. Message received, we’ll acknowledge you as a child molester if you want us to respect that so badly!
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>>152645996
>he got tricked into calling himself a child rapist again.
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>>152645883
Yeah and she is even more irrelevant except for when they dredge up her story once Norman turns evil again. And that story is 50 years old. The only other time she was relevant nowadays is her getting blacked.
>>152645996
Sorry I think you misunderstood, your trans-lator was off that day and Brevoort actually said all of editorial would have their balls with you which is their code for rubbing your face with their testicles.
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This is why I prefer Spider-Gwen to Gwen Stacy there are SO MANY old Gwen Stacy fans who are disgusting pedophiles! Yuck! Now I can’t even see Gwen Stacy without thinking of child rapists like Gwenschizo and Gwen is forever tainted in my eyes. I say no more Gwen Stacy and I say no more pedophiles.
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>>152646088
>No pain, no gain. And MJ is more popular than ever, everywhere that isn't here.
Oh really care to explain then why editoral made her a cheater then maybe she was popular once but that time is long gone now.
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>>152646095
No the OG Gwen Stacy was a stupid whore and didn’t have any powers and also the OG Gwen Stacy has too many child molesters as fans, Gwen is a bad person because her fans are bad people. I like Spider-Gwen because she has powers and is a good role model for young transgender people and is better in every way.
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>>152646095
What is the meaningful difference in personality or character? What agency have both displayed? And have the stories they have been involved in, been strengthened by their inclusion? Or is it just because she's blonde and had feminine hair?
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>>152646119
The only one whoever cheated on peter was MJ. you can deny it all you want but the truth is Gwen was always peter's true love they were always meant to be with each other that's why we hate MJ so much.
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>>152646151
Gwen is a trashbag cunt who betrayed Harry Osborn read it and weep child rapists oh wait you guys are POLISH so you can’t even read English haha
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>>152646116
Editorial did it because they just didn't want to exert any effort when it came to writing and so that they could turn Spider-Man into a vehicle for appealing to men who didn't have to read old comics or think too hard about the stories they were consuming and to easily just have new readers jump in and see that they can follow along. Problem is, they couldn't substitute the relationships/depth of the characters with any ideas of their own. So they use cheap nostalgia like Gwen or use bait tactics like cheap drama/cheating in order to hook ESLs like you who are into Bollywood faggotry. That time is long gone chiefly because they chose to make her into a shallow person. If I created the Gwenschizo is a pedo idea, going by your logic, then Gwenschizo deserves to get lynched for being forced to have sex with kids. But we all know Gwenschizo is real and if he fuck kids, then that actually deserves that punishment, because...you're real.
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>>152627102
the whore is boring and her fans pathetic crybabies
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>>152646190
I think MJ fans are very nice but Gwen fans are whiny pedophiles who scream about child rape like this guy:
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>>152627102
It is sad to me that so many people don't want to retcon Paul because it would invite BAD WRITING and making Paul a villain would make Paul more important to the mythos than he already is. These are terrible arguments. Paul cucked Peter, full stop. There is no getting around it. Peter Parker is a loathsome cuck, how can anyone respect him? MJ, his "Great Love", now lives in infamy for fucking Paul and cheating on Peter.
Paul will forever be etched into the mythos of Spider-Man, so they might as well make him a villain. And now his high school bully is going to add fuel to the fire. Flash is going to fuck MJ. How are you people still fans of this bullshit. Peter is well within his rights to crash out and murder everyone. But nope. POWER AND RESPONSIBILITY!
>Peter, Uncle Ben here, speaking to you from the great beyond. Always remember the responsible thing to do is to allow anyone and everyone to fuck Mary Jane and then become friends with them. Then thank them for pleasuring your "Great Love".
I fucking hate Peter Parker and despise how stupid this situation is and how easy it is to fix. but they fucking don't. These faggots in Marvel need to be humbled in a bad way.
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>>152646584
>Paul will forever be etched into the mythos of Spider-Man
For all of 5m and 5yrs from now we'll be laughing at the entire situation because of how much worse things have gotten
>Peter should murder people because he couldn't fuck MJ at the time
Please be serious for a moment
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>>152646609
Its been 4 years and counting since Paul. only degenerates and people who have disengaged are laughing. Then there is the itch that wont go away, been 20 years since OMD, and again only degenerates and people who stopped caring can laugh.
>Peter should murder people because he couldn't fuck MJ at the time
>Please be serious for a moment
It's not about not being able to fuck her its about having him be humiliated by having everyone else fucking her.
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>>152646681
>caring
Bruh we still care but in only the measured and mature way of just waiting and not buying shit books and making fun of editorial in ways that are constructive or ways that further remove their motivation from continuing down this road.
>murder
Just chill. The Peter we see now isn't the one we had before. So Idgaf because they're faggots who corrupted it. And this corruption is so blatant that it isn't even hard to see from the normie perspective as even they can tell iron boy jr isn't Spider-Man or as cool as Raimi-Man. Like they can tell editorial is the fault of all this. We have memes that keep the old Marvel alive, much to the chagrin of current Marvel. In this case, old history won't die because continuity in superheroes will not die, to its strength and detriment.
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>>152646681
>Its been 4 years and counting since Paul. only degenerates and people who have disengaged are laughing.
It's called detached engagement and far healthier than having constant mental breakdowns or "crashouts" because 2 characters aren't fucking.
Do I care? yes. I grew up reading about these characters and love them. I don't like what Marvel has done to them and I'm still hoping it blows up in their face one day. Though seeing how poorly Marvel is doing and everyone is shitting on them it seems I'm in luck.
Am I going to have a mental breakdown over it? No. I have my fanfics and headcanons.
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>>152647314
I don't think it's the symbiote. It showed ASM 263 where he meets the kid that becomes Steel Spider(-Man) so it's the Black Suit era
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Its not just a Black Eye for them, its different this time. they gives us 4 years of Paul and then this Flash Bullshit for the past six months, like they do the same "friends" scene 3 or 4 times, what the fuck is up with that. Eveytime its like, "its nothing", they "Squashed it", "oh look they squashed it again". why fuck do they keep doing it?!
Waiting isnt enough, action is required.
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Ah ok then. It just read to me that mean Superman = mean Spider-Man and they already had black Superman costume and black Spider-Man costume variant already.
>Priest
Ah ok I forget that that's the era he's writing. Well I put my foot in my mouth and mistook some stuff. Still a lame and boring cover.
>symbiote
Yeah I know the distinction. Whatever. If I type one and not the other, who cares. It only matters in the story.
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>>152647416
No Brevoort/Lowe/Yoshida is just doing it as planned. They know what they are doing. They just can't seem to grasp they are getting diminishing returns and it ruins the brand and the trust readers had.
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>action is required
Alright I'll bite but what do you actually think can be done? 4chan doesn't allow raids anymore, you shouldn't plan anything illegal, and the most constructive thing is just to not buy, or better yourself until you get good at writing or drawing so that you can get hired and force their hands, simple as that.
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>>152647386
My read of it is that it's going to mirror the conversation MJ and Peter have.
There was a ton of stuff left unsaid and they never really unpacked everything. They skirted around the issue but never actually sat down and talked. In-universe it's been 2yrs since they've actually done anything besides placate each other and trade niceties.
There are several moments in Wells' run where MJ and Peter have romantic tension and MJ squashes it, Like after Dark Web and they're leaving Ravenholme and Peter brings up how well they work together and MJ says that's exactly why they can't do that again.
It's made very clear even in Wells' run that they still love each other deeply so this is going to be figuring out where they stand with each other. This is why MJ brings up the status of the relationship with Flash because they've been friends for a long time and even dated but they haven't actually been engaged in each others lives and she wants to know if he's expecting more which is why she laughed at his non-committal 'maybe'.
This is basically going to end with MJ back as the friend/confidante from the 80's as the new status quo as the series gets relaunched into yet another 'Back to Basics' approach for like the 5th time.
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>>152647440
>Just spouts canned line
THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY
Ok now you'll say it is certain. Then you'll call her marywhore. Then you'll say you're not a pedophile, then you'll say X-Men is better. /thread
Anyway, how is the black cock treating you these days?
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>>152627102
NOW SHE'S DROOLING OVER GAMBIT COURTESY OF TOM KING AND JIM LEE!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
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>>152647676
No idea why mods don't do something about it. It's his M.O. in nearly every Spidey thread.
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You are a brown self-inserter. MJ rejecting Peter’s first proposal or dating Flash the first time already should make him an irrevocable cuck in your shit colored eyes, so just stop posting here and acting like you care about anything besides outrage posting. You are not Spider-Man, what you personally would not tolerate is irrelevant.
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>>152647779
>if I harass everyone but the actual Gwenschizo, it’ll make Gwenschizo go away
>this is so *genius!* I’m just like Machiavelli! *swirls around a glass of red wine and takes a puff of my asthma inhaler.*
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>>152647695
Flash and MJ barely fucking "dated" and were just hanging out, "She even tells Peter to call her in front Flash." this was before they were serious/married. Rejecting a marriage proposal isn't the same as cucking, nothing written suggested that it would be. The propsal was meant to make MJ look bad, so Wolfman could get her out of the book and insert Black Cat.
Caring about a story and characters is not self insertion. fuck you for shitty comment.
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>>152647818
>Rejecting a marriage proposal isn't the same as cucking, nothing written suggested that it would be.
Not only that but it's shown she was genuinely torn up about the whole thing.
He was already dating Felicia at the time.He realized it wasn't going to work out long term.
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>>152647782
Shouldnt they do it?
>>152647768
I typed fast, but sure. I dunno why i would be the pole and criticize him, he's unable to ever do so.
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>>152648224
this series was too boring for me, what exactly is the new Mysterio? I know it’s a gestalt entity holding all the Mysterio members, but what’s their body physically made of? Why was brain-uploading even something the Mysterios could do?
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Priest made up his own character who had strong feelings about the way comics ought to be, Prime makes sense.
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>>152648428
>Priest got filtered by the Johns run of Green Lantern.
It's not that monumental of a task to keep track of.
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>>152648526
His particular issue is that there should only be one version of any given hero and it should be "the original" (and of course Alan Scott and Jay Garrick don't count because they were gone before he was alive and reading comics). Hal Jordan s GL, no one else. Dick Grayson as Robin, no Jason, Tim, or Damian. Peter Parker as Spider-Man, no Miles.
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>>152648491
Bobby Carr was right after OMD and a shitty move by Marvel, Pedro was later and also a shitty move. PAUL came after the Spencer run and was Egregious for how it broke them up and used to sustain the misery experienced. He was also a shitty nothing character attempting to pass for a genuine life development for MJ. OMD was not a divorce and she didnt leave Peter for Paul, she was stuck in bullshit situation written by terrible creatives.
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>>152648647
they got together to raise some kids and only because the passage of time was fucked, without those things they immediately break up because they aren’t compatible. That’s as good as you’re going to get
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>>152648647
>Bobby Carr was right after OMD and a shitty move by Marvel,
>Spiraling actress realizes she's just being used and her problem is that she's a narcissistic bitch that gave up the best thing that ever happened to her because she let a chance at fame and fortune go to her head and treated her partner like shit because of it
Bobby Carr was good actually if even for just this moment.
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>>152648834
Silk's got too much of that fetish stink about the relationship. Still not sure how Slott managed to sneak that one by editorial:
>yes Peter gets with a hot korean chick who is basically his soul mate and also anytime they smell each other they got into heat and have to fuck because I read Dragonriders of Pern when I was an impressionable lad
Silly shit
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>>152649104
Yeah, but they stopped writing the pheromone sex thing. She spent most of his career as spider-man in a bunker watching tapes of him in action, Peter knew the guy who locked her up, and she lost her parents because of it, I think there’s enough there for an interesting relationship.
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>>152649150
Nothing introduced by the BND crew has stuck. Its Black Cat or Mary Jane and they have spent the last 125 issue glazing Black Cat and draggin MJ. So you will probably be getting on and off BC in the future.
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>>152649260
>and they have spent the last 125 issue glazing Black Cat and draggin MJ.
Felicia gets treated like shit as well and even calls Peter out for it but you see them have sex a few times and think things are fine.
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>>152648833
Post OMD MJ didnt learn shit from this and continued treating Peter like shit. But yes Peter Parker will always be the best thing that did and everwill happen to her. why is there noone in the book that is abe to speak to her like this.
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>>152627102
Can we PLEASE be finally done with VenoMJ in drag. Who the fuck likes this version of Venom, even the jaw just looks dumb. If they absolutely have to use Mary Jane as the host at least make her look like an actual woman ffs
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Jim Lee is all happy that he is drawing Mary Jane Watson-Parker and the X-Men after 35 years.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mutie and league comic crossover is coming later this year
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>>152652399
yeah, Tombstone hires her as a backup lawyer and she gets him acquitted. Shes in like a single page. Really weird choice for a lawyer considering the target demographic of kids have no idea who she is
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>>152651533
>actual woman ffs
Well they're kinda....doing it. I mean it's an improvement but yeah, ANV and the gold is a massively shit design, the symbol lacks any oomph, MJ's hair sticking out does not work for She-Venom (they should've just made it black, like made from the symbiote, or no hair), and there is no cleavage. Heels I don't really like either. MJ would wear them for modelling but I see her as more of a fashionable boots gal, especially when superheroing (conceivably the heels wouldn't matter as they are goo and and can stick easily but eh...boots are also more combat and Venom-esque).
Oh and yeah, I'm still not buying it even if She-VenoMJ is one of my favorite concepts. Marvel deserves 0 cents because they make 0 sense and also 0 cents.
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>>152652128
I bet it must be bittersweet to draw Gambit. He was losing out on a lot of X-Men money because of Marvel. Frankly even though the Image guys get a lot of flack for the whole industry bubble and swallowing up other indies for creating a style that overtook anything else, at least they got the fuck out of Marvel.
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>>152652882
Nobody gives a fuck. Meltdown threads are all performative anyway, just shit for redditors to screenshot and post for gold or twitter tourists to post that then get regurgitated here, or /v/ at least.
Spider-Man is dead and buried. Why would anyone be mad? We all expect the worst.
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>>152647451
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>>152652882
Could be fun
>Negative Zone spits thing out into a different universe
>Felicia and Peter get an AU where they're a happy anti-hero couple and he still does the science thing on the side
>Likely public identities since Felicia is public
>MJ still has her spiraling career while in an emotionally distant relationship with Flash as they both settling and not with the people they actually loved
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Ah yes more literally who relatives...exactly ones we need right now and ones who look like celebrities instead of just independently created characters (yes I know Kitty is is just Sigourney, but she morphed eventually). Especially ones like Zendaya who would look even more awful under the shitty Marvel interior art we get nowadays.
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What leak? where did they leak?
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>>152627102
Death Spiral is gong to be one big nothing big nothing burger. We are getting a conversation that should have happened years ago, that is it.
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>>152658028
Why are faggots like you always baiting and sticking your shit, unbacked/unsupported opinions into these threads?
Why the fuck do we need a gorillion of the same ideas wasted on centennial issues with no soul behind them? Like even the faggots who just want silver age slop that has 0% of the charm the original silver age don't even want symbiote slop put in.
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just wait a little bit to talk about spider-man, it's almost midnight in that shithole you call poland
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>Non-canon slop.
I want 90's Spider-Carnage.
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>>152659353
I mean...yeah, they could but he probably wouldn't show up until the very end where The Watcher is gazing into the bleak future of this timeline.
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>>152659379
*A future where Mayday fights to save Earth from the symbiote horde alongside The Last Avengers.
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>>152659360
They could change his origins, but Ewing basically already shat on them by pointing out Oblivion is the top dog. And the Celestials unquestionably did fight him at the dawn of creation. I like the version from the spider-man cartoon where Knull only made 4 symbiotes then tore them off and fucked back off into the ether
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>>152659373
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>>152659303
Your mother? Sodomized on several am radio stations. Sodomized by who? You.
>>152659360
It will be possible once everything related to disassembled is undone and this whole era is behind us.
>>152659424
Guess why...a certain schizo.
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>>152659457
Nobody cares because it's sony. And guess who is connected to Sony as exposed by Michael Jackson, another famous MJ? Jews. And as evidenced by >>152659449 you know them...
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Whoops I meant to reply to >>152659456
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>>152659489
NEW THREAD HERE: >>152659510
FEEL FREE TO POST ALL THE LEAKS THERE GWENSCHIZO WE ARE WAITING.