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W.I.T.C.H., Arc 4: Trial of the Oracle, Part I Anonymous 04/10/26(Fri)11:14:03 No.153165889 [Reply]▶
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W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 1 Ch.1-4: >>152801440
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 2 Ch.5-8: >>152812511
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 3 Ch.9-12:>>152847140
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 4 Ch.13-15 + The Year Before(Special): >>152931791
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 5 Ch.16-18 + Elyon Special: >>152944259
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 6 Ch.19-22: >>152958077
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 7 Ch.23-24: >>152973188
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 8 Ch.25-28 + Dreams and Secrets(Special): >>152997792
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 9 Ch.29-31: >>153030611
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 10 Ch.32-33 + Cornelia and Caleb(Specials): >>153046806
W.I.T.C.H. storytime part 11 Ch.34-36 + 5inque(Special): 153071870
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>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/153071870
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Issue 37: The Dispute
Concept: Francesco Artibani and Teresa Radice
Script: Teresa Radice
Art: Paolo Campinoti
Inks: Marina Baggio and Roberta Zanotta
Color and Light Direction: Francesco Legramandi
Seems Artibani did do some work on this together with Radice.
Radice is the new main plotter of the series going forward, and will stay in that role until the beginning of New Power, after which she'll do specials, one-pagers, and an occasional issue.
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Cover and Title Page;
Art by Anna Merli
Colors by Andrea Cagol
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The Congregation is in an uproar at the Oracle's proactive behavior.
Slight issue is that they were not supposed to know about the room with the memory spell in issue 32, but I guess since the Oracle hinted towards it in issue 36, he might have divulged that he did it since?
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This guy is basically the warden of Kandrakar's prison.
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Good old jealous Will.
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Pretty sure it is just called "Dispute" like the name of the issue, dunno why they went with challenge.
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Kinda weird that one option is for the Oracle to just declare himself not guilty of wrongdoing by the power vested in him.
Though I assume such a decision would weaken his credibility a lot further and lead to many more disputes.
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Motormouth Will.
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>The wind is speaking italian
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Enter Joel!
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Transformation time.
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And that's the end of issue 37.
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Issue 38: The Heart's Desire
Concept and Script: Paola Mulazzi
Art: Daniela Vetro
Inks: Santa Zangari and Riccardo Sisti
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Cover and Title Page:
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Hay Lin isn't so hyped about the idea of a Grandma Oracle anymore.
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Name and Occupation: Oracle.
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I get the impression this might have been intended as a kiss on the mouth at first, but they changed it for more clarity?
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The reason I think that is that he has in fact kissed her on the cheek before:
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152997792/#153001256
Of course, the writer may just have forgotten it or missed it, since it was written by someone else.
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The scanlation calls them "five little brats" instead of losers.
End of Issue 38. Next up, a Special.
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And now for the special: Boys' Planet
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Prina doesn't seem to have worked on many WITCH issues.
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Writer: Silvia Gianatti
Artist: Gianluca Paniello
Ganatti does write some one-pagers throughout the comics run, but only few main issues.
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Hay Lin should let her hair down more often.
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>SMASH
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End of the special. Going to take a break now...
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I like this page and the file size is good; however, in the transformation scene, the color seems somewhat oversaturated or too concentrated. I mention this because there are images on this page with a more balanced color. I don't know if you have a version of the same size but with a slightly more balanced values?
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I'm back, break ended up way longer than intended.
Issue 39: A Flutter of Wings
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Title Page
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Concept and Script: Bruno Enna
Art: Alessia Martusciello
Inks: Marina Baggio and Roberta Zanotta
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>Voyeur powers, activate!
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Just six or seven years.
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I was planning to do some specials called the W Zone next, but I don't have them properly organized. So instead, I'll try to get issue 40 done tonight as well.
Issue 40: The Last Secret
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Title Page:
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>a bunch of discontent old men, unsatisfied with their leader
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Concept and Script: Teresa Radice
Art: Claudio Sciarrone(Layout), Alberto Zanon(Pencils)
Inks: Santa Zangari and Riccardo Sisti
Color and Light Direction: Francesco Legramandi
It is the return of Alberto Zanon! His last issue didn't look great and I don't like his art in this one too much either, but I think his later offerings are mostly good!
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>The Grumpers found themselves dates
And that's the end of issue 40.
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>become oracle
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>Hmm now how do I choose new guardians?
>Oh yeah I got just the idea!
>hot girls fighting in the coliseum!
>I'd build my own Kandrakar with adult hot girls, fire decor, and hookers!
I know he's supposed to be evil but he's got some decent ideas...
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I like how it's vague if this sentinel dragon is related to Yan Lin or whether this dragon has actually been protecting the Lin family for countless generations with no Kandrakar involvement. Just another magic creature in this world.
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Yes. Erasing her from her family's lives was a terrible thing to witness, but Phobos' line about equating her experience to the astral drops is strangely reminiscent of Lewis who does something similar to Aravis in A Horse and His Boy.
Anons had a discussion on Martin and Tolkien, but a C.S. Lewis type would do well writing the girls.
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though Will could also be smaller than Cornelia based on the first issue where she complains she's a literal washboard. But that might just be teenage insecurities playing in
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It depends as much on the artist as on the model/reference and concepts of the characters..
Even in the "How to draw..." guides, they give som guidelines on what the physical figures of the characters look like.
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This whole sequence is a bit confusing. At first you think Orube allowed Pao Chai, AstralIrma and AstralWill to escape lied to the W.I.T.C.H but then it turns they escaped under her nose which isnt at all clear from the panel where the sec guard recognises her and she hides
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The intent was clearly in 35 that she let them escape.
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Why does the teacher hate her?
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Again, no one who had that sort of thing on them would want to keep them. Especially since what most people don't know is that you don't just get some braces on your teeth but also a goddamn screw behind them, right inside your mouth, that you're supposed to turn to "tighten" the braces gradually to fix your teeth growing badly. That fucking screw is a nightmare, feels awkward, traps food inside. It sucks all around.
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So Basiliade is inhabited by humans, not just Orube and Luba's kind.
I'm guessing this a situation where ancient humans travelled and settled there just like Escanor and his army settled in Meridian and became ancestors to all the humans there.
Orube doesnt have a concept of money or jobs, and all children are given up by their parents at a young age to be raised by temples, so does Basiliade have some totalitarian utopia thing going on? At the same time Endarno talks about trades >>153166497 so Basiliade does have jobs and money.Maybe "Endarno" is just assuming Basiliade is like Meridian with people having trades and doesnt know that they dont have money. But if that's case why didnt W.I.T.C.H or the Congregation notice the obvious tell?
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>So Basiliade is inhabited by humans, not just Orube and Luba's kind.
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I always used to think this character was a visual homage to Azula, but the timeframe doesn't match up.
This character was in a comic from September 2004, which predates ATLA except for the pilot.
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After a rough start Orube fits in fast and becomes a wise older sister type to the girls. I think they badly needed someone more mature who they could lean on that's not distant like Oracle and nearby unlike Yan Lin.
Also in general she's hot, cat, moe.
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Because he's not her type, as painful as that sounds, but it happens in the teenage trates.
And trying to be impartial, he's way too over-enthusiastic with her to the point of being annoyingbut despite that, she doesn't hate him, and that will become clear when someone from outside arrives.
Neither of them are bad people neither one want the worst thing for both, but it's true that her standards are somewhat 'special,' not to mention her strong characterand whoever is currently handling the writing/narrativethat sometimes slices her relationships.
The only thing I could say is whether their friendship can, besides strengthening and maturing them, which is not seen in any present medium but is the ideal, determines along the way what direction their closeness takes.
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Lewis would write it with some theological themes. Expect a lot of Christianity glazing.
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You mean Miranda?
She's not that similar visually, but same voice as Azula helped.
>Young Azula
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>Because he's not her type, as painful as that sounds, but it happens in the teenage trates.
>And trying to be impartial, he's way too over-enthusiastic with her to the point of being annoying but despite that, she doesn't hate him, and that will become clear when someone from outside arrives .
>Neither of them are bad people neither one want the worst thing for both, but it's true that her standards are somewhat 'special,' not to mention her strong character and whoever is currently handling the writing/narrative that sometimes slices her relationships.
>The only thing I could say is whether their friendship can, besides strengthening and maturing them, which is not seen in any present medium but is the ideal, determines along the way what direction their closeness takes.
Thank you so much for saying this. I have seen it all too common in the W.I.T.C.H. fandom community that when it comes to Irma and Martin a person will try to vilify one and put the other on a pedestal. Your take needed to be stated. Its almost like people forget these two are 13 years old.
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How exactly are they either vilifying or put on a pedestal when it comes to Irma and Martin?
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>How exactly are they either vilifying or put on a pedestal when it comes to Irma and Martin?
When it comes to Martin way too many people insist he deserves Irma without taking his annoying behavior into account. The other side exaggerates his negative traits to the point of making him out to be a junior sexual predator. When it comes to Irma one side portrays her as a bully and the other side ignores her using her own powers for social situation and acts like she never did anything questionable. You mainly see stuff like this in fanfiction with people who have shipping agendas or on message boards where a certain person wants to slam one character.
Me, I like all of the characters I acknowledge they written as flawed teenagers, that was the point. The whole story was about all of them outgrowing their flaws.
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>How important is Will compared to the other girls?
She is the introduction at the start of the story and the point of view character. After the start first issue though we barely explore her role as leader so I would say she is equally important.
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