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The Death Spiral thread generated a ton of discussion, and is already at bump limit. Link for those who missed the storytime:
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Let’s continue the discussion. This one seemed controversial, and polarizing.
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About as controversial as taking a shit in a dumpster
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>>152627120
Well, there are bound to be people who are not in favor, yes.
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>>152627102
This issue was announced for a second printing. Peter and MJ sell, who knew?
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>>152627102
Well I am of to hit the night clubs now big mistake making this thread now 8pm in the us 2 am in europe.
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>>152627136
It's best to ignore this thread and let it die take my advice get some some sleep. Or go to a nght club for some joy.
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>>152627102
How did Venom now know who Ben Reilly was? He knew instantly he wasn't Peter when he took over as Spider-Man
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>>152627185
MJ and Flash Sell
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>>152627102
The scene of Carnage taking Eddie's phone to send self deleting texts to a supervillain on a regular basis is fucking batshit.
Laughed my ass off.
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>>152627102
It was a decent first issue, that felt like things were finally gaining some momentum to answer a lot of questions we've been sitting on for over a year now. Seems like Flash/MJ is put to bed, which is nice. Doesn't seem like Paul is Torment, but I now think he'll be a victim.

Looking forward to ASM #23. Happy we don't have to wait more than a week for any of this shit. If I had to wait 2-4 weeks for the next installment, I'd be complaining that not enough happened in this issue.
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>>152627102
Anyone hope Jason Macendale is Death Spiral? He's one of the last Spidey villains still dead, so why not have him come back for shits and giggles?
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>>152627358
>Pure cope
PaulFAG...
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>>152627422
Jacks are cruise control for sucking, so no.
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>>152627403
>Seems like Flash/MJ ARE GOING to bed
Giggidy giggidy
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An Ultimate Farwell to Richard and Benom.
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>>152627546
Yep we even had a thread about it today
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152621251/
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>>152627422
I agree with you in wanting him back, especially considering he only got killed because of an editor having a hateboner for him, but Macendale worked best as a "nothing personal" merc, a serial killer role like this is all wrong for him. There's no point bringing an old character back if what we get is effectively just an OC wearing his name.
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>>152627277
Sure! Stay up all night posting here. It’s going to be here tomorrow too!

>>152627601
Oh wow, that thread was a total failure. What loser made that one? Some kind of idiot retard surely.
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>>152627358
They pretty much said it’s not happening. I don’t expect Polish people to understand English comics though.
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>>152627825
anon it's no good soon it will be nighttime in the us and europe is asleep right now. Besides even yoy need sleep sooner or later what are you going to bump it yourself out of spite? have fun then,
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>>152627825
>Sure! Stay up all night posting here. It’s going to be here tomorrow too!
I doubt it anon i truly do soon everyone will hit the sack,
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I think I am going to enjoy watching OP dropping dead from exhaustion trying to keep his thread alive it will fail of course.
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OP wants to make a complete idiot of himself fine with me enjoy have fun trying to keep your thread alive. You just don't when to quit do you I am going to burn you out buddy.
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Ok. Keep going.
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>>152627962
>bobody stays up late on the internet says Polish retard posting on a Spider-Man thread at 3:30 AM in Warsaw.
I hope you keep going until it genuinely damages your health.
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>>152628178
thed saying goes nobody hates Spider-Man more then the fans the sayung is very much true.
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>>152628252
If you’re not able to stay awake past dawn, that means you lose and I win.
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op diddles kids
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>>152628195
look who is talking you come from europe youself you made this thread at around 2 am.
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>>152628260
the fans hate Spider-Man the most what's the matter can't stand to hear the true now.
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>>152628278
Oh no, I’m from Arizona. It’s only 7 PM just now.
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>>152628260
No anon this thread will soon be dead I will ruin you.
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>>152628311
Well, keep at it. I’ll check in periodically.
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>>152628301
why are you lying it's 8:15 pm Arizona.
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>>152628324
no anon you will drop from exhaustion,
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>>152628329
Time zones are weird in AZ, it doesn’t do daylight savings. I’m in Nevada this week. That probably explains it.
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No one cares about spiderman anymore bro. He's dead. People are just venting because they hate what marvel has done. Their lucky if people get angry because that shows they care.

Right now, it's just the fanfiction version of spiderman everyone likes in geek circles interspersed with the occasional person talking about whatever crap marvel is limping to the barn with.
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>>152628387
If they kill Paul and put Peter and MJ back together I will buy the book again. Until then no. Simple as.
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What Marvel has done ever since OMD has kept Peter in a characterization rut. Sure, on paper new things are happening but Peter himself has not changed from down on his luck 20-something. He doesn't learn anything, his relationships either rubber band back to status quo or defaults to what would be the most emotionally painful, and even the relationships that do change do not change in a way that makes sense in context. Now, before you move the goalpost: yes this is a common problem in comics as a medium, no that does not excuse this issue nor make it good writing. The Paul storyline did nothing but break down all progress the run before it made in repairing Peter and MJ's relationship, that run had to spend a lot of time trying to make that relationship after several runs of relationship drama, you kinda get the idea of cyclical that is right? Same thing on Peter holding down a job: Peter finds job, job goes into background as status quo for half a run (if that), Peter loses job, womp womp quip about Parker Luck, repeat for next run. Pre-OMD, while there have been ruts, there have also been runs where Peter reaches milestones: him graduating high school, graduating college, getting a teaching job, marrying MJ, all of this is stuff most runs didn’t back out of immediately and stuff that Marvel continuously undermines at every turn just to keep Peter in a rut. So tell me, how many runs of Marvel editorial spinning their wheels on one of their flagship heroes do fans have to sit through before this "interesting" pay off you're talking about? Because all I see are a wide range of ideas thrown at wall hoping that either sticks the landing or kicks the hornest nest of angry fans that will hate-buy the product.
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>>152628412
It is too late for that the only sane action left is to get rid of MJ anf bring back Gwen let she and be happy with each other.
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I just can't bring myself to care about the current marvel continuity for some characters. A reboot is necessary.
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>>152628447
No, I don’t like Gwen anymore. Her fans are bad people.
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A full on reboot is the nuclear option and it must be considered. Or just do a damn Silver Age Spider-Man reboot with Peter in the 60s, revisiting his years and maybe hint at a crossroads or older Peter married visiting
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>>152628489
News flash nobody likes MJ anymore at least when it comes to Gwen she did nothing wrong they did make sins past non-canon after all. While MJ having left peter for paul is canon right now I choose Gwen over MJ.
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Problem with Marvel comics as a whole is Brand Synergy. They're trying to make their comics look like the movies, so you know, they can drag in general audiences and get more money. That's fine that you want new readers but don't try and ruin a writers vision or a storyline because "Oh! The next MCU Movie is coming out! Quick, let's make the comic book characters look like their MCU counterparts, so we can get more money!" Like seriously, the comics survived long before the MCU was a thing, and yes, they went through their bankruptcy in the 90s but still comic books still survived. Comic books don't need to the movies to carry them, they should be creating new and interesting storylines for movies and TV shows to adapt years later, not the other way around.
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I don’t mind Rebooting Spider-Man completely as long as Petter never ever agin gets back together with M.J at least in the Comic book universe the main line universe and Either have Black cat/Felecia Hardy or my more Preferable noun canon love interest That I wish was Petter Parker’s love interest being Ava/White-tiger,(I would bring Back Gwen Stacy in this Reboot Universe and have her be with Harry Osborn know before any one gets mad at me I’m talking about Norman’s son not the bullshit that Norman did in the comics or have Harry be with M.J as it really sucks that M.J is one of the Worst love Interest in Media,(Things I would keep to influence The New Spider-Man Reboot Comics Universe would Take Inspiration The Sam Ramey Trilogy,Spatular Spider-Man TV show and The Amazing Spider-Man Movies Realism,The Else-worlds feel of The Ultimate Spider-Man comics&Spiderman The New Animated series and Give Petter his own Team like he did In The Ultimate Spider-Man Series as I liked this Team in that show even though some fans hate the show I don’t also I would still keep the Multiverse stuff with Morlen and have it be similar to The Spider into the Spider Verse movies with Petter meets miles from another universe and be his mentor),(theirs your Universe take It or leave it also I would have Norman quit being The Green Goblin and Otto also becoming good permanently this time just not have them put on the Spider-Man persona and I won’t close the door of Spider-Man having new Villains or a new Main villain but I won’t forget the previous villains either,
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>>152628671
But I will Revamp them like Having Craven had killed Ava’s Dad like he did in The ultimate Spider-Man Sieries or having Electric being Red skull’s secret son or having the Actual Red skull be the one who had Peter’s parents killed and not just some fake copy cat and Have Sandman kill petter’s Uncle Ben and have the version of Martin Lee mister negative from The PS Spider-Man games and have Petter have Harry and Ned be his childhood friends who became villains later on
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DAWG THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP REBOOTING SPIDER-MAN AND WON'T LET HIM PROGRESS AND CHANGE AS A PERSON! Every time he advances in a way that could shake up the status quo- WOOPS NEVER MIND HE'S A SINGLE BROKE COLLEGE DROP OUT LIVING OFF OF AUNT MAY'S PENSION AGAIN! He doesn't need a reboot he needs someone to send the entire Marvel Bullpen to the fucking Shadow Realm!
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>>152628588
I don’t know any MJ fans who bragged about being a pedophile. But Gwenschizo did. Gwen fans are bad people.
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>>152628768
fuck off.
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>>152628815
Gwen fans always spam threads and scream about how much the love child rape from dusk to dawn. At this point I have no more love for Gwen or the country of Poland. I no longer want to see her now that pedophiles like Gwenschizo control her. Gwen fans also say awful things about black people.
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>>152628875
I have no love for you MJ fans since you hate Gwen for no reason bear that in mind ALWAYS.
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>>152628923
MJ fans never bragged about raping children or spammed a thread, but Gwen fans do. Terrible people. Gwen is a bad person with bad people fans.
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>>152628947
That was a serious post i hate MJ fans since you hate Gwen for no reason.
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has it really been 8 years of this retard shitposting about Gwen? For no reason other than his blond hair fetish? Not a single thing to like about her and dozens, if not hundreds of worthless spam threads made in her honor.
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>>152629014
Pretty much. You don’t see MJ fans doing that. Only Gwen fans embarrass and humiliate themselves like this. It’s 5 AM in Warsaw and he’s still doing this.
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>>152629037
>he’s literally here past dawn screaming in impotent frustration about how he’s a child rapist who loves Gwen
I think the other mods should take away his mod privileges for mental health reasons.
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>>152629061
Notn funny.
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>>152627102
I think even without woke stuff Marvel would still be terrible because this was garbage.
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It’s very funny. I wonder if we can get you to stay awake until you start hallucinating, then it’ll be very funny.
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>>152629213
Agreed. Them trying to synergize with Marvel Rivals, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, and a show for literal preschoolers isn’t woke, but it’s still retarded. And All New Venom and Carnage were wet farts.
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>>152629250
Sorry, that was for the pedophile over in >>152629092
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>>152629213
>>152629268
I just want to see them blink. They’ve dug their heels in about how Paul is here to stay and Peter and MJ will never get back together. I don’t expect a good comic right now. I just want to watch them cave to angry fans.
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Is there a comic book character stronger than Knull?

Keep in mind I'm talking about God of Light Knull with the Uni-Power, the Void, All-Black the Necrosword and the ability to control the Grendel and the Big Mother.
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>>152629365
I think this one Polish guy obsessed with child rape and Gwen Stacy could compete with Knull.
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>>152629293
Either way it's still not funny lay off the insults will you.
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>>152629456
I hate spam like this,
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>>152629365
I could see Volthoom being more than a match for Knull, especially at the height of his power.
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>>152629494
Gwen Stacy fans love spam and child rape. And they’ll stay awake until they die of cardiac arrest.
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>>152629515
That’s a good matchup. And I think you’re right, I just wanted to talk about something and Knull Blanco’s design and concept is growing on me.
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>>152629604
I liked your Madara Uchicha bit. :3
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>>152629604
It is pretty cool. Knull becoming Captain Universe in order to fight Hela was not something I was expecting to happen.
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>>152629621
>You may have girlboss’d me Hela, but I have the power of BEING A SHAMELESS FUCKING SELL OUT
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4chan moderation staff collude with polish pedophiles
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>>152627358
marywhorefags on suicide watch
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>>152629645
*Charges up for fifteen issues like it's DBZ.*
>YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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>>152629666
>Gwenfags only make three posts.
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>>152629667
Imagine being Knull. Imagine turning into your own spiritual antithesis just because this one Swedish bitch talked down to you.
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>>152629697
>"Shameful as it may be, I cannot deny the seductive allure of...THE UNI-POWER!"
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>>152629666
checc'd
sex with big titty redheads
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>>152629709
*Still though, it's going to be a weird ride. Gods of Darkness don't typically embrace the Light, even for nefarious purposes and those that do are forever changed.
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>>152629711
Flash is blonde though. Unacceptable. To Gwen-esque.
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>>152629744
Like I said, it’s the most shameless way of selling out. Literally betraying everything about yourself for power and spite.

That’s actually a cool concept. It’s a fun place for any villain to be. He’s sunk as low as he possibly could.
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>>152629765
It's probably the most interesting thing Marvel has done in a while. Everything else by comparison feels plain.
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>>152629744
Knull Blanco redemption arc incoming. He’s absorbing the alt-universe Captain Universe Eddie to get his power, maybe Eddie becomes his conscious.
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>>152629816
>The Comeback King 2: Electric Boogaloo.
It'll be glorious.
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>>152629888
Holy fuck I don't wanna see this shit again. Somehow Stegman ruins the golden concept of Cap Uni Venom and it turns out dogshit in an even shittier event.
>>152627102
Yeah I'm gonna make a thread for Spider-Man over the weekend and it's gonna be of good quality. What is good schizo repellant? Any ideas?
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>>152629922
Yeah...it wasn't great. Hopefully we'll get a better design.
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>>152629973
*Or they can just keep Knull Blanco.
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>>152629993
I guess Knull getting unipower could be interesting. But he has barely done anything as actual knull so him turning face is about as dumb as thinking that heel Knull was any good beyond his initial role in the first 6 issues of Cates's run.
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>>152630060
Well, it seems for now, that he'll be using those powers for evil but we'll have to wait until QiB is over to know more. For all we know, Peter could end up siphoning the Uni-Power from Knull.
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>>152630107
So the uni-power is having some long-reaching all according to keikaku goals? I dunno how to feel about that. Too bad Knull isn't fun to read. He's just the writers desperately wanting the reader to think he is menacing when all stakes in comics have been gone for so long now.
Also QiB and uni-Knull look ass as well.
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>>152630164
As with Ultimate I am once again only in it for the Peter and MJ shit.
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>>152627601
>That thread
>Barely makes it to 39 posts before falling apart, a true failure
>This thread
>93 posts and counting even outside peak hours, still going strong.
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>>152630235
Eh. They lost me after Spencer concerning MJ/Peter stuff. Ult was just an ok run that was good for dismantling their muh sales arguments and I thought it would actually try harder at having more go on per issue. Like Mayday being sidelined so hard instead of having her tag along Ben was lame. She didn't even need to have superpowers. Just like being a moral support or handy set of extra eyes is enough for me, something to bounce off of rather than Black Cat giving us tired "male is flustered while female is hyper competent and mature" dialogue. Lame.
616 is even worse. I mean I'm glad She-Venom will stop the fucking bullshit they pulled with this male body nonsense but man...beyond that the whole event of Death Spiral and QiB will be so disjointed and decompressed just like every other one. And the gold ANV still sucks even if it is She-Venom. Black and white all the way. And they can't help but have the hair flowing when that is antithetical to true spider-man costumes. Only Julia was able to pull it off, and I know that will ruffle Jess supporters but who cares, she's an Avenger.
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Where is Cletus?
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>>152630339
Cletus dumped Carnage because he didn’t care about being a god, then Carnage cloned him, bonded to him, they ate original Cletus and absorbed his memories, only for Cletus to dump Carnage AGAIN, for the exact same reason.
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>>152630719
it really is incredible that this was preferable to Peter having the son. And now Venom has a son so the timeline is irrevocably fucked up the shitter anyway.
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>>152630769
Once again, the retards in charge self sabotage and make the book worse to satisfy their own personal obsessions.
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>>152630719
Thank God this was retconned.
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>>152633119
God had nothing to do with that evil retcon. They ruined the entire Osborn family for the sake of Gwen's mythical purity. Gwen's kids were better characters than she ever was, and it's time we stopped pretending they weren't.
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>>152627102
How old is every one in this thread?
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>>152634049
Too old
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>>152627102
Zendaya is not a Mary Jane variant. She is Michelle.Jones.
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>>152634341
they should put Michelle Jones in 616
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>>152628412
Are you stupid? please kys
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>>152634562
No! Fuck you and fuck Gwenschizo!
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>>152634341
Michelle Jones WATSON
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>>152633119
yeah we just got this instead
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Kelly Interview Part 6
https://aiptcomics.com/2026/02/26/joe-kelly-amazing-spider-man-part-6/
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>>152635270
>Kelly is trying to pass off #1000 as more than another oversized issue where nothing actually happens.
Not buying it.
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>>152635178
Yes MJ beung a cheater and whore is much better the Gwen being one a true masterpiece.
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>>152635295
What bothers me is how he's been doing this all very badly. There's little to no moments of reflection or introspection on Peter's part so it feels hollow.
I'm expecting more spectacle over substance which seems par for his writing on this run.
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>>152635393
Gwen is a cheater and a whore, though. Also, edits made in MS Paint aren't canon.
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>>152635393
>This is the first thing Gwenschizo does on limping out of bed.
You have no life outside of 4chan Spider-Man threads! This is your home forever, with no real friends or family.
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>>152627102
...So, are they implying something romantic going on between Dylan and Paul or what?
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>>152635502
We should make another thread after this one ends and call him a faggot if he doesn't spam that one too.
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>>152635154
She said she doesnt go by that name, I wonder why?

MJ's father was a scumbag, it's plausible he has an illegitimate child. MJs half-black half-sister.

... or she is not the only person with the last name of Watson.

regardless, if she introduced herself she would say Michelle Jones.
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>>152635401
That seems to be how Spider-Man has been written ever since Lowe became editor. Very little time to slow-down, just bouncing from one big event to the next.
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>>152635599
She'd say MJ

>>152635603
Gang War was a incredibly dog shit event too. Total waste of time.
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>>152635623
And a victim of last-minute rewrites since we never did find out who this person was.
The end of Spider-Osborn felt similar, Kelly told to wrap things up sooner than he was expecting because they decided they needed to do Death Spiral right now.
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>>152635652
It was honestly the better choice for that one. Death Spiral feels like the only story with genuine stakes behind it since Kelly's run started. Something that actually has an impact beyond the issue it's in.
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>>152635623
She would introduce her full name as Michelle Jones
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>>152635787
>"I prefer MJ"
No, I just don't think she would.
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>>152635603
It would be nice if they slowed down the narrative at times so the emotional hits actually hit and you're not left in this blurry, turbid mess of rushing off to hit the next climactic moment of the issue. So little room to breathe kills what should be an emotional climax but you're already pushed off to the next moment.
These things should be stepping stones building up the emotional payoff and constantly pushing to the next plot point before processing the current one sours what he's trying to write.
Maybe I'm too anxious to see how this all plays out and it'll flow better in trade since that's how comics are written these days.
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>>152635802
>First and Last name please.
> MJ
>Sorry, im going to need the name as it appears on the account.
> MJ
> Ma'am, in order to continue this call I need to verify you first and Last as it appears on the account.
> OH MY GOD! Ok! Miiiiiiiicheeeeelle. Joooones! God you are such a fascist!
>thank you so much, we are on a recorded line, how can I help you today?
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>>152636223
>Hey what's your name
>Michelle Jones, but I prefer MJ
BING BONG, IT'S SIMPLE
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>>152635802
She would introduce herself as Michelle Jones, then say "Call me, MJ."
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>>152636238
Right but she would still introduce herself as Michelle Jones, she wouldn't initially introduce herself as MJ.
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>>152636291
Not any of these anons but this argument is pointless. Who gives a fuck about the movies. They aren't even relevant to why people like these characters.
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>>152636398
When people say zendaya is a Mary Jane variant it degrades the character.
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>>152636512
At least they acknowledge that Gwen is worthless.
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>>152635427
>Gwen is a cheater and a whore
no she is not.
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>>152636815
Yes she is that's why they had to replace her with Spider-Gwen in 616, who is a much better and stronger Gwen
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>>152636815
Ahem...FUCK! Ahem...fuck FUCK fuck! Ahem...Gwen fucks Norman all day long!
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>>152636897
Very true!!!
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>>152636915
WOO!
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aah there you spider-man fans now shitposting aside the results of the most Wanted Marvel Epic Collections and it does not look good for you

The LIST:
20) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Demon Bear Saga
19) Daredevil Epic Collection vol 1: The Man Without Fear
18) Ghost Rider Epic Collection Vol.1: Hell On Wheels
17 ) Generation X Epic Collection Vol. 1: Back To School
16) She-Hulk Epic Collection Vol.3: Breaking the Fourth Wall
15) Excalibur Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Cross-Time Caper
14) Iron Man Epic Collection Vol.16: War Games
13) Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home
12) Daredevil Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 3: Out
11) Thor Epic Collection Vol. 5: The Fall of Asgard
10) Fantastic Four Epic Collection Vol. 5: The Name Is Doom
9) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 1: Renewal
8) Daredevil Epic Collection Vol. 20: Purgatory & Paradise
7) Fantastic Four Epic Collection Volume 2: The Master Plan of Doctor Doom
6) Punisher Epic Collection Vol.3: Kingpin Rules
5) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power
4) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 5: Second Genesis
3) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 6: Proteus
2) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 8: I, Magneto
1) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 20: Cosmic Adventures

As you can there is a very HIGH demand to f X-Men/mutant books to be reprinted a total of seven as you can see while when it comes to spider-man there is only a demad of three books.

Now to be honest the odds of Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power to get a repint are rather low given it was printed three times in the past.

likewise it is rather unlikely that Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home will get a reprint anytime given the first print was just last year and it only recently went of print it is far more likely they will do reprints of X-Men books instead. In short X-Men fans win again cheers mate.
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>>152636828
>>152636897
that;s not true and yo know it now I suggest you laf off the insults unless you want this thread to die real quick.
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>>152637073
Nah, they won't reprint X-FAGS anytime soon. Instead, we'll get more Captain Universe kino.
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>>152637117
Yes they wil since there is a very demand for them the same can't be said for you spider-man books however at least not for the epics. Oh don't forget the omnibus reprint poll goes live on march 4 that's next week.
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>>152637184
Cosmic Adventures has more demand. It's at #1, all of the X-Books are not.
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>>152637209
Yes but the thing there is more of a demand of X-Books to reprinted then they are of Spider-Man ones so they will most likely reprint more X-Books instead of of Spider-Man ones.
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>>152637073
Spider-Man is number one again! Sorry. X-Fags! Sorry pedophiles! You raped too many children!
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>>152637816
Not a child rapist also look a the list again
>17 ) Generation X Epic Collection Vol. 1: Back To School
>15) Excalibur Epic Collection Vol. 2: The Cross-Time Caper
>9) New Mutants Epic Collection Vol. 1: Renewal
>4) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 5: Second Genesis
>3) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 6: Proteus
>2) X-Men Epic Collection Vol. 8: I, Magneto
>13) Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home
>5) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power
>1) Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 20: Cosmic Adventures

Granted Spider-man book are higher on the list but there is more of demad for X-Books. Besides as mentioned before the odds of Amazing Spider-Man Modern Era Epic Collection Vol. 1: Coming Home getting a reprint are rather given it only went o print not long ago. the same goes for Amazing Spider-Man Epic Collection Vol. 1: Great Power sinceit had three prints. so you in the end we X-Men fans win again while you spider-man fans lose have a nice day now.
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>>152627102
I kind of liked how Eddie, MJ, and Flash all consider Paul deeply irritating.

>>152637073
>Polish people don’t know how to count
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>>152638069
>Granted Spider-man book are higher on the list
>but there is more of demad for X-Books
There is no way for both of those things to be true simultaneously YOU STUPID PEDOPHILE
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>>152638088
>>Polish people don’t know how to count
Spider-man fans are just angry since they know they will most likely get only ONE reprint of a book while X-Men fans will get MANY. It only show are X-Men fanbase is much stronger then yours spider-man fans.
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>>152637486
No, because Cosmic Adventures is #1, therefore it has more demand.
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>>152638107
Oh and suppose you think the results are faked and the poll was rigged right? fucking idiot good luck trying to prove that.
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>>152638191
Spider-Man is #1, which means it has more demand than X-Men. It's simple science.
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>>152638179
So what? even if they do reprint it how much will it sell it now? it had two print runs in the past. Each new print run is lower then the previous one. They will prrint something like 1000 copies of it this time and that will be it. While X-Books get far more reprints so by that logic they wiill sell more then the spider-man ones so you still lose.
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>>152638206
No since this would be it's third print run so they will make about 1000 copies of it. X-Books will sell more since they will get far more reprints.
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>>152638312
Nah, X-Men will get lower reprints because they aren't as in demand. Cosmic Adventures will sell like hotcakes.
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>>152638350
that's where you are wrong let me clue you in something have you ever noticed that the X-Men epics tend to go out of priint faster then the spider-man ones? care to know why because the sell more that's why it's the same thing when it comes to the ominbus x-men blue gold omnibus sold out before it was officially released.
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>>152638350
I like Peter with a beard. they should have kept his long hair and beard in space and for when he came back.
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>>152638997
fuck off.
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>>152638997
>I like Peter with a beard
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>>152638191
Spider-Man is number one on the poll. Sorry retard. You’re the one who is denying the science!

>>152638997
I’m kind of interested in Kelly’s promised status quo shift with ASM 1000. It could be a fakeout but I’d like to see an older Peter with a bit more stability again.
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>>152639040
>I’m kind of interested in Kelly’s promised status quo shift with ASM 1000. It could be a fakeout but I’d like to see an older Peter with a bit more stability again.
It'll be an offscreen intervention with his clones, and them getting along. With Kaine being Peter's roommate and you'll accept it.
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>>152639000
Gwen Stacy fans are so rude! Every time they show up the only talk about child rape or scream at everyone to fuck off. That’s why I prefer Mary Jane and Felicia Hardy instead of that PEDOPHILE Gwen.
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>>152639054
>Gwen Stacy fans are so rude
No suprise there really given you MJ fans crap on Gwen time and time again for no reason in fact you are doing even doing so now. NOW GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE FOR GOOD.
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>>152639051
>With Kaine being Peter's roommate and you'll accept it.
I genuinely would. Almost anything is better than this. But I’m not buying until Peter and MJ are back together. Single issue voter.
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>>152639095
piss off.
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>>152639088
I prefer Felicia Hardy she’s not a WHORE like Gwen or a CHEATER like MJ.
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>>152639095
GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE
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>>152639102
>>152639116
See, this is why nobody wants Gwen Stacy to come back. Gwen fans are just the worst.
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>Eddie and Carnage just name drop Torment out of nowhere
Weird. No real setup for that. Or did I miss that issue?
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What would YOU do if you have Marvel's editorial at your mercy in a warehouse in the middle of nowhere?
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>>152639103
As an MJ fan I do not agree with your words, but I respect your right to say them. I would never scream at you to fuck off or talk about child rape, unlike fans of other, worse characters.
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>>152639103
why did you crap so hard o gwen? if you ask me you do it to mask your true feelings. You MJ fans just can't stand the truth that Gwen was the better girl whiile your MJ truly is a cheater and whore.
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>>152639135
Why haven't you learned English yet?
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>>152639132
Thank you! That’s a lovely thing to say. Maybe MJ fans are quite nice after all, and not too different from us Felicia fans.

>>152639135
Wow! How rude! Gwen fans keep on acting like the very worst, yet again! I never want to see Gwen Stacy ever again!
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>>152639132
Gallant.

>>152639135
Goofus.
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>>152639120
You have nobody but to blame but yourselves MJ fans you should have left Gwen alone is it really that much a suprise that now MJ is the cheater not so funny when the shoe is on the other foot is it.
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>>152639147
>Wow! How rude! Gwen fans keep on acting like the very worst, yet again! I never want to see Gwen Stacy ever again!
Oh but you will and very soon now yes ASM 1000 will fix you MJ fans for good.
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>>152639170
I already explained I like Felicia Hardy best. Gwen fans are so ignorant and full of hate. They are small people, with small hearts.
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>>152639095
Kaine can convince Peter to stay with MJ.
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>>152639189
No they are not.
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>>152639183
You should be nicer just like the MJ fans I respect MJ more now and Gwen less.
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>>152627354
My best bet would be the smell.
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>>152639170
Again, why haven't you learned proper English yet? Your translator is fucked
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Superboy-Prime will undo OMD. It has been forseen!
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>>152639205
MJ is cheater and the whore not Gwen so may she go to hell for her sins.
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>>152639286
fanmade pic.
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>>152639361
Gwen fucks dozens of black guys in heaven thoughever
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>>152639125
You didn’t miss anything. That is the setup, they know who Torment is because Carnage has been texting him. Eddie also shouldn’t even know who Paul is, this is their first time meeting
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>>152639379
Nope, official crossover. It's over, Gwenschizo.
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>>152639361
The MJ fans have been very nice and kind so far I think she could be invited for threesome sex with Peter and Felicia, but Gwen fans have been terrible and worse than Hitler so I think Gwen and her fans should rot in hell.
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>>152639403
That's stupid if Eddie knows about the texts
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>>152639493
He does not, carnage deletes them, and I think they’re a third party app so he couldn’t check his ISP or anything.
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>>152639527
But again, they literally have a conversation about Torment. So they just pluck that out of thin air?
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>>152639103
BC is literally a slut-cycle
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>>152639415
The only one going top hell is MJ for two reasons she did get peter to do the deal with mephisto and she did cheat on him with Paul.
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>>152639547
I might be reaching here, but I assumed Carnage lied and said he just knew about him as a target/potential host. Like how he knew about Bushwhacker.
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>>152639103
>I prefer Felicia Hardy she’s not a WHORE
She's the town bike of the Marvel universe lmao
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>>152639125
>>152639547
I reread the issue. Eddie and Carnage know about Torment from Bailey Bushkin’s files.
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>>152639565
>>152639818
How rude! Once again Gwen Stacy fans show their hatred and pettiness.
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>>152639818
I thought that was She-Hulk.
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>>152639940
fuck off
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>>152639964
Close second
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>>152640019
You know I think MJ fans are much nicer people than Gwen fans. I don’t like Gwen very much at all anymore.
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>>152640221
PISS OFF.
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>>152640019
>>152640236
Can you post a picture of your polish Gwen Stacy comics? Otherwise I don’t think anyone will believe you’re a real fan of hers
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Hey remember when the shitposter threatened everyone in here? That should be IP bannable
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>>152640319
spam.
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>>152640456
What is?
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>>152640221
Gwen clearly has the worst fans of anyone in her family. George, Jill, Sarah and Gabriel all have better fans.
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>>152640729
>, Sarah and Gabriel all have better fans.
Yes I am sure those fans were really happy to learn they were shitty clones madey harry have I struck a nerve yet? I think just did.
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>>152640828
Clones are people, too. Gwen still fucked dozens of black men.
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>>152640828
By behaving like such a rancid dickhole, you're only proving my point.
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>>152640850
No clones are are different then humans kaine and ben reilly prove this beyond a doubt.
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>>152640850
>Gwen still fucked dozens of black men.
no she did not.
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>>152640914
She did and video taped it for all to see.
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>>152640897
>I have not read a single spider-man comic
It’s incredibly easily to tell, Polack. You should probably stop posting here since your knowledge is 60 years out of date and you’re retarded to boot.
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>>152640928
Mj is the cheater not gwen now leave her alone,
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>>152640968
It's true clones different then humans
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It's true he really is super sand lesbian
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>>152640914
Gwen was going to beat up Aunt May... she was NUTS! If Harry wasnt there she would not have stopped! WHAT A CRAZY BITCH GWEN WAS!!!!!
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>>152640986
I can’t believe Gwen Stacy fans are such horrible bigots. I hear they’re fans of Paul and child rape foo.
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>>152641138
>>152641143
More spam jannies do your thing,
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>>152641138
Damn! Her fans are just as violent and horrible! No wonder they’re so obsessed with child rape!
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>>152641138
Gwen sucks but this is kino
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>>152641169
I agree Gwen sucks.
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>MJ fans: nice and polite and make good and intelligent posts
>Gwen fans: loud and violent and only post spam and talk about child rape
I’m going to write a letter to Marvel asking them to make sure Gwen Stacy stays dead forever!
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>>152641187
it’s only a matter of time before Spider-Gwen fully replaces her and that shitpost about her broken neck comes true
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>>152641187
>>152641157
this is spam jannies fix their wagon.
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>>152641203
yet more spam
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>>152641213
>talking about comic books is spam because you, a polish retard who doesn’t read comic books, doesn’t like hearing it
Fuck off and die
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>>152641233
>MJ fans do nothing but spam threads your number is up NOW
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>>152641244
talking about comics isn’t spam you retarded backseat janitor
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>>152641138
Aunt may is such a cuck here. I thought she was working class, she should throw hands at gwen.
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>>152641576
fuck you
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>>152641244
It was 3 AM in Poland when you posted this.
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>>152641641
It’s almost 4 AM in Poland when you posted this.
>HYPERTENSION
>APNEA
>CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE
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>>152641669
>Also, OBESITY and the dreaded condition known as GINGIVITIS.
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>>152641669
If he starts hallucinating and have mental breakdowns maybe his posts will start becoming entertaining instead of boring.
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>>152641685
Sleep deprivation does not cause gingivitis! What fucking medical school did you go to?

Obesity though, yeah, he’s fucking up his metabolism to post here too. He’s basically slowly killing himself because he’s angry about people talking about Spider-Man. We’re literally poisoning him with our posts. We are pushing him towards death.
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>>152641710
I know, I just assume that he's unhygienic as fuck and has gingivitis in addition to all of that other shit.
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>>152641576
Classic May would die if Gwen farted on her. The primary reason Peter hid his secret identity was so she wouldn’t literally die of shock
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>>152641728
>BRAAAAPPP!
>"Gwen, no!"
>THUNK!
>"MAAAYYY!!! How could you, Gwen?!"
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>>152641720
Given he posts here at like 2-3 pm in the afternoon on waking up, after he collapses in exhaustion after another all nighter, yeah, he lives like a fucking slob. I think the funniest part is that he’s genuinely killing himself with this. He’s placing immense strain on his physical and mental health. He’s literally torturing himself to keep up, his life is agony.
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>>152641748
>this will be ASM by 2030
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>>152641767
Grim.
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>>152641656
>>152641669
He gave up and fucked off as soon as this was posted, hey Gwenschizo that means you lost you little retard!
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>>152641864
I like the idea of Spider-Man threads as a cancer eating away at the schizo’s mind though.
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>>152639032
Kaine is best spider, fight me
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>>152641902
fuck off.
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>>152639051
I would not be mad about this at all. Especially if Spidercide is included. I liked that story with Ben trying to save him.
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>>152642096
Good morning. Remember if you let yourself fall asleep, you’ll lose and we’ll laugh at you. Stay awake. Keep it up.
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>>152642145
spam.
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>>152642236
Drink lots of coffee
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Gwen was always a useless boring bitch and I have no idea why Gwenschizo is so obsessed with her. I think it's because he's also a useless boring bitch.
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>>152627102
I think a lot is hinging on Death Spiral. If they don’t start repairing this status quo, people are going to be using 1000 as a jumping off point rather than a jumping on.
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>>152643110
Well they began by massacring Peter and Eddie’s extended families, so they’re off to a great start.
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>>152643145
We barely know them. I doubt Eddie or Peter even know any of these people, given they've had no role in the story up until now. I'm still not sure if Torment is targeting actual family, or just fixating on people with similar sounding surnames. Peter doesn't have any blood relation to Aunt May, she's his uncle's wife, so it's a pretty piss poor spiral either way.
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>>152643165
He’s been targeting Reilly. Fitzpatrick and Parker
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>>152643165
The comic showed Peter’s second cousin and Eddie’s uncle and cousin were victims. Plus all the Reillys. He’s targeting their family.
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>>152644098
> I have a new message for you. IM WITH FLASH NOW!
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Eddie's dad is a target next
>>152644511
it's the conversation on the roof and then they're good ish by the Venom
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>>152644511
You’re desperate for a superior Paul. I guess Paul himself was too much of a failure.

>>152644089
>>152644093
>>152644098
>VenoMJ thinks he’s flirting with her without realizing he’s doing a bit
CUTE
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With a new issue every week, I’m pretty sure Gwenschizo needs to pull multiple all-nighters. We can basically make a new thread continuously while he becomes more and more sleep deprived.
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>>152644093
>>152644098
I like the dramatic irony but they probably can’t stick the landing.
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>>152642512
lol she was better then current MJ at least she never made a deal with mephsto or cheat on peter like MJ did.
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>>152645842
>"Current MJ"
Nigga, it's been almost 20 years. And in all that time they have only came up with Spider-Gwen who is even more irrelevant than MJ who has been inhibited by this shit for 20 years.
Shit bait. Plus they're fictional characters schizo.
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>>152645842
You only make the same three posts over and over again. You’re a useless boring bitch.
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>>152645356
>>VenoMJ thinks he’s flirting with her without realizing he’s doing a bit
and then he finds out MJ is inside there and the flame war begins.
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>>152645855
I’m glad that Spider-Gwen blacks Gwen Stacy from coming back.
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>>152645861
It sounds like they’ll reconcile pretty quickly, but what do I know? I’m not a pedophile, and maybe I don’t get what we’re going for.
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>>152645855
I don't care about other versions of Gwen just the orginal one Spider-Gwen means nothing to me and I still prefer the orginal one.
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>>152645842
Personally I prefer MJ to a disloyal whore like Rogue that slut was all over Magneto’s dick in X-Men 98
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>>152645883
Spider-Gwen is the original Gwen now, she used the cosmic cube to replace the original Gwen Stacy and George Stacy FOREVER.
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>>152645873
the preview page imply something else the covers don't matter only what's inside the book. And I happen to know somebody who does have a leak to that book. Take my word for it you won't like once it drops.
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>>152645907
Oh you should leak the book for us if you do we’ll stop calling you a pedophile but if you don’t then you’re stuck like this forever and basically admitting it.
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>>152645904
Spider-Gwen does not matter only the original Gwen Stacy does. That's why they wanted to bring her back at the end of OMD it's ALWAYS been about her. Editoral wants her and peter to be with each again and so do I and some day that will happen we want MJ to be gone for good.
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>>152645942
Don’t bother, Gwenschizo would rather be known as a child rapist rather than give us the leaks because he’s PROUD of it he’s PROUD that he’s raping children he wants us to know and he wants us to respect him for it.
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>>152645950
GIVE US THE LEAKS AND PROVE YOU AREN’T A PEDOPHILE
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>>152645942
Yeah I could leak but i won't you see your pain is my gain MJ fans. Know anybody else who used a similar phrase now think hard now.
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>>152645971
>GIVE US THE LEAKS AND PRO
i rather watch you MJ fans suffer so i won't me and the editoral team is having a real ball with you.
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>>152645984
>>152645996
>he’d rather be known openly as a pedophile
Oh wow you sure outsmarted us. Message received, we’ll acknowledge you as a child molester if you want us to respect that so badly!
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>>152645984
>>152645996
>he got tricked into calling himself a child rapist again.
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>>152645883
Yeah and she is even more irrelevant except for when they dredge up her story once Norman turns evil again. And that story is 50 years old. The only other time she was relevant nowadays is her getting blacked.
>>152645996
Sorry I think you misunderstood, your trans-lator was off that day and Brevoort actually said all of editorial would have their balls with you which is their code for rubbing your face with their testicles.
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This is why I prefer Spider-Gwen to Gwen Stacy there are SO MANY old Gwen Stacy fans who are disgusting pedophiles! Yuck! Now I can’t even see Gwen Stacy without thinking of child rapists like Gwenschizo and Gwen is forever tainted in my eyes. I say no more Gwen Stacy and I say no more pedophiles.
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>>152646043
You MJ fans deserve to suffer for shitting on Gwen all the time long may you suffer again your pain is our gain MJ fans.
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>>152646050
spam.
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>>152646073
No pain, no gain. And MJ is more popular than ever, everywhere that isn't here. And she is already popular here...except for you. The guy who gets banned reguularly and sucks Editorial cock.
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>>152646070
THe OG Gwen Stacy was way better then Spider-Gwen.
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>>152646088
>No pain, no gain. And MJ is more popular than ever, everywhere that isn't here.
Oh really care to explain then why editoral made her a cheater then maybe she was popular once but that time is long gone now.
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>>152646095
No the OG Gwen Stacy was a stupid whore and didn’t have any powers and also the OG Gwen Stacy has too many child molesters as fans, Gwen is a bad person because her fans are bad people. I like Spider-Gwen because she has powers and is a good role model for young transgender people and is better in every way.
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>>152646095
What is the meaningful difference in personality or character? What agency have both displayed? And have the stories they have been involved in, been strengthened by their inclusion? Or is it just because she's blonde and had feminine hair?
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>>152646116
Then why’d they break her up with Paul huh explain that OH WAIT YOU CAN’T.

Dumb pedophile.
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>>152646119
The only one whoever cheated on peter was MJ. you can deny it all you want but the truth is Gwen was always peter's true love they were always meant to be with each other that's why we hate MJ so much.
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>>152646129
Yeah she broke up with paul just to go for flash oh yeah she will fuck him for sure who will be next norman?
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>>152646151
Gwen is a trashbag cunt who betrayed Harry Osborn read it and weep child rapists oh wait you guys are POLISH so you can’t even read English haha
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>>152646116
Editorial did it because they just didn't want to exert any effort when it came to writing and so that they could turn Spider-Man into a vehicle for appealing to men who didn't have to read old comics or think too hard about the stories they were consuming and to easily just have new readers jump in and see that they can follow along. Problem is, they couldn't substitute the relationships/depth of the characters with any ideas of their own. So they use cheap nostalgia like Gwen or use bait tactics like cheap drama/cheating in order to hook ESLs like you who are into Bollywood faggotry. That time is long gone chiefly because they chose to make her into a shallow person. If I created the Gwenschizo is a pedo idea, going by your logic, then Gwenschizo deserves to get lynched for being forced to have sex with kids. But we all know Gwenschizo is real and if he fuck kids, then that actually deserves that punishment, because...you're real.
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>>152627102
the whore is boring and her fans pathetic crybabies
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>>152646190
I think MJ fans are very nice but Gwen fans are whiny pedophiles who scream about child rape like this guy:

>>152645984
>>152645996
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>>152627102
It is sad to me that so many people don't want to retcon Paul because it would invite BAD WRITING and making Paul a villain would make Paul more important to the mythos than he already is. These are terrible arguments. Paul cucked Peter, full stop. There is no getting around it. Peter Parker is a loathsome cuck, how can anyone respect him? MJ, his "Great Love", now lives in infamy for fucking Paul and cheating on Peter.

Paul will forever be etched into the mythos of Spider-Man, so they might as well make him a villain. And now his high school bully is going to add fuel to the fire. Flash is going to fuck MJ. How are you people still fans of this bullshit. Peter is well within his rights to crash out and murder everyone. But nope. POWER AND RESPONSIBILITY!

>Peter, Uncle Ben here, speaking to you from the great beyond. Always remember the responsible thing to do is to allow anyone and everyone to fuck Mary Jane and then become friends with them. Then thank them for pleasuring your "Great Love".

I fucking hate Peter Parker and despise how stupid this situation is and how easy it is to fix. but they fucking don't. These faggots in Marvel need to be humbled in a bad way.
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>>152646584
>Paul will forever be etched into the mythos of Spider-Man
For all of 5m and 5yrs from now we'll be laughing at the entire situation because of how much worse things have gotten
>Peter should murder people because he couldn't fuck MJ at the time
Please be serious for a moment
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>>152646609
Its been 4 years and counting since Paul. only degenerates and people who have disengaged are laughing. Then there is the itch that wont go away, been 20 years since OMD, and again only degenerates and people who stopped caring can laugh.

>Peter should murder people because he couldn't fuck MJ at the time
>Please be serious for a moment

It's not about not being able to fuck her its about having him be humiliated by having everyone else fucking her.
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>>152646681
>caring
Bruh we still care but in only the measured and mature way of just waiting and not buying shit books and making fun of editorial in ways that are constructive or ways that further remove their motivation from continuing down this road.
>murder
Just chill. The Peter we see now isn't the one we had before. So Idgaf because they're faggots who corrupted it. And this corruption is so blatant that it isn't even hard to see from the normie perspective as even they can tell iron boy jr isn't Spider-Man or as cool as Raimi-Man. Like they can tell editorial is the fault of all this. We have memes that keep the old Marvel alive, much to the chagrin of current Marvel. In this case, old history won't die because continuity in superheroes will not die, to its strength and detriment.
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Paul is ultimately a bigger black eye for the editors and the writers than the fandom. He’s getting shitcanned before the end of Death Spiral, obviously, but he’s an embarrassment for the writers.
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>>152646050
I think it’s funny to trick the schizo into doing shit like this and I don’t care who gets mad!
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>>152647189
>Not using Kaine or 60's Spider-Man...
>"No just use symbiote again"
Holy fucking incompetence...and the art isn't even interesting...
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>>152646681
>Its been 4 years and counting since Paul. only degenerates and people who have disengaged are laughing.
It's called detached engagement and far healthier than having constant mental breakdowns or "crashouts" because 2 characters aren't fucking.
Do I care? yes. I grew up reading about these characters and love them. I don't like what Marvel has done to them and I'm still hoping it blows up in their face one day. Though seeing how poorly Marvel is doing and everyone is shitting on them it seems I'm in luck.
Am I going to have a mental breakdown over it? No. I have my fanfics and headcanons.
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>>152647314
I don't think it's the symbiote. It showed ASM 263 where he meets the kid that becomes Steel Spider(-Man) so it's the Black Suit era
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>>152647314
Priest wrote Spider-Man during that period so it makes sense
Prime feels like an odd choice by him
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>>152646765
>>152646809
Its not just a Black Eye for them, its different this time. they gives us 4 years of Paul and then this Flash Bullshit for the past six months, like they do the same "friends" scene 3 or 4 times, what the fuck is up with that. Eveytime its like, "its nothing", they "Squashed it", "oh look they squashed it again". why fuck do they keep doing it?!

Waiting isnt enough, action is required.
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>>152647386
>Why do they keep doing it?
Brevoort is probably trying to force it through but gets cockblocked each time.
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>>152647358
>>152647376
Ah ok then. It just read to me that mean Superman = mean Spider-Man and they already had black Superman costume and black Spider-Man costume variant already.
>Priest
Ah ok I forget that that's the era he's writing. Well I put my foot in my mouth and mistook some stuff. Still a lame and boring cover.
>symbiote
Yeah I know the distinction. Whatever. If I type one and not the other, who cares. It only matters in the story.
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>>152646179
No the will get rid of MJ and revive Gwen it is Peter's Destiny is to be with to her..
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Our time was come BC bros
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>>152647440
No Gwenschizo, they dumped those plans and Brevoort got demoted from Avengers to X-Fags because of it. Gwen's not coming back, of this you can be sure.
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>>152647416
No Brevoort/Lowe/Yoshida is just doing it as planned. They know what they are doing. They just can't seem to grasp they are getting diminishing returns and it ruins the brand and the trust readers had.
>>152647386
>action is required
Alright I'll bite but what do you actually think can be done? 4chan doesn't allow raids anymore, you shouldn't plan anything illegal, and the most constructive thing is just to not buy, or better yourself until you get good at writing or drawing so that you can get hired and force their hands, simple as that.
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>>152647386
My read of it is that it's going to mirror the conversation MJ and Peter have.
There was a ton of stuff left unsaid and they never really unpacked everything. They skirted around the issue but never actually sat down and talked. In-universe it's been 2yrs since they've actually done anything besides placate each other and trade niceties.
There are several moments in Wells' run where MJ and Peter have romantic tension and MJ squashes it, Like after Dark Web and they're leaving Ravenholme and Peter brings up how well they work together and MJ says that's exactly why they can't do that again.
It's made very clear even in Wells' run that they still love each other deeply so this is going to be figuring out where they stand with each other. This is why MJ brings up the status of the relationship with Flash because they've been friends for a long time and even dated but they haven't actually been engaged in each others lives and she wants to know if he's expecting more which is why she laughed at his non-committal 'maybe'.
This is basically going to end with MJ back as the friend/confidante from the 80's as the new status quo as the series gets relaunched into yet another 'Back to Basics' approach for like the 5th time.
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>>152647453
MJ is going to die or be written off and the Gwen and harry will both be back of that you can be sure.

"nobody is ever truly gone"
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>>152647493
Nope, Harry and Gwen aren't coming back. It's time for you to face facts.
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>>152647440
>Just spouts canned line
THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY
Ok now you'll say it is certain. Then you'll call her marywhore. Then you'll say you're not a pedophile, then you'll say X-Men is better. /thread
Anyway, how is the black cock treating you these days?
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>>152647504
Yes they wlil the dead never stay dead.
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>>152647326
>Am I going to have a mental breakdown over it? No
youre having one in this thread, retard lol. you're such a disgusting polish predator.
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>>152647523
Nope, it's over and she's dead forever like Mar-Vell, you lost.
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>>152647493
>>152647504
>>152647515
>>152647523
Samefag.
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>>152647515
I am a white man also this is not a racist thread moron keep this up and the jannies will deal with and this is no joke.
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>>152647451
BC is an even Bigger Slut, you fucking Cuck.
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>>152647535
Mar-Vell will be back someday also,
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>>152647536
>All different people.
>Samefag.
?
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>>152647550
>He actually believes this.
No, anon, he's not coming back and neither is Gwen.
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>>152645776
>my exes have gotten together!
>this is every man's worst nightmare(?)
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>>152647579
They will both be back.
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>>152647614
Nope, they aren't coming back. Also, why are you suddenly using capitals? Was that other anon correct? Has Gwenschizo actually been the Gwenschizoschizo the entire time?!
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>>152647579
Come to think of it you just me a idea how do you feel about Mar-Vell bangin MJ I think I will pass the idea to to editoral.
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>>152647641
>Gwenschizo is still pretending that he has connections to editorial.
Sad!
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>>152627102
NOW SHE'S DROOLING OVER GAMBIT COURTESY OF TOM KING AND JIM LEE!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
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>another spiderman thread where it devolves into this one guy responding to himself like its more than one person
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>>152647646
Oh how do you know for a fact I don't if I were you I be more careful you coud be in for a suprise.
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>>152647676
No idea why mods don't do something about it. It's his M.O. in nearly every Spidey thread.
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>>152647679
You keep saying that and yet nothing ever happens. It's obvious you are lying and also obese.
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>>152646584
>>152646681
You are a brown self-inserter. MJ rejecting Peter’s first proposal or dating Flash the first time already should make him an irrevocable cuck in your shit colored eyes, so just stop posting here and acting like you care about anything besides outrage posting. You are not Spider-Man, what you personally would not tolerate is irrelevant.
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>>152647672
Anon, its tom king. And its gonna be the same as his catwoman/lois story
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>>152647538
Way to announce a report, dumbass.
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>>152647676
The pole's been banned a few times but he always comes abck.
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>>152647706
Also she's not drooling. Im sure it'll lean on a comment like "nice butt" but its not on that level and its tom king, the guy that had superman you know
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>abck
can you post a screenshot proving you aren’t him?
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>>152647679
I’m going to make a new thread after this one ends, drink lots and lots of coffee another late night in the office it’s going to be a long three months.
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>>152647771
we already know you're making a thread after this one hits bump limit, gwenschizo. you literally spend every thread talking to yourself and denying that you are
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>>152647753
That pedophile uses VPN and ban evades.
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>>152647751
>sister's doin' it for themselves
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>>152647751
Peter is about to cheat on her with Carnage anyway. And that’s super incest, Carnage is basically his grandson
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>>152647779
>if I harass everyone but the actual Gwenschizo, it’ll make Gwenschizo go away
>this is so *genius!* I’m just like Machiavelli! *swirls around a glass of red wine and takes a puff of my asthma inhaler.*
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>>152647695
Flash and MJ barely fucking "dated" and were just hanging out, "She even tells Peter to call her in front Flash." this was before they were serious/married. Rejecting a marriage proposal isn't the same as cucking, nothing written suggested that it would be. The propsal was meant to make MJ look bad, so Wolfman could get her out of the book and insert Black Cat.

Caring about a story and characters is not self insertion. fuck you for shitty comment.
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>>152647587
It’s a pretext for a threesome!
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Farewell, Ultimate Otto.
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>>152647818
>Rejecting a marriage proposal isn't the same as cucking, nothing written suggested that it would be.
Not only that but it's shown she was genuinely torn up about the whole thing.
He was already dating Felicia at the time.He realized it wasn't going to work out long term.
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>>152647858
yes that is from spectacular, the ASM version is awful. and still used to this day by MJ haters.
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Farewell, Ultimate Black Cat.
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>>152647782
Shouldnt they do it?
>>152647768
I typed fast, but sure. I dunno why i would be the pole and criticize him, he's unable to ever do so.
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>>152644087
Somebody leak the issue! thank you in advance.
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>>152648176
THis isn't transformers anon
that one was heavily waited
Elita will be raped as gwen under norman
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Farewell, Trashbag.
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polish peodphiles dicksuck 4chan moderation staff
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>>152648224
this series was too boring for me, what exactly is the new Mysterio? I know it’s a gestalt entity holding all the Mysterio members, but what’s their body physically made of? Why was brain-uploading even something the Mysterios could do?
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>>152648281
why don’t you switch gears and call him a dogfucker or something
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>>152647376
Is that the same Priest who said the marriage would be a creative road block?
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>>152648292
None of this is important. It's magic, they don't have to explain it.
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polish pedos enjoy fucking pigs & shitting up a uruguayan spider-man forum
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>>152628412
Paul's entire existence needs to be retconned as a fictional entity that never existed
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>>152647376
>>152648392
Priest made up his own character who had strong feelings about the way comics ought to be, Prime makes sense.
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>>152648415
i don’t see you tards complaining about Pedro or Bobby Carr
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>>152648428
>Priest got filtered by the Johns run of Green Lantern.
It's not that monumental of a task to keep track of.
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>>152648491
Those characters did in fact vanish into the ether and were never mentioned again.
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>>152648526
His particular issue is that there should only be one version of any given hero and it should be "the original" (and of course Alan Scott and Jay Garrick don't count because they were gone before he was alive and reading comics). Hal Jordan s GL, no one else. Dick Grayson as Robin, no Jason, Tim, or Damian. Peter Parker as Spider-Man, no Miles.
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>>152648526
carol sexo
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>>152648491
Bobby Carr was right after OMD and a shitty move by Marvel, Pedro was later and also a shitty move. PAUL came after the Spencer run and was Egregious for how it broke them up and used to sustain the misery experienced. He was also a shitty nothing character attempting to pass for a genuine life development for MJ. OMD was not a divorce and she didnt leave Peter for Paul, she was stuck in bullshit situation written by terrible creatives.
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>>152648647
I appreciate Paul because he’s sabotaged and poisoned the well on pretty much any non Peter love interest MJ could ever have.
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>>152648647
they got together to raise some kids and only because the passage of time was fucked, without those things they immediately break up because they aren’t compatible. That’s as good as you’re going to get
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>>152648555
Miles does suck desu
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>>152648765
Yes, and also any non MJ love interest Peter has as well.
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>>152648597
Now I'm jumping at false positives. Damn you.
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>>152648647
>Bobby Carr was right after OMD and a shitty move by Marvel,
>Spiraling actress realizes she's just being used and her problem is that she's a narcissistic bitch that gave up the best thing that ever happened to her because she let a chance at fame and fortune go to her head and treated her partner like shit because of it
Bobby Carr was good actually if even for just this moment.
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>>152648816
I still want them to give Silk a second chance
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>>152648834
Silk's got too much of that fetish stink about the relationship. Still not sure how Slott managed to sneak that one by editorial:
>yes Peter gets with a hot korean chick who is basically his soul mate and also anytime they smell each other they got into heat and have to fuck because I read Dragonriders of Pern when I was an impressionable lad
Silly shit
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>>152649104
Yeah, but they stopped writing the pheromone sex thing. She spent most of his career as spider-man in a bunker watching tapes of him in action, Peter knew the guy who locked her up, and she lost her parents because of it, I think there’s enough there for an interesting relationship.
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>>152649150
Nothing introduced by the BND crew has stuck. Its Black Cat or Mary Jane and they have spent the last 125 issue glazing Black Cat and draggin MJ. So you will probably be getting on and off BC in the future.
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>>152649260
>and they have spent the last 125 issue glazing Black Cat and draggin MJ.
Felicia gets treated like shit as well and even calls Peter out for it but you see them have sex a few times and think things are fine.
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>>152649260
Silk is still around though, and they just referenced her connection to Peter when the spider-family fought Norman
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>>152647451
Yes. Your time WAS, but no longer.
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>>152647804
>so mad that you start posting greentext roleplaying responses
ok lol keep replying to yourself its really cool
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>>152648826
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>>152650160
stop replying to yourself faggot.
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>>152649260
>So you will probably be getting on and off BC in the future.
We're getting nothing but lesbian BC and variant covers.
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>>152648833
Post OMD MJ didnt learn shit from this and continued treating Peter like shit. But yes Peter Parker will always be the best thing that did and everwill happen to her. why is there noone in the book that is abe to speak to her like this.
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>>152627102
Can we PLEASE be finally done with VenoMJ in drag. Who the fuck likes this version of Venom, even the jaw just looks dumb. If they absolutely have to use Mary Jane as the host at least make her look like an actual woman ffs
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>>152651445
Does Brian know her? It would be nice if Peter had a friend that would have his back and talk shit to MJ. And not try to hit on her before actually know what his deal is.
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>>152634413
616 Peter already has 2 Michelle love interests
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>>152652038
>Latina Michelle returns to ASM after a 14 year absence with no fanfare
Weirdest part of the Wells run. And her brother was in 900 for some reason.
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https://bleedingcool.com/comics/jim-lee-draws-gambit-lois-lane-and-mary-jane-in-superman-spider-man/
Jim Lee is all happy that he is drawing Mary Jane Watson-Parker and the X-Men after 35 years.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mutie and league comic crossover is coming later this year
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>>152627102
does anyone have the Gomez sketch of Carnage attacking, possibly Flash?
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>>152652105
Wait, she did? Man, I barely remember the thing now.
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>>152652399
yeah, Tombstone hires her as a backup lawyer and she gets him acquitted. Shes in like a single page. Really weird choice for a lawyer considering the target demographic of kids have no idea who she is
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>>152652466
That's not Michele Gonzalez, that's Michele Le, who looks identical to Gonzalez depending on the artist and who also is a lawyer.
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So when Torment get revealed to be just some guy, will there be someone saying "Should have been Karla" to every image of him?
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>>152651533
>actual woman ffs
Well they're kinda....doing it. I mean it's an improvement but yeah, ANV and the gold is a massively shit design, the symbol lacks any oomph, MJ's hair sticking out does not work for She-Venom (they should've just made it black, like made from the symbiote, or no hair), and there is no cleavage. Heels I don't really like either. MJ would wear them for modelling but I see her as more of a fashionable boots gal, especially when superheroing (conceivably the heels wouldn't matter as they are goo and and can stick easily but eh...boots are also more combat and Venom-esque).
Oh and yeah, I'm still not buying it even if She-VenoMJ is one of my favorite concepts. Marvel deserves 0 cents because they make 0 sense and also 0 cents.
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>>152652128
I bet it must be bittersweet to draw Gambit. He was losing out on a lot of X-Men money because of Marvel. Frankly even though the Image guys get a lot of flack for the whole industry bubble and swallowing up other indies for creating a style that overtook anything else, at least they got the fuck out of Marvel.
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>>152647451
>AU where Peter is married to Felicia and MJ with Flash.
>Wilson said stuff from BC would be relevant to Death Spiral.
The meltdown will be glorious.
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>>152652652
Should've been Paul
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>>152652105
Nah it wasn't mexican Michele unfortunately, it was a new character he created who happened to have the same job.
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>>152652882
Nobody gives a fuck. Meltdown threads are all performative anyway, just shit for redditors to screenshot and post for gold or twitter tourists to post that then get regurgitated here, or /v/ at least.
Spider-Man is dead and buried. Why would anyone be mad? We all expect the worst.
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>>152628261
proof?
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>>152647451
Absolutely beautiful.
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Death Spiral spoiler
Kelly couldn't help himself
[SPOILER] Spider-Man and Venom have sex[/SPOILER]
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>>152655059
he already did when venom was bonded to him, this time is venom Making sure that he will save mary jane by giving her a copy of all of peter's powers, so spider woman is born.
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>>152655122
We're getting a new offspring
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>>152655149
Nah, is Mystery of the Spider-Woman since Jessica Drew is getting the fridge treatment til... BENDIS COMES BACK...
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>>152647672
gambit's most recent mainstream contribution is being cucked by a holocaust survivor
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>>152652882
Could be fun
>Negative Zone spits thing out into a different universe
>Felicia and Peter get an AU where they're a happy anti-hero couple and he still does the science thing on the side
>Likely public identities since Felicia is public
>MJ still has her spiraling career while in an emotionally distant relationship with Flash as they both settling and not with the people they actually loved
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>>152655210
Felicia becomes a goth girl. The Peter relationship is blink and you miss it panel
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>>152655216
Yeah that tracks.
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>>152655216
Felicia goth won't cut it unless they make Peter emo and they're still an item
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>>152655417
From the panels leaked. He doesn't appear.. she with a woman still
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>>152655207
They really fucked over him and rogue.
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>>152656195
Aren't they happily married and have hints of breaking up? Brevroot is too scared and too much of a bitch to let it happen anyways. He's just a chicken
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>>152656282
I don't know. X-Men are just barely beginning to enter their BND era, whereas Spider-Man is hopefully beginning to leave it.
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>>152656288
>whereas Spider-Man is hopefully beginning to leave it.
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>>152656300
Peter gets to have sex with MJ again?
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>>152656330
Sex is allowed. Being married or having long-term relationships in general is banned.
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>>152656354
Then what happens in ASM 23 then?
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>>152656330
As the other anon said, anything is fine as long as they're not in a stable long-term relationship. BND writers love Peter being a harem protagonist to vicariously live through him.
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>>152655428
Where did it leak?
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>>152656330
Are you stupid? Nobody wants him with that whore anon, besides he's with Raelith now.
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>>152656889
Kelly said the Raelith relationship is dead
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>>152652038
I actually like the idea of Michelle Jones being MJs Half Sister.
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>>152657289
Ah yes more literally who relatives...exactly ones we need right now and ones who look like celebrities instead of just independently created characters (yes I know Kitty is is just Sigourney, but she morphed eventually). Especially ones like Zendaya who would look even more awful under the shitty Marvel interior art we get nowadays.
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>>152657289
Question would be her age.
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>>152656889
Raelith is already over, per Kelly. She's Space Shay.
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> #1000 is just about Saving Peter from Spider-Carnage
L O L
they really did the 6th iteration of The Spider Who Gobbles in 3yrs
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>>152658012
I don’t know, sounds kino to me. Hopefully most of it is inside their shared mind
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>>152652105
She should come back and reveal that she actually got pregnant after they hooked up in #600 and then #1000 is all about Peter having to pay child support.
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>>152655216
>>152655428
What leak? where did they leak?
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>>152658396
kino?
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>>152642094
I've got your back, brother.
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>>152658396
this would never happen to miles
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>>152658462
only because he’s gay
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>>152658397
Leaks! WHERE?
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>>152627102
My dog is torment
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>>152627102
Death Spiral is gong to be one big nothing big nothing burger. We are getting a conversation that should have happened years ago, that is it.
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>>152659068
>I just want to be friends...
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>>152659086
This is right before the kiss of panel
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>>152658028
Why are faggots like you always baiting and sticking your shit, unbacked/unsupported opinions into these threads?
Why the fuck do we need a gorillion of the same ideas wasted on centennial issues with no soul behind them? Like even the faggots who just want silver age slop that has 0% of the charm the original silver age don't even want symbiote slop put in.
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>>152659094
it doesn't happen they end up having another i know this for a fact since I have seen the leaks for it now bug off
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>>152659130
fuck off
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>>152659136
Post pics or GTFO. You're literally worthless and taking up space in this thread for just posting shit like this and expecting us to trust you. So yeah you're worthless.
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>>152659136
What issue are you talking about?
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>>152659145
Make me faggot. Otherwise, you're impotent and toothless.
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>>152659146
You forget the magic word so no and it's time this thread ended.
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>>152659151
That's my secret anon sorry but mom's the word
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>>152659173
You have no idea.. but at least Gwen is having sex with Black Tarantula
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>>152659155
thread is almost over and good thing too,
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>>152659183
Gwen is dead and soon this thread will be also.
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a true hero to be proud of unlike spideer-man
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>>152659207
Yep.
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>>152659112
Your doom spider-rman fans for good.
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>>152627120
No shit sherlock.
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>>152659130
They haven’t done Spider-Carnage since the 90s, it was Ben instead of Peter, and the Carnage symbiote is a much different character now.
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>>152659245
Nobody cares anymore everyone is sick of symbiote bug off.
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>>152659274
>>152659284
>>152659293
We will never undo OMD and we do mean NEVER
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>>152659136
GIVE US THE LEAKS AND POST PROOF YOU ARE NOT A PEDOPHILE
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>>152659305
just shut up and report him
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>Thread is back to the one weirdo and his larpers
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I wish one of the new What If one-shots had been "What If Ben Reilly remained bonded to Carnage?"
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cheer uo now you will always have this as canon.
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>>152659185
>>152659160
just wait a little bit to talk about spider-man, it's almost midnight in that shithole you call poland
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>>152659305
Again you did not say the magic word so the answer is no.
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>>152659321
>Non-canon slop.
I want 90's Spider-Carnage.
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>>152659333
Poland is not a shithole at any rate that talk is off-topic here
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>>152659320
Him murdering all the 90s villains and getting into a fight with Venom would be cool but I feel like there’s a high likelihood they would write Knull into the story
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>>152659343
>polish poophole produces pedophiles
say that fast seven times
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Is it even possible to retcon Klyntar/Knull shit? I know you could retcon MJ-Paul by making her some AU-version of MJ, while the real MJ is still stuck somewhere...
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>>152659353
no it would not.
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>>152659335
>>152659354
Okay now post Gwen’s black boyfriend kissing her in front of Peter
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>>152659353
I mean...yeah, they could but he probably wouldn't show up until the very end where The Watcher is gazing into the bleak future of this timeline.
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>>152659335
Can you please release the leaks requested?
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>>152659379
*A future where Mayday fights to save Earth from the symbiote horde alongside The Last Avengers.
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>>152659360
They could change his origins, but Ewing basically already shat on them by pointing out Oblivion is the top dog. And the Celestials unquestionably did fight him at the dawn of creation. I like the version from the spider-man cartoon where Knull only made 4 symbiotes then tore them off and fucked back off into the ether
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>>152659373
what it does matter it happened before she knew peter also I take it you have heard right they plan to revel that her black boyfriend was in fact mysterio in disguise and Gwen was just a pawn in a game of his own desgin.
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This thread sucks
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>>152659384
Too late or that now thread is just about over.
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>>152659354
None of these panels are real. They were in a hellscape, there wouldn't be this much green.

This is all in peters imagination.
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>>152659303
Your mother? Sodomized on several am radio stations. Sodomized by who? You.
>>152659360
It will be possible once everything related to disassembled is undone and this whole era is behind us.
>>152659424
Guess why...a certain schizo.
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>>152659424
bump limit thread is over.
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J<jeevacation@gmail.com> to GWENSCHIZO <> very uninteresting place ... poland... Paul is a cool guy. you have lots to teach me !
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>>152659441
Knull was in a feature film millions of people saw, they are never retconning him out entirely
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>>152659449
Your asshole virginity? Over. Taken by your master, Brevoort.
Also inb4 thread 404's, Gwenschizo enjoys eating shit. I've seen him....ecccch...yuck.
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>>152659433
>This is all in peters imagination.
You wish lol.
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>>152659432
Okay, I'll make a new thread.
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>>152659457
Nobody cares because it's sony. And guess who is connected to Sony as exposed by Michael Jackson, another famous MJ? Jews. And as evidenced by >>152659449 you know them...
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>>152659478
Whoops I meant to reply to >>152659456
Oh well.
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>>152659465
tommorw is sunday and nothing ever happens then so have fun talking to yourself alone
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>>152659484
that's from my shelf leave it alone and show some respect now.
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polish pedophiles putting pederasty on pause
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>>152659484
>>152659489
NEW THREAD HERE: >>152659510

FEEL FREE TO POST ALL THE LEAKS THERE GWENSCHIZO WE ARE WAITING.
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>>152659068
>retards here still don't understand he doesn't know shit and just wants clicks
LMAO

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