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>Don't talk to me or your son ever again
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And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
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I feel like, as stupid as it is, it has to be their extended, estranged family, cause otherwise what even is it about? Just their name? The entire conceit of the issue is the idea of their strands and connections being torn apart, that this guy is circling in on Eddie and Peter, closer and closer.
If they're just randos who happen to have the same name, why suddenly go after MJ? If there's no actual connection, why all the faffing about on that topic?
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>>152618610
Peter got a call about his second cousin twice removed dying>>152618448
, and Eddie’s first cousin was killed.
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No, it’s their family. Carl Brock is Eddie’s father and Carl’s brother and nephew are mentioned as Torment’s victims.
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>>152618451
Wait, did Eddie find out in New Avengers or something? I choose not to read that since it felt incredibly contrived that Brock-Carnage would be on a team, and just the thought of it was giving me PTSD flashbacks to when Bendis shot Flash into space. I thought Carnage finding out Pete's identity was supposed to be his secret bit of leverage he got by slowly carving into the center of Brock's psyche
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Oh, well shit, I guess Marvel is just killing off all of Peter, Eddie and now MJ's family for...um, shock value?
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>>152618674
It reminds me of the time Claremont massacred all of Jean Grey’s extended family, which was derided as over the top and tacky 20 years ago. And Torment supposedly has history with Spider-Man. The only good thing from this is that Dylan might see Carl again, and acknowledge how he used to beat his ass
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Does anyone remember kindred from Spencer's run? Torment feels like Kelly's version of this.
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>>152618716
Yep, but without the BND hint so we’re left completely clueless who this dumb schizo is.
>That bombshell sends Peter, Mary Jane, and Eddie Brock straight into the sights of Torment, a terrifying new serial-killer supervillain whose connection to Spider-Man is both deeply personal and dangerously intimate.
It’s not going to be Ben, is it? Are there any pre-OMD candidates who Carnage may have reawoken memories in? Maybe Chameleon?
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>>152618716
I mean yeah, that wasn't long ago at all. I think the problem/difference is that they established very early on that Kindred knew exactly who Peter was, so people clocked it as having something to do with Mephisto or potentially Harry right off the bat, so Spencer obviously had to swerve into the bullshit that it was eventually revealed to be.
With Torment, who can it even be that knows Spider-Man personally but have little clue who Mary Jane is
Or maybe they're just surprised that MJ is tied up with Eddie and Peter at the same time
Maybe they're bringing Gwen back for a third time, and only the second time that she/a clone of her is murderous.
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>>152618806
Torment was previously only massacring the Brock and Parker/Reilly lineages, though. MJ isn’t related to them, and Peter’s boned plenty of other women. But now that he knows she’s Venom, her and her line are a target. I think
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>>152618506
Should've been Carol
>>152618777
It's very clearly Muse if you've read Carnage
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>>152618445
This art looks like Steve Dillion rose form his grave to draw ASM
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>>152618777
>It’s not going to be Ben, is it?
I don't think they're retarded enough to launch straight into attempt number 4. Besides, it wouldn't make any sense with the end of the issue.
I bet it's gonna be something retarded like Lance Bannon back from the grave
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So just a bunch of random people died and the big shocking twist is that the Carnage symbiote is conspiring against Eddie/Peter/MJ by siccing a random mother fucking super powered serial killer onto them to do it's dirty work for it?
Christ on a cracker, this is retarded as fuck. Why not just have Carnage split from Eddie and merge with Madam Masque? Masque making good on her threat to kill everyone MJ loves and being She-Carnage would be better than this and at least give Marvel a new toyetic character for merchandise (She-Carnage) and let them free Eddie up to become Venom again.
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>>152618958
Both of those stalkers are dead and >>152618973 died from his mutant powers after he revealed himself as having kidnapped MJ
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>>152619390
You say that as if death means anything in Marvel
>>152619384
IIRC while he never showed his face the person wearing the armor had an inflated ego and spoke like Jonah which is about where the similarities end so Anon thinks it was him
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>>152618445
Im kind of digging peter and astrid.
I bet she would step on him.
>>152618476
Even dylan thinks MJ is a slut.
Does peter still have his space suit? Can he make it look like is on suit?
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>>152619384
Terry Kavanaugh was one of the writers who believed JJJ was pure evil/should never be portrayed as a good guy with a blind spot in the form of his hatred for Spidey.
When the preliminary work got started on the Clone Saga (which would mean that the Daily Bugle would be sidelined indefinately ala JMS exiling JJJ and the Bugle from the book during his run), Kavanaugh decided to be a cunt and wrote a story where JJJ would kill Lance Bannon while wearing a new armor suit and get unmasked/sent to jail to permanently write him out of the title.
Sadly, the other writers and editorial found out what Kavanaugh was scheming and forced him to end the FACADE storyline with the villain escaping and their identity unknown, because JJJ was going to still be used in the Clone Saga via him paying for Peter's defense lawyers when Peter got arrested for a murder Kaine committed during the exact same period Peter was buried alive by Kraven.
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There's a like a billion random characters with connections to Peter you could randomly make a villain. I feel like the better question is why this guy is also going after Brocks. Eddie doesn't really have a giant pool of supporting cast guys to pull from.
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>>152619316
self-referential Paul hate does numbers on social media. It’s also probably not worth the effort to do introductions, Paul is just a guy, and not liable to offer more than that to Eddie, and Eddie’s rap sheet is public record
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>>152618474
IT'S PAAAAAUUUUULIN' TIIIIIIIIIIME!
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Maybe it's because I just woke up, but this is the most stunted dialogue I've read from Kelly this far.
>>152618442
>Whenever Brian is not on panel, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Brian?"
>>152618632
>villain has an anti-cousin agenda
JILL STACY, NO!
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>>152618411
They could have had so much more fun with Ben taking over peters life. They could have had him punch black cat again. Or he holds her down and spanks her. Then he calls Miles a Nog and blames it on his taurettes. I feel like ben and loki should hang out.
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>>152618489
This whole MJ and Flash thing is pure cancer, unless future writers ignore it completely we'll start having some weird tension between them exchanging "maybe" glances whenever they're together, what a fucking shitshow.
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>>152619835
That powerset belongs to Miguel.
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>>152618434
Yeah im starting to think the only reason comics don't sell as much as manga is because comics look like dogshit
The only reason, all those other theories about comics being too woke are bullshit
Its the garbage art
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>>152618777
JACK IS BACK BABY
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>>152619859
I mean it seems like flash is saying he doesn't want to ruin the friendship and MJ is saying she's not interested in anyone right now. It also seems like she initiated the convo because she wants it settled. But why make it an issue, It's clear editorial is trolling everyone with cheapo soap drama bullshit. But, who knows what the future holds with these jokers.
What this event will do is setup a new status quo for Peter and MJ. Thats pretty much it.
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So Flash is going to 1v1 Torment while Peter, MJ and Eddie can’t take him down 3v1? Unless Carnage is able to sabotage their efforts it will be bullshit.
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We have the solicits, 258 is where Peter and MJ have their "heartfelt" talk, I'm expecting them to just properly end things as good friends and Peter promising to help her with Venom.
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>>152618489
This feels like they wanted to put a nail in this, but it’s not well written and it makes Flash look terrible. Why are you hitting on Peters ex? This is not endearing me to Flash at all, I dont care what kind of redemption arc he has had. If anything it’s a regression for him.
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>>152619940
because DC was selling a lot as Image
Marvel was doing great on gaming and tv shows
Til the bitch head of FOX animation department wanted to fuck everything up behind Avi Arad's back and all was cancelled.
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>>152620543
Flash shouldn't be going after MJ, period. Not in pic Rel or the “maybe box”. It doesn't matter what she says, "Friends" don't do that. Peter was well within his rights to beat the shit out of Flash here. This is why the Flash/MJ thing is so stupid, it is meant to promote antagonism and regresses all the characters involved and another example or Lowe and co treating MJ like a whore.
The “Maybe Box” thing is 100% sneaky Beta Male stuff. What a fucking Faggot. Another reason to never spend money on Marvel slop.
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What if Pete put his penis inside Astrid.
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spiral covers:
not posting the duplicate ones.
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Dave Rapoza Spider-Man Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Iban Coello Connecting Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 McFarlane Toys Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Skan Srisuwan Venom Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Stonehouse Carnage Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 1:25 Dave Rapoza Spider-Man Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 1:50 Stonehouse Carnage Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 1:100 Skan Srisuwan Venom Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 616 Comics / Comic Traders / Comics Elite Tyler Kirkham Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 616 Comics / Comic Traders / Comics Elite Tyler Kirkham Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 616 Comics / Comic Traders / Comics Elite Tyler Kirkham Yellow Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles / Comic Inspiration MegaCon 2026 Mico Suayan Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles / Comic Inspiration MegaCon 2026 Mico Suayan Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles Junggeun Yoon Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles Junggeun Yoon Virgin Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles Lucio Parrillo Variant
Amazing Spider-Man / Venom: Death Spiral #1 Big Time Collectibles Lucio Parrillo Virgin Variant
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todd mcfarlne toys one.
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Man i try not to be a negative cunt since theres far too many on /co/ already but those last two pages killed my interest. The random deaths made it feel like some high strangeness shit was going to go down and i've always enjoyed when spiderman takes brief jaunts into that kind of thing.
But carnage texting his bff serial killer is the reveal? thats super lame and i just dont care about more of this if its just "carnage texted a guy to kill someone and its going to lead into a bunch of fights based on misunderstandings like some 1970's book nobody remembers where misunderstandings were the reason behind 80% of fights. What a let down.
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GET FUCKED MJ
GET FUCKED EDDIE
GET FUCKED PETER
GET FUCKED DYLAN
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>>152621230
fuck this thread and you for making it.
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>>152618489
We all know this is where things are headed. They should begin already instead of dancing around the point for one more year.
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>>152618489
she is going to fuck flash for sure they should kill off MJ not a shitpost
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>>152621148
Mary jane, i recognize those massive perky tits everywhere.
>>152621338
Neck yourself faggot.
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I don't think MJ knows that Flash knows.
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>>152621438
this is how porn artists draw women these days
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Saez’ art is fucking hideous
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>>152621372
Yeah and Gwen didn't know Peter was Spider-Man until she died. It's a variant so that doesn't matter. Neither would it being a prototype costume. Bermejo is probably going to draw all his awful uneven webbing over it later. At least he draws people ok I guess.
>>152620746
Todd needs to just leave these fuckers to rot.
>>152618830
Spencer didn't swerve. Marvel forced him to swerve and then he ragequit the book.
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>Instead of PaulxMJ it’s PaulxDylan
Paul you sick fuck, Dylan is 12!
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just kiss already
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>>152621677
She dated around. So did Peter.
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>>152618411
While the most interesting thing about the book should be Eddie, technically it is, I find it amusing that what is actually the most engaging aspect is Mary Jane. She laughs in the guy's face after he a makes a tepid attempt to say he maybe, might be interested. This whole event is about giving Peter and MJ a shared adventure so they can NOT get together after. They have already revealed carnage is the mastermind and torment is a goon, so baring any late game twist I'll bet Ricardo and some other red shirt bits the dust . Not much going on her.
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>>152622024
>This whole event is about giving Peter and MJ a shared adventure so they can NOT get together after.
This is what it feels like. Leveling the field to have them as just friends seems to be the running theme.
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>>152618494
how is paul planning so sway her back?
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She fucked logan also,.
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She fucked logan also
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It's afraid.
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Havent been here a bit, will miss USM, this was quite lame setup that only gives us two new things to chew one, kinda lame. But we'll see.
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The art here is pretty rough, and the writing just such an attempt at being memey this is kelly to the max.
>>152618442
Man so good to waste time for non charlie wiederman.
>>152618448
I dont love the setup, but its nice that peter hears MJ's messages the most after mays
But also it says a lot that peter doesnt even have much of a life to unravel.
>>152618484
So stupid source of drama aside, i do appreciate MJ defending peter. Ofc kelly will ignore this, but its nice to see.
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>>152618489
This seems like closing the door on it, which we know via gomez. But its done quite sloppliy and in a way where it clearly sets up either something happening here (betting on peter misundesrtanding it cause we need conflict and otherwise everything woudl be resolved in one convo) or its just sloppy trying to get new readers on it.
Also this seems like a bad comedy setup about mj and flash both knowing peter's spider-man but not knowing the other knows.
>>152618514
What a big reveal
>>152621281
Eh from what we know they arent lol
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>>152622080
Its 3 writers in one issue.
>>152622024
I think at most its an attempt to do a spider-island, so peter and mj get a shippy moment but isnt committed to at the end.
>>152618716
I think we all remembred him
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>>152618476
…Why the fuck is a grown-ass man going STAY AWAY FROM MY GIRL with Eddie Brock’s teenage son.
Forget Flash and MJ, something VERY wrong is going on between Paul and Dylan.
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>>152619364
It wasn't random people per say. The big death was Eddie Brock's asshole father, who was brought back a couple of years back when Dylan was introduced.
Also, the dead people are distant relatives of Aunt May on her family's side and other members of Eddie's family.
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>>152622545
They have done the Flash and MJ "we are just friends’ scene like four or five times at this point. They are clearly attempting to keep the idea of the ship up in the air regardless of what the characters are saying right now and it will play a role down the line. I'm not saying anything will happen one way or another, but it is a turn off and extremely tiresome.
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Very cute
>>152622830
They're not setting it up. They're shooting it down as a precursor to MJ shooting down the reader's hopes of getting back with Peter.
It's a consistent theme of her saying that she just came away from one awful relationship and isn't looking for another.
Death Spiral will end as them walking away as just friends and losing the tension of awkward hangouts.
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>>152622889
You both lost, Paul is father of the year, Eddie is a jobless bum.
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>>152623343
>brown retarded zoomer with no friends, let alone girlfriend, acting like his opinion on anything matters
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Well, time to pack it up
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>>152623788
Ok how can something already be happening?
Is Gomez getting word that the rest of this arc will suck because he found out a plot detail, the sales are already not good, or is he getting canned because of his scandal not too long ago?
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much better.
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the fans want MJ to die
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>>152624839
You well as i know she did nothing her having a back boyfriend means nothing for several reason first it happened before she knew peter second they were shown to have sex with each other and third they can also revel that her black boyfriend was not he appeared to be let's just say he was mysterio in disguse works for me.
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>>152624857
No he did not it they were never shown to have sex with each other you have no proof so you lose
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Meanwhile...in the one, true canon of 6160!
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>>152624908
>It’s wrong for Gwen to have sex with a black person but it’s good if she had sex with a white man disguised as a black person.
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>>152624857
I am truly sick of you assholes get it through you thick stupis skulls gwen did nothing wrong. In the MJ ended being the cheater NOT her.
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>>152624948
She did not have sex with a black person
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>>152624959
Why are you angry about Gwen having sex with a black man, but happy about having sex with a white man pretending to be a black man? Why do you hate black people?
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>>152624975
No it was total shit.
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>>152624993
They did not have sex with each other there is zero proof of that.
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>>152624975
Making some random dipshit commit bloodline cleansing would be weird even for a Venom story. Peak hack Cates was better than this, all Carnage did there was disturb Annie’s grave, which was infinitely more effective at screwing with Eddie and Dylan. Not only that, but he trimmed the Brock family tree down by retconning Eddie’s sister and uncle. There being this fucking many is just moronic
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>>152625001
But she didn't and even if she did why should anybody it happened before she knew peter.
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>>152625033
give it up asshole they did not have sex with each other,
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>>152622830
Yeah but its ending this with no and mj laughing at the idea. And this is only the third.
I think its here to create tension with peter primarily, need a stupid conflict after all
>>152622953
I assume they'll do a spider-island esque moment too, but eyah that's the most likley ending
>>152624202
He gets the rest of the arc and the stuff after this, unless this ONLY happens outside of ANV its not happening.
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>>152625031
Fuck off.
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Now that it's over
What did we think of it?
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>>152625065
look buddy show me the page in which they did have sex or piss off. you can't post it since it never happened so you lose.
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Gwencucks, this is your legacy.
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>>152625085
Gwenschizo loved Norman Osborn until he found out he was black in friendly neighborhood then he turned on him. That’s also why the pedophile Gwenschizo was so angry that they turned Ultimate Felicia black. Gwenschizo also really hates Spider-Man for racial reasons too. When Gwenschizo sees a black person he wants to hurt them he wants to kill them he wants to rape them.
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Do you wanna know something I realy do hope Norman does Bang MJ for I wish to see you cry when it does happen and I have no doubt it will.
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>That whore Gwen would never save someone besides herself. I’m glad Norman killed her.
Gwen did no wrong and she should not have died.
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>>152625139
a white Norman Osborn honest anon,
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Very meh. Andrews' art is hit or miss for me, and this time it was a miss. Also, it straddled a weird continuity that I guess is canon (Shay appears), and makes relatively big things happen (Teresa Parker maybe not being Pete's sister, Mariko and Logan reuniting *again*), but I doubt enough people read this to have it stick.
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>>152625159
So you’re only angry about black men fucking white women. You’re a fucking racist.
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>>152621556
Paulin' Time never ends, baby. Paul Rabin is the future of the Marvel Universe. First character to sell one quadrillion copies.
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Now there goes a real hero unlike Spider-Man
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>>152625286
The unbelievers must be purged. Only those who worship Paul Rabin, the One Above All's favorite son, may remain.
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>>152624627
maryCUNT fits better
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What should have happened by now.
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>>152621418
I'm mainly just annoyed at how little has been done with Flash knowing. Peter and Flash have spoken maybe two or three times since he came back and one of them as ASM 900. A complete waste of one of the only friends Peter has left at this point
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posting these to piss off the MJ fans.
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>>152625568
I'm just trying to wrap my head around this because Marvel loves to spread this shit out over multiple books and expects us to buy/read all of them. So I guess they just fucking dump the title villain here out of nowhere and expect us to tag along until they explain how the fuck Eddie knows this guy
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>>152625694
No thanks.
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>>152625674
>This was awful. It's time to reboot Marvel an
unironically the fans think the only way to fix spider-man is to reboot everything I happen to agree with them
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>>152625832
Why are you posting these? You don’t give a shit about Spider-Man. The only comics you’ve read of him are 60 years out of date and you spend all your time talking about how bad he is and how the love of his life is a whore. Fuck off
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>>152625955
nope.
>>152625936
You know nothing you have no idea what influence I have if you knew who I really was then you be singing a different tune.
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>>152625978
>You know nothing you have no idea what influence I have if you knew who I really was then you be singing a different tune.
You assume I care or remotely believe you. But spin your tale, or don't, I'll wait
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>>152626104
>I prefer to hold my cards close to chest
That implies you have a plan or action that would effect me or anyone here. You clearly don't. Why even lie? You're not believed, you're not scaring anyone, and you're not impressing anybody. It basically comes off as "my dad works at nintendo" but you don't even commit that far because you didn't even have a base script. So I ask what the point even is
What am I supposed to take away from this comment? You tell me
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>>152626169
>She’s a bitch. She’s easily influenced by the media into believing that Spider-Man is bad. She’s nagging and annoying. You haven’t read a single one of her comics
Do you have any idea why Gwen will be appearing in the Spider-Man: Brand New Day movie? simple really by doing so they make it easier to establish her as a character. Thus it gets real easy for them to get rid of MJ in the 616 comics and pave the way the return of 616 Gwen the rumors are true she will be in the movie.
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>>152626273
>Parcel
So you want to somehow sue everyone in this thread that calls you out for being dumb? Or wait, I hope you're not implying that you are mailing something physically harmful. Because yeah that's a big no no.
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>>152626350
Which you refuse to elaborate on. So if you're not suing or threatening physical harm, you have nothing. Or what's more likely is that you got scared when you realized what you larp entailed and the repercussions, so now you're backpedaling.
At worst, you're just fishing for attention and trying to sage the thread faster. That's not a "gotcha" mind you, I don't really care. I just wanted to see what lies you would try to spin, and you can't even entertain us
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>>152626609
Not really. The late night threads are fine and very active, it’s only the Gwenschizo guy that’s a problem. He’s a pedophile and people think he’s weird and creepy. Sorry if you’re in Europe. You could just stay awake longer.
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>>152626915
New thread is here: >>152627102
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