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at 40 you experience a sharp decline, it is something I have heard enough times to ask if there's any truth to it, hitting the mark this year.
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Right now I am dealing with
>a bicep tendon that is developing tendonitis
>a fucked shoulder that pops and makes eggshells sounds and occassionally hurts
>contantly straining something in my neck and cant turn my head to the right very far
So I am still working out but trying not to use my shoulder, biceps, or strain my neck again. So I cant do fucking shit I am pretty much lifting like a looksmaxxing zoomer just doing very specific cable movements. Its all pretty gay but I am thankful that all my injuries are pretty much not serious and more warning signs that I need to slow down for a bit.
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I'm 31, what mobility/stretches/yoga/fucking anything do I do to mitigate being old and sore all the time as much as possible? I feel fitter now than any other point in my life but I fear what the 2nd half of my 30s will look like for me.
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So i turned 33
>haven't had sex since december 2024
>was about to get married to a lawyer i met at the church but i left her
>Stronger than ever in the gym
>Zoomers ask me for advice in the gym
>Still full head of hair
>Ex (not the lawyer) still wants me
>Zoomettes can't stop miring and approaching me in the gym
>Make more money than ever
>Coworkers respect me now
>Old friends stagnated
How i did this? By literally putting moderate effort everyday. Never stop lifting, work on something to make some money, sleep and it good, be careful with your money and you will make it, is really easy. Also don't lose your hair, hair is life
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>>77183465
>contantly straining something in my neck and cant turn my head to the right very far
stop using a mouse with your right hand or doing other activities that place your hand in that kind of position for extended perioids of time
phone/tablet/book etc. static hold positions are also kinda shit for it
start doing the "thumbs back-elbows front" facepulls
you can eventually use your right hand normally, but you've overused it way too much for now, give it a rest
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>>77183528
What? I was at the gym and a new girl there started miring me while i was benching, then i went to the tricep extension machine and did some sets, then i went literally 10 feet away and that girl came all over there asking me if i'm finished with my sets on tricep extension while i was literally standing in the rack to OHP. Is this shit common or was she into me? im 34
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I’m 50 next week. In terms of strength I didn’t really go down until I got to about 45, and even then it wasn’t a great deal. What has gone down, big time, is recovery ability. I really feel it after intense training and I can’t bounce back like I used to
>how should I train as a young person
Exercise smart. I don’t mean “science based”, I mean don’t ego lift and focus on every session. Write it down and track your progress, every time you’re training. Have goals and get after them, but above all enjoy it
>should I take gear
Scratch the itch if you want, purely down to you
>what about my diet is it LOCKED IN
just don’t eat shit. If your mates are going out for a pizza and a few beers to celebrate a birthday, go with them. You’re not Mr Olympia. And if you want to be Mr Olympia, go with them but take your own food prepared in a little Tupperware box
>well what should I avoid
Nightclubs, recreational drugs, street fights, certain minorities, fast food, pop, snacks (chocolate, sweets, crisps), debt, pay monthly shit, pornography, revenge fantasies, crime in general, staying up late, listening to women and arguing on the internet
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>>77183530
because it's become so common I've identified the key factor
also I got it cramped REALLY BAD a couple of times by
1) fucking sneezing
2) doing overhead presses when it was already feeling stressed and "tight"
I'm literally using the mouse mostly with my left hand now unless I really need to lock in for a while
also start doing the beforementioned tb-ef facepulls, low weight, 15sec holds, not too fatiguingly
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>>77183519
Same.
It's not a good life, but it's a life.
At least we'll always have this place.
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>>77183494
This is going to be me 8 years if I don’t get the courage to blow my brains out or jump off a building before then. I honestly cannot even fathom how terrible my life will be if I’m still alive in my 40s. I’ve gone through the most important life development years of my life with nothing to show for them. It’s all over now.
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>>77183554
>I honestly cannot even fathom how terrible my life will be if I’m still alive in my 40s.
been there, just keep going. at some point you burn out so much you get tired of being a sad cunt the whole time and you get out of doomerism and into nothing.
t.living my days one by one until they finish.
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>>77183335
I just want to kys myself. I am arriving at the second sad phase. The first I had when I became 20 years old. How the fuck people can only have one middle age crisis their entire life?
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My goal in life has become to date and marry an 18 year old. I'll accept a 19 year old, but we need to be married by the time she's 20.
I figure I probably need to lose a lot of weight to get there still, and that's not been going so well.
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I don't know if this is thread to talk about this (I'll also post in the feel thread right next to this one), but I'm in my 30s and seeing my parents life in their late 60s-early 70s who "did everything right" is showing that I definitely need to kill myself. What I mean is that outwardly it seems like my parents have a life most people nowadays would want and seems to be hard or almost impossible to attain.
They got married. They had a child. Good educations and had good careers. Million dollar home and bought a second home in other state they rent and will move into. They also have retirement accounts, they go on a vacation every year, they were able to retire at a proper age but still work "consulting" when they want to. So everything looks good right?
Well besides the external things, their lives are pretty useless. They have never had any friends. They don't have hobbies. They still work quite a bit despite being retired because if they didn't they would literally do nothing. Pretty much all their free time, weekends, evenings, they are sitting at home in front of the TV, usually in separate rooms. My father who is really the one who busted his ass to be financially well off has been on heart meds for years and was hours away from dying of a massive heart attack last year. And the cherry on top is that the child they had, me, turned out to be a complete fucking loser, a child so pathetic that you would be embarrassed to even bring him up to people.
Pretty much, why I say their lives make me need to kill myself is that I couldn't even hope to attain most of the things they have achieved, and yet it still feels like their lives are pretty meaningless because they didn't form social connections or have a worthwhile child. What chance in hell do I have as someone over 30 with no friends, no relationships, no career, to actually develop a life worth living? My old ages of life will still be alone like theirs, just without all the other external factors.
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>>77183537
Zoomettes are 30 now it isnt a huge flex to get women begging for a geriatric pregnancy from someone at the top of the hypergamous food chain. The only the thing I can say genuinely sucks about being 33 like that poster is I can no longer larp as Zyzz at HTID raves cause I have two kids and a fat wife who'd get sweaty and complain at the rave in about 30 seconds.
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>>77184062
This is how every fitizen in their thirties think
>>77184058
This is the reality
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>>77183335
35.5 yo
No lingering injuries or issues, just trying to reach 3pl8 bench (255x7 is my current pb) and unstall my deadlift
I eat like a pig so that probably helps recovery and shield from all that nagging pain I'm supposed to be feeling at my elderly age
Also it's not April 1st anymore, someone tell the janny in chief to take the gay pics off the captcha
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>the year is not so long ago
>I'm 27
>the year is current
>years have passed and I am over 30 and not much has happened in the intervening time, feel like I'm constantly spinning my wheels
I'm just gonna work 90 hour weeks until I croak at 40, if I can. In hindsight I had no clue how badly it would fuck me over when I decided to just not exercise for a while and then that turned into years.
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>>77183537
>>77184064
>in their thirties think
Why is it always esl teens seething about this. You live in Manila, little bro, it literally doesn't matter for you if a 33yo man is crushing some 20yo pussy in a one night stand.
It will never stop being weird to me that dudes in their 20s seethe about this, instead of just saying "haha yea bro I'm 22 and 18yo girls want my dick". Like you're scared of being called a pedo and seethe that millennial dudes grew up not giving a fuck about that noise.
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Bout to be 43 and I'm doing good bros. Start taking care of yourselves now. I'm in better shape than ever ever been in my entire life. Feels very weird and stupid because if I'd gotten where I'm at now when I was younger it would probably have meant a lot more but it doesn't matter now. Now I am the "I've never seen a man so young guy" and I think that is funny. My catpcha was the dog from Cowboy Bebop
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>turning 37 at the end of the month
>will be proposing to my 21 year old girlfriend by the end of the year
>she will be moving in with me after the engagement
>about halfway through my chemical engineering undergrad, the really hard parts are all coming
>working a job I don’t hate that pays the bills
>in amazing shape
>not bald
>not drinking and partying anymore, practicing good habits to be a good father
Bros I never knew it could be this good. Seriously. I was gonna end it in 2022 and decided to give it an actual try before kms myself.
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There he is!
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I'm turning 40 at the end of this month. Getting divorced, hopefully that goes well. Haven't been promoted at my job in a decade. Sitting here at 3am doing computer simulations yay.
I haven't worked out in years. Got to purple in BJJ before quitting at kid #2. Missed it really bad for a while but now I dgaf. My knees are fucked. I think I'm going to get into swimming or back into weights.
I heard "You Can Call Me Al" in the car today and it was way too personal.
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>>77184225
I guess. Those are just the highlights, there is a mountain of failure and shame that I haven’t shared with the class but that shit just holds you back. Can’t cry over spilled milk.
>>77184227
She’s so hot it’s actually unreal. I must be doing something right over here
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im turning 41 and my last partner was 24. if you lift weights and have a skin care routine you can still look super young. no health problems and still as strong as i was mid 30's, only problem is recovery takes a bit longer. had my test checked a couple of months ago and it was 788.
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>>77183765
>>77183815
none of those, I want to know if the sharp decline at 40's I heard about is real or some meme. maybe it is real because normies just don't train and eat shit? is it real even if you train and eat properly? and what is it? is it about performance on sport? sex? is it about social live?
I do know there are bots on the thread tho, these kind of threads must have someone larping as a +40 yo pussy slayer and this post >>77184279
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>>77184260
No, nobody says shit. It ABSOLUTELY makes my female friends who are my age seethe but they don’t say shit to my face. Women are gonna do what women are gonna do, so I don’t hold it against them. Her mom was a little iffy but both her mother and grandparents really like me; I treat her well and she makes me very happy.
I simply do not care if it makes people sperg out; they should mind their own business.
>>77184623
She’s slightly autistic so she’s not annoying in the normal ways women are annoying. All women are annoying to some degree, figuring out how and which kinds of annoying to tolerate is the cost of doing business. I actually really like the cutesy lovey dovey shit.. i dont act like a touchy feely faggot in my day to day interactions, so it’s really great being able to be that way around one person.
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>>77185063
She’s going to make a great wife, and a wonderful mother in a few years.
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I'll be 39 next month. I have to do a morning routine for back and neck health every day, just so the pain isn't so bad. Other than that, I do feel alright physically, I have no trouble staying lean and keeping some of my muscle, but most of my training is on the cable tower.
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>>77185071
Im probably (definitely) autistic, but when i read normalfag text exchanges like this i seriously cant comprehemd that this is how normal people talk to each other. Like it just seems so fake and weird to me.
I realize this is definitely a 'me' problem but yeah
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>>77185116
Actually, my mom is a monster. She has BPD and has just gotten super into religion. Handing that woman a Bible is like giving a chimpanzee a machine gun.
>>77185106
How do you text people? It’s just idle chitchat. She is an autismo so idk man.
>>77185111
>he doesn’t have a woman who mires him every day
>he doesn’t have a woman to tell that he loves her
>two strangers displaying mutual affection makes him cringe
In all likelihood, you probably aren’t going to make it.
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>>77185145
>How do you text people?
Like this.
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>>77185156
Some of us actually lift here, so yes it is hard. If you’re spending longer than an hour per session in the gym you are dilly-dallying and wasting time.
>volume day (legs)
>overhead bulgarian split squats (30lb kettlebells)
>5x10-12
Sometimes I throw up :(
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gentlemen. one word. virgin.
40 year old virgin.
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are these sad sacks really this miserable and come on the internet to use it as their therapy venting place? it's like they can't fathom not everyone is a little bitch like them.
it seems more pressurized than before so the shilling angle seems more plausible
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>>77183335
34 here. Yes, you're not as energetic or as sharp as you were in your 20s. That begin said, if you've taken at least reasonably good care of yourself then you will still have some juice in the battery. I'll say this though, if you drink even moderately you gotta cut that shit out. It wreaks massive havoc on you once you hit the 30s and beyond. t. 2 years sober
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>>77186509
from what I've seen, it is not a sharp decline, normies might feel it as a sharp decline because they have low activity and if they try doing something at their 40's, their compare it with themselves at their 20's and the gap becames too notorious.
I train and hike often, so I've already felt that decline.
as for alcohol, I drink 1 or 2 beers every now and then, I ended my drinking and going out at night days back when I was 28 and I wake up with hangover. only once in life.
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>>77185063
noice, how did you meet? Unfortunately i gained weight so I am lifting and eating at a deficit to get into a spot and routine before I let a woman have at me again. I stopped drinking and weed entirely so I'll need more interesting things to do so I can meet people again. Cheers
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>>77183335
I felt it big from 37 to 38. I used to run and then would lift or do body weight exercises six days a week. Now I'm down to running six days a week, lifting two, and body weight one, and the days I do more than run I feel dead.
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>35 yo, 176 cm, 83 kg
>lifts 1 RM
>ohp: 1pl8 x 8
>bench: 2pl8 x 10
>squat 3lp8 x 1
>diddly 5pl8 x 1 but also 4pl8 x 12
completely stagnated in all lifts. i've gotten here without any deliberation in eating deficit/surplus
i want to reach a 3pl8 bench. should i try a bulk at this age or "go slow"? clock's ticking i feel now
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>>77183539
>I didn’t really go down until I got to about 45
This checks out with the latest data. Studies now are seeing sharper drops at about 44 and 60 for men.
My strength didn't really go down at 44 (45 now) however my eyesight took a real big hit whereas previously it was 20/20. It was a dramatic decline in just a few months. Thought it might have been something more serious like cancer or some tumor pressing on an optic nerve. It wasn't.
>>77183335
As stated above, watch out for ~44 and 60. One big issue as you get older is that responsibilities stack up and make it harder to focus on recovery on top of simply ageing, so it is not as easy to separate age-related issues from just lifestyle issues.
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>>77183518
i'm 30 and look closer to mid/late 20s from what others have told me. I've been approached by zooms at the bar too but you gotta at least be realistic ab being approached in the gym all the time unless you look young like a male model and work out at a gym by a college or some shit. there should be a skin test for internet access
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39 in a few months. maybe its just me being overly optimistic but I feel like I have at least 10 more good years in me. I never felt like a decline of some sort but I also kept running and lifting weights for the past 15 years.
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>>77186903
I hope you have them, but be careful because this age is very treacherous.
I was ok for most of my 30's but I feel a sharper decline now near 40's than the rest of the decade. take a look at >>77186704
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>>77186923
Have you ever considered TRT?
My Instagram feed is full of legit boomers looking and performing great at 50+
"Fitoldboy" started close to 65
https://www.instagram.com/fit_oldboy/
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>>77186923
maybe but I believe everyone is different and the only thing I should listen to is my body. the only thing I have to admit is annoying is my recovery. not in terms of muscles but in injuries itself like skin tissue taking longer to heal and whatnot. that could also just be me noticing these things more cautiously. maybe it was always been like that, I never really paid attention to stuff like that in my 20s.
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Turning the big 30 in 6 months
Lifts are going great (hit 275 on bench and almost at 3 pl8s with squats). Got scuba certified last year and plan on diving in Bali next month. Also moving to a nicer neighborhood near downtown so I can try to get back into the dating scene. Sleep is still fucked up since I can't stop taking naps in the afternoon though
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i turned 30 back in december 2021 and that was when life ended for me. i realized i was 30 years old and had made absolutely zero development in my life. was still living with my parents, was now officially a wizard, no friends, a piece of shit job. living a completely worthless life. at that point i went from apathy about life to legit severe depression that has lasted for 4 years and i still havent moved a step forward. so now my life is even more outrageously pathetic because im 34. literally 16 hours a day i just think about how pathetic i am and how ive wasted my life.
it also didnt help that only a month after i turned 30, in january 2022 i saw a news story where this gorgeous USA beauty queen had killed herself and she herself was only 30. then reading up about her, she was outrageously successful outside of a beauty queen. she was a tv correspondent, she was a lawyer with an mba, she was always smiling and laughing and making everyone around her happy. but she straight up wrote an article online about how scared she was to be turning 30 because of how society treats 30 year old women, and then she didnt want to suffer living as an over 30 woman so she jumped out a skyscraper window.
sorry to post that rambling aside but that person has stuck with me for 4 years. because it makes me think about how if someone so accomplished, happy, and loved like her can feel useless enough to kill themselves, how the FUCK do i have any hope? and i feel the same way any time i hear a story of anyone young killing themselves.
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>>77187268
I work at a bank in the Netherlands and for a little while they've had this page where they honor / mention former employees who died, they know this through retirement payments. Last name and age is published and I always get a bit of dread when I see someone in their twenties or in their 30s (slightly older than me) who died. Looked one up sometime and came across his profile, facebook posts of relatives and ofc dead by suicide. It's depressing.
But for your own personal situation why didn't you bother to take little small steps to improve things? I always recommend people with average to above average intelligence to just study something since at least it gives perspective and a possible career trajectory.
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I'm probably the biggest loser on this entire board. I'm turning 36 over a month and have accomplished absolutely zero. My life is basically indistinguishable from a teenager's. I'm despondent about my situation and life and it's driven me to the point of suicide. I have absolutely no motivation to change because I feel nothing but utter hopelessness since my self-esteem is non-existent, and also feel nothing but regret, humiliation, and shame for ending up like this. I don't have any friends to improve for, no relationship to improve for, there's no career I strive for, no real goals to strive for, and basically the only family I have regular contact with are my parents and I barely speak much to them, and they have really showed very little care about how pathetic my life has been since I was around 16 up until even now.
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>>77183335
It's not true, not for anyone.
We age in specific amounts every few years and have entire more years where we barely age at all.
Some people comes sooner, some people later, but I actually "de-aged" by a few years around 38-42 because I just actually started putting all the bullshit aside and really taking care of myself. not just meme taking care of myself.
literally taking the time to stretch with perfect form and not rush it, getting sleep when I actually needed it, enjoying things. idk man it wasn't some meme super cure.
Stress ages you as much as not getting exercise/nutrition age you.
Once I started focusing on pure rehabilitation of my mobility. I started unlocking pain signals slowly, I realized just how much constant noise my body was generating from pain.
It's honestly terrifying dude, you suddenly have silence and you realize for like a decade+ you have had just constant pain you never really noticed and it's just gone. leaving you alone.
However once the pain is gone, you actually rest. your cortisol unironic goes down as your brain relaxes.
>>77189344
yeah, that happens. You need to learn to smell the flowers. if you don't you'll want to blow your brains out.
please trust me.
fishing, hiking, bike riding, even fucking gay shit like tennis become enjoyable hobbies. learn to do new shit.
you might not even enjoy it that much, but what it does is let you appreciate going back home to the things you use to enjoy.
I give myself 2 hours of 4chan at most and even that isn't literally 2 hours, as I lurk and do some stretches while relaxing in for the night.
get out of your box m8, you have decades left to go and you were not put here to simulate life artificially.
you are here to live, learn what we all have to learn eventually.
it's the journey that matters.
fuck the "going out like a dumpster fire" people.
we are supposedly on a board where we autistically lift weights to be better than others.
so be the 80 year old grandpa that mogs everyone.
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Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.
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it's interesting, the most fun and joy I had the other week was literally just taking a few simple walks around my neighborhood and saw flowers blooming after a long winter. something serenely peaceful about it and even after the darkest, the dawn rises again.
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>>77190405
one thing I learnt as a former edgy teenager and sad cunt is the true meaning of the advice people use to give me and I thought it was stupid.
>enjoy simple things.
saw some ladybugs while hiking, it make me happy or at least less sad. haven't see them for a while. it means spring is here.
>don't be sad
You are living in pheeladelphia. leave that place. it's hard to explain and harder to do, but it's like you spend too much time caring about the shit making you sad you can't do anything but that. do stuff. train, work, learn something, idk, but do something even if you have no will. phisical stuff worked best for me.
you'll learn to enjoy dad jokes. they are not stupid, they are a comic relief on this harsh rock, from people who know what it means to get your hands sore from working.
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>>77190544
taking pleasure in "the simple things" is cope for pathetic losers. people who have made something of their lives and have people and things to live for dont need to "just enjoy the simple things". im a complete loser in my 30s, no wife, no children, no family, no career, no achievements. ive talked about how badly i want to kill myself and i get told that same shit
>anon just enjoy the simple things
>the sun on your face
>a nice breeze
>take a nice walk
>seeing some animals
>watching a good show or movie
>everything doesnt need to be a means to an end, just enjoy the gift of being alive
thats no way to live life. thinking that im going to be able to get through every day because "dude look at the flowers youre so lucky to be able to do that" is complete bullshit. when you live a life alone and without purpose, "the simple things" dont do shit.
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>>77190572
so you are a 30 years old loser who will disregard anything that isn't his fabled life and also can't understand things when explained.
you might think people feel sorry but people really rejects you because you are either stupid or too locked within himself to do anything.
>MUH FEEEELS
you are a pathetic little boy and suffer what you deserve.
come back when you decide to do something about it.
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is this even fixable?
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>>77190572
I'm so addicted on grinding and making money, that enjoying the simple things would be an achivement for me. I already started walking more and working less. I'm 34 in September and i wasted a lot of time on vidya and work, time to appriciate the short time God gave us in this life. Godspeed anons, the end is nigh.
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>>77183335
i turn 45 in the next months and i notice:
>lower back si joint problems
>wrist hurts
>shoulder recently injured
>erection quality is not even close to what it was in my 30s i can see pics that got me painfully hard now with absolutely feeling nothing
>hangovers also got worse
yes its rough.
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>>77190639
>be anon
>on deathbed, all alone
>*cough*cough* gee I sure am glad I *wheeeeze* worked all those hours *hack* and have all this *cough* money I’ll never get to spend
>what I wouldn’t give to *wheeze* feel the sun and warm breeze on my *hack* face just once more since I *cough*cough* spent all those years *wheeze* staring at a computer screen
>oh well
>*farts*
>*shits and pisses himself*
>dies
Yea man that’s so awesome
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>>77187268
Unless this is bait (see this exact pasta with the same age all the time in /feels/ threads), what's stopping you from kys?
>literally 16 hours a day i just think about how pathetic i am and how ive wasted my life.
And you did absolutely nothing??
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>>77183335
>38yo
Stretching, Functional training and Yoga has been a blessing. It's one of those things I kicked myself for not starting earlier but best time to start is now, and all that. Plenty of YouTube videos to use. Can't handle sugar like I use to but I see it as a good thing. I might have 1 chocolate chip cookie or a Reese peanut butter cup once a week but never more than that. Diet changed; have legit veggie days and I learned to make awesome Mediterranean salads.
I'm following what makes me feel better and aiming for being lean. I feel good, got great energy and dropping pounds monthly. Sure there might be a sharp decline on the horizon, that's aging, but I'm aiming my decline to be a soft glide slope not a noise dive into the ground.
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>>77183335
I live in the suburbs of the Midwest and decided to travel to Seattle and stay downtown to visit with cousins. The 20 something’s dating older men is crazy. You guys don’t know real life. Also I found out I’m not as ugly as I thought when I went through the airport and caught mires, as I walked the streets of downtown not only did I see so many 20 something year old women but I caught them looking at me from a few glimpses. The people who hate the city life are fucking retarded and have been brainwashed. You want women go to a downtown area. You’re a major faggot scared bitch if you buy into the idea that it’s dangerous.
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>>77191252
>QigongMeditation
I do alot of the movement stretches in the morning sometimes at work even. May feel like Tai Chi but whatever it is the movement routines helps.
https://youtu.be/CxBbm7w1Ems?si=5Y_R1UOkEx5JM859
>TheBioneer
Kind of started it off my movement training. Lot of movement training but some stretching videos helped.
>StrengthSide
My latest channel I'm watching randomly but more training and less stretching but I recommend it as something for functional work.
The theme is just moving. Working in IT for years you don't really move alot obviously but for me these movements helped me move more and it's not boring at all.
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>>77191252
>My neck and back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SceZOlxT5jY
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>>77183540
>thumbs back-elbows front" facepulls
What does this mean? every facepull form video I see explains things exactly the same but they all move differently
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>>77183335
People always talk about a decline starting in your 30s. I'm 37 and have not even kind of felt that. It feels exactly like it did in my early 20s. The only difference is metabolism. I have to cut at a lower deficit to see results at the same speed as in my 20s. 40s may prove different, but we'll see.
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im 39. perma non sexual nofapper. im in my woman hating avoiding era. i genuinely think every day i spend away from a female is a blessing. i have all the energy in the world. i feel good.
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>>77183335
I started feeling it around 35 with knee pain, tiredness and stiffness. I'm in better shape 10 years later because I started working out and eating primarily whole real foods. My motivation is looking at all of the old people around town who can barely walk across Walmart. I won't be like that.
>>77183471
I wake up every morning and do a few short yoga poses like child post, downward facing dog, hindu pushups, a few bridges, twist side to side. Takes like 5 minutes. The goal is to move in every plane of motion, wake up the muscles and loosen up any tightness. Keeps mobility good. When you're old if you don't move you will get very stiff and be unable to move.
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>>77183518
I'm 57
My neighbours and friends think I'm some kind of fitness nut
All I do is keep on keeping on, 2 cardio and 2 resistance days a week
My bod hasn't changed much in 30 years
But I am aghast at how my age group has accepted slow decline into goo
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>>77192419
exactly and lets be real your woman should be the one worried about the baby all the time. Men traditionally don't have much to do with their kids until they are about 7 years old and capable of doing things and learning.
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life for me now is just a slow motion march towards death or suicide. when youve reached into your mid 30s and you have nothing, whats the point? honestly. by this point i am supposed to be married, maybe/probably have kids, have a great career, have housing, be a normal functioning adult. instead, i might as well have spent my entire life as a neet to this point. all i think about every day is how i let myself get to this point
people talk about "starting over in their 30s". people who get up, move somewhere, go back to school, change themselves. for me it wouldnt be starting over it would be just starting. all these people who turn things around, they have something to turn around for. they have a wife or kids they want to be better for, they have goals they want to achieve. i have no one to better myself for. all i have are my parents and they have never really cared about how ive wasted away my life so i dont need to better myself for them either.
im just so ashamed. im never going to overcome this. thinking about reaching my 40s, my 50s, beyond, fills me with terror and dread. and it doesnt help that i live in one of the most beautiful expensive and successful areas of the usa/world, surrounded by some of the most top-tier ambitious and successful people to be constantly reminded how much of a failure i am.
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>>77183335
Im 41 and my body and heart are a wreck. I was prescribed aspirin and they offered me a life vest in case of cardiac arrest. I turned the vest down. Fuck that noise. Anyway yeah life takes it's toll and you will lose strength. Still go to the gym but can't lift like I used to.
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>>77192567
I understand cardio training and strength trining but what is resistance training? mind to elaborate?
>>77192927
yeah, I've already noticed I can't do some stuff anymore, but I don't want to stop, instead I have to accept limits, eat better and stretcht a lot more.
stretch is the red pill this board keeps rejecting
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>>77183335
Reading these threads, I know that supple leopard book and the philosophy behind it are memes at this point, but gd taking that approach instead of static stretching basically cured all of my nagging pains.
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Been doing a morning posture routine and neck drill and my thoracic mobility already got a lot better, my kyphosis improved, shoulders aren't rolled forward as much anymore (everything still needs a lot more work but it's already improving). My natural posture is better when I sit and stand, without putting in any effort. I still tweak my shit here and there when I make weird or sudden movements but I can already feel every critical area getting stronger and more resilient. I actually feel pretty good physically. Just a few months ago I was miserable because everything hurt and I'd go from one injury to another. Also, I've been using 0.2 retinal for a while now and seeing progress under the eyes. Wouldn't go so far as to say I look younger but the lines under the eyes are less visible, pores are smaller and complexion is better.
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>>77194921
For posture I do:
Cat Cow
Jefferson Curl
Prone PressUp
Chintucks
Wallslides
Facepulls
SA Pulldowns
YT / Superman
Deadbugs
Rotating Plank
For neck I do Mark Wilderman, 4 Minute Neck Drill on Youtube. The routines aren't as important as consistency, though.
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>>77195003
I do once a week when cutting because I know I am not gonna get stronger and I can't be motivated to go lift when the best thing I can do is not get weaker. Fuck that.
But when bulking I still hit everything twice a week
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>>77184097
Mate guarding, literally a mate guarding behavior. Read about it if you will. For ego, when living in scarcity your happiness is literally their detriment. It causes them emotional discomfort. Resources are limited and finite after all. Lots of people even do it unconsciously, it's the most basic bitch male behavior for low status males. If you ever been in an environment where you were not the highest status male around within your own perception then you most probably did it yourself.
Your argument about proximity doesn't matter, monkey brain doesn't differentiate that well between online and offline in the first place despite what retards think they think. It's crazy interesting.
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>>77195022
In the land of those afraid to approach. The shitty retarded pickup artist is king
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>>77183518
I am not reading all that negative shit, just came here to say that posts of yours and anons like you are lifefuel to me and I am glad you make them. Can't be alone in this notion either.
Btw. You should actually share the lows with the class too. Perhaps on /SIG/. Fit is not a facebook tier forum meant only for highlights, and true wisdom comes from failure.
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>lift light, 40% my max, to failure
>Pull-ups
>Chest flys
>15 to 20km run once a week
>5k or long walk every other day
>1h of VR boxing for extra cardio and fun
>Supplementation stack that looks after my joints
>Copper to prevent grey hair, and counteract zinc supps
>Zinc and iodine
>Rest when I need to, even if I don't want to
38 and feel better than my 20s.
Nothing is as easy or as hard as other people say, most advice is giga cope from people who aren't invested in whether it turns out well for you or not, basically stop listening to others and actually consult your own experienc
you probably know what to do already, and it not, it's better to be yourself than simply being right all the time.
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>>77186704
>however my eyesight took a real big hit whereas previously it was 20/20. It was a dramatic decline in just a few months. Thought it might have been something more serious like cancer or some tumor pressing on an optic nerve. It wasn't.
That's my biggest fear in about 10 years or so. I heard they have some new medicine in the pipeline where you apply some drops and it loosens up your lenses again and makes your vision closer to your youth. Hopefully it's out by the time I get to that age.
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>>77183539
>Nightclubs, recreational drugs, street fights, certain minorities, fast food, pop, snacks (chocolate, sweets, crisps), debt, pay monthly shit, pornography, revenge fantasies, crime in general, staying up late, listening to women and arguing on the internet
the only things worth living for
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>36
>182cm, 89kg, 25% fat
>trying to push to 100kg 25%-30% and then cut back to 90kg, hopefully sub 20% fat
Thighs started touching each other already. My plan is flawless, right? I think it should take me 2 years.
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>>77192701
>thinking about reaching my 40s, my 50s, beyond, fills me with terror and dread.
That's why I smoke, drink and eat McDonalds as post workout. Ha!
Life as a wizard is complicated. I live in my mom's basement and have an imaginary sisterwife, but when I look at my life and take stock of my failures, the only source of true disappointment is that of being a lazy NEET loser with no career. I don't want to go to work, but at the same time I'm ambitious (which is why the gym appeals to me) and want to be somebody. The guy on the street with the biggest house and the BMW 7-series in the driveway.
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After a lot of effort I am now regional CMO at a pretty big company.
I am not sure what else there is to do now. I grew up in a disgusting council estate and now I take business class flights every other week and tell ugly interns what to do. I paid of my mortgage and now just out the salary , high by bong standards, into a stock and share ISA.
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>>77195015
Pretty much. I don't think zoomers are self-aware enough to be able to grasp this however. I remember once in uni I did this myself when I was grouped with a laidback, smart in an effortless way handsome chad and a very attractive girl. The guy's GF was another girl, a medical student. I think I was just jealous in general. Absolutely a low status male mind phenomenon.
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>>77189344
30 is when bland mfers realise they have nothing going on in their life while all their friends have moved on to families and careers. You had a decade to get a personality bro. Games and movies are just staring at a screen while time passes. You learn nothing and don't grow as a person. Do that for a decade and you have literally regressed as a human
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>>77184182
This is a fitness board where, assumingly, at least a portion of the user base actually take care of themselves. It shouldn't be difficult to grasp that some of the long-term fitizens who lift, do cardio and use sunscreen actually age really well. I'm 44 and have never got so many mires as in the last year, mostly from sub 20 year old girls.
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>>77199918
Family planning is at an all time low if you look at global birth rates. Careers are also kinda in decline where previously you'd try to get promoted and now you just do your hardest just to keep your current job.
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>>77199925
Also need to remember that guys like this become extremely delusional and see what they want to see. Like this guy, 44 years old. Any time he sees a younger woman glance anywhere in his general location, he’ll say she was “mirin” him. And without knowing her he’ll just claim she’s under 20 cause it makes him delude himself into thinking teenagers lust after him. It gives him purpose and desire to improve so that’s good
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>>77200024
Facts
>>77200036
I don't think he's spewing negativity, he's just combatting delusional thinking.
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>>77200049
I wouldn't discount his experience. The sheer amount of couples with huge age differences (both male and female) I've encountered so far goes against what people on 4chan and reddit say.
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>>77183335
Not really. It depends on how you train. There are training methods that are pretty unhealthy and will take their toll if you do them while older. But normal training works fine.
You can see this in boxers, some have a sharp decline after 30 if their style is very athletic, depending on heavy lifting etc., like Tyson for example.
Others fight fine into old age because they don't do stupid shit, for example Hopkins or Foreman.
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>>77200036
Reality =/= negativity
Fact is you wasted your youth of hustling or learning and now you're having regrets. Tough luck, you only get this one life, should've listened to Chad instead of incels. Now make the best of what you still have left.
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>>77200124
You seem like you are projecting a lot.
With your negative mindset you'll never improve and you'll always be stuck an incel neet.
Also what makes you think that Chad didn't go to the gym and improved himself?
I swear, maybe it would be for the better if 4chan was pay2use only. This way your kind of retard would be stuck with the 2000-era loser forums.
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>>77200129
just ignore posters like that. we have 3 threads like pic related that while are sometimes shit posts, there are unironic retards on this board who are posting in them seriously. Sometimes people are delusional but you'd be surprised at how much young women do like older guys. he's probably like early 20s or something trying to peacock
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>>77200154
Stop jeeting so much you ESL thirdie lmao. Facing reality is nothing bad, it's a good thing.
>you'll always be stuck an incel neet.
But I'm neither, you'll stay an incel neet if you never start dealing with reality tho.
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>>77200175
The reality is that age-gap couples not only exist but are pretty common in the real world. Just look at Macron and his wife.
You are obviously an incel neet because you don't have any grasp on reality.
Trying to put others down won't help you solve your current situation. It'll only make it worse.
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Turned 32 in March. Physically I still feel great, metabolism hasn't slowed a bit, but that means I'm still a lanklet, like skateboarder type build. I travel a lot for work and have moved every 2 years for the past 6 years so it's hard to keep a dedicated workout and diet schedule. Really trying to focus on getting bigger now, I've been working out outside like 3 days / week (there's a shipping container with barbells weights, a bench, and racks I use) because the gym where I am is always slammed. Making enough money to live comfortably as a single guy, but still a virgin. Feels bad, but weirdly not as bad as it did in my 20s. Maybe one day it'll happen. Nights are hard, I do not sleep well.
From the ages of 18- 24, pretty much all I did was surf, skate, smoke weed, and do some college classes. Always employed. My best advice for younger people is to get your educational goals completed early in life, as things only get harder as you age and your responsibilities increase. I'm taking classes to hopefully get into a Physicians Assistant program right now and it really is draining. Work from 8 - 4, then I have to come home and do 4 hours of homework every fucking day. My work is already cerebral, and having to transition to math and science homework and exams after already stressing my brain for 8 hours that day really lengthens the time it takes to comprehend the material. I just try to imagine myself as a young Japanese student who's parents are very disappointed in them when they don't get good grades. It's motivation enough, but I feel like I need something more, something that can really make me lock in.
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>>77200601
we'll a'aight then. I swear I only see the "i accept your concession' posts on /fit/, though - almost like it's the same sniveling incel making every one of those posts
>>77200790
>metabolism hasn't slowed a bit
we all know that feel. I'm binge eating but maintain 47 kg... for better or worse. I'm fucking breathless after a tub of ice cream. lol
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>>77183335
Hypothyroidism hit me at 30 followed by a detatched ligament in my back. I'm mostly doing alright performance wise. Sticking with boxing and jiujitsu. But I don't deadlift anymore and I only squat sets of ~20 with ~205. Haven't gone heavier since the injury.
35 now. Recovery is harder and I'm storing more fat on my torso which used to stay absolutely shredded at 4000+ calories a day. I only box a couple times a month now and I'm not getting any better at it. The day is rapidly approaching that I put down the gloves and commit to my Japanese aggressive cuddling club.
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>>77183335
Just turned 30, life drastically changed in the last year or so.
Started living with my gf, she is truly my life partner, everything else feels secondary, we just go through life together.
Feel equally as lost about my career as I did 10 years ago, which worries me a bit. I'm still in a paycheck to paycheck mode changing random jobs often.
Stopped drinking altogether. In great shape, playing football 3 times a week, lifting 3 times a week, focusing more and more on mobility.
Already lost most of my family and friends in my 20's, suffered a lot, did therapy, so I truly feel like the best is yet to come.
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>>77202636
beep boop demoralize bot
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>32
>Haven't had sex since last son was conceived 3 years ago
>She won't even hug
>Used to care, but I checked out
>Ever since, wife basically hates me now
>Started cutting from 20% bf, down 20lbs now
>Abs are gonna show any day
>Wife tells me daily that I'm not gonna make it and I'll never maintain it
I'm basically running on spite at this point.
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>>77199925
I'm early 30s, in great shape, and I didn't think a woman has noticed me since I was 18 including the one In in a relationship with. I have to believe you're delusional because otherwise I am ugly as fuck.
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>>77183570
This unironically works, but only because you’re just a volume shooter. It’s the equivalent of a basketball player just chucking the ball at the basket every time he touches the ball. Eventually you’ll score. But that anon is correct. You cannot give a fuck if everyone in the bar thinks you’re a joke. It will eventually work. You’ll eventually find a woman with the perfect blend of impaired judgement, desperation, and low self esteem.
And obviously if you’re attractive it’s an easier strategy to execute. You just have to decide if pussy is worth bartering whatever level of dignity you still possess.
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>>77202739
I'm there, brother. I'm there.
Best is that when mad she used to threaten a pussy strike, but can't do that anymore. Then when she was mad she'd threaten divorce, but now she knows I'll just do it. Now when she's pissed I just get a silent treatment, which lets me get some work done.
How'd it turn out for you?
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>>77200024
Yeah. Once you hit your 30s, you stop giving a shit and just create your own reality. It's really relaxing. That's why some guys are able to get some younger girls in their late 30s/40s - women like the DGAF attitude. The "how we doing tonight ladies" actually works if you aren't autistically focused on getting the baddest bitch to get on her knees in 2 seconds.
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>>77202811
Only 1 which makes it more possible to get out. I'm also on good terms with my ex wife and trying to disentangle slowly. My girl knows my daughter is my full commitment as any other kids to come and she understands that.
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>>77202656
https://youtu.be/wDisYcdEjcQ?si=akjWlXzzGhq5bOLv
Sorry anon, your marriage is over. I'd say get couples counselling, but as you say, she already checked out, so is there any point?
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37M, I've noticed a bit of an energy drop since about 32/33. Apparently biological markers for aging pick up heavily around 44, give or take. So not looking forward to that.
6'0 180lbs
No friends, no hobbies, no partner, no interests
Squat 180lb x 5
OHP 105 x 5
RDL 235 x 8
BB Row 145 x 8
16 neutral grip pullups
Not even good at gyming, shitty gracile beta genetics.
I basically havent made progress in 10 years, I just dont give a fuck about diet or training consistency, so I just maintain my mid physique and half ass the rest of my life too.
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>>77190586
Idk. I'm 37 and just started back lifting June 2025 and I looked similar to that. My physique has improved quite a bit, but I still have that pouch of belly fat around and below my belly button. I make good food decisions, but I don't monitor my diet super close. I just proteinmaxxx and avoid fast food & sweets as much as possible.
Honestly your picrel looks more like a posture issue than anything.
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bros, where's my discipline.
I used to be disciplined.
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It's truly shocking to think that I'm nearly 35 years old. I have lived the life of a young teenager. By this point, I am supposed to be a decade into a high paying career with many job hops and promotions and salary increases, I'm supposed to be married and probably have at least one child, I'm supposed to have my own apartment/condo/house and to have lived on my own for over a decade, I'm supposed to have three and a half decades of life experience that shapes my personality and my hopes and goals for the future, including the normal failures but picking yourself back up that many people in their 30s have. Instead I have done absolutely nothing. Legitimately nothing. The past decade of my life has been a blur of nothing. I look at people 10 years younger than me just beginning their adult lives and they have already surpassed mine. I can't even relate to people my age not just for the accomplishments I've never achieved, but even the sorts of problems that come in old age like baldness, falling apart, divorces, I don't experience any of that stuff either.
I'm so ashamed. I'm so humiliated. I'm so regretful. My brain is completely crippled by insecurity and self-hatred. I'm the most insecure person you'll ever find. I can barely even go outside without looking at everyone and thinking about how much better they are than I am. I don't see ever recovering from this.
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I will be 29 this year, I have started nofap and I won't touch any drug including caffeine or alcohol and I'm taking more care of my health. I plan on taking steroids when I experience my first drop around 40 and I will do the funniest thing with a rifle and a go pro when I start lookin old at 50
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>>77205796
I have the job, kids, house, promotions, and all that, and I think I'm headed towards a crash and burn divorce. No life is perfect, anon, and you're comparing yours to your idealizations of others.
That said: "The best time to plant a tree was 100 years ago. The second best time is today." You have a little over half your life left, and you are uniquely empowered to know how to avoid the mistakes that have made you unhappy.
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Turn 30 this year. Want to start MMA training mainly as cardio as I only do strength at the moment. I used to do MMA a few years ago but life shit happened and I had to stop. Can you get pretty good at MMA from my age? I guess if I start now and stick with it for a while I will be okay?
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>>77207253
If she can't handle the conversation she isn't wife material.
Plain and simple, my wife looks up to me and is impressed with my level of effort hanging in there boxing and grappling with dedicated young dudes as I approach my 40s. She gets hyped all in her own about some squats dips and pullups and getting to jiujitsu twice a week.
So many men take it for granted that women cannot handle the "hey, since youre responsible for my orgasms do me a favor and dont totally drop the ball" conversation. But in reality they are that entitled because we allow it. Find a woman who is something resembling an actual equal, who can handle that conversation.
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>>77206316
It's clear enough that you did not in fact "used to do MMA", at least not in any consistent way, because you would have all of your own opinions about that and you wouldn't be asking /fit/.
But yes. You are young enough to in fact get "pretty good". You'll never make the UFC, but you may even hit a vaguely competitive level before you start to feel the real decline within the next decade.
But even that is aiming high. You don't have to be able to compete in order to just have the confidence of knowing you're more trouble than you're worth in a fight.
I've been in and out of boxing, muay thai, and jiujitsu for the past 6 years since I was 30. Just as a casual non-competitor doing a class or two a week between lifting at home and working on my feet full time, and honestly watching most men try to train is hilarious. Not because I'm so great, (I'm not) but because the bar for fight-based athleticism is so abysmally low it's just sad.
The day is rapidly approaching though where I hang up the gloves and focus purely on jiujitsu, because I'm getting too old to strike and I haven't gotten any better in a few years. Being slow-but-strong has a lot more utility in submission grappling than in striking. In the next few years I'll hop on trt and go Roshi mode and try to stay yoked and formidable into my 50's.
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>>77207268
I feel like it's less that most men in that situation are afraid and more that asking her to please you better feels really pathetic. That desire to please is either present or not, you can't simply "request" more of it, just like no man ever got more sex simply because he explicitly or implicitly said that he's not getting as much as he'd like from his partner.
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>>77207281
>and honestly watching most men try to train is hilarious. Not because I'm so great, (I'm not) but because the bar for fight-based athleticism is so abysmally low it's just sad.
not him but I have trouble to understand this, as a 40yo training muay thai I can feel how it becomes harder everyday, my body just can't perform at that level anymore.
not a problem because I don't compete, but I would say is just the opposite of what you posted.
fighting requires a lot a high athleticism.
I guess you were meaning:
>this stuff requires high cardio, high strength, high endurance... and overall bar is too low.
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>>77207320
Agreed but I'm not saying ask for quantity. That will certainly turn her off.
I'm saying inform her about quality. If she's worth your time she will have the conversation and if she cares she'll stay in some kind of shape, and also respect you for not simping.
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That is indeed what I meant, but not just those athletic attributes. The practiced movement of a combat sport is beyond most people, even the ones who try a combat sport, especially a striking sport. Almost everyone quits after a few classes, so you only have to be a consistent hobbyist for a year to fuck up the vast majority of humans. Especially if you do some striking and grappling. After a while you see the new guys coming in thinking theyre tough because they lift weight, and it's a bit like teaching a big child to fight.
I'm not saying go start fights with impunity. Knives exist and shit happens, and you can accidentally kill someone over nothing. I'm just saying consistency in the hobby of a combat sport takes you far into a place of confidence and you can get there after age 30, even if the actual competitors always stay out of your league.
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>>77207374
>After a while you see the new guys coming in thinking theyre tough because they lift weight
I am so tired of this shit... and it still exist despite UFC, KOTS or whatever.
>I is big, I rekt u.
I guess we just can't fight our genetics.
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>>77206120
Half of marriages end in divorce. You have everything someone could want in life otherwise. And since this is 4chan you’ll likely try dating when single and get a younger hotter girlfriend and second wife anyway
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>>77183539
>>well what should I avoid
>Nightclubs, recreational drugs, street fights, certain minorities, fast food, pop, snacks (chocolate, sweets, crisps), debt, pay monthly shit, pornography, revenge fantasies, crime in general, staying up late, listening to women and arguing on the internet
Holy based.
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>still living in my hometown in my 30s like the loser I am
>somewhat happy that at least I have never seen anyone from childhood here who may start questioning me if they recognize me
>at train station this morning and some guy is next to me to go to work have seen him almost every day
>see his name tag
>it is a name of someone who I knew in my grade growing up
>obviously he doesn’t recognize me which is good
>see the wedding band on his finger, maybe even has kids
>see the company on the name tag, and how he’s usually in a professional dress, and I know has a good career too
Yep nothing like getting confronted with someone you knew as a child who stuck around but is actually clearly successful in life probably in an apartment or bought house here in town with his wife and kids
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>>77184049
I get you, man.
My one goal in life is to get the white picket fence with my first gf. We dated until my late 20s when she got smart and I've been on a downward spiral since then. My life is not even awful, I got enough money to coast by, a career and good friends but my heart is kaput and there's not much I can do about it.
I'm REALLY jealous of my dad.
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>>77192567
>All I do is keep on keeping on,
Dang!
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>>77183539
>revenge fantasies
RIP me